Looks Like the Trump Admin is Bringing Dark Secrets to The Light

[Redcurtain]

Wowsa, leftards still don't comprehend reality. We are not debating facts at this point. Everyone knew the FBI setup Flynn years ago. A crime so blatantly obvious it should have shut down the FBI until an independent agency can ascertain what happened. Yet right now, leftard idiots insist on defending the most dangerous corruption of government in the history of the USA, pre-lockdown...

Leftards say, "He was a friend of the orange blob who disliked Muslim terrorists and therefore bad."

You can't force someone to lie.

It was a perjury trap

Like I said, you can force someone to lie. He lied, and everything is a perjury trap.

You have a choice, either lie or tell the truth. He lied.

Of course you can you can prosecute a ham sandwich, you never heard of that before?

So now its the DA. LOL.

You didn’t answer my question

My response is yes I have heard of a ham sandwich. They were all anti Flynn, all except for tramp and now Barr. Do not worry , Barr will somehow get the liar off.

So you don’t take the fbi own words it was a trap?

 

[Penelope]

Wowsa, leftards still don't comprehend reality. We are not debating facts at this point. Everyone knew the FBI setup Flynn years ago. A crime so blatantly obvious it should have shut down the FBI until an independent agency can ascertain what happened. Yet right now, leftard idiots insist on defending the most dangerous corruption of government in the history of the USA, pre-lockdown...

Leftards say, "He was a friend of the orange blob who disliked Muslim terrorists and therefore bad."

You can't force someone to lie.

It was a perjury trap

Like I said, you can force someone to lie. He lied, and everything is a perjury trap.

You have a choice, either lie or tell the truth. He lied.

Of course you can you can prosecute a ham sandwich, you never heard of that before?

So now its the DA. LOL.

You didn’t answer my question

My response is yes I have heard of a ham sandwich. They were all anti Flynn, all except for tramp and now Barr. Do not worry , Barr will somehow get the liar off.

So you don’t take the fbi own words it was a trap?

Nope, We know Michael Flynn lied to the FBI. But why?

 

[DBA]

Every person that was convicted during the Mueller fiasco was charged with either process crimes or nothing to do with Trump and Russia. Lets investigate this guy for murder and if we can't make that stick see if you can get him on not paying enough taxes 10 years ago. If that doesn't work either, lets just try to bleed him dry by keeping his lawyers busy with stuff that our government paid for lawyers dig up. Eventually, we will either find something that we will spin to shed a bad light on Trump or he will go broke fighting the frivolous accusations.

They spun all of these into x number of Trump associates were convicted during the Russian investigation. Most only read the headlines, so they assumed that meant there was a a lot of "there there" against Trump, but he managed to get away with it. The real truth is that the entire investigation was nothing but a smear campaign. Partisans and ignorant folks don't care about the truth. They loved the fact that it was making Trump look bad to the rest of the lemmings.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Wray kept the status quo of the FBI the same.

That's not what's needed or needs to happen.

Where's Agent Hardesty?

 

[iceberg]

Every person that was convicted during the Mueller fiasco was charged with either process crimes or nothing to do with Trump and Russia. Lets investigate this guy for murder and if we can't make that stick see if you can get him on not paying enough taxes 10 years ago. If that doesn't work either, lets just try to bleed him dry by keeping his lawyers busy with stuff that our government paid for lawyers dig up. Eventually, we will either find something that we will spin to shed a bad light on Trump or he will go broke fighting the frivolous accusations.

They spun all of these into x number of Trump associates were convicted during the Russian investigation. Most only read the headlines, so they assumed that meant there was a a lot of "there there" against Trump, but he managed to get away with it. The real truth is that the entire investigation was nothing but a smear campaign. Partisans and ignorant folks don't care about the truth. They loved the fact that it was making Trump look bad to the rest of the lemmings.

and that's the bottom line. they wanted him gone. they had zero interest in JUSTICE or RUSSIA - just keep attacking people who support trump and do them in.

i would be furious if trump did this to biden or anyone else. we as a country do not do this and NONE OF US want to live in a country where this is allowed. even if you think "your side won" it's just today and you'll be crying like the little bitch you are as soon as it's done to you and start demanding your social FEELZ justice.

the fbi went in to set him up. their note proves it was not justice they were after but removing him from the picture. used ass whipes like penolope are just a waste of water in their skin.

