Kim Davis loses again...

[Statistikhengst]

I have to disagree on the whole bringing up her divorcees as a vehicle to attack her position. She is a saved woman so using her past transgressions against her now is pretty cheap.

Yes, because once you get "saved", it's like the best etch-a-sketch moment that Mitt Romney didn't get to enjoy.

Seriously?

Serial-killer? Did you dismember people? Eat some vital organs? But you're now saved, you say? Well, then, what's a little cannibalism among friends?!?!?

Damn, this saved stuff is an outstanding racket.

Free from sin and free from all past responsibilities.

Heavenly, just heavenly.

I think her legal reasoning is faulty and foolish but she found redemption. I'll attack the shit out her legally position but I think it is untoward to attack the past of a woman that is trying to atone for her past. Just my two cents on that matter.

Ok, I can buy that, kind of.

Exactly HOW is she trying to atone?

She reminds me a lot of the US HOR stenographer who literally flipped out during a session of the HOR, went all Michele Bachmann crazy eyed and all that shit, started talking in tongues, yadayadayada.......

You would have to ask Davis that question. I am not familiar with the inner workings of the Apostolic Church and it's doctrine.

There you may want to count your blessings.

 

[Statistikhengst]

In other words she got ALL her "morality" after she became a Christian??? What was she before?

A sinner who didn't believe and hadn't repented

...has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that Davis violated her oath of office, Article VI of the Constitution, and a just and proper ruling by the Supreme Court.

I answered his question. I didn't ask for your nonsense nor do I care

You are so unbelievably powerful. Can you move mountains with your halitosis?

I'm not powerful it's just you're so weak I seem that way to you, Herr Idiot

Uhm, no. You are simply and will forever be: batshit crazy.

Thanks.

 

[nat4900]

Nate, I cannot redeem you of your skepticism. That is something I have to pray to God for you about because I cannot convince you by reasoning of the mind. The problem is not with your mind! You are an intelligent man. There is no trouble with your mind. The matter is with your heart. I can tell you now that my prayer for you is God's very best for your life! I want to see you in heaven one day! God knows my heart! That is the truth! I feel the same about Dante, Stat, all of you!

Can't argue with that......Thank You, on behalf of all of us.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

She wasn't a Christian when she divorced you low info buffoon

In other words she got ALL her "morality" after she became a Christian??? What was she before?

A sinner who didn't believe and hadn't repented

You can't answer,can you?

Given religious nut jobs' (like Sassy) new-found "morality" any murderer who simply "REPENTS" his actions before his peers.....should be freed....I mean, after all, if we're a nation of religious zealots and NOT of laws all that one has to do is "repent" and be on his merry way.......(look at the money we'd save in closing down all those prisons. LOL)

You're all over the map (as usual) and trying to debate a topic you are clueless about, it makes you an easy idiot. I've already stated she should have resigned, there is the flaw in your premise, faux professor.

 

[mdk]

I have to disagree on the whole bringing up her divorcees as a vehicle to attack her position. She is a saved woman so using her past transgressions against her now is pretty cheap.

Yes, because once you get "saved", it's like the best etch-a-sketch moment that Mitt Romney didn't get to enjoy.

Seriously?

Serial-killer? Did you dismember people? Eat some vital organs? But you're now saved, you say? Well, then, what's a little cannibalism among friends?!?!?

Damn, this saved stuff is an outstanding racket.

Free from sin and free from all past responsibilities.

Heavenly, just heavenly.

I think her legal reasoning is faulty and foolish but she found redemption. I'll attack the shit out her legally position but I think it is untoward to attack the past of a woman that is trying to atone for her past. Just my two cents on that matter.

Shes not atoning, shes going from one form of douchenaggery to another...

Serial divorcee to digging her heels in the dirt bigot.

All evil like her should be shunned. Salami and bacon, mdk.

It isn't my place to judge her either way for her past. I don't think she is evil, misguided in her role as an elected official but evil, no. I wish nothing but the best for her and family. She still can't deny marriage licenses on the basis of her faith though.

