LGBTQ want to force their deviant culture on us

[deanrd]

here a lesbian teacher does it to the students!!
Lesbian elementary school teacher put on leave after showing students pictures of her wife | Daily Mail Online
I was at a hetero wedding and some lesbian gave a speech about lesbian rights for one of the mass readings--totally uncalled for

Current Swinger Clubs list

I would be more worried about all those horny Hetroes. Swing clubs in every state So many in the Bible Belt? What terrible examples these people are for children.

 

[rightwinger]

Why the rest of the country mocks the Bible Belt

Dear rightwinger
One thing backwards that's always been criticized about religious preachers
is if Christians aren't forgiving others as they want to be forgiven by God.

if God is supreme and in control of everything we are in life,
then what's the point of punishing people for making wrong judgments by free will.

Shouldn't we be in the business of correcting things
neighbor to neighbor hand in hand
in the spirit of Charity or Christianity
and Restorative Justice as the meaning of Christ Jesus saving us all
from death and destruction by our own words and hands?

I guess this makes as much sense as liberals
wanting free choice to be regulated by govt,
and wanting to deregulate drugs but regulate guns,
and wanting free speech under the First Amendment
to threaten the right to bear arms under the Second
when all these rights are included in the Bill of Rights
and NONE are supposed to be abused to disparage rights of anyone!

Anyone can point out the contradictions in each other.

the difference is do we forgive our faults
so we can correct them together?

Or do we expect to hide behind the blame game,
as a subterfuge and distraction from fixing
the very problems we complain about and blame on someone else?

Dear Emily

I am disgusted with intolerant Christians who persecute those who are different and do not hold the same beliefs they hold

Dear rightwinger
The only way I've seen and experienced that corrects this problem
is NOT to be the same way, but to be forgiving and inclusive to break out of this pattern,
where the Positive influence changes the dynamic. Forgiveness is the way out of the trap.

To go at them with the same Negative rejection and unforgiveness,
of course, does not correct the original problem but doubles it and makes it worse!

It's like pouring more gasoline on a fire.
The best way to snuff out the negativity is to offer corrections,
peer to peer, by including and not rejecting them out of fear,
then in the interactions, the reasons for rejection can be resolved.

This whole business of mutual hostility, blame and rejection
has never worked, to change EITHER side! So I wonder why
do people keep reacting this way. All I can think of, is they
aren't really ready to change. They just use their mutual hostility
as a "safe barrier" to keep their distance from each other. And
safely throw rocks back and forth while hiding behind a shared wall,
that is well fortified on both sides, where neither plans to take it down!

Dear Emily

These Christian haters are neither inclusive or forgiving. They spread hatred and hurt innocent people all in the name of Christ

Yes rightwinger
my point is it doesn't solve the problem but makes it worse
to respond by being unforgiving and exclusive as well!

Two wrongs don't make this situation right.

Someone in each case has to be the first to reach out
and break out of this pattern of mutual rejection blame and unforgiveness.

Otherwise they stay stuck, nothing changes.

P.S. liberals who preach inclusion are also blamed for excluding people of different views.
So it's mutual, both sides blame the other for being mutually exclusive!

Now rightwinger there's nothing wrong with have diametrically opposite views
and staying away from each other to keep the peace.

The problem is when either group or both takes their beliefs and biases
and imposes THAT through govt. that's where it becomes a public issue.

If we can agree to keep our private beliefs out of govt, then both can
separate and have their own ways.

What has gotten out of hand is either side is pushing to include or remove
beliefs from govt, when the other side is threatened by that. So that's why
it's so critical to keep BOTH out of govt, keep govt neutral and let people do things their way on their own.
We need to get back to this where we kept our different beliefs frm imposing on others through public poicies.

Dear Emily

Ignoring hatred and discrimination does nothing to solve the problem. If I am causing you harm, we should not both be treated the same


Guess what?
Homosexuals have earned the right to marry. Time for the Christian haters to get over it
Same sex couples get to say they are same sex couples .......they should not be fired for it

 

[emilynghiem]

Dear rightwinger
One thing backwards that's always been criticized about religious preachers
is if Christians aren't forgiving others as they want to be forgiven by God.

if God is supreme and in control of everything we are in life,
then what's the point of punishing people for making wrong judgments by free will.