 

[iceberg]

Wowsa, leftards still don't comprehend reality. We are not debating facts at this point. Everyone knew the FBI setup Flynn years ago. A crime so blatantly obvious it should have shut down the FBI until an independent agency can ascertain what happened. Yet right now, leftard idiots insist on defending the most dangerous corruption of government in the history of the USA, pre-lockdown...

Leftards say, "He was a friend of the orange blob who disliked Muslim terrorists and therefore bad."

You can't force someone to lie.

It was a perjury trap

Like I said, you can force someone to lie. He lied, and everything is a perjury trap.

You have a choice, either lie or tell the truth. He lied.

Of course you can you can prosecute a ham sandwich, you never heard of that before?

So now its the DA. LOL.

You didn’t answer my question

My response is yes I have heard of a ham sandwich. They were all anti Flynn, all except for tramp and now Barr. Do not worry , Barr will somehow get the liar off.

So you don’t take the fbi own words it was a trap?

dude you got some mental twister coming up when you ask her shit like this.

 

[Meister]

They needed information about the calls, beyond the transcripts of the calls?

Probably about other people. Like, "Individual 1". And also about the Russian operations, which, as a lot of people seem to forget, was also their focus.

So getting a date wrong, or a detail wrong, weeks after the call is a big deal?

Who told you that? No, perjury is not a mistake. It's a willful lie. Flynn admitted the willful lie, under oath, in court.

I know, but after shooting themselves in the head, what is the DOJ going to do now?

Probably jack shit, the same as the last 1000 times this same nothingburger attempt was made.

After seeing the hand written notes from the FBI......it was setting him up...pure and simple.
They already had his statement from earlier. The only thing Flynn is guilty of is being naive
for not having a lawyer with him.

3 star generals are "naive"?

Obviously, yes.....when it came to this.

The excuse factory is running two shifts now I see.

A lawyer would have made sure that Flynn would have been afforded the proper protocol
from the FBI before the second interrogation. But that doesn't make any difference to you, corn.

A 10 year old would not admit to committing a crime they didn't commit. Much less a 3 star general.
Such is common sense which you don't seem to have.

What crime did Flynn commit, Candy?

On December 1, 2017, Flynn appeared in federal court to formalize a deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller to plead guilty to a felony count of "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI.

Yup, they twisted him up about nothing Candy. The FBI already had cleared him of any wrongdoing, but called him back
and didn't even tell him to bring a lawyer.

 

[easyt65]

1. The FBI Carried Out A 'Meticulous' Plan To Set-Up Then-National Security Advisor Michael Flynn:

FBI documents unsealed yesterday (Wed, 29 Apr) revealed the Obama Administration's FBI, run by former FBI Director James Comey, had 'meticulously planned-out scheme' to set Flynn up.


Explosive internal FBI documents unsealed Wednesday show bureau officials executed a "meticulously planned-out scheme" in January 2017 to set up then-national security adviser Michael Flynn.

"What we are seeing is a meticulously planned-out scheme to try to get a 33-year combat veteran of the United States to say something that was inaccurate so that they would have a basis to try to charge him with false statements or otherwise get him fired."

The documents turned over by the Justice Department late Wednesday include handwritten notes in which FBI officials openly indicated that their "goal" was "to get him [Flynn] to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired" during special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into alleged collusion by Americans with Russian officials at the time of the 2016 election.

"They did not have a legitimate investigative reason for doing this and there was no criminal predicate or reason to treat him [Flynn] like a criminal suspect"

"They did the interview outside of the established protocols of how the FBI is supposed to interview someone on the White House staff.


Then-FBI Director Comey confessed to being the one to order FBI Agents to go to the WH to conduct an Interview with Flynn, outside of established protocols. Comey declared doing so was an attempt to take advantage of a new, disorganized administration, to get away with violating those protocols before the Trump administration was organized enough to NOT allow the FBI to get away with this move Comey KNEW was not permitted / not standard protocol:

"Then-FBI Director James Comey admitted the Flynn interview didn't follow protocol, and came at his direction. He said the decision to "send a couple of guys over" to the White House to interview Flynn was “something I probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more … organized administration.”