I know 'douchenaggery' was a spelling error but I think you just invited my new favorite word. lol

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

'Here, let me tell you about the love of Christ. But first, I gotta hate on those fags over there. And just cuz I let myself get popped in the pussy by 4 or 5 different men and have affairs and children out of wedlock, it's still my holy deeeyuuuuty to hate those fags. Hallelujah, amen.'

There is no reason to hate any human being, Stat. Telling someone the truth about what the Bible says, what God has to say about the sin of sodomy is not hatred. It is Calvary love. Why would anyone not tell someone who is perishing in a certain sin - the truth about it? Only a coward would hold back the truth while knowing it! No coward will inherit the kingdom of heaven either.

Oh, I hate no one. The quote is not of me.

The Hebrew prophets spoke the oracles of God and would you have stoned them to death as some did? For speaking the truth? Isaiah was sawn in half, it is said that Jeremiah was stoned to death.. someone was hating them for speaking out against the sin in the land.

Do you advocate stoning people?

Oh, and back then, there were no saws.
At least not much outside of China, where they were invented.

Just saying.

No. I do not. Murdering the servants of God, imprisoning the servants of God in order to silence the Word of the LORD and the truth about sin is wrong, Stat. You are a Jewish man. Do you recall this story? About Shadrach, Meshach and Abednigo?

When they defied the command of Nebuchadnezzar and refused to bow down to an image of gold and commit the sin of idolatry against God? Do you believe they did the right thing? Choosing even to die rather than to bow down to evil? Or do you believe they should have complied because it was the law of the land? If you believe they did the right thing by refusing to bow down then why would you expect the Christians of this land to defy their own conscience and sin against God by partaking in same sex marriage licenses. Are you not expecting them to bow down to this wickedness? God is holy! We cannot do these things against God and His Word!


1 Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

2 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king sent to gather together the princes, the governors, and the captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.

3 Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together unto the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up.

4 Then an herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages,

5 That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up:

6 And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.

7 Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of musick, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.

8 Wherefore at that time certain Chaldeans came near, and accused the Jews.

9 They spake and said to the king Nebuchadnezzar, O king, live for ever.

10 Thou, O king, hast made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, shall fall down and worship the golden image:

11 And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth, that he should be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.

12 There are certain Jews whom thou hast set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego; these men, O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.

13 Then Nebuchadnezzar in his rage and fury commanded to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Then they brought these men before the king.

14 Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?

15 Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?

16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.

17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.

18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.

19 Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated.

20 And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.

21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

22 Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flames of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonished, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.

25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire.

27 And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.

28 Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.

29 Therefore I make a decree, That every people, nation, and language, which speak any thing amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill: because there is no other God that can deliver after this sort.

30 Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, in the province of Babylon.

Daniel 3:1-30

King James Version (KJV)

 

[paperview]

MLK got thrown in jail for violating perfectly valid laws, too. The point is whether those laws are ethical or moral, or benefit society.

The comparison you're looking for is George wallace.

Not MLK.

"Marriage equality? No. Gays may need protection, but this is overc reach and then some."

It's over. Your side lost.

Deal with it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

MLK got thrown in jail for violating perfectly valid laws, too. The point is whether those laws are ethical or moral, or benefit society. Marriage equality? No. Gays may need protection, but this is overc reach and then some.

Nice post...

 

[Statistikhengst]

She wasn't a Christian when she divorced you low info buffoon

In other words she got ALL her "morality" after she became a Christian??? What was she before?

A sinner who didn't believe and hadn't repented

You can't answer,can you?

Given religious nut jobs' (like Sassy) new-found "morality" any murderer who simply "REPENTS" his actions before his peers.....should be freed....I mean, after all, if we're a nation of religious zealots and NOT of laws all that one has to do is "repent" and be on his merry way.......(look at the money we'd save in closing down all those prisons. LOL)

You're all over the map (as usual) and trying to debate a topic you are clueless about, it makes you an easy idiot. I've already stated she should have resigned, there is the flaw in your premise, faux professor.