Shouldn't we be in the business of correcting things
neighbor to neighbor hand in hand
in the spirit of Charity or Christianity
and Restorative Justice as the meaning of Christ Jesus saving us all
from death and destruction by our own words and hands?

I guess this makes as much sense as liberals
wanting free choice to be regulated by govt,
and wanting to deregulate drugs but regulate guns,
and wanting free speech under the First Amendment
to threaten the right to bear arms under the Second
when all these rights are included in the Bill of Rights
and NONE are supposed to be abused to disparage rights of anyone!

Anyone can point out the contradictions in each other.

the difference is do we forgive our faults
so we can correct them together?

Or do we expect to hide behind the blame game,
as a subterfuge and distraction from fixing
the very problems we complain about and blame on someone else?

Dear Emily

I am disgusted with intolerant Christians who persecute those who are different and do not hold the same beliefs they hold

Dear rightwinger
The only way I've seen and experienced that corrects this problem
is NOT to be the same way, but to be forgiving and inclusive to break out of this pattern,
where the Positive influence changes the dynamic. Forgiveness is the way out of the trap.

To go at them with the same Negative rejection and unforgiveness,
of course, does not correct the original problem but doubles it and makes it worse!

It's like pouring more gasoline on a fire.
The best way to snuff out the negativity is to offer corrections,
peer to peer, by including and not rejecting them out of fear,
then in the interactions, the reasons for rejection can be resolved.

This whole business of mutual hostility, blame and rejection
has never worked, to change EITHER side! So I wonder why
do people keep reacting this way. All I can think of, is they
aren't really ready to change. They just use their mutual hostility
as a "safe barrier" to keep their distance from each other. And
safely throw rocks back and forth while hiding behind a shared wall,
that is well fortified on both sides, where neither plans to take it down!

Dear Emily

These Christian haters are neither inclusive or forgiving. They spread hatred and hurt innocent people all in the name of Christ

Yes rightwinger
my point is it doesn't solve the problem but makes it worse
to respond by being unforgiving and exclusive as well!

Two wrongs don't make this situation right.

Someone in each case has to be the first to reach out
and break out of this pattern of mutual rejection blame and unforgiveness.

Otherwise they stay stuck, nothing changes.

P.S. liberals who preach inclusion are also blamed for excluding people of different views.
So it's mutual, both sides blame the other for being mutually exclusive!

Now rightwinger there's nothing wrong with have diametrically opposite views
and staying away from each other to keep the peace.

The problem is when either group or both takes their beliefs and biases
and imposes THAT through govt. that's where it becomes a public issue.

If we can agree to keep our private beliefs out of govt, then both can
separate and have their own ways.

What has gotten out of hand is either side is pushing to include or remove
beliefs from govt, when the other side is threatened by that. So that's why
it's so critical to keep BOTH out of govt, keep govt neutral and let people do things their way on their own.
We need to get back to this where we kept our different beliefs frm imposing on others through public poicies.

Dear Emily

Ignoring hatred and discrimination does nothing to solve the problem. If I am causing you harm, we should not both be treated the same


Guess what?
Homosexuals have earned the right to marry. Time for the Christian haters to get over it
Same sex couples get to say they are same sex couples .......they should not be fired for it

Dear rightwinger
I didn't say to ignore or enable the problem.
The first step is to separate what is private personal choice to not believe or support something.
And what is public policy.

Now with marrying whoever you want, that SHOULD remain private.
Anyone by religious freedom can do as they believe.
But this must be kept OUT of govt.

When you cross the line and mix marriage with govt
that becomes problematic. suddenly private social and personal
decisions that people don't agree on are forced into govt institutions where they don't belong.

Both sides agree that govt should NOT regulate their choices.

So both sides should agree to remove the institution of marriage from govt
and keep it private if they can't come to an agreement on terms of marriage and benefits.
Separate similar to Hindus and Muslims, Catholics and Protestants
having their own practices totally OUTSIDE govt.

then the problem is a lot of liberals believe in legislating and managing things through govt.
at this point, perhaps the liberal parties need to set up separate admin for social benefits
under policies they believe in, and not impose those terms and conditions on people of other beliefs and parties.

we can agree to separate taxes and stop imposing terms on each other that one side or the other protests
as biased for or against this belief or that one. Get it all out of govt hands, then you aren't forcing any policy on anyone.