Under then-FBI Director James Comey's direction, FBI Agents went directly to Flynn to conduct the interview...an official investigative interview Flynn did not even know was going on. The reason for by-passing protocols was to avoid informing the WH that the National Security Advisor was being targeted by the FBI.

Had the WH known, the WH Lawyers / Legal Counsel would have pointed out immediately that the FBI had no legitimate investigative reason for conducting the investigation and any official interview with Flynn...and no interview, if allowed to happen, would have occurred without WH Legal Counsel being present. Comey ordered the breach in / violation of protocols to ensure Flynn - new to DC / politics and naïve to the idea that the President's own FBI would be engaged in a campaign begun by Obama to remove Trump from the WH - would be off-guard and not have any legal counsel during the interview:


"People should understand is if General Flynn was a gangbanger or Mafia guy, they would have sat down with them or they would have told him, 'This is a criminal investigation,' they would have identified themselves as FBI agents, told him the reason for the interview, told him he had a right not to answer questions and told him if he made false statements, that could be grounds for prosecution. And if he made true statements, that can be used against him in a prosecution.

They would do all of those things for criminals"...

....but they did NONE of that with Flynn, which is why Flynn was not even aware his 'conversation' with the FBI Agents was an OFFICIAL INTERVIEW that was part of an (ILLEGITIMATE) INVESTIGATION.


"For years, a number of us have been arguing that this looked like a perjury trap. That was common sense for a long time."


* One of the FBI Agents who participated in conducting the interview was then-FBI Deputy Director Peter Strzok, the top Counter-Intelligence expert in the FBI, whose leaked texts to his mistress/partner began to expose the entire failed Obama coup.


These documents are part of the 'treasure trove' of criminal evidence current FBI Director Wray has sat on and refused to release until being forced to now. Director Wray needs to be FIRED and replaced by someone objective from OUTSIDE of the FBI, whose loyalty is not 1st to the FBI and THEN to the nation as Mueller, Comey, and now Wray has proven themselves to be / have been.

Andy McCarthy: Bombshell documents prove FBI had 'meticulously planned-out scheme' to set Flynn up

Explosive internal FBI documents unsealed Wednesday show bureau officials executed a "meticulously planned-out scheme" in January 2017 to set up then-national security adviser Michael Flynn, former federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy told Fox News Monday.

www.foxnews.com

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[iceberg]

When 2 threads isn't enough.

 

[Coyote]

They had recordings of the calls, what more did they need to know?

They needed to leverage him to get him to give them information, by sitting in front of him and letting him do what he does: lie. This is all pretty standard stuff, it seems like. You don't think so? This is pretty much the FBI headshot.

Exactly...it is how law enforcement coerces the smaller fish to cooperate and give info on the big fish.

Flynn isn’t special.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too . FBI discussed interviewing Michael Flynn 'to get him to lie' and 'get him fired,' handwritten notes show a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Fuck jail. They need to be thrown in Gitmo

 

[colfax_m]

Are we seriously supposed to believe that Flynn was unaware that it is illegal to lie to the FBI?

 

[westwall]

They needed information about the calls, beyond the transcripts of the calls?

Probably about other people. Like, "Individual 1". And also about the Russian operations, which, as a lot of people seem to forget, was also their focus.

So getting a date wrong, or a detail wrong, weeks after the call is a big deal?

Who told you that? No, perjury is not a mistake. It's a willful lie. Flynn admitted the willful lie, under oath, in court.

I know, but after shooting themselves in the head, what is the DOJ going to do now?

Probably jack shit, the same as the last 1000 times this same nothingburger attempt was made.

After seeing the hand written notes from the FBI......it was setting him up...pure and simple.
They already had his statement from earlier. The only thing Flynn is guilty of is being naive
for not having a lawyer with him.

3 star generals are "naive"?

Obviously, yes.....when it came to this.

The excuse factory is running two shifts now I see.

A lawyer would have made sure that Flynn would have been afforded the proper protocol
from the FBI before the second interrogation. But that doesn't make any difference to you, corn.

A 10 year old would not admit to committing a crime they didn't commit. Much less a 3 star general.
Such is common sense which you don't seem to have.

What crime did Flynn commit, Candy?

