Liz Gets Real: Single-Payer Is The Answer

[Clementine]

Healthcare should just all be "free" and non-profit, no exclusions, including care for foreigners and illegals no matter the cost.......

We are talking about basic human "rights"....

Lol

No such think as free. And why are people going to run large hospitals for no profit? You'd end up paying way more for government bureaucrats to step in and run things, which always turns into a disaster because they generally have their heads up their asses. The quality of care would decrease. All medical people would be government employees.

The giant bill for this system, and it would be huge because costs go up when government runs things, would be paid by the middle class.

Less quality, more cost. Waiting lists for care, much like the government-run VA.

Hell, no.

Our rights include those things we do for ourselves or that others don't stop us from doing.

You want medical personnel to become slaves who must provide a service and settle for whatever government pays them. The whole system would be disorganized, with most money spent on the bureaucrats who fuck things up, just like with every other government agency.

We have no rights to the labors of others.

 

[Lakhota]

Republicans should work with Democrats to fix the glitches in Obamacare. Maybe Single-Payer in the near future.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Republicans should work with Democrats to fix the glitches in Obamacare. Maybe Single-Payer in the near future.

No, Republicans should just let that commiecare ponzi scheme keep failing....

 

[Lakhota]

Republicans should work with Democrats to fix the glitches in Obamacare. Maybe Single-Payer in the near future.

No, Republicans should just let that commiecare ponzi scheme keep failing....

Well, then NaziCons should at least stop trying to sabotage Obamacare.

 

[Doc1]

Republicans should work with Democrats to fix the glitches in Obamacare. Maybe Single-Payer in the near future.

What "glitches"?

 

[Clementine]

Republicans should work with Democrats to fix the glitches in Obamacare. Maybe Single-Payer in the near future.

No, Republicans should just let that commiecare ponzi scheme keep failing....

Well, then NaziCons should at least stop trying to sabotage Obamacare.

It was never going to work even under the best circumstances. They wanted single payer and Obamacare was both a favor to Big Pharms and a plan to get more people dependent on government "free shit" so they would protest having their "entitlement" taken away. They wanted this mess so they could offer up single payer as the only solution.

 

[Doc1]

Republicans should work with Democrats to fix the glitches in Obamacare. Maybe Single-Payer in the near future.

No, Republicans should just let that commiecare ponzi scheme keep failing....

Well, then NaziCons should at least stop trying to sabotage Obamacare.

It was never going to work even under the best circumstances. They wanted single payer and Obamacare was both a favor to Big Pharms and a plan to get more people dependent on government "free shit". They wanted this mess so they could offer up single payer as the only solution.

The pre-existing clause was designed to crash the entire thing. It's working.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Elizabeth Warren Calls For Democrats To Embrace Single-Payer Health Care

Obamacare was based on ‘’a conservative model,’’ the Massachusetts Democrat says.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) says it’s time for Democrats to run on single-payer health care across the country.

President Barack Obama “tried to move us forward with health care coverage by using a conservative model that came from one of the conservative think tanks that had been advanced by a Republican governor in Massachusetts,” Warren, referring to Mitt Romney, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal published Tuesday.

“Now it’s time for the next step. And the next step is single payer,” she said.

Warren’s comments represent a shift to her position on the U.S. health care system. In March, she said her support for switching to single-payer ― in which the government handles coverage of health care costs, rather than insurance companies ― would depend on whether Democrats could find Republican lawmakers willing to help fix the Affordable Care Act passed under Obama.

More: Elizabeth Warren Calls For Democrats To Embrace Single-Payer Health Care

I agree that Single-Payer is the way to go! It's time to take insurance companies out of our health care!

Yup. It's inevitable. That big red rural area on the map that voted for Trump doesn't want his expensive health care plan. They can't afford it. That's when they turn on him. Sit back and watch.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Republicans should work with Democrats to fix the glitches in Obamacare. Maybe Single-Payer in the near future.

No, Republicans should just let that commiecare ponzi scheme keep failing....

Well, then NaziCons should at least stop trying to sabotage Obamacare.

It was never going to work even under the best circumstances. They wanted single payer and Obamacare was both a favor to Big Pharms and a plan to get more people dependent on government "free shit" so they would protest having their "entitlement" taken away. They wanted this mess so they could offer up single payer as the only solution.

The reality is that we have to enact Medicare for everyone and everyone pays more in taxes to fund it. If Medicare and the VA works for those who have it, it can work for many. I know of many people who have health care through these channels AND NONE OF THEM ARE COMPLAINING.