 

[Moonglow]

Separate but equal yeah that worked well..Then we just get rid of that word liberty in the Constitution..

 

[rightwinger]

Dear Emily

I am disgusted with intolerant Christians who persecute those who are different and do not hold the same beliefs they hold

Dear rightwinger
The only way I've seen and experienced that corrects this problem
is NOT to be the same way, but to be forgiving and inclusive to break out of this pattern,
where the Positive influence changes the dynamic. Forgiveness is the way out of the trap.

To go at them with the same Negative rejection and unforgiveness,
of course, does not correct the original problem but doubles it and makes it worse!

It's like pouring more gasoline on a fire.
The best way to snuff out the negativity is to offer corrections,
peer to peer, by including and not rejecting them out of fear,
then in the interactions, the reasons for rejection can be resolved.

This whole business of mutual hostility, blame and rejection
has never worked, to change EITHER side! So I wonder why
do people keep reacting this way. All I can think of, is they
aren't really ready to change. They just use their mutual hostility
as a "safe barrier" to keep their distance from each other. And
safely throw rocks back and forth while hiding behind a shared wall,
that is well fortified on both sides, where neither plans to take it down!

Dear Emily

These Christian haters are neither inclusive or forgiving. They spread hatred and hurt innocent people all in the name of Christ

Yes rightwinger
my point is it doesn't solve the problem but makes it worse
to respond by being unforgiving and exclusive as well!

Two wrongs don't make this situation right.

Someone in each case has to be the first to reach out
and break out of this pattern of mutual rejection blame and unforgiveness.

Otherwise they stay stuck, nothing changes.

P.S. liberals who preach inclusion are also blamed for excluding people of different views.
So it's mutual, both sides blame the other for being mutually exclusive!

Now rightwinger there's nothing wrong with have diametrically opposite views
and staying away from each other to keep the peace.

The problem is when either group or both takes their beliefs and biases
and imposes THAT through govt. that's where it becomes a public issue.

If we can agree to keep our private beliefs out of govt, then both can
separate and have their own ways.

What has gotten out of hand is either side is pushing to include or remove
beliefs from govt, when the other side is threatened by that. So that's why
it's so critical to keep BOTH out of govt, keep govt neutral and let people do things their way on their own.
We need to get back to this where we kept our different beliefs frm imposing on others through public poicies.

Dear Emily

Ignoring hatred and discrimination does nothing to solve the problem. If I am causing you harm, we should not both be treated the same


Guess what?
Homosexuals have earned the right to marry. Time for the Christian haters to get over it
Same sex couples get to say they are same sex couples .......they should not be fired for it

Dear rightwinger
I didn't say to ignore or enable the problem.
The first step is to separate what is private personal choice to not believe or support something.
And what is public policy.

Now with marrying whoever you want, that SHOULD remain private.
Anyone by religious freedom can do as they believe.
But this must be kept OUT of govt.

When you cross the line and mix marriage with govt
that becomes problematic. suddenly private social and personal
decisions that people don't agree on are forced into govt institutions where they don't belong.

Both sides agree that govt should NOT regulate their choices.

So both sides should agree to remove the institution of marriage from govt
and keep it private if they can't come to an agreement on terms of marriage and benefits.
Separate similar to Hindus and Muslims, Catholics and Protestants
having their own practices totally OUTSIDE govt.

then the problem is a lot of liberals believe in legislating and managing things through govt.
at this point, perhaps the liberal parties need to set up separate admin for social benefits
under policies they believe in, and not impose those terms and conditions on people of other beliefs and parties.

we can agree to separate taxes and stop imposing terms on each other that one side or the other protests
as biased for or against this belief or that one. Get it all out of govt hands, then you aren't forcing any policy on anyone.

Dear, dear Emily

Government has always been part of marriage. Marriage is a legal contract. You need government to enforce the contract.

