Making Imperial Israel Whole

[Hollie]

georgephillip, et al,

George, I think you have found a kindred spirit in Oded Yinon.

"Oded Yinon was a participant or observer in the following events:
February 1982: Article in Israeli Journal Says Israel Should Exploit Internal Tensions of Arab States

"The winter issue of Kivunim, a 'A Journal for Judaism and Zionism,' publishes 'A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties' by Oded Yinon.

"The paper, published in Hebrew, rejects the idea that Israel should carry through with the Camp David accords and seek peace.

"Instead, Yinon suggests that the Arab States should be destroyed from within by exploiting their internal religious and ethnic tensions..."

Oded Yinon

Give peace a chance for a change.

(COMMENT)

In every regime, in any country of influence, political and economic importance, or military power, you will find you will find a representative sample of personalities all over the political spectrum. In the 1980's, as well as today, this spectrum has both hawks and doves at the second deviation points --- outside the normative center. Oded Yinon is one of those hawks to the far right. Notice that, his essay (as short as it is) has more than 20 footnotes in the essay: "A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties." from which you quote. There is hardly a paragraph of original thought.

This is by no means an essay on an official plan. For instance:

The passage you bolded, supra, "The paper, published in Hebrew, rejects the idea that Israel should carry through with the Camp David accords and seek peace." This comes from paragraph 18, which says:

(Regaining) the Sinai peninsula with its present and potential resources is therefore a political priority which is obstructed by the Camp David and the peace agreements. The fault for that lies of course with the present Israeli government and the governments which paved the road to the policy of territorial compromise, the Alignment governments since 1967. The Egyptians will not need to keep the peace treaty after the return of the Sinai, and they will do all they can to return to the fold of the Arab world and to the USSR in order to gain support and military assistance. American aid is guaranteed only for a short while, for the terms of the peace and the weakening of the U.S. both at home and abroad will bring about a reduction in aid. Without oil and the income from it, with the present enormous expenditure, we will not be able to get through 1982 under the present conditions and we will have to act in order to return the situation to the status quo which existed in Sinai prior to Sadat's visit and the mistaken peace agreement signed with him in March 1979.

SOURCE: The Essay by Oded Yinon

Oded Yinon published the essay in 1982. Obviously, conditions change. So far, the Egyptian-Israeli Treaty has held for more than three decades. And with the exploitation of the Levant Basin gas and oil finds, the "mistaken peace agreement signed with him in March 1979," has a new lease on life.

The mistake you made is not uncommon. The rationale and analysis used by the Bush Administration to declare Iraq as a WMD threat to regional peace was also flawed on dated material. The Yinon essay has little connection to today's reality. It doesn't take a Los Vegas Bookie to make odds on a disturbance in the future for the Middle East or Persian Gulf (or both). Much like the Nostradamus Quatrains, you can read a lot in what Yinon said, yet be totally off the mark.

In some fairness. Oded Yinon did make a couple of exceptionally good points, but they had little to do with the Gaza Strip or West Bank.

Most Respectfully,
R

FYI

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5x3AAal0cY]ReThink911 | September 11, 2013 - NYC | Cynthia McKinney - YouTube[/ame]

Oh great. Another twoofer, conspiracy theory whackjob.

 

[P F Tinmore]

georgephillip, et al,

Are we still talking about this Plan (http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/...iddle-east.pdf) published by the Association of Arab-American University Graduates, Inc. ?


(COMMENT)

So other than to claim that the "Arab's" are calling the Israelis --- Imperialist, what is your point?

I'm confused. You are talking an Arab Propaganda publication, and an Arab interpretation, and try to make something sinister out of it.

This is all imaginary material pieced together by pro-Palestinian advocates; that believe "armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine;" and wish to present fictitious and fallacious reason for justification. They believe that "there is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

Israel is a parliamentary democracy. It can hardly be called an "imperial" anything.

While it can be said that Israel has "occupied" populations that organize, instigate, facilitate, participate in, finance, and encourage Jihadist and Feday'een activities --- AND --- and allow their territories to be used for Jihadist and Feday'een installations and training camps for the preparation or organization of Jihadist and Feday'een acts intended to be committed against other States or their citizens, it has not posed a threat to any of the neighboring regional states.

