Liberals On Abortion

[JoeB131]

Refined would be not accusing dead founders of things they likely did not do in order to achieve the goal of smarming this nation into the acceptance of socialism/communism.

Um, there's no doubt that Jefferson, Washington and a lot of the other founders owned slaves. So what am I accusing them of falsely again?

 

[JoeB131]

Not reproduction but the "right" to murder. What Roe v Wade did was remove societal protection from those whose voices are too small to be heard, leaving it up to the adults in the room to speak for them.

Actually, what Roe did was get rid of unworkable laws that no one was obeying at that point.

And we wouldn't have an issue if the Evangelical assholes didn't make an issue of it after Segregation stopped putting asses into pews.

 

[JoeB131]

Only a drama-queen thinks defending unborn babies is the beginning of a fascist state.

Really?

Hey, guess which country was the only one that executed abortion providers?

Yup. Nazi Germany.

 

[JoeB131]

WTF do food stamps have to do with the slaughter and flushing of 2,500 babies /day? I tell ya, there is no mindless leftarded argument too stupid for you to spew but they keep pumping them out and you keep spewing.

If you want to create 2500 extra poor babies a day, you'd better be ready to feed them.

 

[JoeB131]

Murderers are still executed you lying pos.

We have 16,000 homicides a year and only execute 20 people a year.

Somehow, I don't think you are going to get very far trying to execute abortion providers, even if you could get a conviction...

 

[JoeB131]

Then why did you Liberals/Democrats elect one as President????

Ken Starr spent 70 million trying to prove that and only proved he got a blow job.

 

[gipper]

You better hope you’re right, because you likely are headed straight to Hell otherwise. I will pray for your poor deluded soul.

again, if the universe is so badly designed that the God of the Bible (A real prick who drowned every baby in the world, and then killed the baby of his Favorite king to teach him a lesson), I really don't mind NOT spending eternity with him.

Not that the bible says jack about abortion one way or the other, so I'm probably good.

The arrogance of the fool who thinks he knows the mind of the Almighty, is amazing to behold.

I suspect He will show pity on you, due to your absolute unlimited ignorance

 

[mudwhistle]

I mean real Liberals, those with integrity and a reputable view of the world, not the mind numbed variety that adhere to the Democrats no matter how insane their current agenda is.




1.Perhaps you’ve noticed that today the strongest Liberals/Democrats are those with the least ability to analyze what they are supporting. As a result, just as Orwell predicted in 1984, they can’t keep straight whether they are at war with Eastasia, or Eurasia. They need not keep track, they simply agree that the enemy at the moment is whoever the leadership says it is.
And today it is the unborn.

Hence, the Liberals were against gay marriage before they were for it. They opposed socialism before they were for it. And they opposed nuclear weapons for Iran before they were in favor of it.
So, no big deal to want to exterminate the defenseless.....

They are clueless to 180° turns by the party. Morons simply march lock-step via the party’s orders.





I came across an interesting real-Liberal essay opposing abortion, and it is instructive to peruse.


2.“Abortion: The Left has betrayed the sanctity of life From The Progressive magazine. Abortion: The Left has betrayed the sanctity of life
Consistency demands concern for the unborn

The abortion issue, more than most, illustrates the occasional tendency of the Left to become so enthusiastic over what is called a "reform" that it forgets to think the issue through. It is ironic that so many on the Left have done on abortion what the conservatives and Cold War liberals did on Vietnam: They marched off in the wrong direction, to fight the wrong war, against the wrong people.

3. Some of us … are now active in the right-to-life movement. We do not enjoy opposing our old friends on the abortion issue, but we feel that we have no choice. We are moved by what pro-life feminists call the "consistency thing" -- the belief that respect for human life demands opposition to abortion, capital punishment, euthanasia, and war. We don't think we have either the luxury or the right to choose some types of killing and say that they are all right, while others are not. A human life is a human life; and if equality means anything, it means that society may not value some human lives over others.




4. Until the last decade, people on the Left and Right generally agreed on one rule: We all protected the young. This was not merely agreement on an ethical question: It was also an expression of instinct, so deep and ancient that it scarcely required explanation. Protection of the young included protection of the unborn, for abortion was forbidden by state laws throughout the United States. Those laws reflected an ethical consensus, not based solely on religious tradition but also on scientific evidence that human life begins at conception. The prohibition of abortion in the ancient Hippocratic Oath is well known.

5. …it is important to ask why the Left in the United States generally accepted legalized abortion. One factor was the popular civil libertarian rationale for freedom of choice in abortion. Many feminists presented it as a right of women to control their own bodies. When the objection was raised that abortion ruins another person's body, they respond that a) it is not a body, just a "blob of protoplasm" (thereby displaying ignorance of biology); or b) it is not really a "person" until it is born.

When it was suggested that this is a wholly arbitrary decision, unsupported by any biology evidence, they said, "Well, that's your point of view. This is a matter of individual conscience, and in a pluralistic society people must be free to follow their consciences."




Thinking Liberals, largely an oxymoron today, continue embracing rectitude over party loyalty.

Liberals support killing the helpless and are big on saving murderers at all costs.
It's as if they love chaos and anarchy.

 

[mudwhistle]

Then why did you Liberals/Democrats elect one as President????

Ken Starr spent 70 million trying to prove that and only proved he got a blow job.

Nope....he prove Bill Clinton lied in front of a Grand Jury.
He was found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice.

