Legal experts: Prosecutor overcharged; will be difficult to win trial.

[MikeK]

Any indictments will be overturned by a higher court. The police union is 100% on the side of their officers. They have unlimited financial and legal resources.

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You are absolutely right -- when circumstances allow. Those circumstances being a lack of clear and undeniable evidence useful to the prosecution.

While the public is not yet aware of every item of evidence useful to the prosecution of these Baltimore cops, it appears to me the prosecutor is counting on testimony by one or more of them to identify the individual(s) who actually produced the injury that led to Gray's death. And faced with the choice of ten or more years in prison or dismissal of charges, that testimony will be readily forthcoming -- as it always is in such situations.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The charges can be, and will be, amended if necessary.

 

[MikeK]

The charges can be, and will be, amended if necessary.

Actually, charging all six of those cops with murder would work to their advantage so long as there is no clear evidence of purposeful intent to kill Freddie Gray. Absent such evidence they would necessarily be found not guilty.

So you're right. The murder charges will be reduced to some level of manslaughter or, for some, criminal negligence. Right now the prosecutor's main objective will be to subtly coerce testimony from the apparently least culpable of the six defendants, which will be no problem.

I say no problem because only one of those defendants has maintained his Miranda rights. The other five have agreed to testify. If all six had held to Miranda the prosecutor would be stonewalled.

I believe we soon will hear the singing from here.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yup.

 

[bucs90]

The charges can be, and will be, amended if necessary.

Actually, charging all six of those cops with murder would work to their advantage so long as there is no clear evidence of purposeful intent to kill Freddie Gray. Absent such evidence they would necessarily be found not guilty.

So you're right. The murder charges will be reduced to some level of manslaughter or, for some, criminal negligence. Right now the prosecutor's main objective will be to subtly coerce testimony from the apparently least culpable of the six defendants, which will be no problem.

I say no problem because only one of those defendants has maintained his Miranda rights. The other five have agreed to testify. If all six had held to Miranda the prosecutor would be stonewalled.

I believe we soon will hear the singing from here.

Horrible misuse of authority. Charging 5 with bullshit charges to get 1 is abuse. Sorry. And I say the same when cops use that trick vs criminals.

You charge reasonably based on evidence. No more no less.

 

[JakeStarkey]

STFU. You testified in such trials all the time.

 

[MikeK]

Horrible misuse of authority. Charging 5 with bullshit charges to get 1 is abuse. Sorry. And I say the same when cops use that trick vs criminals.

You charge reasonably based on evidence. No more no less.

I suppose you can call it a misuse of authority -- among other things. But it's also an extremely common prosecutorial method.

 

[JoeB131]

Horrible misuse of authority. Charging 5 with bullshit charges to get 1 is abuse. Sorry. And I say the same when cops use that trick vs criminals.

You charge reasonably based on evidence. No more no less.

You mean we are treating criminal cops like regular criminals? Oh, the horror.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It's a good tactic, and in this case, will separate the good from the bad.

 

[dannyboys]

Not one of the officers was in the truck/van with/when Freddy The Freeloader was being transported. The driver has a steel partition wall between those being transported and himself.
When FTF was put in the vehicle it is clear on the videotape he was standing up as he entered the vehicle. Nothing 'different' happened in the procedure the cops followed in FTF's case.
The on-board GPS will PROVE FTF didn't get any 'Nickel Ride'. That's a bullshit myth that if it ever happened in the past sure as hell wouldn't happen now. The fucking negro driver KNEW the vehicle has a GPS. It was installed four years ago.
'FTF' was a stupid negro drama-queen.
Typical thug. Commit violent crimes and when caught whine like a ten year old girl.

 

[JakeStarkey]

dannyboys is pissing on his own shoes. Contributory and willful negligence can be escalated to murder charges.

 

[dannyboys]

If you think any of the cops are going to 'roll' on the others you all have been watching too much TV.
The police union's lawyers are the best in the country. They are going to tear the little girl Pros. case to shreds LONG before anything goes to any jury.
A couple of misdemeanor charges on a couple of cops and everyone goes home.
The negro cops will never set foot on the streets of B as patrol cops again. The White cops will be offered other jobs well out of the state.
'FTF''s family will 'settle' for ten grand and they will spend every fucking penny on legal fees attempting to sue each other.

 

[JakeStarkey]

dannyboys demonstrates again his lack of awareness.

