Legal question on Trump's future

[12icer]

As evident by this forum, we can argue about Trump's Russia collusion and his obstruction of justice allegations, etc. for still a while while through Muller prepares his final report.

However, a couple of issues are INDISPUTABLE:

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels, and
Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Now, the question arises when Trump is finally out of office and the "shield" of the oval office is no longer applicable. WILL or CAN TRUMP be charged for the above violations???

Just asking.....

Could you be so kind as to provide a link to the emolument laws?

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I'll let the reporting educate you.........

Judge Allows Trump Emoluments Clause Lawsuit To Proceed : NPR

https://www.npr.org/.../federal-lawsuit-against-president-trumps-business-interests-allowe...
Jul 25, 2018 - Federal Lawsuit Against President Trump's Business Interests Allowed To ... goes undefined in the U.S. Constitution's two emoluments clauses.

Federal judge allows emoluments case against Trump to proceed ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...emoluments-case-against-trump.../c8070206-8fa4-1...
Jul 25, 2018 - D.C. and Maryland are suing President Trump for violating a little-known constitutional provision called "the emoluments clause." (Video: Jenny ...

An update on the Emoluments cases - National Constitution Center

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/an-update-on-the-emoluments-casesAug 1, 2018 - Since Donald Trump's election in November 2016, three separate lawsuits ... The ForeignEmoluments clause is part of Article I, Section 9, and ...

Judge allows case over foreign gifts to proceed against President ...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/politics/emoluments-case-donald-trump.../index.html
Jul 25, 2018 - A federal judge in Maryland on Wednesday denied a motion to dismiss portions of alawsuit alleging that President Donald Trump, through his ... considering whether he violated theemoluments clause in an official cap acity.

Judge Denies Trump's Request to Dismiss Emoluments Lawsuit - The ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/us/.../trump-emoluments-democrats-lawsuit.html
Sep 28, 2018 - A case brought by Democrats in Congress could give them access to a ... cleared a key hurdle on Friday in their effort to sue President Trump over ... If Judge Sullivan finds that Mr. Trump has violated the emoluments clause, ...
Judge: Democrats in Congress can sue Donald Trump in emoluments ...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...trump-emoluments-case/1470694002/Sep 29, 2018 - The emoluments clause bars presidents from accepting gifts from foreign ... The Department of Justice, which is representing Trump in the case, ...
Trump emoluments clause lawsuit: Dems have standing, judge says ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-emoluments-clause-lawsuit-judge-democrats-s...Sep 28, 2018 - A federal judge ruled that congressional Democrats have standing to sue PresidentDonald Trump over alleged violations of the emoluments ...
Federal judge ruled against Trump in emoluments clause lawsuit ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-judge-ruled-against-trump-in-emoluments-cl...Jul 25, 2018 - A federal judge just ruled against Trump in one of the biggest cases involving ... The judge ruled that the emoluments clause, which bars public ...

Judge rejects Trump attempt to dismiss emoluments clause lawsuit ...

https://thehill.com/.../398803-judge-rejects-trump-attempt-to-dismiss-emoluments-clau...Jul 25, 2018 - Judge rejects Trump attempt to dismiss emoluments clause lawsuit ... The lawsuitaddressed in court Wednesday focuses on the profit Trump ...

Court: Emoluments Clause Applies To Trump And His Hotel Profits ...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/.../trump-emoluments-clause_us_5b58bbb5e4b0de8...Jul 25, 2018 - A landmark case arguing that Trump has violated the Constitution by ... President Donald Trump is subject to the Constitution's emoluments ...

Wow, all those repetitive links and not one federal statute in sight. Go figure.

For emoluments its Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 in Constitution. Its known as "title of nobility".
Get ready for the deep dive.

Why would I get ready for a “deep dive” your citation has nothing to do with Trump or the President of the United States you are like all dimshit idiots and some liberal judges the constitution is a mystery.

 

[Doc1]

As evident by this forum, we can argue about Trump's Russia collusion and his obstruction of justice allegations, etc. for still a while while through Muller prepares his final report.

However, a couple of issues are INDISPUTABLE:

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels, and
Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Now, the question arises when Trump is finally out of office and the "shield" of the oval office is no longer applicable. WILL or CAN TRUMP be charged for the above violations???

Just asking.....

ANY day now kid.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

As evident by this forum, we can argue about Trump's Russia collusion and his obstruction of justice allegations, etc. for still a while while through Muller prepares his final report.

However, a couple of issues are INDISPUTABLE:

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels, and
Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Now, the question arises when Trump is finally out of office and the "shield" of the oval office is no longer applicable. WILL or CAN TRUMP be charged for the above violations???

