Liz Cheney throws her gay sister under the bus. Then drives the bus over her.

[rdean]

That is so NOT true......where has a Liberal ever discouraged children praying as offensive?

Do all rw'ers make things up?

Close to all. Worse, that picture is misleading since they only love the fetus. Kids they wouldn't mind seeing starve. We know they don't want them to have insurance.

Republicans push bill to cut food stamps /school lunches - Austin Economy

yea i know what you mean Dean....Brown did that out here....that heartless basterd....here is ONE of the links you ran from in those 3 other threads.....you can leave this one now..."Dottie" will stay and defend you.....

CA budget: big cuts to welfare, kids' health care - SFGate

Hello, Obamacare.

Oh, that's right. Republicans want to stop it.

 

[Yurt]

here is a refresher for the libs in this thread:

Throw under the bus

To throw (someone) under the bus is an idiomatic phrase in American English meaning to sacrifice another person (often a friend or ally), who is usually not deserving of such treatment, out of malice or for personal gain.

Throw under the bus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exactly. And Liz hopes to be Senator by attacking her sister. Who would vote for someone who sees their own sister as something "less"?

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Gay haters with gay sisters.

please stop lying. she never said one word about her sister. did obama attack her sister in 2008 by saying the same thing? we all know your intellectually dishonest answer would be no.

 

[Mertex]

You're confused. The angels were sent to destroy the city, but Lot took them in persuasively, knowing how horrible their fate would be. The angels put out the deviant's vision to save lot, and they stayed that way, because they couldn't find the door to Lot's House. Then the Angels turned around and led Lot out of the city telling him not to look back for any reason, that they had a job to do and were sent to see exactly how bad it was from deviants gone crazy with power.

Those deviants knew it wasn't right to treat strangers poorly, and they threatened Lot's life and family to do worse to them than they intended to do with the 'strangers.' whom they did not recognize because they were so bent on evil-doing.

Ancient people knew these were bad cities, and when their loved ones were harmed there, they prayed to God about it. That's how God knows who's naughty and who's nice.

I don't think God has to rely on the prayers of people to learn when a city is sinful/wicked.
He's Omniscient, which means He knows everything. That he decided to honor the people's prayers and send the Angels to destroy those cities doesn't mean he had first learned of it through their prayers.


They were sinful cities, that's true, but nothing was mentioned about homosexuality. That the evil men wanted to do that was because they were being inhospitable with Lot's guests. There was no mention that the city was gay - just wicked and sinful, and there's lots of things that are wicked and sinful that have nothing to do with homosexuality. Gang rape is a demonstration of power, not sex. I thought everyone knew that.

Why did God destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, plus two others, Admah and Zeboyim, which were nearby? Christians who take the Bible absolutely literally will tell you that God did this because the inhabitants of these cities were all gay, or at least most of them. I am humming again my favorite tune 'It ain't necessarily so ...'

First of all, when God informs Abraham of his decision to destroy these cities, he only mentions 'wickedness' and 'great sin' plus he speaks of an outcry of the people living in the area complaining about them to God. Nowhere in the whole narrative is explicitly stated what the exact sin of Sodom was.

The only sin we can deduce from the text itself, is the sin against hospitality to strangers when the men of Sodom demand his guests from Lot so that they may 'know them' aka have sex with them. To understand the gravity of that, you need to have traveled or lived in the Middle East, or in any other part of the world where hospitality towards others is a law-like custom. This was even stronger in the past, when hospitality in those parts of the world was seen as a sacred duty and the host would have done everything, yes, including sacrificing his own daughters!, in order to fulfill his obligation towards his guests. Therefore

The sin of Sodom was NOT homosexuality, it was the breach of hospitality attempted by the inhabitants of Sodom towards Lot's guests!

Gang-Rape, like any other form of rape, has actually little to do with sexuality, as any psychologist can confirm you, but has all to do with violence, power over others and ultimately humiliating the rape victim. And, in the case of male to male rape, about establishing power over another man and emasculating him.
Sodom and Gomorrah- What does the Bible say about homosexuality?