The only ones who want insurance companies to control our health decisions ARE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THEIR LOBBYISTS, and dumbasses who have never had to fight an insurance company in order to get a claim paid. PERIOD, the fucking end.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

It won't work in a capitalist system and it's a tax drain. Furthermore, you would have a massive doctor and healthcare revolt as costs would have to come way down in order for it to even be feasible. Possibly lower than even Canadian costs. This would then affect medical school costs, standards, the whole nine.

In the end, it will still fail or be drastically inadequate. Your quality will go down, though you will have more quantity. I believe in a multi-tier system based on free market competition. This is somewhat the issue with a new Bill if cross state insurer competition is enacted.

This is why the focus on "America First" and jobs which have been stolen are so vital. If you have a job, chances are you will have healthcare. Generational welfare (a massive problem in England for instance) will simply tax the system to such a degree that it will not survive. Then, China wins, the world loses.

Every other first world nation has single payer universal health care, and they all have better longevity and infant mortality statistics than we do.

37th weighted heavily towards access.

Why don't you move to Cuba.

Once basic medical issues like infectious diseases are taken care of, longevity is largely a product of lifestyle and behavioral issues, like teenage pregnancies.

The USA doesn't measure infant mortality the same way as European welfare states. Furthermore, we have large populations of immigrants who have high rates of teenage pregnancy.

Oh, there are lots of other issues.

Black on black murder really skews the numbers too.

It's all a huge joke.

If any jackass really believes we are on clean band-aid better than Cuba, they are as retarded as Al Franken.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Trump says Single-Payer is "too expensive" - a "dealbreaker". Bullshit. How would he know?

Because he isn't a fucking retard, the way you are.

You just want someone else to pay your bills, Shittingbull.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Republicans should work with Democrats to fix the glitches in Obamacare. Maybe Single-Payer in the near future.

You should get a job and pay for your own fucking medical care, Shittingbull.

 

[Lakhota]

Single-Payer is the answer.

 

[Rustic]

Single-Payer is the answer.

Washington Redskin, only for progressives... it's a living hell for everybody else. Just keep that shit to yourselves

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Elizabeth Warren Calls For Democrats To Embrace Single-Payer Health Care

Obamacare was based on ‘’a conservative model,’’ the Massachusetts Democrat says.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) says it’s time for Democrats to run on single-payer health care across the country.

President Barack Obama “tried to move us forward with health care coverage by using a conservative model that came from one of the conservative think tanks that had been advanced by a Republican governor in Massachusetts,” Warren, referring to Mitt Romney, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal published Tuesday.

“Now it’s time for the next step. And the next step is single payer,” she said.

Warren’s comments represent a shift to her position on the U.S. health care system. In March, she said her support for switching to single-payer ― in which the government handles coverage of health care costs, rather than insurance companies ― would depend on whether Democrats could find Republican lawmakers willing to help fix the Affordable Care Act passed under Obama.

More: Elizabeth Warren Calls For Democrats To Embrace Single-Payer Health Care

I agree that Single-Payer is the way to go! It's time to take insurance companies out of our health care!

So the democrats have not done enough damage with creating a government health care bill that raises premiums, reduces choices of insurance providers, fines those who DROP their insurance through the IRS by not keeping up with their mandatory insurance coverage payments, that they want MORE federal government control? Obviously liberals are either hard headed fools incapable of learning from their short coming attempts, or lacking of any common sense that they are determined to screw with health care again.

This damage also includes a net gain of over 16 million extra insured people.

Who can't get quality care or are denied certain treatments because it's government that is controlling your costs, which is the net result of both the Canadian's program as well as the NHS system.

 

[forkup]

Elizabeth Warren Calls For Democrats To Embrace Single-Payer Health Care

Obamacare was based on ‘’a conservative model,’’ the Massachusetts Democrat says.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) says it’s time for Democrats to run on single-payer health care across the country.

President Barack Obama “tried to move us forward with health care coverage by using a conservative model that came from one of the conservative think tanks that had been advanced by a Republican governor in Massachusetts,” Warren, referring to Mitt Romney, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal published Tuesday.

“Now it’s time for the next step. And the next step is single payer,” she said.

Warren’s comments represent a shift to her position on the U.S. health care system. In March, she said her support for switching to single-payer ― in which the government handles coverage of health care costs, rather than insurance companies ― would depend on whether Democrats could find Republican lawmakers willing to help fix the Affordable Care Act passed under Obama.