While it can be said that Israeli "occupation" and military action has been used to quarantine the Jihadist and Feday'een operating against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel, it was not the first to use of armed forces, in contravention of the UN Charter; invading and attacking the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel as did the Arab Palestinians and the Arab League. Nor has it sent armed bands of Jihadist and Feday'een to carry out hostile acts against Israel (and other state nationals).

Israel has given no consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, to territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from it "occupation" of territory other than its own self-defense against a neighboring hostile population.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, you really crack me up with that territorial integrity of Israel shtick.

Is there something in his post that you find to be false ??

The "territorial integrity" of a country that has no territory.

 

[P F Tinmore]

georgephillip, et al,

George, I think you have found a kindred spirit in Oded Yinon.


(COMMENT)

In every regime, in any country of influence, political and economic importance, or military power, you will find you will find a representative sample of personalities all over the political spectrum. In the 1980's, as well as today, this spectrum has both hawks and doves at the second deviation points --- outside the normative center. Oded Yinon is one of those hawks to the far right. Notice that, his essay (as short as it is) has more than 20 footnotes in the essay: "A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties." from which you quote. There is hardly a paragraph of original thought.

This is by no means an essay on an official plan. For instance:

The passage you bolded, supra, "The paper, published in Hebrew, rejects the idea that Israel should carry through with the Camp David accords and seek peace." This comes from paragraph 18, which says:



Oded Yinon published the essay in 1982. Obviously, conditions change. So far, the Egyptian-Israeli Treaty has held for more than three decades. And with the exploitation of the Levant Basin gas and oil finds, the "mistaken peace agreement signed with him in March 1979," has a new lease on life.

The mistake you made is not uncommon. The rationale and analysis used by the Bush Administration to declare Iraq as a WMD threat to regional peace was also flawed on dated material. The Yinon essay has little connection to today's reality. It doesn't take a Los Vegas Bookie to make odds on a disturbance in the future for the Middle East or Persian Gulf (or both). Much like the Nostradamus Quatrains, you can read a lot in what Yinon said, yet be totally off the mark.

In some fairness. Oded Yinon did make a couple of exceptionally good points, but they had little to do with the Gaza Strip or West Bank.

Most Respectfully,
R

FYI

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5x3AAal0cY]ReThink911 | September 11, 2013 - NYC | Cynthia McKinney - YouTube[/ame]

Oh great. Another twoofer, conspiracy theory whackjob.

What is her theory and why do you disagree with it?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure that (Former Congressmember) Cynthia McKinney (Democrat - Without Portfolio) has a theory of her own. She merely piggybacks off the popular conspiracy theories.

What is her theory and why do you disagree with it?

(OBSERVATIONS)

"We know there were numerous warnings of the events to come on September 11," McKinney said that day. "What did this administration know and when did it know it, about the events of September 11? Who else knew, and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? What do they have to hide?" McKinney thought she knew the answer. "What is undeniable," she explained, "is that corporations close to the administration have directly benefited from the increased defense spending arising from the aftermath of September 11th."

SOURCE: Weekly Standard

Since making her radio comments, McKinney has backtracked a few steps. "I am not aware of any evidence showing that President Bush or members of his administration have personally profited from the attacks of 9-11," she said. "A complete investigation might reveal that to be the case."

SOURCE: Orlando Sentinel, Apr 17, 2002 911Truth.org

(COMMENT)

She has not presented evidence to disagree with, but merely innuendo and allegations. Her primary allegation is that the US had advance knowledge of the 9-11 attacks; and permitted them to be carried-out them, for family financial gain.

She presents no evidence to debunk.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure that (Former Congressmember) Cynthia McKinney (Democrat - Without Portfolio) has a theory of her own. She merely piggybacks off the popular conspiracy theories.

What is her theory and why do you disagree with it?