People take their troubles to him in prayer. His answer was to test them first, and if they treated his emissaries badly enough, he'd carry through with eliminating it.

It was a story written for the enlightenment of future generations about planning a life around unacceptable deviant sex. It's against wisdom and should not be even a temptation to anyone. Accepting the behavior is the same as bringing it down on the rest of society.

There is nothing in the scripture to suggest that it was "enlightenment of future generations about planning a life around unacceptable deviant sex. Wouldn't Lot's daughters having sex with him be pointed out as deviant, if that was the case?

That's why you have a Mr. Franks who decided to force a couple of banks to make bad loans to people who would never pay them back. Mr. Franks put votes ahead of the rest of society and ran a sordid brothel from his apartment while daylighting as a representative. Guess who cheered him on. Now the banking system is about to fall to the government just like the medical profession and its 1/6 of the economy.

Not sure how that fits into the topic of the thread, but I gather you had to throw in some rhetoric.

When that happens, normal people will lose their freedoms, because people like those in the evil cities will be in charge of the banks, hankering to destroy people who don't cooperate with their deviancies and power-madness as Seawytch calls it.

We have evil people everywhere - some with guns, even, and some who defend that they have their guns. But trying to claim that homosexuality was the reason for Sodom being destroyed is a bit of a stretch.

The bible wasn't written so deviants could change the meanings. It was written so ordinary people could understand it in language that is clear and precise enough to know certain lifestyles are not acceptable. That's why. The entire scenario of deviance is defiance of the authority of the family. They'll damn and disown their own parents and deny them children before they'll change their behaviors, and shill other people into engaging in the behavior daring them with social acceptance and pity. Once in, they're trapped. They even pat themselves on the back for not bringing more people into the world by sex, which is its stated purpose historically.

And it is clear that some have decided that their understanding is the correct one and then go and ignore other scripture that would contradict their understanding, such as you have done when you claim that homosexuality was being condemned, but incest was okay.
Criminals who rape sometimes cause more people into the world, but I'm sure that is not what "God intended".

 

[rdean]

Can't answer the question, can you?

So she's against gay marriage and has a gay sister. That's not throwing someone under the bus.

It is if you feel they don't deserve the same rights as you. One wonders how deep is the "love"?

who you trying to kid Dean?....you hate gays....you said you were a Republican.....you cant change your spots just because you "claim" you now hate them...its inbred in people like you....

I hate gays?

I was a Republican?

When did I say that?

 

[Yurt]

should people involved in incest be allowed the same rights you do?

Incest? Why not murder or sex with dogs?

because we are discussing consensual relationships and acts. now please answer my question as i answered yours.

rdean? is there a reason you didn't answer this?

 

[Ava]

Liz Cheney is demonstrating she is another gutless demagogue with no real principles. She will say whatever she believes the herd wants to hear in order to acquire power.

My opinion of her and her general remarks and opinions, is she is a very truthful person, who will not sell out for an election, which she appears to be losing in WY.

I like that kind of person. She will stay in my memory. And we will hear more of her.

 

[Mertex]

That is so NOT true......where has a Liberal ever discouraged children praying as offensive?

Do all rw'ers make things up?

Close to all. Worse, that picture is misleading since they only love the fetus. Kids they wouldn't mind seeing starve. We know they don't want them to have insurance.

Republicans push bill to cut food stamps /school lunches - Austin Economy

yea i know what you mean Dean....Brown did that out here....that heartless basterd....here is ONE of the links you ran from in those 3 other threads.....you can leave this one now..."Dottie" will stay and defend you.....

CA budget: big cuts to welfare, kids' health care - SFGate

So, you admit that Rick Perry of Texas is a heartless bastard?

Rick Perry's Refusal to Expand Texas' Medicaid Program Could Result In Thousands of Deaths - The Texas Observer


And, Rick Scott of Florida? Rick Scott Wants To Cut Florida's Welfare Costs By Spending More On Welfare | Political Correction

And what about Gov Haslam of Tennessee?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/us/Tennessee Gov unsure about medicaid expansion.

 

[freedombecki]

Children can pray anytime in school as long as they don't disturb the educational process and or disturb their school neighbors.