On December 1, 2017, Flynn appeared in federal court to formalize a deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller to plead guilty to a felony count of "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI.

a plea deal to protect his family from the bolshevick tactics the chicom allies in the democratic party were threatening to use .

It was the blob's DOJ.

I see "chicom" there...I guess you just made another nickle.

No, the DOJs upper level have been corrupt for a long time. They are loyal to the political class. Not to we the People.

lol

The blob is responsible for staffing in the DOJ. Blaming imaginary characters is just another excuse you're making for his incompetence.

Only some. The vast majority are locked in, and untouchable.

Your cartoonish take on the government is hilarious.

Your imbecilic belief you are going to be part of the ruling elite for your propaganda work is laughable.

 

[colfax_m]

Wowsa, leftards still don't comprehend reality. We are not debating facts at this point. Everyone knew the FBI setup Flynn years ago. A crime so blatantly obvious it should have shut down the FBI until an independent agency can ascertain what happened. Yet right now, leftard idiots insist on defending the most dangerous corruption of government in the history of the USA, pre-lockdown...

Leftards say, "He was a friend of the orange blob who disliked Muslim terrorists and therefore bad."

You can't force someone to lie.

It was a perjury trap

What exactly do you think a perjury trap is?

 

[westwall]

They had recordings of the calls, what more did they need to know?

They needed to leverage him to get him to give them information, by sitting in front of him and letting him do what he does: lie. This is all pretty standard stuff, it seems like. You don't think so? This is pretty much the FBI headshot.

Exactly...it is how law enforcement coerces the smaller fish to cooperate and give info on the big fish.

Flynn isn’t special.

Not in this country. This country was founded on the principle of equal treatment under the law. What these assholes did was an abomination. What they engaged in is called EXTORTION. Not coercion.

You, of all people, should know the difference.

 

[Weatherman2020]

And the Left wonder why he got fired. He should be in prison.

 

[iceberg]

Are we seriously supposed to believe that Flynn was unaware that it is illegal to lie to the FBI?

Was it an official visit? He was never told it was.

Now please address the handwritten note that said "get him to lie" as their goal.

People find what they are looking for. It's sheer bullshit to ignore what the fbi did. If you can't even admit this was wrong of them you carry no cred into other arguments because your definition of right or wrong changes on your emotional ties.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wowsa, leftards still don't comprehend reality. We are not debating facts at this point. Everyone knew the FBI setup Flynn years ago. A crime so blatantly obvious it should have shut down the FBI until an independent agency can ascertain what happened. Yet right now, leftard idiots insist on defending the most dangerous corruption of government in the history of the USA, pre-lockdown...

Leftards say, "He was a friend of the orange blob who disliked Muslim terrorists and therefore bad."

You can't force someone to lie.

It was a perjury trap

Like I said, you can force someone to lie. He lied, and everything is a perjury trap.

You have a choice, either lie or tell the truth. He lied.

A little Fascism never hurt anyone

 

[iceberg]

Wowsa, leftards still don't comprehend reality. We are not debating facts at this point. Everyone knew the FBI setup Flynn years ago. A crime so blatantly obvious it should have shut down the FBI until an independent agency can ascertain what happened. Yet right now, leftard idiots insist on defending the most dangerous corruption of government in the history of the USA, pre-lockdown...

Leftards say, "He was a friend of the orange blob who disliked Muslim terrorists and therefore bad."

You can't force someone to lie.

It was a perjury trap

What exactly do you think a perjury trap is?

Is what the fbi did legal and ethical?

And I'm going to follow up with this as a larger part of getting to Trump, so buckle up if you choose to defend this.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Flynn claimed he did not "recall" or "thought" xyz. That isn't the same as lying. They have all the details and they drill him on those details. When he said he didn't recall and "thought" xyz happened, they called it perjury. At that point they could hold it over his head as leverage for either dirt on Trump or just bad optics in exchange for a plea deal. Keep in mind, these are the same folks that didn't want Flynn to have his attorney's present during their interviews. Also, their hand written notes are very telling. They knew he hadn't done anything illegal, they had all the info. For this reason, they had to get him on something else...a perjury trap seemed good enough. This was a classic witch hunt, with hopes to get Trump. Only the lefty lemmings can't see what was going on here.

No he out and out lied.

No, he didn't.