London on Lockdown

[Rat in the Hat]

You don't know shit about the poor. If it was up to you, poor people would have NOTHING. No food stamps, no cash aid, no UI.

Just like in India. I've been to third world countries. It's not a pretty picture. They have no welfare, no charities, no food stamps, no shelters, nothing.

If that's what you want, move there.

Old people in the US freeze to death because they can't afford utilities. They go hungry, because they have to choose between medicine and food.

In my county, 20% of our population is unemployed. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people would go hungry.

Forgive me ...but i know plenty about the poor.

If it was up to me... the requirements for assistance would be very strict. Quite a difference. If you want the assistance... follow the rules. If the rules are to much for you... feel free to not accept it. Rather simple.


This is FAR from a third world country. So comparing the two is dishonest of you. I am sure anyone in a thrid world country would trade places with the "poor" here... and i would LOVE to see the "poor" here try and eek out a life in a third world country... maybe they would stop complaining about their privileged lives for once.

Old people are not the healthy young and able....
Old people are not the ones having children they cant afford.

Look toots. I don't know what state you're living in, but in my state the rules for getting cash aid are damn strict.

If it was up to you, we wouldn't have any cash aid, UI or food stamps. Like it or not, poor kids need their parents. If they can't find work, they need help.

That is, unless you'd rather we mimicked India, and took care of nobody.

The poor in America ARE more fortunate. Would you rather we hold our heads high and care for our people or be more like a third world country?

YOU don't get to sterilize poor people. That is so Nazi.

Can I also ask you two to take this somewhere else, so that this thread does not get derailed?

Thanks.

 

[Sky Dancer]

spay and neuter them....seems to be working great in the feral cat population here in the city.

How about not having children if you cant feed and house them. How about not giving birth to a child and bring it into a life of poverty.

Personal responsibility. I know that is a tough concept to understand.

Forced sterilization? My, you are a Nazi. Control freak.

Yeah, let's punish those children for being born. Abort them. Abort any child that is born to a poor person.

Let's not let any poor person even have sex, in case they MAY get pregnant. And let's not let them have any contraception either, not even condoms.

I work with children that you'd like to see go hungry.

LOL... did i say forced? I likened the problem to the feral cat population. spaying and neutering is working well to improve the quality of life.

How about if, when you are on the dole.... you must agree not to have any children while on the dole? If you have children when you apply...any more children will not get you any extra money.... if you want more... make what you are getting cover the new ones you have...

its called

personal responsibility.

I don't know which poor people you know, but none that I know are feral cats. That sounds really racist. You know, the "they're animals" thing.

We have very strict rules in our state about public assistance. The days where it pays to have more and more babies are gone.

You can take your sterilization program and shove it. How dare you call other human beings, "feral cats".

You have no idea how tough life is for some of these folks.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Forgive me ...but i know plenty about the poor.

If it was up to me... the requirements for assistance would be very strict. Quite a difference. If you want the assistance... follow the rules. If the rules are to much for you... feel free to not accept it. Rather simple.


This is FAR from a third world country. So comparing the two is dishonest of you. I am sure anyone in a thrid world country would trade places with the "poor" here... and i would LOVE to see the "poor" here try and eek out a life in a third world country... maybe they would stop complaining about their privileged lives for once.

Old people are not the healthy young and able....
Old people are not the ones having children they cant afford.

Look toots. I don't know what state you're living in, but in my state the rules for getting cash aid are damn strict.

If it was up to you, we wouldn't have any cash aid, UI or food stamps. Like it or not, poor kids need their parents. If they can't find work, they need help.

That is, unless you'd rather we mimicked India, and took care of nobody.

The poor in America ARE more fortunate. Would you rather we hold our heads high and care for our people or be more like a third world country?

YOU don't get to sterilize poor people. That is so Nazi.

Can I also ask you two to take this somewhere else, so that this thread does not get derailed?

Thanks.