 

[JoeB131]

The arrogance of the fool who thinks he knows the mind of the Almighty, is amazing to behold.

I suspect He will show pity on you, due to your absolute unlimited ignorance

No, what will happen is I will die and cease to exist, just like everyone else does... but if you need to believe in an imaginary sky fairy to quell your mortal terrrors, have at it.

Nope....he prove Bill Clinton lied in front of a Grand Jury.
He was found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice.

You are a little confused... The Senate Acquitted him of perjury and obstruction of justice. Then he plead guilty to making false statements and paid a petty fine.

 

[mudwhistle]

The arrogance of the fool who thinks he knows the mind of the Almighty, is amazing to behold.

I suspect He will show pity on you, due to your absolute unlimited ignorance

No, what will happen is I will die and cease to exist, just like everyone else does... but if you need to believe in an imaginary sky fairy to quell your mortal terrrors, have at it.

Nope....he prove Bill Clinton lied in front of a Grand Jury.
He was found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice.

You are a little confused... The Senate Acquitted him of perjury and obstruction of justice. Then he plead guilty to making false statements and paid a petty fine.

The Senate voted not to kick him out of office despite being convicted in the House.
He plea bargained his court conviction down to a fine and loss of his law license for a period of time.
He was found guilty as sin on all counts.
They went easy on him....because he's a Democrat President. Not because he wasn't guilty.

 

[JoeB131]

The Senate voted not to kick him out of office despite being convicted in the House.

NO, they voted "not guilty". those were the only two options, and you guys couldn't even get all the republicans to vote guilty.

What a waste of time.

He plea bargained his court conviction down to a fine and loss of his law license for a period of time.

You mean he gave up a law license he hadn't used in 20 years for five years. DId you really think he was going to put up a shingle and do real estate closings?

Come on, get real. He didn't feel like litigating the issue on the civilian side for 10 years and neither did Charles Ray, the guy who had to clean up Kenny the Perverts mess when he went off to Baylor to cover up REAL Rapes by athletes.

 

[gipper]

The arrogance of the fool who thinks he knows the mind of the Almighty, is amazing to behold.

I suspect He will show pity on you, due to your absolute unlimited ignorance

No, what will happen is I will die and cease to exist, just like everyone else does... but if you need to believe in an imaginary sky fairy to quell your mortal terrrors, have at it.

Nope....he prove Bill Clinton lied in front of a Grand Jury.
He was found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice.

You are a little confused... The Senate Acquitted him of perjury and obstruction of justice. Then he plead guilty to making false statements and paid a petty fine.

Yeah the universe with all it’s amazing complexity, of which we humans know so little, just magically happened. To believe that, is to believe in fairytales.

 

[mudwhistle]

The Senate voted not to kick him out of office despite being convicted in the House.

NO, they voted "not guilty". those were the only two options, and you guys couldn't even get all the republicans to vote guilty.

What a waste of time.

He plea bargained his court conviction down to a fine and loss of his law license for a period of time.

You mean he gave up a law license he hadn't used in 20 years for five years. DId you really think he was going to put up a shingle and do real estate closings?

Come on, get real. He didn't feel like litigating the issue on the civilian side for 10 years and neither did Charles Ray, the guy who had to clean up Kenny the Perverts mess when he went off to Baylor to cover up REAL Rapes by athletes.

you simply rephrased exactly what I said.
pathetic.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah the universe with all it’s amazing complexity, of which we humans know so little, just magically happened. To believe that, is to believe in fairytales.

Well, it happens due to scientific processes.

Just because you don't understand science, doesn't make it less true..

Unlike Dieties, who cease to exist when people stop believing in them.

Just ask Odin and Zeus.

 

[JoeB131]

you simply rephrased exactly what I said.
pathetic.

You mean I rephrased it ACCURATELY?

Accuracy is kind of important..

 

[gipper]

Yeah the universe with all it’s amazing complexity, of which we humans know so little, just magically happened. To believe that, is to believe in fairytales.

Well, it happens due to scientific processes.

Just because you don't understand science, doesn't make it less true..

Unlike Dieties, who cease to exist when people stop believing in them.

Just ask Odin and Zeus.

So you really do believe in fairytales.

 

[mudwhistle]

you simply rephrased exactly what I said.
pathetic.

You mean I rephrased it ACCURATELY?

Accuracy is kind of important..

You attempted to minimize it.
Bill Clinton was guilty of perjury and obstruction.....and he worked out deals to escape serious punishment for his crimes.
And he is guilty of numerous other crimes....he and his wife....and they are still escaping from any punishment.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Then why did you Liberals/Democrats elect one as President????

Ken Starr spent 70 million trying to prove that and only proved he got a blow job.

That's yet another lie.


If you received a nickel for every true post you authored, you'd still be looking for a nickel.

The arrogance of the fool who thinks he knows the mind of the Almighty, is amazing to behold.

I suspect He will show pity on you, due to your absolute unlimited ignorance

No, what will happen is I will die and cease to exist, just like everyone else does... but if you need to believe in an imaginary sky fairy to quell your mortal terrrors, have at it.

Nope....he prove Bill Clinton lied in front of a Grand Jury.
He was found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice.

You are a little confused... The Senate Acquitted him of perjury and obstruction of justice. Then he plead guilty to making false statements and paid a petty fine.

"No, what will happen is I will die and cease to exist, just like everyone else does.."


I would be honored to help carry your coffin. Um...Is tomorrow okay for you?

 

[Carl in Michigan]