Kerry: Putin is going to lose

[HenryBHough]

If Putin invaded Canada fer chrissake, let alone Mexico, Obama would send a lacky out to buy a tanker full of red watercolor and lay down one of his famous red lines.

Then take a round of golf safely far away from the action in Hawaii.

Or Kenya.

Bush didn't have the balls to send in SEAL Team 6. So what does that say about Bush? Or your ability to know what people will do for that matter?

What does that say about my ability to know what people will do?

Well, for one, that I knew you had to leap in and blame Bush proved me right once again.

For the watercolor red line - well we'll just have to wait. Putin hasn't invaded either Mexico or Canada yet. But he knows he could without risk of any opposition.

 

[georgephillip]

Ray McGovern spent his early years as a CIA analyst of the USSR.
This is his analysis of current events in Ukraine:

"There is one huge difference between Prague in 1968 and Kiev 2014.

"The 'Prague Spring' revolution led by Dubcek enjoyed such widespread spontaneous popular support that it was difficult for Russian leaders Leonid Brezhnev and Aleksey Kosygin to argue plausibly that it was spurred by subversion from the West.

"Not so 45-plus years later.

"In early February, as violent protests raged in the Ukrainian capital of Kiev and the White House professed neutrality, U.S. State Department officials were, in the words of NYU professor emeritus of Russian studies Stephen Cohen, 'plotting a coup d’état against the elected president of Ukraine.'

"We know that thanks to neocon prima donna Victoria Nuland, now Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs, who seemed intent on giving new dimension to the 'cookie-pushing' role of U.S. diplomats.

"Recall the photo showing Nuland in a metaphor of over-reach, as she reached deep into a large plastic bag to give each anti-government demonstrator on the square a cookie before the putsch.

"More important, recall her amateurish, boorish use of an open telephone to plot regime change in Ukraine with a fellow neocon, U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt. Crass U.S. interference in Ukrainian affairs can be seen (actually, better, heard) in an intercepted conversation posted on YouTube on Feb. 4."

Ukraine: One 'Regime Change' Too Many?

First useful and rational article I've seen anyone post. Thanks. Most people fail to realize the fascists that caused this coup d’état were due to US and EU meddling. The whole crises could have been averted if the US hadn't dumped $5 billion into it trying to start something.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/343103-graham-tells-obama-to-quit-going-on-tv-threatening-putin-4.html#post8712961

So is the claim that the Ukrainian people want to move closer to the EU and further from Russia "CFR propaganda"?

A certain percentage want to embrace the EU while others prefer Russia.
I haven't seen any recent polls, but if the IMF demands double the prices for gas and electricity for homes and businesses, lifts the ban on the private sale of Ukraine's rich farmlands, devalues the Ukrainian currency, slashes state funds for schools and the elderly then those Ukrainians currently leaning toward Europe might regret their choice.

Ukraine: Secretive Neo-Nazi Military Organization Involved in Euromaidan Snyper Shootings | Global Research

 

[RandomVariable]

First useful and rational article I've seen anyone post. Thanks. Most people fail to realize the fascists that caused this coup d’état were due to US and EU meddling. The whole crises could have been averted if the US hadn't dumped $5 billion into it trying to start something.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/343103-graham-tells-obama-to-quit-going-on-tv-threatening-putin-4.html#post8712961

So is the claim that the Ukrainian people want to move closer to the EU and further from Russia "CFR propaganda"?

A certain percentage want to embrace the EU while others prefer Russia.
I haven't seen any recent polls, but if the IMF demands double the prices for gas and electricity for homes and businesses, lifts the ban on the private sale of Ukraine's rich farmlands, devalues the Ukrainian currency, slashes state funds for schools and the elderly then those Ukrainians currently leaning toward Europe might regret their choice.

Ukraine: Secretive Neo-Nazi Military Organization Involved in Euromaidan Snyper Shootings | Global Research

Poll Finds Ukrainians Favor EU Pact - WSJ.com

James Marson
Nov. 12, 2013 3:24 p.m. ET

MOSCOW—More Ukrainians have swung behind a planned trade-and-political agreement with the European Union, while support for a competing deal for closer integration with Russia has collapsed, according to a survey released Tuesday.

The poll by GfK Ukraine found that 45% favored the association agreement with the EU, while only 14% said they want to join Belarus and Kazakhstan in a Russian-led economic bloc called the Customs Union.

The rest were either undecided or rejected both blocs.

 

[georgephillip]

So is the claim that the Ukrainian people want to move closer to the EU and further from Russia "CFR propaganda"?

