Lake Meade original water intake valve is visible for the first time since 1971

[ReinyDays]

Yeah, as I thought. You aren't really all that familiar with water issues in SoCal. Sorry I bothered you./

So ... you agree rainfall patterns aren't changing ... thank you ...

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

So ... you agree rainfall patterns aren't changing ... thank you ...

What is it with you guys and misrepresenting other posters' posts? Does lying just feel good to you?

I'm never surprised at how duplicitous and mendacious you lot are.

 

[eagle1462010]

I understand your point ... but I don't think there's very many salt mines close to Huntington Beach ... the brine has to go back into the ocean, but that doesn't mean it has to go back where it will hurt stuff ... lay pipe over the continental shelf ... no fuzzy baby sea lions will be harmed ...

I've seen where it can be an issue close to land..........Ships are not allowed to dump it close in now.........If that is still the case.........Vast amount of water will increase the salinity.......if in massive doses...........But this can be handled.

Doesn't matter........the people of California have elected LOSERS.............who again are stopping the building of them............Oh well.........let them go without water if they are that freaking stupid

 

[eagle1462010]

I'm gonna hire a witch doctor to go run naked out there and do some rain dances.

We don't want them to come here..............Damn.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

I've seen where it can be an issue close to land..........Ships are not allowed to dump it close in now.........If that is still the case.........Vast amount of water will increase the salinity.......if in massive doses...........But this can be handled.

Doesn't matter........the people of California have elected LOSERS.............who again are stopping the building of them............Oh well.........let them go without water if they are that freaking stupid

It's unfortunate........that California........................voters.....elected...........................such losers. The topic of ..............how......to get.................................more water into....................................................the desert southwest has...........................been ongoing for...............decades.....now.

Desal..............is very.......expensive and...................................energy.............intensive.

 

[eagle1462010]

It's unfortunate........that California........................voters.....elected...........................such losers. The topic of ..............how......to get.................................more water into....................................................the desert southwest has...........................been ongoing for...............decades.....now.

Desal..............is very.......expensive and...................................energy.............intensive.

Well..............they ................are .............stupid.................and ............if ...............they .............want .................to DARWIN.................themselves..............OH......................................WELL.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Well..............they ................are .............stupid.................and ............if ...............they .............want .................to DARWIN.................themselves..............OH......................................WELL.

Yes........but.......desalinization......................is......very...........expensive.

As............I said............earlier.......................there have......been...many.................alternatives...........suggested. The water...............situation................isn't.............just...due..to...........the politicians...........you......don't approve.....of.


This....has..been........going on...........for.....more...than............a...........century.

 

[Leo123]

California water ... that includes San Lois and Banks ...

You seem completely focused on snow ... it also rains in the Sierras ... and rainwater can be collected behind these dams just as easily as snowmelt ...

Here in Western Oregon, we empty our reservoirs every fall ... they have to contain a "100-year" flood event so they need to be empty unless we're flooding ... and these reservoirs fill up fast ... days, not weeks ... kinda amazing how much water can fall from the sky in a rather short period of time ...

Surprise surprise surprise ... most of these California dams have the same mandate ... containing a "100-year" flood event ... and managers measure how much snow in on the ground, calculate how much water if all the snow melted at once, plus the rain from an atmospheric river event, during a particularly wet year ... and draw their reservoirs down to contain that volume ... the outflow finds Banks and winds up in San Lois or points south ...

Split the State in half and make them fuckers in LA pay out their bloody assholes for Jefferson water ... they'll outlaw lawns there in a hurry I'll warrant ...

Yes, and Shasta Dam water releases are regulated by the Feds and local CA water authorities. The Sacramento river rises and falls accordingly. They try to predict how much water to retain and how much to release. In any case, the Central Valley and LA have been increasing their water usage year after year. They will need new water sources and, since most of lower CA is prone to drought the only place to get that water is from the Pacific ocean via desalinization facilities. Unfortunately Newsom is more concerned with spending now 100 Billion on a bullet train going essentially nowhere.

