Kerry was never on the boat

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This is the type of thing that makes me feel a sharp disconnect when people ask me why I don't believe the government when it tells me something.

Secretary of State Kerry was spotted on his boat by a CBS producer during the upheavel in Egypt a couple of days ago. Personally, I don't have a problem with it, I am sure he had secure communications available to talk to everyone who needed to be in contact with him, but someone who works for him had a major problem. Rather than talking about how Kerry is always in touch with the State Department, and always available to the President, he decided to deny it ever happened.

But the State Department said Kerry was not aboard a boat on Wednesday and has spent the day working the phones on Egypt. "Since his plane touched down in Washington at 4 a.m., Secretary Kerry was working all day and on the phone dealing with the crisis in Egypt," spokeswoman Jen Psaki said. "He participated in the White House meeting with the president by secure phone and was and is in non-stop contact with foreign leaders, and his senior team in Washington and Cairo. Any report or tweet that he was on a boat is completely inaccurate."

Kerry phones into Egypt meeting - POLITICO.com

It took them 2 days to admit the truth admit they lied.

"While he was briefly on his boat on Wednesday, Secretary Kerry worked around the clock all day including participating in the President's meeting with his national security council," said State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki, naming a series of Egyptian and international officials Kerry had spoken with on Wednesday.

John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes - CBS News

If the first instinct of the government is to lie about something that is perfectly innocent, why should anyone believe them when they are talking about something that isn't innocent?
 
This is the type of thing that makes me feel a sharp disconnect when people ask me why I don't believe the government when it tells me something.

Secretary of State Kerry was spotted on his boat by a CBS producer during the upheavel in Egypt a couple of days ago. Personally, I don't have a problem with it, I am sure he had secure communications available to talk to everyone who needed to be in contact with him, but someone who works for him had a major problem. Rather than talking about how Kerry is always in touch with the State Department, and always available to the President, he decided to deny it ever happened.

But the State Department said Kerry was not aboard a boat on Wednesday and has spent the day working the phones on Egypt. "Since his plane touched down in Washington at 4 a.m., Secretary Kerry was working all day and on the phone dealing with the crisis in Egypt," spokeswoman Jen Psaki said. "He participated in the White House meeting with the president by secure phone and was and is in non-stop contact with foreign leaders, and his senior team in Washington and Cairo. Any report or tweet that he was on a boat is completely inaccurate."

Kerry phones into Egypt meeting - POLITICO.com

It took them 2 days to admit the truth admit they lied.

"While he was briefly on his boat on Wednesday, Secretary Kerry worked around the clock all day including participating in the President's meeting with his national security council," said State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki, naming a series of Egyptian and international officials Kerry had spoken with on Wednesday.

John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes - CBS News

If the first instinct of the government is to lie about something that is perfectly innocent, why should anyone believe them when they are talking about something that isn't innocent?

Old Kerry loves his boat almost as much as he loved the PBRs in VietNam.......I can't stand that clown.
 
This is the type of thing that makes me feel a sharp disconnect when people ask me why I don't believe the government when it tells me something.

Secretary of State Kerry was spotted on his boat by a CBS producer during the upheavel in Egypt a couple of days ago. Personally, I don't have a problem with it, I am sure he had secure communications available to talk to everyone who needed to be in contact with him, but someone who works for him had a major problem. Rather than talking about how Kerry is always in touch with the State Department, and always available to the President, he decided to deny it ever happened.

But the State Department said Kerry was not aboard a boat on Wednesday and has spent the day working the phones on Egypt. "Since his plane touched down in Washington at 4 a.m., Secretary Kerry was working all day and on the phone dealing with the crisis in Egypt," spokeswoman Jen Psaki said. "He participated in the White House meeting with the president by secure phone and was and is in non-stop contact with foreign leaders, and his senior team in Washington and Cairo. Any report or tweet that he was on a boat is completely inaccurate."

Kerry phones into Egypt meeting - POLITICO.com

It took them 2 days to admit the truth admit they lied.

"While he was briefly on his boat on Wednesday, Secretary Kerry worked around the clock all day including participating in the President's meeting with his national security council," said State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki, naming a series of Egyptian and international officials Kerry had spoken with on Wednesday.

John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes - CBS News

If the first instinct of the government is to lie about something that is perfectly innocent, why should anyone believe them when they are talking about something that isn't innocent?

not sure why this is a problem with anyone its not like he dont have a cell phone or two. Dont like kerry much but he does do his job well hear he visted the middle east more times in the past four months then hillary ever did.
 