Several Valedictorians were disciplined for praying during their speeches or for talking about god.

Some schools have tried to ban religious clubs from having meetings on school property.

They were disciplined for straying from their agreed to speeches. You can pray when you want. Public Prayer at a public school becomes an issue

Schools exist today because churches nurtured them into existence first. Free speech means you can say what you think about God in public without fear of reprisal.

Today's schools are chasing their damn tails, and they don't know which way they're going, except they're headed straight downhill as far as I'm concerned when they take the top scholar and force him to say yammerings they can snore their way through and be mellow at the end. Movers and shakers is what valedictorians used to be. Now they're just mouthpieces for the union goons at school.

Laws of mercy.

 

[Mertex]

Can't answer the question, can you?

So she's against gay marriage and has a gay sister. That's not throwing someone under the bus.

It is if you feel they don't deserve the same rights as you. One wonders how deep is the "love"?

who you trying to kid Dean?....you hate gays....you said you were a Republican.....you cant change your spots just because you "claim" you now hate them...its inbred in people like you....

Did you accidentally disclose something? That all Republicans hate gays? It's inbred into them? Hmmmmmm, speak for yourself, I happen to know some Republicans that don't have a problem with gay marriage, in fact, some that are gay themselves.

 

[MeBelle]

What a crock!

A person can still love their relatives but not approve of the way they live their life, so what?

It's that simple!

 

[bodecea]

Why the hell would anyone be interested in the difference of opinion between two daughters of a former Vice President? The current V.P. sometimes has a difference of opinion with himself.

One is running for public office. Surprised you didn't know that.

 

[bripat9643]

here is a refresher for the libs in this thread:

Throw under the bus

To throw (someone) under the bus is an idiomatic phrase in American English meaning to sacrifice another person (often a friend or ally), who is usually not deserving of such treatment, out of malice or for personal gain.

Throw under the bus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exactly. And Liz hopes to be Senator by attacking her sister. Who would vote for someone who sees their own sister as something "less"?

Liz didn't attack her sister.

 

[bripat9643]

It is if you feel they don't deserve the same rights as you. One wonders how deep is the "love"?

who you trying to kid Dean?....you hate gays....you said you were a Republican.....you cant change your spots just because you "claim" you now hate them...its inbred in people like you....

Did you accidentally disclose something? That all Republicans hate gays? It's inbred into them? Hmmmmmm, speak for yourself, I happen to know some Republicans that don't have a problem with gay marriage, in fact, some that are gay themselves.

Disagreeing with gay marriage doesn't equate to hating gays, dingbat.

 

[bodecea]

here is a refresher for the libs in this thread:

Throw under the bus

To throw (someone) under the bus is an idiomatic phrase in American English meaning to sacrifice another person (often a friend or ally), who is usually not deserving of such treatment, out of malice or for personal gain.

Throw under the bus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exactly. And Liz hopes to be Senator by attacking her sister. Who would vote for someone who sees their own sister as something "less"?

Gay haters with gay sisters.

They're just like Petunia Dursley.

 

[freedombecki]

Close to all. Worse, that picture is misleading since they only love the fetus. Kids they wouldn't mind seeing starve. We know they don't want them to have insurance.

Republicans push bill to cut food stamps /school lunches - Austin Economy

yea i know what you mean Dean....Brown did that out here....that heartless basterd....here is ONE of the links you ran from in those 3 other threads.....you can leave this one now..."Dottie" will stay and defend you.....

CA budget: big cuts to welfare, kids' health care - SFGate

So, you admit that Rick Perry of Texas is a heartless bastard?

Rick Perry's Refusal to Expand Texas' Medicaid Program Could Result In Thousands of Deaths - The Texas Observer


And, Rick Scott of Florida? Rick Scott Wants To Cut Florida's Welfare Costs By Spending More On Welfare | Political Correction

And what about Gov Haslam of Tennessee?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/us/Tennessee Gov unsure about medicaid expansion.