Just asking.....

Likely not.

It would establish legal precedent that could expose the next president to criminal prosecution after he leaves office.

 

[Polishprince]

As evident by this forum, we can argue about Trump's Russia collusion and his obstruction of justice allegations, etc. for still a while while through Muller prepares his final report.

However, a couple of issues are INDISPUTABLE:

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels, and
Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Now, the question arises when Trump is finally out of office and the "shield" of the oval office is no longer applicable. WILL or CAN TRUMP be charged for the above violations???

Just asking.....

Neither of those "facts" are "indisputable" at all.

Payoffs to hoes making accusations aren't valid or legal campaign expenses, so it would have been improper for those expenses to have come from the Trump Campaign. Trump did it right, by cutting a check from his personal account. And when Daniels pays it back, it go back to the Trumpster as well.

As far as "emoluments", there are none. The Trump Organization was able to find two very able young men to run the business while President Trump is conducting the nation's business. Besides, any "emoluments" would have to be banned by Congress, and the Congress hasn't even submitted legislation on the matter.

 

[nat4900]

As evident by this forum, we can argue about Trump's Russia collusion and his obstruction of justice allegations, etc. for still a while while through Muller prepares his final report.

However, a couple of issues are INDISPUTABLE:

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels, and
Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Now, the question arises when Trump is finally out of office and the "shield" of the oval office is no longer applicable. WILL or CAN TRUMP be charged for the above violations???

Just asking.....

Could you be so kind as to provide a link to the emolument laws?

.

I'll let the reporting educate you.........

Judge Allows Trump Emoluments Clause Lawsuit To Proceed : NPR

https://www.npr.org/.../federal-lawsuit-against-president-trumps-business-interests-allowe...
Jul 25, 2018 - Federal Lawsuit Against President Trump's Business Interests Allowed To ... goes undefined in the U.S. Constitution's two emoluments clauses.

Federal judge allows emoluments case against Trump to proceed ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...emoluments-case-against-trump.../c8070206-8fa4-1...
Jul 25, 2018 - D.C. and Maryland are suing President Trump for violating a little-known constitutional provision called "the emoluments clause." (Video: Jenny ...

An update on the Emoluments cases - National Constitution Center

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/an-update-on-the-emoluments-casesAug 1, 2018 - Since Donald Trump's election in November 2016, three separate lawsuits ... The ForeignEmoluments clause is part of Article I, Section 9, and ...

Judge allows case over foreign gifts to proceed against President ...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/politics/emoluments-case-donald-trump.../index.html
Jul 25, 2018 - A federal judge in Maryland on Wednesday denied a motion to dismiss portions of alawsuit alleging that President Donald Trump, through his ... considering whether he violated theemoluments clause in an official cap acity.

Judge Denies Trump's Request to Dismiss Emoluments Lawsuit - The ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/us/.../trump-emoluments-democrats-lawsuit.html
Sep 28, 2018 - A case brought by Democrats in Congress could give them access to a ... cleared a key hurdle on Friday in their effort to sue President Trump over ... If Judge Sullivan finds that Mr. Trump has violated the emoluments clause, ...
Judge: Democrats in Congress can sue Donald Trump in emoluments ...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...trump-emoluments-case/1470694002/Sep 29, 2018 - The emoluments clause bars presidents from accepting gifts from foreign ... The Department of Justice, which is representing Trump in the case, ...
Trump emoluments clause lawsuit: Dems have standing, judge says ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-emoluments-clause-lawsuit-judge-democrats-s...Sep 28, 2018 - A federal judge ruled that congressional Democrats have standing to sue PresidentDonald Trump over alleged violations of the emoluments ...
Federal judge ruled against Trump in emoluments clause lawsuit ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-judge-ruled-against-trump-in-emoluments-cl...Jul 25, 2018 - A federal judge just ruled against Trump in one of the biggest cases involving ... The judge ruled that the emoluments clause, which bars public ...

Judge rejects Trump attempt to dismiss emoluments clause lawsuit ...

https://thehill.com/.../398803-judge-rejects-trump-attempt-to-dismiss-emoluments-clau...Jul 25, 2018 - Judge rejects Trump attempt to dismiss emoluments clause lawsuit ... The lawsuitaddressed in court Wednesday focuses on the profit Trump ...

Court: Emoluments Clause Applies To Trump And His Hotel Profits ...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/.../trump-emoluments-clause_us_5b58bbb5e4b0de8...Jul 25, 2018 - A landmark case arguing that Trump has violated the Constitution by ... President Donald Trump is subject to the Constitution's emoluments ...