Yes, the state of the ME, the love the Russians are showing, and the general lover for America certainly shows that Kerry might as well stay on his boat. At least no diplomats have died yet.
 
This is the type of thing that makes me feel a sharp disconnect when people ask me why I don't believe the government when it tells me something.

Secretary of State Kerry was spotted on his boat by a CBS producer during the upheavel in Egypt a couple of days ago. Personally, I don't have a problem with it, I am sure he had secure communications available to talk to everyone who needed to be in contact with him, but someone who works for him had a major problem. Rather than talking about how Kerry is always in touch with the State Department, and always available to the President, he decided to deny it ever happened.

But the State Department said Kerry was not aboard a boat on Wednesday and has spent the day working the phones on Egypt. "Since his plane touched down in Washington at 4 a.m., Secretary Kerry was working all day and on the phone dealing with the crisis in Egypt," spokeswoman Jen Psaki said. "He participated in the White House meeting with the president by secure phone and was and is in non-stop contact with foreign leaders, and his senior team in Washington and Cairo. Any report or tweet that he was on a boat is completely inaccurate."

Kerry phones into Egypt meeting - POLITICO.com

It took them 2 days to admit the truth admit they lied.

"While he was briefly on his boat on Wednesday, Secretary Kerry worked around the clock all day including participating in the President's meeting with his national security council," said State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki, naming a series of Egyptian and international officials Kerry had spoken with on Wednesday.

John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes - CBS News

If the first instinct of the government is to lie about something that is perfectly innocent, why should anyone believe them when they are talking about something that isn't innocent?

not sure why this is a problem with anyone its not like he dont have a cell phone or two. Dont like kerry much but he does do his job well hear he visted the middle east more times in the past four months then hillary ever did.

Ah, if you read the OP the problem is and was they lied to us once again over something they didn't have to lie about. Lie about the little stuff and how can we believe them with the big stuff?
 
This is the type of thing that makes me feel a sharp disconnect when people ask me why I don't believe the government when it tells me something.

Secretary of State Kerry was spotted on his boat by a CBS producer during the upheavel in Egypt a couple of days ago. Personally, I don't have a problem with it, I am sure he had secure communications available to talk to everyone who needed to be in contact with him, but someone who works for him had a major problem. Rather than talking about how Kerry is always in touch with the State Department, and always available to the President, he decided to deny it ever happened.

But the State Department said Kerry was not aboard a boat on Wednesday and has spent the day working the phones on Egypt. "Since his plane touched down in Washington at 4 a.m., Secretary Kerry was working all day and on the phone dealing with the crisis in Egypt," spokeswoman Jen Psaki said. "He participated in the White House meeting with the president by secure phone and was and is in non-stop contact with foreign leaders, and his senior team in Washington and Cairo. Any report or tweet that he was on a boat is completely inaccurate."

Kerry phones into Egypt meeting - POLITICO.com

It took them 2 days to admit the truth admit they lied.

"While he was briefly on his boat on Wednesday, Secretary Kerry worked around the clock all day including participating in the President's meeting with his national security council," said State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki, naming a series of Egyptian and international officials Kerry had spoken with on Wednesday.

John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes - CBS News

If the first instinct of the government is to lie about something that is perfectly innocent, why should anyone believe them when they are talking about something that isn't innocent?

Old Kerry loves his boat almost as much as he loved the PBRs in VietNam.......I can't stand that clown.

Most conservatives can't stand American Heroes.

They generally spit on those who shed blood for this nation. So your feelings are understandable.
 
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This is the type of thing that makes me feel a sharp disconnect when people ask me why I don't believe the government when it tells me something.

Secretary of State Kerry was spotted on his boat by a CBS producer during the upheavel in Egypt a couple of days ago. Personally, I don't have a problem with it, I am sure he had secure communications available to talk to everyone who needed to be in contact with him, but someone who works for him had a major problem. Rather than talking about how Kerry is always in touch with the State Department, and always available to the President, he decided to deny it ever happened.



Kerry phones into Egypt meeting - POLITICO.com

It took them 2 days to admit the truth admit they lied.



John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes - CBS News

If the first instinct of the government is to lie about something that is perfectly innocent, why should anyone believe them when they are talking about something that isn't innocent?

not sure why this is a problem with anyone its not like he dont have a cell phone or two. Dont like kerry much but he does do his job well hear he visted the middle east more times in the past four months then hillary ever did.

Ah, if you read the OP the problem is and was they lied to us once again over something they didn't have to lie about. Lie about the little stuff and how can we believe them with the big stuff?

