Lindsey Graham steps up to the plate and threatens Donald Trump!

Should a President who is under investigation be able to fire the Special Prosecutor ?

  • yes

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • no

    Votes: 6 75.0%
  • Should a President be able to pardon someone they're associated with who is under investigation?

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • yes

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • no

    Votes: 4 50.0%

  • Total voters
    8
  • Poll closed .
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham today warned that there would be "holy hell to pay" if President Donald Trump fires Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

"This effort to basically marginalize and humiliate the attorney general is not going over well in the Senate," Graham told reporters today. "I don't think it's going over well in the conservative world ... If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay."

He added, "Any effort to go after [special counsel Robert] Mueller could be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency, unless Mueller did something wrong."

Graham, a Senate Judiciary Committee member from South Carolina, stressed that there would be no confirmation hearing for a new attorney general in 2017 and that Trump should respect Sessions as a person who "deserves better."

He echoed Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who subtly critiqued Trump on Twitter on Wednesday evening, saying the Judiciary Committee is focusing for the rest of the year on judicial and sub-Cabinet nominees and would not consider an attorney general nominee.

Graham reiterated his support for Mueller's Russia investigation, saying he has no reason to think Mueller is compromised. Graham warned that he will introduce a bill next week that would prevent the special counsel from being fired when "empaneled to investigate the president" unless there is judicial review of the firing.

"The idea that the president would fire Mueller or have somebody fire Mueller because he doesn't like Mueller or Mueller is doing something he doesn't like — then we have become Russia," Graham said. "So the red line should never be drawn ... No president can do that."

Graham added that the "president is not in the business of drawing red lines when it comes to the law"
Republican senator warns of 'holy hell to pay' if Trump fires Sessions

So this is the first time in this nation where we see Republican Senate members put a Republican President in the corner and threaten him. They're clearly sick & tired of him--and have had enough of his threats and insults. Now we have the new communications director--Saramuchi attacking White house advisers and staff for leaking information to the media. What we're watching is the implosion of the Trump administration right before our eyes.
Anthony Scaramucci tweets and deletes a cryptic message about leakers that also seemed to call out Reince Priebus

But this is a good question, so I'll add a poll.

1. Should a sitting President be able to fire a special prosecutor when it is the President or his associates that are under investigation?
2. Should a President be able to pardon someone who they are closely associated with & under investigation?

Sitting Presidents can and have fired special prosecutors before. There is now law forbidding it. There used to be a law for a short time but it expired in 1999.

Mueller is the only special prosecutor to be appointed without being given a specific crime to investigate.

President Trump can fire his own AG or this special prosecutor if he wants. All people in federal positions are subject to oversight and can be fired. If Trump hired them, he can fire them.
Wrong. When Mueller was hired Trump already committed obstruction of justice. The stupid putz even admitted it live on national TV. Imagine that!

LMAO, "obstruction of justice". Give us a link to the specific charge by the SP or the DOJ against President Trump. Care to also give any charges regarding Russia "collusion"? LOL.

The original spin was that Trump fired Comey over Rod Rosensein's (deputy attorney General) report blasting Comey for his breaking long standing protocol of releasing information within 60 days of an election. Basically the adminstration--and all his men were stating that Trump fired Comey because he was mean to Hillary Clinton. Of course, no one believed that one, and even Rod Roseinstein stated that he knew Trump was going to fire Comey long before he gave him his report.
Deputy AG briefs the full Senate after whirlwind week of controversy

Of course Comey then leaked his memo's and tesitified about an interview Trump had with Lestor Holt of NBC--where Trump is on video admitting he fired Comey over the Russian investigation. You can watch that interview at this link.
EXCLUSIVE: President Trump reveals he asked Comey whether he was under investigation

So Obstruction of Justice was added to the collusion investigation.
Wash. Post: Mueller investigating Trump for obstruction - CNNPolitics.com
http://nypost.com/2017/05/18/lindsey-graham-russia-probe-now-a-criminal-investigation/

Now you can bet White House advisers, and his lawyers have told him to not do interviews and stay off of his tweety account. He never listens to them.

There has never been a President in this nation's history that was so naive and frankly stupid enough to make enemies out of the 3 most powerful agencies in this country. The media, our intelligence agencies and the DOJ.

The more he calls the media FAKE, the more they will write & report. The more he insults our intelligence agencies, by claiming Russia is just a "ruse", the more he implicates himself into a coverup and the deeper they will dig :dig: The more he insults and threatens the DOJ with firings (Robert Mueller--Jeff Sessions) the more they will leak.

They're going to take him down.
James Clapper says Watergate scandal "pales" in comparison with Russian claims - CBS News
 
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Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham today warned that there would be "holy hell to pay" if President Donald Trump fires Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

"This effort to basically marginalize and humiliate the attorney general is not going over well in the Senate," Graham told reporters today. "I don't think it's going over well in the conservative world ... If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay."

He added, "Any effort to go after [special counsel Robert] Mueller could be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency, unless Mueller did something wrong."