Rick Perry of Texas has a huge heart. He knows that if the government keeps jumping up and down about controlling the medical profession good doctors will make a mass exodus. He's actually saving lives by keeping the good doctors in our hospitals. We have the best cancer-defeaters in the world at MD Anderson Hospital in Houston.

He aims to keep it that way.

Honey, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

 

[bodecea]

I love this thread....come for the faux apathy, stay for the faux outrage.

 

[Mertex]

Several Valedictorians were disciplined for praying during their speeches or for talking about god.

Some schools have tried to ban religious clubs from having meetings on school property.

They were disciplined for straying from their agreed to speeches. You can pray when you want. Public Prayer at a public school becomes an issue

Schools exist today because churches nurtured them into existence first. Free speech means you can say what you think about God in public without fear of reprisal.

Today's schools are chasing their damn tails, and they don't know which way they're going, except they're headed straight downhill as far as I'm concerned when they take the top scholar and force him to say yammerings they can snore their way through and be mellow at the end. Movers and shakers is what valedictorians used to be. Now they're just mouthpieces for the union goons at school.

Laws of mercy.

Public schools should be about learning, not about religion. The parochial schools are fine to teach religion, because they are private and the parents obviously agree.

Nobody ever stops me from praying, but I don't need everyone to stop and bend their head and close their eyes every time I decide to do it.

It's not being prohibited, anyone that wants to pray is free to pray. That's why we live in a free country. To try and force those that do not believe in the same God to stop what they are doing so those that do can pray is a bit self-righteous and selfish.

 

[whitehall]

The media must be desperate for something, anything that obscures the Hussein/care mess. If they need to focus on former vice presidents they might investigate whether Al Gore molested anymore massage babes.

 

[Mertex]

yea i know what you mean Dean....Brown did that out here....that heartless basterd....here is ONE of the links you ran from in those 3 other threads.....you can leave this one now..."Dottie" will stay and defend you.....

CA budget: big cuts to welfare, kids' health care - SFGate

So, you admit that Rick Perry of Texas is a heartless bastard?

Rick Perry's Refusal to Expand Texas' Medicaid Program Could Result In Thousands of Deaths - The Texas Observer


And, Rick Scott of Florida? Rick Scott Wants To Cut Florida's Welfare Costs By Spending More On Welfare | Political Correction

And what about Gov Haslam of Tennessee?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/us/Tennessee Gov unsure about medicaid expansion.

Rick Perry of Texas has a huge heart. He knows that if the government keeps jumping up and down about controlling the medical profession good doctors will make a mass exodus. He's actually saving lives by keeping the good doctors in our hospitals. We have the best cancer-defeaters in the world at MD Anderson Hospital in Houston.

That's a bunch of BS produced by the right wing, who can't stand for poor people to have decent health care. Rick Perry doesn't give a crap about the people in his state except for those who support his campaign and think the same way he does. I haven't seen any mass exodus of doctors anywhere because of Medicare, and they certainly aren't leaving because of Obamacare. And the fact that we may have the best cancer-defeaters in the world has nothing to do with Perry's benevolence.

He aims to keep it that way.

Yeah, well, change is coming!

Honey, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

You're the one that is clueless. I noticed you didn't bother to offer an answer my comment regarding the incest of Lot's daughters!

 

[Plasmaball]

Several Valedictorians were disciplined for praying during their speeches or for talking about god.

Some schools have tried to ban religious clubs from having meetings on school property.

They were disciplined for straying from their agreed to speeches. You can pray when you want. Public Prayer at a public school becomes an issue

Schools exist today because churches nurtured them into existence first. Free speech means you can say what you think about God in public without fear of reprisal.

Today's schools are chasing their damn tails, and they don't know which way they're going, except they're headed straight downhill as far as I'm concerned when they take the top scholar and force him to say yammerings they can snore their way through and be mellow at the end. Movers and shakers is what valedictorians used to be. Now they're just mouthpieces for the union goons at school.

Laws of mercy.

Schools of today are in part of by people like Jefferson. There is no free speech in schools. I suggest you learn that fact before spewing out retarded garbage.
You can talk about god all you want, you just can not promote any religion inside a public school. Its amazing how you people always seem to just miss the overall point with these subjects.