We are on topic, you're not.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Look toots. I don't know what state you're living in, but in my state the rules for getting cash aid are damn strict.

If it was up to you, we wouldn't have any cash aid, UI or food stamps. Like it or not, poor kids need their parents. If they can't find work, they need help.

That is, unless you'd rather we mimicked India, and took care of nobody.

The poor in America ARE more fortunate. Would you rather we hold our heads high and care for our people or be more like a third world country?

YOU don't get to sterilize poor people. That is so Nazi.

Can I also ask you two to take this somewhere else, so that this thread does not get derailed?

Thanks.

We are on topic, you're not.

Right. Because the rioting in London has everything to do with India, forced sterilization, the poor in America, and the Nazi's.

Welcome to ignore. You join the ranks of Mr Shaman, Article, and 9/11 inside job. Well done.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Before and after: London riots

 

[syrenn]

You don't know shit about the poor. If it was up to you, poor people would have NOTHING. No food stamps, no cash aid, no UI.

Just like in India. I've been to third world countries. It's not a pretty picture. They have no welfare, no charities, no food stamps, no shelters, nothing.

If that's what you want, move there.

Old people in the US freeze to death because they can't afford utilities. They go hungry, because they have to choose between medicine and food.

In my county, 20% of our population is unemployed. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people would go hungry.

Forgive me ...but i know plenty about the poor.

If it was up to me... the requirements for assistance would be very strict. Quite a difference. If you want the assistance... follow the rules. If the rules are to much for you... feel free to not accept it. Rather simple.


This is FAR from a third world country. So comparing the two is dishonest of you. I am sure anyone in a thrid world country would trade places with the "poor" here... and i would LOVE to see the "poor" here try and eek out a life in a third world country... maybe they would stop complaining about their privileged lives for once.

Old people are not the healthy young and able....
Old people are not the ones having children they cant afford.

Look toots. I don't know what state you're living in, but in my state the rules for getting cash aid are damn strict. People in my state follow the rules or they lose their aid. You've got a big ass, right wing myth going on, that all poor people are cheats.

If it was up to you, we wouldn't have any cash aid, UI or food stamps. Like it or not, poor kids need their parents. If they can't find work, they need help.

That is, unless you'd rather we mimicked India, and took care of nobody.

The poor in America ARE more fortunate. Would you rather we hold our heads high and care for our people or be more like a third world country?

YOU don't get to sterilize poor people. That is so Nazi.

I live in CA.... Where the poor come for the biggest and best handouts in the country. And they STILL complain. Where do i say that they are ALL cheats? Most of them in my opinion are cheats.

That right..if it was up to me there would be no cash aid... it would be just like wic tickets.... this is ticket is good or this and this is good for that. Not some open line of credit that you can blow in a casino or sell for half price so you can get your drugs, designer handbags and cigarets and alcohol.

Where do i say kids don't need their parents? I say PARENTS need to exercise some kind of personal responsibility before they breed like rabbits and then put their hand out for section 8 housing, welfare and food stamps for 18 years. Accountability.... if you have one .... you don't get MORE money when you pop the second out. If you have none... you don't get more when you pop one out. You don get more then a SMALL 2 bedroom apartment.

I know our poor are far better off then third world countries..... however they don't think so do they. All they can do is whine about not having enough. Look at what is going on in the UK.... THAT is just the mentality you want to breed. In breed the idea that the world some how owes them the lifestyle they WANT.

LOL... you still don't get it do you? Where do i say anything about forced sterilization? I say the rules should be spay or neuter if you want the check.... It would be up to the individual to CHOOSE to apply or not....and follow the rules. Do i think that will happen... no, but it is a solution to the problem. It sure is working out for the feral cat population in the city.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

After 4 nights of violence in London, a tentative calm - CNN.com

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Forgive me ...but i know plenty about the poor.

If it was up to me... the requirements for assistance would be very strict. Quite a difference. If you want the assistance... follow the rules. If the rules are to much for you... feel free to not accept it. Rather simple.