Graham, a Senate Judiciary Committee member from South Carolina, stressed that there would be no confirmation hearing for a new attorney general in 2017 and that Trump should respect Sessions as a person who "deserves better."

He echoed Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who subtly critiqued Trump on Twitter on Wednesday evening, saying the Judiciary Committee is focusing for the rest of the year on judicial and sub-Cabinet nominees and would not consider an attorney general nominee.

Graham reiterated his support for Mueller's Russia investigation, saying he has no reason to think Mueller is compromised. Graham warned that he will introduce a bill next week that would prevent the special counsel from being fired when "empaneled to investigate the president" unless there is judicial review of the firing.

"The idea that the president would fire Mueller or have somebody fire Mueller because he doesn't like Mueller or Mueller is doing something he doesn't like — then we have become Russia," Graham said. "So the red line should never be drawn ... No president can do that."

Graham added that the "president is not in the business of drawing red lines when it comes to the law"
Republican senator warns of 'holy hell to pay' if Trump fires Sessions

So this is the first time in this nation where we see Republican Senate members put a Republican President in the corner and threaten him. They're clearly sick & tired of him--and have had enough of his threats and insults. Now we have the new communications director--Saramuchi attacking White house advisers and staff for leaking information to the media. What we're watching is the implosion of the Trump administration right before our eyes.
Anthony Scaramucci tweets and deletes a cryptic message about leakers that also seemed to call out Reince Priebus

But this is a good question, so I'll add a poll.

1. Should a sitting President be able to fire a special prosecutor when it is the President or his associates that are under investigation?
2. Should a President be able to pardon someone who they are closely associated with & under investigation?

Sitting Presidents can and have fired special prosecutors before. There is now law forbidding it. There used to be a law for a short time but it expired in 1999.

Mueller is the only special prosecutor to be appointed without being given a specific crime to investigate.

President Trump can fire his own AG or this special prosecutor if he wants. All people in federal positions are subject to oversight and can be fired. If Trump hired them, he can fire them.

Sure he can. I dare him.

I dare you to name the law firing a SP or AG violates.


If you had any reading comprehension skills you would note I didn't say that. Lindsey Graham is proposing a bi-partisan bill that would stop a President whom he or his team is under investigation from being able to fire a special prosecutor without "judicial review" first.

I think that is a GREAT idea--because none of us out here in the real world can fire a judge if we end up under investigation for anything.

Isn't the POTUS supposed to be under the same LAWS as we are? Or is that out too with Trump in office?


You said "I hope he fires Robert Mueller, it would move the impeachment process along a lot faster."

Nice walk back though, at least you admit he hasn't broken any laws.
 
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham today warned that there would be "holy hell to pay" if President Donald Trump fires Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

"This effort to basically marginalize and humiliate the attorney general is not going over well in the Senate," Graham told reporters today. "I don't think it's going over well in the conservative world ... If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay."

He added, "Any effort to go after [special counsel Robert] Mueller could be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency, unless Mueller did something wrong."

Graham, a Senate Judiciary Committee member from South Carolina, stressed that there would be no confirmation hearing for a new attorney general in 2017 and that Trump should respect Sessions as a person who "deserves better."

He echoed Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who subtly critiqued Trump on Twitter on Wednesday evening, saying the Judiciary Committee is focusing for the rest of the year on judicial and sub-Cabinet nominees and would not consider an attorney general nominee.

Graham reiterated his support for Mueller's Russia investigation, saying he has no reason to think Mueller is compromised. Graham warned that he will introduce a bill next week that would prevent the special counsel from being fired when "empaneled to investigate the president" unless there is judicial review of the firing.

"The idea that the president would fire Mueller or have somebody fire Mueller because he doesn't like Mueller or Mueller is doing something he doesn't like — then we have become Russia," Graham said. "So the red line should never be drawn ... No president can do that."

Graham added that the "president is not in the business of drawing red lines when it comes to the law"
Republican senator warns of 'holy hell to pay' if Trump fires Sessions

So this is the first time in this nation where we see Republican Senate members put a Republican President in the corner and threaten him. They're clearly sick & tired of him--and have had enough of his threats and insults. Now we have the new communications director--Saramuchi attacking White house advisers and staff for leaking information to the media. What we're watching is the implosion of the Trump administration right before our eyes.
Anthony Scaramucci tweets and deletes a cryptic message about leakers that also seemed to call out Reince Priebus

But this is a good question, so I'll add a poll.

1. Should a sitting President be able to fire a special prosecutor when it is the President or his associates that are under investigation?
2. Should a President be able to pardon someone who they are closely associated with & under investigation?

Sitting Presidents can and have fired special prosecutors before. There is now law forbidding it. There used to be a law for a short time but it expired in 1999.

Mueller is the only special prosecutor to be appointed without being given a specific crime to investigate.

President Trump can fire his own AG or this special prosecutor if he wants. All people in federal positions are subject to oversight and can be fired. If Trump hired them, he can fire them.
All you state is correct. And then we all saw what happened after the Saturday Night Massacre during the Nixon Admin. It would be worse for the treasonous fat senile old orange clown. He has already created doubt concerning his mental stability and loyalty to this nation.
 