More: Elizabeth Warren Calls For Democrats To Embrace Single-Payer Health Care

I agree that Single-Payer is the way to go! It's time to take insurance companies out of our health care!

So the democrats have not done enough damage with creating a government health care bill that raises premiums, reduces choices of insurance providers, fines those who DROP their insurance through the IRS by not keeping up with their mandatory insurance coverage payments, that they want MORE federal government control? Obviously liberals are either hard headed fools incapable of learning from their short coming attempts, or lacking of any common sense that they are determined to screw with health care again.

This damage also includes a net gain of over 16 million extra insured people.

Who can't get quality care or are denied certain treatments because it's government that is controlling your costs, which is the net result of both the Canadian's program as well as the NHS system.

Really? Yet in Canada, the UK and a host of other nations most of which have single payer the life expectancy is higher. Life Expectancy for Countries
While at the same time the US health care system is the most expensive.List of countries by total health expenditure per capita - Wikipedia
The health care index. Something that ranks healthcare by purely cost benefit ranks the US at 35. The 34 ahead of them all have single payer. So please pray tell why you think the American system is superior. Btw I'm Belgian and live in a single payer country. I can give you personal examples of differences between the US (my wife is American) and the Belgian system, and I'm perfectly willing to compare.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Elizabeth Warren Calls For Democrats To Embrace Single-Payer Health Care

Obamacare was based on ‘’a conservative model,’’ the Massachusetts Democrat says.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) says it’s time for Democrats to run on single-payer health care across the country.

President Barack Obama “tried to move us forward with health care coverage by using a conservative model that came from one of the conservative think tanks that had been advanced by a Republican governor in Massachusetts,” Warren, referring to Mitt Romney, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal published Tuesday.

“Now it’s time for the next step. And the next step is single payer,” she said.

Warren’s comments represent a shift to her position on the U.S. health care system. In March, she said her support for switching to single-payer ― in which the government handles coverage of health care costs, rather than insurance companies ― would depend on whether Democrats could find Republican lawmakers willing to help fix the Affordable Care Act passed under Obama.

More: Elizabeth Warren Calls For Democrats To Embrace Single-Payer Health Care

I agree that Single-Payer is the way to go! It's time to take insurance companies out of our health care!

/---- You single pay for your insurance and I'll single pay for mine. Fair enough?


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[Cellblock2429]

The answer to everything for these people.

the above moron, "thinks" that anybody on the left actually stated that they want "free shit".......This is what passes for right wing fucked up-ness......LOL

/---- Read this tinkerbell Shocker: Sanders Supporters Want Free Stuff From Government, But They Don’t Want To Pay For It


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[bripat9643]

Elizabeth Warren Calls For Democrats To Embrace Single-Payer Health Care

Obamacare was based on ‘’a conservative model,’’ the Massachusetts Democrat says.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) says it’s time for Democrats to run on single-payer health care across the country.

President Barack Obama “tried to move us forward with health care coverage by using a conservative model that came from one of the conservative think tanks that had been advanced by a Republican governor in Massachusetts,” Warren, referring to Mitt Romney, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal published Tuesday.

“Now it’s time for the next step. And the next step is single payer,” she said.

Warren’s comments represent a shift to her position on the U.S. health care system. In March, she said her support for switching to single-payer ― in which the government handles coverage of health care costs, rather than insurance companies ― would depend on whether Democrats could find Republican lawmakers willing to help fix the Affordable Care Act passed under Obama.

More: Elizabeth Warren Calls For Democrats To Embrace Single-Payer Health Care

I agree that Single-Payer is the way to go! It's time to take insurance companies out of our health care!

A good analogy is transportation. If transportation was necessary then we should provide a bus system that anyone can use. It's a good idea for many reasons. But people with money can buy a car.

Same with healthcare. Everyone should receive the basics. You want to choose your doctor pay for it

Is everyone going to pay the same taxes?

The poor can't afford. You pay based on how much you make. Do you object?

Do you pay for gas or milk based on how much you make?

No way, he would be getting it for free.

Notice that he hasn't responded. Leftwingers never want to discuss their theory that prices for things we want should be based on income.

 

[nat4900]

Notice that he hasn't responded. Leftwingers never want to discuss their theory that prices for things we want should be based on income.

You mean like capping social security taxes at $110K ???