Let There Be Peace Already

[MJB12741]

Eh, Tinmore. How quicly you forget. Any comments?


1948 Arab

Problem is if the Paletinians didn't attack Israel in 1948, they would have had their own Palestinian State to deal with. No more just sucking off Israel for their well being.

How fucking stupid can you be, asshole?

If the arabs had not attacked in '48 after israel declared itself and independent state, they would not have lost an inch.

The Palestinians did not attack Israel in 1948.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Eh, Tinmore. How quicly you forget. Any comments?


1948 Arab

Problem is if the Paletinians didn't attack Israel in 1948, they would have had their own Palestinian State to deal with. No more just sucking off Israel for their well being.

The Palestinians did not attack Israel in 1948.

All of those Arab forces entered Palestine.

 

[rhodescholar]

So basically you're saying that when Israel declared its borders in 1948, no one got screwed and all the arabs were smiling and high fiving the new Israelis?

The jews got a nation, and the arabs did - but the arabs have to have everything, which is why minorities are so badly treated across the middle east. The arabs chose war over being satisfied with getting part of the land, or over diplomacy if they were dissatisfied.

Interesting how you sidestep how it was the arabs who chose war to address the situation, rather than diplomacy/negotiations. But as stated before, only arabs can use violence to resolve political grievances, everyone else has to use multi-lateralism/diplomacy.

We rarely hear about assyrians, chaldeans, copts, maronites, kurds, etc., because they did not choose to fight back against the tyranny of the arab muslims - only the jews did. That's why, despite have huge numbers of minorities across the middle east, there is only one non-muslim nation: Israel.

When the arab muslims start respecting the rights of other, indigenous groups to have sovereignty, then there might be a chance for peace in the middle east. As long as the arabs demand control over all others, there never will be.

 

[MJB12741]

Oh I see. So the Palestinians protested what the Arab forces were doing rather than join them, right?

Eh, Tinmore. How quicly you forget. Any comments?


1948 Arab

The Palestinians did not attack Israel in 1948.

All of those Arab forces entered Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh I see. So the Palestinians protested what the Arab forces were doing rather than join them, right?

Eh, Tinmore. How quicly you forget. Any comments?


1948 Arab

All of those Arab forces entered Palestine.

All of those countries fought Israeli troops in Palestine. None of them entered Israel.

 

[MJB12741]

HUH??? You are the fellow who said Israel & Palestine is one & the same piece of land.

Oh I see. So the Palestinians protested what the Arab forces were doing rather than join them, right?

All of those Arab forces entered Palestine.

All of those countries fought Israeli troops in Palestine. None of them entered Israel.

 

[MJB12741]

There will be no peace here until Israel ends the occupation by finding an incentive to offer the Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands.

 

[Hossfly]

There will be no peace here until Israel ends the occupation by finding an incentive to offer the Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands.

Anyone for donating the price of a one-way ticket? Should be plenty of willing donors.

 

[docmauser1]

So basically you're saying that when Israel declared its borders in 1948, no one got screwed and all the arabs were smiling and high fiving the new Israelis?

Leaving the border issue aside for now, we, indeed, may say that arabs were nursing their sore asses. Unenviable occupation much, after all those wild-eyed expectations-anticipations of murdering jews and plundering jewish property, isn't it?

 

[docmauser1]

The Palestinians did not attack Israel in 1948.

Indeed, they didn't exist back then.

 

[docmauser1]

All of those countries fought Israeli troops in Palestine. None of them entered Israel.

Great! Let palistanians demand all their so-called grievances be met by those arabs! Isn't that fair?!

 

[docmauser1]

Anyone for donating the price of a one-way ticket? Should be plenty of willing donors.

Indeedy, sir. The problem solved!

 

[MJB12741]

Muslim Paletinians were NEVER indigenous to the land of Israel/Palestine. But the Jews were. Holy mackeral, is it actually possible the Muslim Palestinians are stealing Israel's land?

The Palestinians did not attack Israel in 1948.

Indeed, they didn't exist back then.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Muslim Paletinians were NEVER indigenous to the land of Israel/Palestine. But the Jews were. Holy mackeral, is it actually possible the Muslim Palestinians are stealing Israel's land?

The Palestinians did not attack Israel in 1948.

Indeed, they didn't exist back then.

No they weren't. The Jews were immigrants from Egypt.

 

[MJB12741]

Which came first. Solomon's Temple or the Al Asqa Mosque?

Muslim Paletinians were NEVER indigenous to the land of Israel/Palestine. But the Jews were. Holy mackeral, is it actually possible the Muslim Palestinians are stealing Israel's land?

Indeed, they didn't exist back then.

No they weren't. The Jews were immigrants from Egypt.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Which came first. Solomon's Temple or the Al Asqa Mosque?

Muslim Paletinians were NEVER indigenous to the land of Israel/Palestine. But the Jews were. Holy mackeral, is it actually possible the Muslim Palestinians are stealing Israel's land?

No they weren't. The Jews were immigrants from Egypt.

It doesn't matter. The Jews were not the first people in Palestine nor were they ever the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

 

[MJB12741]

There IS an historic precendent for a Jewish State. This was granted both morally & legally by a vote of world UN member nations, whereas all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force.

Which came first. Solomon's Temple or the Al Asqa Mosque?

No they weren't. The Jews were immigrants from Egypt.

It doesn't matter. The Jews were not the first people in Palestine nor were they ever the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

 

[P F Tinmore]

There IS an historic precendent for a Jewish State. This was granted both morally & legally by a vote of world UN member nations, whereas all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force.

Which came first. Solomon's Temple or the Al Asqa Mosque?

It doesn't matter. The Jews were not the first people in Palestine nor were they ever the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

Not true. The UN had nothing to do with the creation of Israel.

 

[MJB12741]

I like you Tinmore for being willing to discuss the issues in a civilized manner, even when you jest like now.

There IS an historic precendent for a Jewish State. This was granted both morally & legally by a vote of world UN member nations, whereas all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force.

It doesn't matter. The Jews were not the first people in Palestine nor were they ever the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

Not true. The UN had nothing to do with the creation of Israel.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I like you Tinmore for being willing to discuss the issues in a civilized manner, even when you jest like now.

There IS an historic precendent for a Jewish State. This was granted both morally & legally by a vote of world UN member nations, whereas all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force.

Not true. The UN had nothing to do with the creation of Israel.

OK, what did the UN have to do in the creation of Israel?