Emily, though I may not approve of who you choose to marry. It is none of my business. In this case, Christian haters are trying to force the local government to fire someone for admitting to a same sex marriage

 

[WEATHER53]

Family determines who tells an 8 year old what mommy and daddy are and not an advocate for alternative life style

 

[rightwinger]

Family determines who tells an 8 year old what mommy and daddy are and not an advocate for alternative life style

Same sex couples are a fact. They are legal and a teacher is under no obligation to hide who their spouse is

If parents want to mislead their children that is their problem

 

[Lysistrata]

There needs to be more specific information as to exactly what misconduct Bailey is accused of committing. Judging from the picture, she was showing the kids slides from a trip that she and her wife took that appears to have been to Venice, Italy, a city well known for its architecture and history of art. I seriously doubt that her presentation had any X-rated content. Much more has to be shown to demonstrate that she did anything improper in the classroom. Otherwise, she deserves to have her suspension lifted, to be paid full back pay, and to receive a public apology from the school board. The parent who complained should apologize to her as well, but I doubt that this will happen.

 

[Bonzi]

So let's think about this for a minute.....

Who is trying to force their agenda more on society, Christians or Gays?

What is the "proof" for your answer?

 

[Bonzi]

Another question, what is the percentage of the population that is gay, and, does it matter?

 

[rightwinger]

So let's think about this for a minute.....

Who is trying to force their agenda more on society, Christians or Gays?

What is the "proof" for your answer?

I don’t see Gays attacking the validity of Christian marriages

 

[rightwinger]

Another question, what is the percentage of the population that is gay, and, does it matter?

Bout 2 to 3 percent

Why does it matter?

 

[Bonzi]

So let's think about this for a minute.....

Who is trying to force their agenda more on society, Christians or Gays?

What is the "proof" for your answer?

I don’t see Gays attacking the validity of Christian marriages

Because being Gay is not a religion or world view.
So you are saying there is freedom of religion, but, keep it to yourself?

 

[Bonzi]

Another question, what is the percentage of the population that is gay, and, does it matter?

Bout 2 to 3 percent

Why does it matter?

Dunno, if percentages don't matter why do we vote?

 

[Faun]

So let's think about this for a minute.....

Who is trying to force their agenda more on society, Christians or Gays?

What is the "proof" for your answer?

Christians, by far. Can’t escape the reverence to their god for the month of December. They shut down most of the country to celebrate his birthday which is not even his actual birthday.

 

[rightwinger]

So let's think about this for a minute.....

Who is trying to force their agenda more on society, Christians or Gays?

What is the "proof" for your answer?

I don’t see Gays attacking the validity of Christian marriages

Because being Gay is not a religion or world view.
So you are saying there is freedom of religion, but, keep it to yourself?

You are free to hate anyone you wish

You just can’t force government to enforce your hate. Christians for centuries have forced Government to accept their religious doctrine

 

[Bonzi]

So let's think about this for a minute.....

Who is trying to force their agenda more on society, Christians or Gays?

What is the "proof" for your answer?

Christians, by far. Can’t escape the reverence to their god for the month of December. They shut down most of the country to celebrate his birthday which is not even his actual birthday.

Sound more like bitterness and anger than facts.
Let me ask you this, which get's more media coverage... and why?

 

[rightwinger]

Another question, what is the percentage of the population that is gay, and, does it matter?

Bout 2 to 3 percent

Why does it matter?

Dunno, if percentages don't matter why do we vote?

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for supper

Someone has to look out for the rights of sheep

 

[Bonzi]

So let's think about this for a minute.....

Who is trying to force their agenda more on society, Christians or Gays?

What is the "proof" for your answer?

I don’t see Gays attacking the validity of Christian marriages

Because being Gay is not a religion or world view.
So you are saying there is freedom of religion, but, keep it to yourself?

You are free to hate anyone you wish

You just can’t force government to enforce your hate. Christians for centuries have forced Government to accept their religious doctrine

Example?
Do you think it's equally right to "force" people to condone a lifestyle their religion teaches them is wrong?
Why?

 

[Bonzi]

Another question, what is the percentage of the population that is gay, and, does it matter?

Bout 2 to 3 percent

Why does it matter?

Dunno, if percentages don't matter why do we vote?

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for supper

Someone has to look out for the rights of sheep

So you think gays are suffering in this country. How so? Are there any other segments of the 1-2% population that you think are being treated unfairly?