 

[mudwhistle]

The Baltimore Sun

Welcome to the opening act folks.

Its the very first American kangaroo court of racial fairness and social justice. When charges are made....just because everyone will be mad if they arent.

Legal experts say this case will be very hard to prove. And the prosecutor overcharged. And she did. All in the name of radical left wing fairness and justice.

Thank God I live in a red city in a red state.

Black leaders have been looking for another Rodney King for 20 years....and now they have a guy in the Whitehouse that controls the media and has nothing to lose by fabricating racial incidents through his black organizations such as offshoots from ACORN. They've been training anarchists since before he took the Whitehouse. It's no crazy coincidence that this is happening now.
Brutally Honest Camp Obama Training future communists and street agitators

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Alinsky is the late Chicago socialist and street agitator who is considered the father of community organizing.

Another slide of a camp trainer identified as Mike Kruglik is equally telling. Kruglik happens to be the Alinsky disciple who first taught Obama hardball organizing tactics on the South Side. He was Obama's boss in the '80s. Kruglik now works for the Chicago-based Gamaliel Foundation, which trains and deploys radicals across the country.

Kruglik once declared Obama "the undisputed master of agitation," according to David Freddoso, author of the best-seller "The Case Against Barack Obama."

Obama learned well from the master agitator. Alinsky taught future radicals that bad things are often done for the right reasons, love without power is sentimental mush, power must be taken, and all change comes about as a result of threat and pressure.

Obama calls his Alinskyite experience "the best education I ever had."

Now he's passing it on to his groupies. He recently told supporters in Nevada, a state that will be hotly contested, to sharpen their elbows in the final lap of the race. Confront Republicans, he said, and "get in their faces."

 

[mudwhistle]

Watching a CNN interview right now with the state attorney who filed the charges, and holy shit, she looks and sounds like a fucking kid !!!

Baltimore is screwed, just look at the pathetic mayor and prosecutor they have there. Is this the best they can do?

They're making sure Baltimore get tons of federal cash...by creating a disaster like Katrina...Only man-made.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And mud is making money supplying the government while complaining about it. Exactly what he was complaining about when the govt partially shut down and worried about his retirement.

 

[Katzndogz]

The case was overcharged just to make the rabble happy. There is no possibility of using those charges to persuade one cop to testify agsinst another. That would be letting one off the hook. The rabble won't tolerate that. There will be no plea bargains out of this case. There will also be no murder conviction.

 

[MikeK]

The case was overcharged just to make the rabble happy. There is no possibility of using those charges to persuade one cop to testify agsinst another. That would be letting one off the hook. The rabble won't tolerate that. There will be no plea bargains out of this case. There will also be no murder conviction.

Unless it can be shown that one or more of those six cops acted or conspired to deliberately kill Gray there was no murder. So we can rest assured the murder charge will soon be reduced to some level of manslaughter, depraved indifference, reckless endangerment, or some Maryland equivalents.

 

[longknife]

No.....But the Mayor gave her blessing for the property destruction....Businesses that may very well have not been insured...Businesses that will never be financially able to reopen.
Even those that were insured, most likely had polices that do not cover for 'riot' 'war' 'insurrection' or other man made affray.....

if you don't have insurance, you shouldn't have a business in a high-crime neighborhood.

I think the mayor did a shitty job, and they should kick her ass out in the next election if she doesn't have the common decency to resign.

But Longknife stated that the rioters should be held accountable for all the people they (didn't) kill. They didn't kill any. The ones who were caught damaging property are going to be arrested. Particularly the ones dumb enough to do selfies and post them on social media.

So you have them convicted already?.....Ok...Lets forget the trial.....

Not seeing a need for a trial to conclude that when a man had his neck snapped and was left on a cold metal floor for a couple of hours, someone did something wrong.

Not one single arrest will be made of those identified as looting and the rest! Not one!

 

[JoeB131]

Not one single arrest will be made of those identified as looting and the rest! Not one!

200 arrested in Baltimore rioting 144 cars destroyed KXAN.com

Rioters plunged part of Baltimore into chaos Monday, torching a pharmacy, setting police cars ablaze and throwing bricks at officers hours after thousands mourned the man who died from a severe spinal injury he suffered in police custody. Officials in Baltimore say 200 people have been arrested, and 144 cars and 15 buildings have been destroyed by fire.