Not sure if it was a threat or a warning. I almost want Trump to do it just to watch what plays out.


Me too--I hope he fires Robert Mueller, it would move the impeachment process along a lot faster.

In the most traumatic government upheaval of the Watergate crisis, President Nixon yesterday discharged Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox and accepted the resignations of Attorney General Elliot L. Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William D. Ruckelshaus. The President also abolished the office of the special prosecutor and turned over to the Justice Department the entire responsibility for further investigation and prosecution of suspects and defendants in Watergate and related cases.
WashingtonPost.com: Nixon Forces Firing of Cox; Richardson, Ruckelshaus Quit

In your dreams moron, no crime has been committed when it comes to the Russian fantasy-gate, unless you count the Obama administration that abused national security assets in order to spy on Trump and illegally outed Flynn.
And you are a fucking liar. They had surviellance on the Russians. The people in the Trump campaign contacted the Russians, therefore, we have transcripts of what they were proposing in those contacts. We do not know what kind of bargains they struck with the Russians in private talks. You contact the agents of an adversarial nation, you are under survelliance, automatically. And that damned well be the way it is if this nation is to survive.
 
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham today warned that there would be "holy hell to pay" if President Donald Trump fires Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

"This effort to basically marginalize and humiliate the attorney general is not going over well in the Senate," Graham told reporters today. "I don't think it's going over well in the conservative world ... If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay."

He added, "Any effort to go after [special counsel Robert] Mueller could be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency, unless Mueller did something wrong."

Graham, a Senate Judiciary Committee member from South Carolina, stressed that there would be no confirmation hearing for a new attorney general in 2017 and that Trump should respect Sessions as a person who "deserves better."

He echoed Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who subtly critiqued Trump on Twitter on Wednesday evening, saying the Judiciary Committee is focusing for the rest of the year on judicial and sub-Cabinet nominees and would not consider an attorney general nominee.

Graham reiterated his support for Mueller's Russia investigation, saying he has no reason to think Mueller is compromised. Graham warned that he will introduce a bill next week that would prevent the special counsel from being fired when "empaneled to investigate the president" unless there is judicial review of the firing.

"The idea that the president would fire Mueller or have somebody fire Mueller because he doesn't like Mueller or Mueller is doing something he doesn't like — then we have become Russia," Graham said. "So the red line should never be drawn ... No president can do that."

Graham added that the "president is not in the business of drawing red lines when it comes to the law"
Republican senator warns of 'holy hell to pay' if Trump fires Sessions

So this is the first time in this nation where we see Republican Senate members put a Republican President in the corner and threaten him. They're clearly sick & tired of him--and have had enough of his threats and insults. Now we have the new communications director--Saramuchi attacking White house advisers and staff for leaking information to the media. What we're watching is the implosion of the Trump administration right before our eyes.
Anthony Scaramucci tweets and deletes a cryptic message about leakers that also seemed to call out Reince Priebus

But this is a good question, so I'll add a poll.

1. Should a sitting President be able to fire a special prosecutor when it is the President or his associates that are under investigation?
2. Should a President be able to pardon someone who they are closely associated with & under investigation?

Sitting Presidents can and have fired special prosecutors before. There is now law forbidding it. There used to be a law for a short time but it expired in 1999.

Mueller is the only special prosecutor to be appointed without being given a specific crime to investigate.

President Trump can fire his own AG or this special prosecutor if he wants. All people in federal positions are subject to oversight and can be fired. If Trump hired them, he can fire them.

Sure he can. I dare him.

I dare you to name the law firing a SP or AG violates.


If you had any reading comprehension skills you would note I didn't say that. Lindsey Graham is proposing a bi-partisan bill that would stop a President whom he or his team is under investigation from being able to fire a special prosecutor without "judicial review" first.

I think that is a GREAT idea--because none of us out here in the real world can fire a judge if we end up under investigation for anything.

Isn't the POTUS supposed to be under the same LAWS as we are? Or is that out too with Trump in office?


You said "I hope he fires Robert Mueller, it would move the impeachment process along a lot faster."

Nice walk back though, at least you admit he hasn't broken any laws.

If you had the reading comprehension skills of a 3rd grader you would know that I never stated it was illegal for Trump to fire the Special prosecutor.

I think you right wingers are finally starting to realise all of the information that is left out of your 3 or more daily hours of reich wing hyperbole, stuffed full of half truths and enough conspiracy theories to fill the capital building from floor to ceiling, programs.

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Donald Trump broke the conservative media
The GOP That Failed

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Guess who was at the private dinner with Trump & Saramuchi? Sean Hannity. Which is why Saramuchi flipped out and demanded to know who told the reporter that. In my old age--we have never watched a right wing talk show host collude with a POTUS and become the policial adviser for SPIN--LOL We are now. Sean Spicer former White House Press Secretary was often caught "quoting" Sean Hannity.
Scaramucci: ‘If Reince wants to explain that he’s not a leaker, let him do that’
 
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