Why assume that it is a deliberate lie? How about it was just an innocent mistake by the spokesperson who put out the original statement since they did not know that Kerry was on his boat when the crisis erupted. Would you prefer that the spokespersons always stipulate precisely that the Secretary was in the men's room when he received the call that there was an international crisis brewing in the ME?

This is yet another manufactured "red meat" issue designed to inflame those who hate the present administration. Try using a little perspective instead allowing yourself to be manipulated in this patently obvious manner.
 
not sure why this is a problem with anyone its not like he dont have a cell phone or two. Dont like kerry much but he does do his job well hear he visted the middle east more times in the past four months then hillary ever did.

Ah, if you read the OP the problem is and was they lied to us once again over something they didn't have to lie about. Lie about the little stuff and how can we believe them with the big stuff?

Why assume that it is a deliberate lie? How about it was just an innocent mistake by the spokesperson who put out the original statement since they did not know that Kerry was on his boat when the crisis erupted. Would you prefer that the spokespersons always stipulate precisely that the Secretary was in the men's room when he received the call that there was an international crisis brewing in the ME?

This is yet another manufactured "red meat" issue designed to inflame those who hate the present administration. Try using a little perspective instead allowing yourself to be manipulated in this patently obvious manner.

No, actually what people should be tired of is the lying. OK the spokeperson didn't know so they made up a lie. They could have said they didn't know but that isn't the liberal way. The Pesident said that the "police acted stupidly" without knowing the facts. The President and Rice said that Benghazi was over a video long after everyone else knew that was nothing but BS.

So no, it is not manufactured. This administration has a clear record on making claims without checking the facts. They can't seem to come to terms with the fact that they may just not know everything, or at least they won't admit the same.

I guess the way you wish to wiggle out of this is to say that the spoke person didn't intentionally lie they just said something they didn't know was true, and BTW it wasn't true.

So ignore just another example of how this administration handles the truth if that makes you feel better.
 
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This is the type of thing that makes me feel a sharp disconnect when people ask me why I don't believe the government when it tells me something.

Secretary of State Kerry was spotted on his boat by a CBS producer during the upheavel in Egypt a couple of days ago. Personally, I don't have a problem with it, I am sure he had secure communications available to talk to everyone who needed to be in contact with him, but someone who works for him had a major problem. Rather than talking about how Kerry is always in touch with the State Department, and always available to the President, he decided to deny it ever happened.



Kerry phones into Egypt meeting - POLITICO.com

It took them 2 days to admit the truth admit they lied.



John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes - CBS News

If the first instinct of the government is to lie about something that is perfectly innocent, why should anyone believe them when they are talking about something that isn't innocent?

Old Kerry loves his boat almost as much as he loved the PBRs in VietNam.......I can't stand that clown.

Most conservatives can't stand American Heroes.

They generally spit on those who shed blood for this nation. So your feelings are understandable.

Kerry is not a hero. He lied about what he did in Viet Nam and then showed contempt for this country. he is a traitor, not a hero.
 
It's always the coverup that gets these folks in trouble.
I could care less that the guy was on his boat or pullin his pud.
I'm sure if the President wanted to get in touch with him
they would be able to get him in minutes.

It's the lying about it that's the issue.
 
It's none of your business where the Sec'y of State is minute by minute.

Find something else to cry about.

Of course not, when an event happens in the world we certainly do not need to know where those in charge may happen to be. Where he was is indeed a non-issue there is nothing he could have done or is able to do. What is the OP original premise is, why did they lie? Why not just say he was on the yacht? Or that the spoke person didn't know?

You know why, it makes him sound like an elitists that he clearly is.
 
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not sure why this is a problem with anyone its not like he dont have a cell phone or two. Dont like kerry much but he does do his job well hear he visted the middle east more times in the past four months then hillary ever did.

Ah, if you read the OP the problem is and was they lied to us once again over something they didn't have to lie about. Lie about the little stuff and how can we believe them with the big stuff?

Why assume that it is a deliberate lie? How about it was just an innocent mistake by the spokesperson who put out the original statement since they did not know that Kerry was on his boat when the crisis erupted. Would you prefer that the spokespersons always stipulate precisely that the Secretary was in the men's room when he received the call that there was an international crisis brewing in the ME?

This is yet another manufactured "red meat" issue designed to inflame those who hate the present administration. Try using a little perspective instead allowing yourself to be manipulated in this patently obvious manner.

Because this is something they constantly look for..

Additionally most of them had no trouble whatsoever with a man who declared war on 2 nations while playing golf.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3p9y_OEAdc]Now watch this drive! - YouTube[/ame]
 
Old Kerry loves his boat almost as much as he loved the PBRs in VietNam.......I can't stand that clown.