This is FAR from a third world country. So comparing the two is dishonest of you. I am sure anyone in a thrid world country would trade places with the "poor" here... and i would LOVE to see the "poor" here try and eek out a life in a third world country... maybe they would stop complaining about their privileged lives for once.

Old people are not the healthy young and able....
Old people are not the ones having children they cant afford.

Look toots. I don't know what state you're living in, but in my state the rules for getting cash aid are damn strict. People in my state follow the rules or they lose their aid. You've got a big ass, right wing myth going on, that all poor people are cheats.

If it was up to you, we wouldn't have any cash aid, UI or food stamps. Like it or not, poor kids need their parents. If they can't find work, they need help.

That is, unless you'd rather we mimicked India, and took care of nobody.

The poor in America ARE more fortunate. Would you rather we hold our heads high and care for our people or be more like a third world country?

YOU don't get to sterilize poor people. That is so Nazi.

I live in CA.... Where the poor come for the biggest and best handouts in the country. And they STILL complain. Where do i say that they are ALL cheats? Most of them in my opinion are cheats.

That right..if it was up to me there would be no cash aid... it would be just like wic tickets.... this is ticket is good or this and this is good for that. Not some open line of credit that you can blow in a casino or sell for half price so you can get your drugs, designer handbags and cigarets and alcohol.

Where do i say kids don't need their parents? I say PARENTS need to exercise some kind of personal responsibility before they breed like rabbits and then put their hand out for section 8 housing, welfare and food stamps for 18 years. Accountability.... if you have one .... you don't get MORE money when you pop the second out. If you have none... you don't get more when you pop one out. You don get more then a SMALL 2 bedroom apartment.

I know our poor are far better off then third world countries..... however they don't think so do they. All they can do is whine about not having enough. Look at what is going on in the UK.... THAT is just the mentality you want to breed. In breed the idea that the world some how owes them the lifestyle they WANT.

LOL... you still don't get it do you? Where do i say anything about forced sterilization? I say the rules should be spay or neuter if you want the check.... It would be up to the individual to CHOOSE to apply or not....and follow the rules. Do i think that will happen... no, but it is a solution to the problem. It sure is working out for the feral cat population in the city.

Sy, please. End this or move it, OK?

 

[Rat in the Hat]

British cities clear up after looting - World news - Europe - msnbc.com

 

[syrenn]

Look toots. I don't know what state you're living in, but in my state the rules for getting cash aid are damn strict. People in my state follow the rules or they lose their aid. You've got a big ass, right wing myth going on, that all poor people are cheats.

If it was up to you, we wouldn't have any cash aid, UI or food stamps. Like it or not, poor kids need their parents. If they can't find work, they need help.

That is, unless you'd rather we mimicked India, and took care of nobody.

The poor in America ARE more fortunate. Would you rather we hold our heads high and care for our people or be more like a third world country?

YOU don't get to sterilize poor people. That is so Nazi.

I live in CA.... Where the poor come for the biggest and best handouts in the country. And they STILL complain. Where do i say that they are ALL cheats? Most of them in my opinion are cheats.

That right..if it was up to me there would be no cash aid... it would be just like wic tickets.... this is ticket is good or this and this is good for that. Not some open line of credit that you can blow in a casino or sell for half price so you can get your drugs, designer handbags and cigarets and alcohol.

Where do i say kids don't need their parents? I say PARENTS need to exercise some kind of personal responsibility before they breed like rabbits and then put their hand out for section 8 housing, welfare and food stamps for 18 years. Accountability.... if you have one .... you don't get MORE money when you pop the second out. If you have none... you don't get more when you pop one out. You don get more then a SMALL 2 bedroom apartment.

I know our poor are far better off then third world countries..... however they don't think so do they. All they can do is whine about not having enough. Look at what is going on in the UK.... THAT is just the mentality you want to breed. In breed the idea that the world some how owes them the lifestyle they WANT.