Wow, all those repetitive links and not one federal statute in sight. Go figure.

Sigh..........

The emoluments clause, also called the foreign emoluments clause, is a provision of the U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 8) that generally prohibits federal officeholders from receiving any gift,, payment or other thing of value from a foreign state or its rulers, officers, or representatives.

 

[nat4900]

If Trump actually colluded with the Russians to defraud the American people of a fair election or any deal he made that defrauds the government, he could be charge under
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States.

Indeed......Possibly, the "best" deal for Trump would be resignation with Pence agreeing to pardon him before stepping down.....A-la Nixon-Ford.......

(of course, we know what happened to Ford......a most decent republican.)

 

[bripat9643]

As evident by this forum, we can argue about Trump's Russia collusion and his obstruction of justice allegations, etc. for still a while while through Muller prepares his final report.

However, a couple of issues are INDISPUTABLE:

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels, and
Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Now, the question arises when Trump is finally out of office and the "shield" of the oval office is no longer applicable. WILL or CAN TRUMP be charged for the above violations???

Just asking.....

I hate to disappoint you, moron, but that is easily disputable.

 

[Crepitus]

As evident by this forum, we can argue about Trump's Russia collusion and his obstruction of justice allegations, etc. for still a while while through Muller prepares his final report.

However, a couple of issues are INDISPUTABLE:

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels, and
Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Now, the question arises when Trump is finally out of office and the "shield" of the oval office is no longer applicable. WILL or CAN TRUMP be charged for the above violations???

Just asking.....

Are you just as fucking moronic in real life as you are here?

This means "yes he can along with other things but I can't admit it".

 

[Crepitus]

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels,

Cohen violated federal election laws. Trump can pay off anyone he wants.

Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Why have they not pursued this if true? Seriously? What is the hold up?

.

Why do you think those laws don't apply to tRump, and it is the republican congress that is currently holding up the emollients violations investigation.

 

[Crepitus]

After Trump's new AG rips the left a new one they won't be on the forum getting uppity.

Republicans are all about corrupting government for personal gain aren't they.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels,

Cohen violated federal election laws. Trump can pay off anyone he wants.

Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Why have they not pursued this if true? Seriously? What is the hold up?

.

Why do you think those laws don't apply to tRump, and it is the republican congress that is currently holding up the emollients violations investigation.

They apply to everyone in government, but Trump hasn't broken them, moron.

 

[dudmuck]

As evident by this forum, we can argue about Trump's Russia collusion and his obstruction of justice allegations, etc. for still a while while through Muller prepares his final report.

However, a couple of issues are INDISPUTABLE:

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels, and
Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Now, the question arises when Trump is finally out of office and the "shield" of the oval office is no longer applicable. WILL or CAN TRUMP be charged for the above violations???

Just asking.....

Neither of those "facts" are "indisputable" at all.

Payoffs to hoes making accusations aren't valid or legal campaign expenses, so it would have been improper for those expenses to have come from the Trump Campaign. Trump did it right, by cutting a check from his personal account. And when Daniels pays it back, it go back to the Trumpster as well.

As far as "emoluments", there are none. The Trump Organization was able to find two very able young men to run the business while President Trump is conducting the nation's business. Besides, any "emoluments" would have to be banned by Congress, and the Congress hasn't even submitted legislation on the matter.

Plenty of emoluments action, such as saudi's buying an entire floor in Trump Tower, for example.
Records have been released in this regard; evidence gathering is going forward.

 

[bripat9643]

As evident by this forum, we can argue about Trump's Russia collusion and his obstruction of justice allegations, etc. for still a while while through Muller prepares his final report.

However, a couple of issues are INDISPUTABLE:

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels, and
Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Now, the question arises when Trump is finally out of office and the "shield" of the oval office is no longer applicable. WILL or CAN TRUMP be charged for the above violations???

Just asking.....

Neither of those "facts" are "indisputable" at all.

Payoffs to hoes making accusations aren't valid or legal campaign expenses, so it would have been improper for those expenses to have come from the Trump Campaign. Trump did it right, by cutting a check from his personal account. And when Daniels pays it back, it go back to the Trumpster as well.

As far as "emoluments", there are none. The Trump Organization was able to find two very able young men to run the business while President Trump is conducting the nation's business. Besides, any "emoluments" would have to be banned by Congress, and the Congress hasn't even submitted legislation on the matter.

Plenty of emoluments action, such as saudi's buying an entire floor in Trump Tower, for example.
Records have been released in this regard; evidence gathering is going forward.

So it's against the law for Trump to sell condos that he built especially for that purpose?

Snowflakes are such brain-damaged morons that it's unbelievable.