A certain percentage want to embrace the EU while others prefer Russia.
I haven't seen any recent polls, but if the IMF demands double the prices for gas and electricity for homes and businesses, lifts the ban on the private sale of Ukraine's rich farmlands, devalues the Ukrainian currency, slashes state funds for schools and the elderly then those Ukrainians currently leaning toward Europe might regret their choice.

Ukraine: Secretive Neo-Nazi Military Organization Involved in Euromaidan Snyper Shootings | Global Research

Poll Finds Ukrainians Favor EU Pact - WSJ.com

James Marson
Nov. 12, 2013 3:24 p.m. ET

MOSCOW—More Ukrainians have swung behind a planned trade-and-political agreement with the European Union, while support for a competing deal for closer integration with Russia has collapsed, according to a survey released Tuesday.

The poll by GfK Ukraine found that 45% favored the association agreement with the EU, while only 14% said they want to join Belarus and Kazakhstan in a Russian-led economic bloc called the Customs Union.

The rest were either undecided or rejected both blocs.

So, four in ten Ukrainians are currently undecided or rejecting both the EU and Russia; I wonder how many leftists are among that 40%?

"Here’s an excerpt from a statement by Natalia Vitrenko, of The Progressive Socialist Party of Ukraine that suggests the situation is much worse than what is being reported in the news:

“'Across the country… People are being beaten and stoned, while undesirable members of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine are subject to mass intimidation and local officials see their families and children targeted by death threats if they do not support the installation of this new political power.

"'The new Ukrainian authorities are massively burning the offices of political parties they do not like, and have publicly announced the threat of criminal prosecution and prohibition of political parties and public organizations that do not share the ideology and goals of the new regime.' ('USA and EU Are Erecting a Nazi Regime on Ukrainian Territory', Natalia Vitrenko."

A Nazi Coup in Ukraine: The US Helped Defeat Nazism in World War II. Obama Helped Bring it Back | Global Research

 

[skye]

Kerry's credibility is on the same level as Obama's.... which means below 0... spineless and weak ... the world's joke of the day!

None of his forecasts and opinions make any sense whatsoever..... should be shot at dawn too!

 

[1776]

Uhhhhhh.....uh, we are going to take away their box of Fruit Loops, that will make Putin regret this move.

 

[Little-Acorn]

 

[Avatar4321]

If Putin invaded Canada fer chrissake, let alone Mexico, Obama would send a lacky out to buy a tanker full of red watercolor and lay down one of his famous red lines.

Then take a round of golf safely far away from the action in Hawaii.

Or Kenya.

Bush didn't have the balls to send in SEAL Team 6. So what does that say about Bush? Or your ability to know what people will do for that matter?

He needs to have a place to send them first... or do you seriously think he is just going to send them into random locations for no reason?

 

[Politico]

Don't argue logic with Leftytoons. They don't have any.

 

[depotoo]

President Obama is loved and adored the world over to this day. Bush on the other hand is still reviled world wide. The only ones who hate Obama are you anti-American conservatives.

You are seriously blind.

World government leaders do not count. Fuck them. But it's a fact that the 'people' worldwide do indeed love and adore President Obama. Deal with it!

Like that does us any good...

 

[Interpol]

Go Kerry... kick Putin's ass all the way back to Siberia.






Kerry condemns Russia's 'act of aggression' | MSNBC

Kerry declared Putin will come out of this ordeal the loser. “He’s going to lose on the international stage, Russia is going to lose, the Russian people are going to lose, and he’s going to lose all of the glow that came out of the Olympics, his $60 billion extravaganza.”

Just like Iran and Syria and the punk Karzai are folding to the demands of the boy king...

At last check, Syria gave up their chemical weapons and Iran is in the middle of going through the same process.

Boy Wonder gets it done without having to get thousands of our brave troops killed, unlike Boy Blunder and Dick Cheney.

 

[korean]

Putin has to fight to the last drop of blood.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Go Kerry... kick Putin's ass all the way back to Siberia.






Kerry condemns Russia's 'act of aggression' | MSNBC

Just like Iran and Syria and the punk Karzai are folding to the demands of the boy king...

At last check, Syria gave up their chemical weapons and Iran is in the middle of going through the same process.

Boy Wonder gets it done without having to get thousands of our brave troops killed, unlike Boy Blunder and Dick Cheney.

I'll give Obama credit for getting the ball rolling in the right direction. Russia is something that has a mind of its own because of its strength within the world. Talking may not be enough....

 

[Iceweasel]

At last check, Syria gave up their chemical weapons and Iran is in the middle of going through the same process.