LOL... you still don't get it do you? Where do i say anything about forced sterilization? I say the rules should be spay or neuter if you want the check.... It would be up to the individual to CHOOSE to apply or not....and follow the rules. Do i think that will happen... no, but it is a solution to the problem. It sure is working out for the feral cat population in the city.

Sy, please. End this or move it, OK?

You dont get it.... this is just the problem that has come to a head in he UK...

The idea of entitlements.... the in bread idea that the government OWES them a lifestyle.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

I live in CA.... Where the poor come for the biggest and best handouts in the country. And they STILL complain. Where do i say that they are ALL cheats? Most of them in my opinion are cheats.

That right..if it was up to me there would be no cash aid... it would be just like wic tickets.... this is ticket is good or this and this is good for that. Not some open line of credit that you can blow in a casino or sell for half price so you can get your drugs, designer handbags and cigarets and alcohol.

Where do i say kids don't need their parents? I say PARENTS need to exercise some kind of personal responsibility before they breed like rabbits and then put their hand out for section 8 housing, welfare and food stamps for 18 years. Accountability.... if you have one .... you don't get MORE money when you pop the second out. If you have none... you don't get more when you pop one out. You don get more then a SMALL 2 bedroom apartment.

I know our poor are far better off then third world countries..... however they don't think so do they. All they can do is whine about not having enough. Look at what is going on in the UK.... THAT is just the mentality you want to breed. In breed the idea that the world some how owes them the lifestyle they WANT.

LOL... you still don't get it do you? Where do i say anything about forced sterilization? I say the rules should be spay or neuter if you want the check.... It would be up to the individual to CHOOSE to apply or not....and follow the rules. Do i think that will happen... no, but it is a solution to the problem. It sure is working out for the feral cat population in the city.

Sy, please. End this or move it, OK?

You dont get it.... this is just the problem that has come to a head in he UK...

The idea of entitlements.... the in bread idea that the government OWES them a lifestyle.

I just don't see it that way. From what I've read, and from what posters in England have posted, this started with a family that went off half-cocked about a punk with an illegal weapon, and all the thugs and hooligans joining in as crimes of opportunity.

If it was all about "poverty" they would be robbing food stores, not the Foot Locker, Western Union, and Sony.

And in the words of one of the girls in the video I posted, "we're showing the rich what we can do". While at the same time, drinking the wine she stole. That doesn't sound like someone who's in desperate poverty to me.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Now this is a really good idea.

SHOP A MORON | The Sun |News

 

[English Dave]

Well, it's the morning after the night before, most of the problems last night were in
Manchester near to me, not London. Hopefully, the massive manpower the police put on
the streets of London last night will be enough to stop this, hope so. I watched what was
going on in Manchester till the early hours, as someone else said, this has become about the
chance to steal sneakers and phones, not a shooting. The TV will be full of talking heads today, all with an explanation for these riots. But, as I said, the government can't find jobs
out of thin air, and many of these people who think they're entited to live their lives at the
expense of the poor hardworking taxpayer, will enjoy their new phones, most will never be
caught and punished. I know people who work hard, try to pay their way, and be law abiding.
They have to think long and hard before they have a child, but the underclass of this country
have no such worries. The more children they have, the more money the government gives
them. In the end, they will overwhelm us unless someone finds an answer.

 

[Colin]

Forced sterilization? My, you are a Nazi. Control freak.

Yeah, let's punish those children for being born. Abort them. Abort any child that is born to a poor person.

Let's not let any poor person even have sex, in case they MAY get pregnant. And let's not let them have any contraception either, not even condoms.

I work with children that you'd like to see go hungry.

LOL... did i say forced? I likened the problem to the feral cat population. spaying and neutering is working well to improve the quality of life.

How about if, when you are on the dole.... you must agree not to have any children while on the dole? If you have children when you apply...any more children will not get you any extra money.... if you want more... make what you are getting cover the new ones you have...

its called

personal responsibility.