(OBSERVATIONS)

"We know there were numerous warnings of the events to come on September 11," McKinney said that day. "What did this administration know and when did it know it, about the events of September 11? Who else knew, and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? What do they have to hide?" McKinney thought she knew the answer. "What is undeniable," she explained, "is that corporations close to the administration have directly benefited from the increased defense spending arising from the aftermath of September 11th."

SOURCE: Weekly Standard

Since making her radio comments, McKinney has backtracked a few steps. "I am not aware of any evidence showing that President Bush or members of his administration have personally profited from the attacks of 9-11," she said. "A complete investigation might reveal that to be the case."

SOURCE: Orlando Sentinel, Apr 17, 2002 911Truth.org

(COMMENT)

She has not presented evidence to disagree with, but merely innuendo and allegations. Her primary allegation is that the US had advance knowledge of the 9-11 attacks; and permitted them to be carried-out them, for family financial gain.

She presents no evidence to debunk.

Most Respectfully,
R

I find it sad that people like Tinmore believe that crap. Very sad.

 

[georgephillip]

georgephillip, et al,

George, I think you have found a kindred spirit in Oded Yinon.


(COMMENT)

In every regime, in any country of influence, political and economic importance, or military power, you will find you will find a representative sample of personalities all over the political spectrum. In the 1980's, as well as today, this spectrum has both hawks and doves at the second deviation points --- outside the normative center. Oded Yinon is one of those hawks to the far right. Notice that, his essay (as short as it is) has more than 20 footnotes in the essay: "A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties." from which you quote. There is hardly a paragraph of original thought.

This is by no means an essay on an official plan. For instance:

The passage you bolded, supra, "The paper, published in Hebrew, rejects the idea that Israel should carry through with the Camp David accords and seek peace." This comes from paragraph 18, which says:



Oded Yinon published the essay in 1982. Obviously, conditions change. So far, the Egyptian-Israeli Treaty has held for more than three decades. And with the exploitation of the Levant Basin gas and oil finds, the "mistaken peace agreement signed with him in March 1979," has a new lease on life.

The mistake you made is not uncommon. The rationale and analysis used by the Bush Administration to declare Iraq as a WMD threat to regional peace was also flawed on dated material. The Yinon essay has little connection to today's reality. It doesn't take a Los Vegas Bookie to make odds on a disturbance in the future for the Middle East or Persian Gulf (or both). Much like the Nostradamus Quatrains, you can read a lot in what Yinon said, yet be totally off the mark.

In some fairness. Oded Yinon did make a couple of exceptionally good points, but they had little to do with the Gaza Strip or West Bank.

Most Respectfully,
R

The rationale and analysis behind the Bush, Clinton lies about Iraq and Obama's lies about Sarin in Syria share a common Truth, Rocco. One that Wesley Clark revealed in his 2003 book and Yinon wrote about twenty years earlier: namely the borders of a New Middle East will be re-drawn in Muslim blood to enhance the lifestyles of rich bankers and generals in the west. If Yinon's esaay "has little connection to today's reality", how do you explain the events that have occurred in Iraq, Egypt, and Lebanon over the past decade and those unfolding in Syria?

What's happening today in those Arab countries are the Arabs' own responsibility. And I don't believe Obama deliberately told lies about Sarin in Syria. He had no real desire to strike Syria, and in the end he avoided it.

Obama has been a blessing to Wall Street and the Pentagon precisely because he lies so convincingly about issues of
War and Debt. He had no way of knowing exactly how many Syrians died last August or which side of the civil war was responsible when he and Kerry announced their intention "retaliate".

He avoided those strikes only because conservative Americans who would have supported Mitt's decision to murder Syrian civilians in a heartbeat could not bring themselves to agree with the "****** in the White House."

"Arab" countries were created by Europeans almost a hundred years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there. The White men who drew Middle Eastern borders after "The War to End All Wars" did so to divvy up the O-I-L. Period. Today's architects of Empire are doing exactly the same thing in much the same way, IMHL.