Boy Wonder gets it done without having to get thousands of our brave troops killed, unlike Boy Blunder and Dick Cheney.

At last check? And your boy wonder gets credit for Syria? I thought he handed it off to Putin when England backed out?

Chemical Weapons - Syria
Syria failed to meet another key deadline for turning over its chemical weapons stockpile as part of an internationally brokered agreement. Under a February 5 deadline set by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Syria was to have given up its complete stockpile. Syria had so far sent only two shipments of chemicals to be destroyed, amounting to less than five percent of its stockpile. The OPCW said Damascus was not doing everything it can to meet that timetable.


Kerry's Security Talks in Europe to Include Iran Nuclear Accord
STATE DEPARTMENT — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is due in Germany for talks on global security that will include discussion of Iran's nuclear program. A deal could impact broader engagement with Iran.

Rolling back Iran's nuclear program includes new inspections to ensure that it's limiting uranium enrichment. That's in return for relief from some international sanctions, with President Barack Obama threatening even tougher measures "if Iran's leaders do not seize this opportunity."

"If Iran’s leaders do seize the chance, and we’ll know soon enough, then Iran could take an important step to rejoin the community of nations, and we will have resolved one of the leading security challenges of our time without the risks of war," said Obama.

 

[georgephillip]

"Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke about the Russia-propelled crisis in Crimea in a news conference on Tuesday, where he presented a number of opinions that are unlikely to win over the international community.

"Putin started out by saying that the changing of the guard in the Ukraine — from ousted president Viktor Yanukovych to an interim government holding down the political fort until December elections — was the result of an 'unconstitutional coup and armed seizure of power.'

"Yesterday, Russian officials presented a document purportedly penned by Yanukovych asking Moscow to send troops into Crimea 'to establish legitimacy, peace, law and order, stability and defending the people of Ukraine.'

"But last week, Yanukovych said during a press conference in Russia that 'any military action in this situation is unacceptable,' though Russia could not ignore the situation unfolding in Crimea."

Vladimir Putin Thinks He Has the Right to Do a Lot of Things in Ukraine - The Wire

 

[kidrocks]

If Putin invaded Canada fer chrissake, let alone Mexico, Obama would send a lacky out to buy a tanker full of red watercolor and lay down one of his famous red lines.

Then take a round of golf safely far away from the action in Hawaii.

Or Kenya.

If Putin did invade Canada or Mexico there is no doubt in my mind that you r-wingers would praise Putin as your newly found hero for standing up to Obama by daring to attack so close to home.

 

[RoadVirus]

If Putin invaded Canada fer chrissake, let alone Mexico, Obama would send a lacky out to buy a tanker full of red watercolor and lay down one of his famous red lines.

Then take a round of golf safely far away from the action in Hawaii.

Or Kenya.

If Putin did invade Canada or Mexico there is no doubt in my mind that you r-wingers would praise Putin as your newly found hero for standing up to Obama by daring to attack so close to home.

You'd be wrong. I don't know about my fellow "r-wingers", but I distrust Putin as much as i distrust Obama.

 

[kidrocks]

If Putin invaded Canada fer chrissake, let alone Mexico, Obama would send a lacky out to buy a tanker full of red watercolor and lay down one of his famous red lines.

Then take a round of golf safely far away from the action in Hawaii.

Or Kenya.

If Putin did invade Canada or Mexico there is no doubt in my mind that you r-wingers would praise Putin as your newly found hero for standing up to Obama by daring to attack so close to home.

You'd be wrong. I don't know about my fellow "r-wingers", but I distrust Putin as much as i distrust Obama.

Your 'fellow' conservatives adore Putin so much right now that one begins to wonder... how long before they eye 'Stalin' with equal respect.

 

[RoadVirus]

If Putin did invade Canada or Mexico there is no doubt in my mind that you r-wingers would praise Putin as your newly found hero for standing up to Obama by daring to attack so close to home.

You'd be wrong. I don't know about my fellow "r-wingers", but I distrust Putin as much as i distrust Obama.

Your 'fellow' conservatives adore Putin so much right now that one begins to wonder... how long before they eye 'Stalin' with equal respect.

You're full of it.

 

[kidrocks]

You'd be wrong. I don't know about my fellow "r-wingers", but I distrust Putin as much as i distrust Obama.

Your 'fellow' conservatives adore Putin so much right now that one begins to wonder... how long before they eye 'Stalin' with equal respect.

You're full of it.

Putin is also a 'proud member of "Obama's enemies list" along with yourself. So you see, I'm not so far off. How long before you come out of the 'Stalin' admiration club closet?