I don't know which poor people you know, but none that I know are feral cats. That sounds really racist. You know, the "they're animals" thing.

We have very strict rules in our state about public assistance. The days where it pays to have more and more babies are gone.

You can take your sterilization program and shove it. How dare you call other human beings, "feral cats".

You have no idea how tough life is for some of these folks.

Well, feral cats is much too nice a term for the hooligans rioting and looting in London and other cities. They are the scum of the earth and hanging would be too good for them!

 

[Ravi]

LOL... did i say forced? I likened the problem to the feral cat population. spaying and neutering is working well to improve the quality of life.

How about if, when you are on the dole.... you must agree not to have any children while on the dole? If you have children when you apply...any more children will not get you any extra money.... if you want more... make what you are getting cover the new ones you have...

its called

personal responsibility.

I don't know which poor people you know, but none that I know are feral cats. That sounds really racist. You know, the "they're animals" thing.

We have very strict rules in our state about public assistance. The days where it pays to have more and more babies are gone.

You can take your sterilization program and shove it. How dare you call other human beings, "feral cats".

You have no idea how tough life is for some of these folks.

Well, feral cats is much too nice a term for the hooligans rioting and looting in London and other cities. They are the scum of the earth and hanging would be too good for them!

I found this article pretty interesting and a little frightening. It describes in part, or in theory anyway, what has led up to these riots. (and it isn't liberals, dammit!) And predicts in a way a problem for years to come.

What do you think of it, Colin?

London riots point to much wider risks of youth unrest | Reuters

 

[Ravi]

More like Val is kicking you in the nuts for being a creep in PMs.

No not at all. I called like it was after her - She's getting a good - soon........................................... Off my list for good! Just another liberal moron. Bye Bye Val.

buh bye

Awesome! I prefer to be on the ignore list of creeps.

 

[California Girl]

Sy, please. End this or move it, OK?

You dont get it.... this is just the problem that has come to a head in he UK...

The idea of entitlements.... the in bread idea that the government OWES them a lifestyle.

I just don't see it that way. From what I've read, and from what posters in England have posted, this started with a family that went off half-cocked about a punk with an illegal weapon, and all the thugs and hooligans joining in as crimes of opportunity.

If it was all about "poverty" they would be robbing food stores, not the Foot Locker, Western Union, and Sony.

And in the words of one of the girls in the video I posted, "we're showing the rich what we can do". While at the same time, drinking the wine she stole. That doesn't sound like someone who's in desperate poverty to me.

Funnily, they do 'claim' it's about 'poverty'. But really it seems more like a large bunch of brats who want cool stuff without having to pay for it.

We have some kid on tv saying they're 'redistributing the wealth'. Now, that's not an English concept - that phrase has never been used by any British politician so I wonder where they got that idea from?

 

[California Girl]

Cool! Cameron says the police can 'use whatever means necessary' to stop the thugs. Let's hope they opt for deploying firearms officers with a 'shoot to kill' policy. LMAO. They won't but it would be fun.

 

[Ravi]

Cool! Cameron says the police can 'use whatever means necessary' to stop the thugs. Let's hope they opt for deploying firearms officers with a 'shoot to kill' policy. LMAO. They won't but it would be fun.

Fun to see seven year old's shot?

I don't think it would be at all.

 

[English Dave]

I also just watched the Prime Minister on TV, trying to talk tough with a touch of hand
wringing. I've seen it all before, hopefully this Prime Minister means it. The one thing that
would change things would be the sudden appearance of jobs. This is not going to happen
anytime soon. Also if and when it does, and more work appears, the word will go out, and
polish people, and other eastern europeans who can come here in any amount they want,
will come to England and take the jobs. What would you do if you're an employer, look
for England's feral, give me for nothing youth, or a hard working pole? No contest. Any
leader of this country ends up just trying to keep a lid on problems instead of tackling them.