 

[kyzr]

After Trump's new AG rips the left a new one they won't be on the forum getting uppity.

Republicans are all about corrupting government for personal gain aren't they.

Ever hear of the UraniumOne Deal, netting the Clinton Foundation $145,000,000?
How about a secret server in her bathroom and her destruction of subpoenaed evidence?
How about Bill Clinton getting $500,000 for a speech in Russia?
Please tell me again what evidence against Trump justifies the Special Counsel investigation into "collusion"?
Then we have the corrupt DOJ and FBI actually spying on the Trump campaign, names like McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Ohr, and Rosenstein using Clinton cash to pay for a Russian Steele Dossier. I hop Huber and the GOP finally gets somewhere, hopefully to a Grand Jury and indictments.

 

[Polishprince]

As evident by this forum, we can argue about Trump's Russia collusion and his obstruction of justice allegations, etc. for still a while while through Muller prepares his final report.

However, a couple of issues are INDISPUTABLE:

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels, and
Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Now, the question arises when Trump is finally out of office and the "shield" of the oval office is no longer applicable. WILL or CAN TRUMP be charged for the above violations???

Just asking.....

Neither of those "facts" are "indisputable" at all.

Payoffs to hoes making accusations aren't valid or legal campaign expenses, so it would have been improper for those expenses to have come from the Trump Campaign. Trump did it right, by cutting a check from his personal account. And when Daniels pays it back, it go back to the Trumpster as well.

As far as "emoluments", there are none. The Trump Organization was able to find two very able young men to run the business while President Trump is conducting the nation's business. Besides, any "emoluments" would have to be banned by Congress, and the Congress hasn't even submitted legislation on the matter.

Plenty of emoluments action, such as saudi's buying an entire floor in Trump Tower, for example.
Records have been released in this regard; evidence gathering is going forward.

The Saudis bought the floor at Trump Tower in 2001, long before Donald J Trump even thought of running. If he had refused the business because they were arabs, he would have been in violation of fair housing.

 

[Crepitus]

Trump has violated federal election laws through Cohen's payoff to Daniels,

Cohen violated federal election laws. Trump can pay off anyone he wants.

Trump has violated emolument laws in receiving something of value from foreign governments with his D.C. hotel scamming.

Why have they not pursued this if true? Seriously? What is the hold up?

.

Why do you think those laws don't apply to tRump, and it is the republican congress that is currently holding up the emollients violations investigation.

They apply to everyone in government, but Trump hasn't broken them, moron.

Sure, that's why the judge is letting the case move forward.

 

[Crepitus]

After Trump's new AG rips the left a new one they won't be on the forum getting uppity.

Republicans are all about corrupting government for personal gain aren't they.

Ever hear of the UraniumOne Deal, netting the Clinton Foundation $145,000,000?
How about a secret server in her bathroom and her destruction of subpoenaed evidence?
How about Bill Clinton getting $500,000 for a speech in Russia?
Please tell me again what evidence against Trump justifies the Special Counsel investigation into "collusion"?
Then we have the corrupt DOJ and FBI actually spying on the Trump campaign, names like McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Ohr, and Rosenstein using Clinton cash to pay for a Russian Steele Dossier. I hop Huber and the GOP finally gets somewhere, hopefully to a Grand Jury and indictments.

Your deflections have already been debunked, you need se new ones.

 

[BluesLegend]

After Trump's new AG rips the left a new one they won't be on the forum getting uppity.

Republicans are all about corrupting government for personal gain aren't they.

Your kind will be destroyed once and for all, flee to Mexico or communist China.

 

[BluesLegend]

After Trump's new AG rips the left a new one they won't be on the forum getting uppity.

Republicans are all about corrupting government for personal gain aren't they.

Ever hear of the UraniumOne Deal, netting the Clinton Foundation $145,000,000?
How about a secret server in her bathroom and her destruction of subpoenaed evidence?
How about Bill Clinton getting $500,000 for a speech in Russia?
Please tell me again what evidence against Trump justifies the Special Counsel investigation into "collusion"?
Then we have the corrupt DOJ and FBI actually spying on the Trump campaign, names like McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Ohr, and Rosenstein using Clinton cash to pay for a Russian Steele Dossier. I hop Huber and the GOP finally gets somewhere, hopefully to a Grand Jury and indictments.

The liberal projection is OFF THE CHARTS.

 

[Crepitus]

After Trump's new AG rips the left a new one they won't be on the forum getting uppity.

Republicans are all about corrupting government for personal gain aren't they.

Your kind will be destroyed once and for all, flee to Mexico or communist China.

What kind is that?