Why should she have to resign? All she has to do is to do her job or take another job where she doesn't have to deal with any 'icky' people.

 

[G.T.]

MLK got thrown in jail for violating perfectly valid laws, too. The point is whether those laws are ethical or moral, or benefit society. Marriage equality? No. Gays may need protection, but this is overc reach and then some.

Mlk would have been riding with the gays for equal access to civil marriage had he not lived in that era but this.

Thats quite obvious

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Kim Davis is the new face of the religious right: Angry, marginalized and increasingly desperate

As their numbers dwindle and their cultural influence wanes, Evangelicals are seizing power any way they can"

And as a consequence they are extremely dangerous – they will only become more aggressive, more desperate, and more of a threat to the freedom and liberty of all Americans, by seeking to contrive and propagate heinous lies, such as their 'religious liberty' is being 'violated' by just, proper, and Constitutional laws.

The hatred against Christians in America is increasing. No question about it. Christians are not trying to seize power any way they can but Christians most certainly have an obligation to endure until the end, to hold fast to our faith in Jesus Christ and to not be intimidated by wicked rulers in the land.

Christian fundamentalists and the social right are the bane of the American Nation.

Instead of practicing their beliefs in accordance with Establishment Clause case law, they seek instead to conjoin church and state in violation of the Framers' mandate that both remain separate; they seek to codify errant, subjective religious dogma into secular law all must obey, and they are hostile to religious diversity and dissent, including those free from faith.

No one seeks to disadvantage Christian fundamentalists or social conservatives, nothing in First Amendment jurisprudence seeks to do so, and the Constitution's requirement that Davis abide by the rule of law likewise manifests no 'attack' on her religious liberties.

 

[G.T.]

I have to disagree on the whole bringing up her divorcees as a vehicle to attack her position. She is a saved woman so using her past transgressions against her now is pretty cheap.

Yes, because once you get "saved", it's like the best etch-a-sketch moment that Mitt Romney didn't get to enjoy.

Seriously?

Serial-killer? Did you dismember people? Eat some vital organs? But you're now saved, you say? Well, then, what's a little cannibalism among friends?!?!?

Damn, this saved stuff is an outstanding racket.

Free from sin and free from all past responsibilities.

Heavenly, just heavenly.

I think her legal reasoning is faulty and foolish but she found redemption. I'll attack the shit out her legally position but I think it is untoward to attack the past of a woman that is trying to atone for her past. Just my two cents on that matter.

Shes not atoning, shes going from one form of douchenaggery to another...

Serial divorcee to digging her heels in the dirt bigot.

All evil like her should be shunned. Salami and bacon, mdk.

It isn't my place to judge her either way for her past. I don't think she is evil, misguided in her role as an elected official but evil, no. I wish nothing but the best for her and family. She still can't deny marriage licenses on the basis of her faith though.

I know 'douchenaggery' was a spelling error but I think you just invited my new favorite word. lol

Lol nah, it was on purpose.

And its more like who is SHE to judge you. And not only that, but to take it a step further and attempt to use her position of power to deny you rights.

The gay marriage issue is as clear as day in my eyes good versus evil.

I cannot reconcile in my brain how you could be an honest and open minded good person while also seeing others the way they do and taking it a step further and even acting on it.

It is irreconcilable, to me.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

"Kim Davis is the new face of the religious right: Angry, marginalized and increasingly desperate

As their numbers dwindle and their cultural influence wanes, Evangelicals are seizing power any way they can"

And as a consequence they are extremely dangerous – they will only become more aggressive, more desperate, and more of a threat to the freedom and liberty of all Americans, by seeking to contrive and propagate heinous lies, such as their 'religious liberty' is being 'violated' by just, proper, and Constitutional laws.

The hatred against Christians in America is increasing. No question about it. Christians are not trying to seize power any way they can but Christians most certainly have an obligation to endure until the end, to hold fast to our faith in Jesus Christ and to not be intimidated by wicked rulers in the land.

Christian fundamentalists and the social right are the bane of the American Nation.

