Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Yeah...he was so delicate he caused the deaths of 750k Americans and destruction of half the nation, leading to decades of resentment, suffering, and racism...and what may be the most detrimental result of the war, the growth of the all powerful state.This thread really isn't about Lincoln's war time service. I have to admit Lincoln wasn't really all that great about choosing generals. MacCllelan, Hooker, Burnside, Hallock, Fremont. Grant, Sherman, Thomas rose in the west where he wouldn't know about them.
I notice the hate Lincoln crowd have nothing to say about the cow colleges, the national banking act, the homestead act, the railroad act. They admit he was great there, and move on to suppressing treason in ways not delicate. It wasn't a delicate time, & I believe Lincoln was a lot more delicate than the situation called for.
I can't imagine a more powerful state than one that sanctions people to be bought and sold like hogs or cattle.
No, it was not, anymore than a portion of the population today can 'secede'.And they chose to secede, which was their right.Lincoln could have quarantined the seceding States without calling for an invasion. In that event Virginia would never have joined the Confederacy, which would have ultimately collapsed. In the mean time Congress would have been able to restrict the expansion of slavery, which would have died out within 20 years.
Was it worth 600,000 lives to move up this time line?
The time line was not an issue at all.
The problem, like Emily and others on the far right today, was the unwillingness to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Explain?
The South lost the election of 1860 and refused to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
I can't imagine a more powerful state than one that sanctions people to be bought and sold like hogs or cattle.
The state had little to do with slavery...
And they chose to secede, which was their right.Lincoln could have quarantined the seceding States without calling for an invasion. In that event Virginia would never have joined the Confederacy, which would have ultimately collapsed. In the mean time Congress would have been able to restrict the expansion of slavery, which would have died out within 20 years.
Was it worth 600,000 lives to move up this time line?
The time line was not an issue at all.
The problem, like Emily and others on the far right today, was the unwillingness to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Explain?
The South lost the election of 1860 and refused to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
No, it was not, anymore than a portion of the population today can 'secede'.And they chose to secede, which was their right.Lincoln could have quarantined the seceding States without calling for an invasion. In that event Virginia would never have joined the Confederacy, which would have ultimately collapsed. In the mean time Congress would have been able to restrict the expansion of slavery, which would have died out within 20 years.
Was it worth 600,000 lives to move up this time line?
The time line was not an issue at all.
The problem, like Emily and others on the far right today, was the unwillingness to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Explain?
The South lost the election of 1860 and refused to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
And no, Lincoln didn't propose the Corwin Amendment. For chrissakes, your facts are so fucked up, gimpy.
The seceding states offered to pay for all federal facilities on their land and their share of the national debt. Lincoln told them to fuck off.And they chose to secede, which was their right.Lincoln could have quarantined the seceding States without calling for an invasion. In that event Virginia would never have joined the Confederacy, which would have ultimately collapsed. In the mean time Congress would have been able to restrict the expansion of slavery, which would have died out within 20 years.
Was it worth 600,000 lives to move up this time line?
The time line was not an issue at all.
The problem, like Emily and others on the far right today, was the unwillingness to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Explain?
The South lost the election of 1860 and refused to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Correct. However, they had no right to fire upon or seize federal property. Instead of invading the South, Lincoln could have demanded reparations and used a naval blockade to enforce it.
Satists just can't accept the truth.No, it was not, anymore than a portion of the population today can 'secede'.And they chose to secede, which was their right.Lincoln could have quarantined the seceding States without calling for an invasion. In that event Virginia would never have joined the Confederacy, which would have ultimately collapsed. In the mean time Congress would have been able to restrict the expansion of slavery, which would have died out within 20 years.
Was it worth 600,000 lives to move up this time line?
The time line was not an issue at all.
The problem, like Emily and others on the far right today, was the unwillingness to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Explain?
The South lost the election of 1860 and refused to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
And they chose to secede, which was their right.Lincoln could have quarantined the seceding States without calling for an invasion. In that event Virginia would never have joined the Confederacy, which would have ultimately collapsed. In the mean time Congress would have been able to restrict the expansion of slavery, which would have died out within 20 years.
Was it worth 600,000 lives to move up this time line?
The time line was not an issue at all.
The problem, like Emily and others on the far right today, was the unwillingness to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Explain?
The South lost the election of 1860 and refused to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Correct. However, they had no right to fire upon or seize federal property. Instead of invading the South, Lincoln could have demanded reparations and used a naval blockade to enforce it.
Wrong...all states are perpetual right?...just as dishonest Abe claimed...And they chose to secede, which was their right.The time line was not an issue at all.
The problem, like Emily and others on the far right today, was the unwillingness to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Explain?
The South lost the election of 1860 and refused to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Correct. However, they had no right to fire upon or seize federal property. Instead of invading the South, Lincoln could have demanded reparations and used a naval blockade to enforce it.
They had no right to secede. They had no right to fire on the federal troops. They had the right to submit to federal law, and when they did not, they signed the death warrant of the Union.
Wrong...all states are perpetual right?...just as dishonest Abe claimed...And they chose to secede, which was their right.Explain?
The South lost the election of 1860 and refused to submit to constitutional, electoral process.
Correct. However, they had no right to fire upon or seize federal property. Instead of invading the South, Lincoln could have demanded reparations and used a naval blockade to enforce it.
They had no right to secede. They had no right to fire on the federal troops. They had the right to submit to federal law, and when they did not, they signed the death warrant of the Union.
The republicans and Lincoln made huge strides, mostly because the democrats were off involved in treasonous activities,
They also created the transcontinental railways.