 

[marvin martian]

Yeah, as I thought. You aren't really all that familiar with water issues in SoCal. Sorry I bothered you./

Keep voting for DemoKKKrats - no new water storage infrastructure. Enjoy your drought.

 

[Leo123]

Keep voting for DemoKKKrats - no new water storage infrastructure. Enjoy your drought.

Greenies won't allow more water storage because they say dams negatively affect fish populations and the environment. Human needs are not part of their policies.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Keep voting for DemoKKKrats - no new water storage infrastructure. Enjoy your drought.

LOL.

So what is YOUR suggestion for improved water storage infrastructure. Given that just about every river coming out of the Sierras is now dammed I'm not sure how much more storage they can get.

I have little doubt more storage could be made available but that's not really the significant part of the problem.

 

[Leo123]

LOL.

So what is YOUR suggestion for improved water storage infrastructure. Given that just about every river coming out of the Sierras is now dammed I'm not sure how much more storage they can get.

I have little doubt more storage could be made available but that's not really the significant part of the problem.

Greenies have been destroying a lot of dams and pumps that have been delivering water to the West side of the Sacramento river where most of the drought takes place.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Greenies have been destroying a lot of dams.

How many and where?

 

[Leo123]

How many and where?

The simultaneous removal of the four dams, with a combined height of 411ft (125m), makes it the largest dam removal project in America’s history, according to the Klamath River Renewal Corporation, the nonprofit tasked with overseeing the dam removals. It is also set to be the most expensive, at a cost of almost $450m

The largest dam-removal in US history

For over a century, one of the most important salmon runs in the United States has had to contend with historic dams – and now four of them are set to be taken down.

www.bbc.com

That was one of the largest.

Another link:

Largest US dam removal stirs debate over coveted West water

Plans to tear down four hydroelectric dams in rugged country along the Oregon-California border to save salmon are generating excitement from environmentalists and tribes, and fear and anger among those who want the dams to stay

abcnews.go.com

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

The simultaneous removal of the four dams, with a combined height of 411ft (125m), makes it the largest dam removal project in America’s history, according to the Klamath River Renewal Corporation, the nonprofit tasked with overseeing the dam removals. It is also set to be the most expensive, at a cost of almost $450m

The largest dam-removal in US history

For over a century, one of the most important salmon runs in the United States has had to contend with historic dams – and now four of them are set to be taken down.

www.bbc.com

That was one of the largest.

Another link:

Largest US dam removal stirs debate over coveted West water

Plans to tear down four hydroelectric dams in rugged country along the Oregon-California border to save salmon are generating excitement from environmentalists and tribes, and fear and anger among those who want the dams to stay

abcnews.go.com

Wow...4 dams! Well I see how they are without water now!

 

[Leo123]

Wow...4 dams! Well I see how they are without water now!

It's still a lot of lost water but, nobody is without water but the agriculture on the West side of the Sacramento River has had their water supply significantly cut, residents are told to cut their water usage, etc. That being said, I am not arguing not to re-open the natural rivers in No. CA, but they had better solve their water problem somehow. As I mentioned, my suggestion is desalinization plants and closed aqueducts. OR, maybe it's just best for people to move away and significantly reduce agriculture?

 

[Sunsettommy]

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0959683620919972

Climate Change in the Sierra Nevada

Using an innovative technique to produce high-resolution future climate projections, our team is answering key questions about the fate of the Sierra Nevada snowpack, a critical natural resource that…

www.ioes.ucla.edu

What is the proxy data resolution of Tree rings from the paper?

How can Tree Rings measure snowfall when it is dormant?

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

What is the proxy data resolution of Tree rings from the paper?

How can Tree Rings measure snowfall when it is dormant?

-Yawn-

 

[Sunsettommy]

What is it with you guys and misrepresenting other posters' posts? Does lying just feel good to you?

I'm never surprised at how duplicitous and mendacious you lot are.

You didn't provide a straight answer you refer to a paper and little else.

 

[Sunsettommy]

-Yawn-

Yeah, those reasonable questions are too much for you then, sleep well.