Instead of practicing their beliefs in accordance with Establishment Clause case law, they seek instead to conjoin church and state in violation of the Framers' mandate that both remain separate; they seek to codify errant, subjective religious dogma into secular law all must obey, and they are hostile to religious diversity and dissent, including those free from faith.

No one seeks to disadvantage Christian fundamentalists or social conservatives, nothing in First Amendment jurisprudence seeks to do so, and the Constitution's requirement that Davis abide by the rule of law likewise manifests no 'attack' on her religious liberties.

I do understand that you feel that way, Clayton. I hope you have a nice evening. Good night.

 

[Statistikhengst]

So, what do we have?

We have one clerk out of, literally, THOUSANDS of such clerks across the USA, who doesn't do her job and who discriminates against gay ('eek, icky, bad, yech!!!') people because she is a "Christian". Yes, indeed, a Christian who has been married 4 times and had some kids out of wedlock. Super!

And then Mr. "I am Christianity" Mike Huckabee swoops down from Arkansas (where if you divorce your wife, she is still yer sister, Goddamnit) into Kentucky to show us how to use a fugly adultress as a prop AND how to cockblock another "Christian", namely Canadian usurper Calgary Cruz.

What entertainment. And it's all FREE.

 

[nat4900]

MLK got thrown in jail for violating perfectly valid laws, too. The point is whether those laws are ethical or moral, or benefit society. Marriage equality? No. Gays may need protection, but this is overc reach and then some.

MLK, in his letter from the Birmingham jail, chided the other pastors that THEY should be in jail right next to him if they were TRULY Christians.... given that rationale, Huckabee, Cruz, Santorum, and all the other "fair-weather" zealots should clamor for a jail cell.

 

[hazlnut]

How do homophobes wrap their heads around the fact that we are a national of many beliefs, faiths, cultures, religions, and secular philosophies. And when you take a government job, the understanding is that you will serve them all, despite your own faith.

How the fuck does that work? You believe in this country and freedom of religion (including the right to not believe in God) and yet you think your religion should trump them all.

 

[MaryL]

cc

MLK got thrown in jail for violating perfectly valid laws, too. The point is whether those laws are ethical or moral, or benefit society. Marriage equality? No. Gays may need protection, but this is overc reach and then some.

Mlk would have been riding with the gays for equal access to civil marriage had he not lived in that era but this.

Thats quite obvious

The media hound he was, you may have a point. Just like Kim Davis. Just like.

 

[G.T.]

How do homophobes wrap their heads around the fact that we are a national of many beliefs, faiths, cultures, religions, and secular philosophies. And when you take a government job, the understanding is that you will serve them all, despite your own faith.

How the fuck does that work? You believe in this country and freedom of religion (including the right to not believe in God) and yet you think your religion should trump them all.

Theyre not all of this view. Just the evil ones.

 

[nat4900]

And then Mr. "I am Christianity" Mike Huckabee swoops down from Arkansas (where if you divorce your wife, she is still yer sister, Goddamnit) into Kentucky to show us how to use a fugly adultress as a prop AND how to cockblock another "Christian", namely Canadian usurper Calgary Cruz.

I LOVE IT.......(can you picture Cruz, while grasping his Bible, stating......"that son of a bitch, Huckabee, kept me out of the Christian limelight...that asshole"...LOL)

 

[Carla_Danger]

The same as all of us before Christ. A sinner.

Nate, You are not a low info buffoon. You're just not seeing this as God sees it and therein you cannot understand how a Christian would view this nor how our founding fathers - who were Christians viewed marriage. There has been much distortion over these interpretations and it is very troubling.

Unfortunately, God has changed his cell phone number and I can't any longer find out exactly how he/she/it "sees it".....

and when you state, "..... as all of us before Christ. A sinner....." know that you're labeling 2 billion Jews, Hindu, Buddhists, and Muslims, a bunch of sinners........

You AND Davis have a lot of work ahead of you.

Unlike Jeremiah, you don't have a direct line to Gawd? Jeremiah must be special.