Most conservatives can't stand American Heroes.

They generally spit on those who shed blood for this nation. So your feelings are understandable.

Kerry is not a hero. He lied about what he did in Viet Nam and then showed contempt for this country. he is a traitor, not a hero.

This country gave Kerry medals for his valor.

That makes him a hero.

No matter what the crazies say.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7vCGm33HAU]Kerry Grills Swift Boat Donor - YouTube[/ame]
 
This is the type of thing that makes me feel a sharp disconnect when people ask me why I don't believe the government when it tells me something.

Secretary of State Kerry was spotted on his boat by a CBS producer during the upheavel in Egypt a couple of days ago. Personally, I don't have a problem with it, I am sure he had secure communications available to talk to everyone who needed to be in contact with him, but someone who works for him had a major problem. Rather than talking about how Kerry is always in touch with the State Department, and always available to the President, he decided to deny it ever happened.



Kerry phones into Egypt meeting - POLITICO.com

It took them 2 days to admit the truth admit they lied.



John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes - CBS News

If the first instinct of the government is to lie about something that is perfectly innocent, why should anyone believe them when they are talking about something that isn't innocent?

Old Kerry loves his boat almost as much as he loved the PBRs in VietNam.......I can't stand that clown.

Most conservatives can't stand American Heroes.

They generally spit on those who shed blood for this nation. So your feelings are understandable.

You personify this administration with your lies.

Conservatives love the hero Ronald Reagan.
 
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Ah, if you read the OP the problem is and was they lied to us once again over something they didn't have to lie about. Lie about the little stuff and how can we believe them with the big stuff?

Why assume that it is a deliberate lie? How about it was just an innocent mistake by the spokesperson who put out the original statement since they did not know that Kerry was on his boat when the crisis erupted. Would you prefer that the spokespersons always stipulate precisely that the Secretary was in the men's room when he received the call that there was an international crisis brewing in the ME?

This is yet another manufactured "red meat" issue designed to inflame those who hate the present administration. Try using a little perspective instead allowing yourself to be manipulated in this patently obvious manner.

No, actually what people should be tired of is the lying. OK the spokeperson didn't know so they made up a lie. They could have said they didn't know but that isn't the liberal way. The Pesident said that the "police acted stupidly" without knowing the facts. The President and Rice said that Benghazi was over a video long after everyone else knew that was nothing but BS.

So no, it is not manufactured. This administration has a clear record on making claims without checking the facts. They can't seem to come to terms with the fact that they may just not know everything, or at least they won't admit the same.

I guess the way you wish to wiggle out of this is to say that the spoke person didn't intentionally lie they just said something they didn't know was true, and BTW it wasn't true.

So ignore just another example of how this administration handles the truth if that makes you feel better.

Did the spokesperson say that Kerry was NOT on his boat? If he did then that is a lie. If he didn't then at best you can allege a "lie of omission". However this endless chorus of fabricated "outrages" wears thin and then no one pays any attention. It is the "cry wolf" syndrome.
 
Ah, if you read the OP the problem is and was they lied to us once again over something they didn't have to lie about. Lie about the little stuff and how can we believe them with the big stuff?

Why assume that it is a deliberate lie? How about it was just an innocent mistake by the spokesperson who put out the original statement since they did not know that Kerry was on his boat when the crisis erupted. Would you prefer that the spokespersons always stipulate precisely that the Secretary was in the men's room when he received the call that there was an international crisis brewing in the ME?

This is yet another manufactured "red meat" issue designed to inflame those who hate the present administration. Try using a little perspective instead allowing yourself to be manipulated in this patently obvious manner.

Because this is something they constantly look for..

Additionally most of them had no trouble whatsoever with a man who declared war on 2 nations while playing golf.

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congress authorized and funded iraq and afghanistan, Bush did not "declare war" on either of those nations. Presidents cannot declare war, only congress can do that.

We agree that going into those countries the way we did was a stupid waste of lives and money, but you need to stop lying about how it happened.
 
Old Kerry loves his boat almost as much as he loved the PBRs in VietNam.......I can't stand that clown.

Most conservatives can't stand American Heroes.

They generally spit on those who shed blood for this nation. So your feelings are understandable.

You personify this administration with your lies.

Conservatives love the hero Ronal Reagan.

Hero?

Ronald Reagan REALLY did commit treason.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZfnOJd_FmA]Reagan Breaks Laws then Lies About It - YouTube[/ame]
 

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