 

[Hossfly]

The rationale and analysis behind the Bush, Clinton lies about Iraq and Obama's lies about Sarin in Syria share a common Truth, Rocco. One that Wesley Clark revealed in his 2003 book and Yinon wrote about twenty years earlier: namely the borders of a New Middle East will be re-drawn in Muslim blood to enhance the lifestyles of rich bankers and generals in the west. If Yinon's esaay "has little connection to today's reality", how do you explain the events that have occurred in Iraq, Egypt, and Lebanon over the past decade and those unfolding in Syria?

What's happening today in those Arab countries are the Arabs' own responsibility. And I don't believe Obama deliberately told lies about Sarin in Syria. He had no real desire to strike Syria, and in the end he avoided it.

Obama has been a blessing to Wall Street and the Pentagon precisely because he lies so convincingly about issues of
War and Debt. He had no way of knowing exactly how many Syrians died last August or which side of the civil war was responsible when he and Kerry announced their intention "retaliate".

He avoided those strikes only because conservative Americans who would have supported Mitt's decision to murder Syrian civilians in a heartbeat could not bring themselves to agree with the "****** in the White House."

"Arab" countries were created by Europeans almost a hundred years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there. The White men who drew Middle Eastern borders after "The War to End All Wars" did so to divvy up the O-I-L. Period. Today's architects of Empire are doing exactly the same thing in much the same way, IMHL.

So tell us, Georgie Boy, have you consulted with the President of the Sudan and told him not to murder the people of the Black tribes. After all,, he doesn't seem to have any problems with murdering Christians and Blacks in a hearbeat. I would have thought that this would also be important to you since they are your people, and you seem to be the HNIC on these forums. Has anyone seen Georgie Boy on any forums condemning what is happening to his people? Surely he can come up for air after busily bashing Israel and the U.S. day in and day out to say something about the unfortunate Blacks in many parts of Africa.

 

[docmauser1]

Obama has been a blessing to Wall Street and the Pentagon precisely because he lies so convincingly about issues of
War and Debt.

California! Obama! Perestroika! hehe

"Arab" countries were created by Europeans almost a hundred years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there.

"United States of America" ... were created by Europeans almost ... years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there. Theft of Caliphorniah - a bonus.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure that (Former Congressmember) Cynthia McKinney (Democrat - Without Portfolio) has a theory of her own. She merely piggybacks off the popular conspiracy theories.

What is her theory and why do you disagree with it?

(OBSERVATIONS)

Since making her radio comments, McKinney has backtracked a few steps. "I am not aware of any evidence showing that President Bush or members of his administration have personally profited from the attacks of 9-11," she said. "A complete investigation might reveal that to be the case."

SOURCE: Orlando Sentinel, Apr 17, 2002 911Truth.org

(COMMENT)

She has not presented evidence to disagree with, but merely innuendo and allegations. Her primary allegation is that the US had advance knowledge of the 9-11 attacks; and permitted them to be carried-out them, for family financial gain.

She presents no evidence to debunk.

Most Respectfully,
R

I find it sad that people like Tinmore believe that crap. Very sad.

What does she say that you disagree with?

 

[docmauser1]

What does she say that you disagree with?

Drivel, naturally.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure that (Former Congressmember) Cynthia McKinney (Democrat - Without Portfolio) has a theory of her own. She merely piggybacks off the popular conspiracy theories.

What is her theory and why do you disagree with it?

(OBSERVATIONS)

"We know there were numerous warnings of the events to come on September 11," McKinney said that day. "What did this administration know and when did it know it, about the events of September 11? Who else knew, and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? What do they have to hide?" McKinney thought she knew the answer. "What is undeniable," she explained, "is that corporations close to the administration have directly benefited from the increased defense spending arising from the aftermath of September 11th."

SOURCE: Weekly Standard

Since making her radio comments, McKinney has backtracked a few steps. "I am not aware of any evidence showing that President Bush or members of his administration have personally profited from the attacks of 9-11," she said. "A complete investigation might reveal that to be the case."

SOURCE: Orlando Sentinel, Apr 17, 2002 911Truth.org

(COMMENT)

She has not presented evidence to disagree with, but merely innuendo and allegations. Her primary allegation is that the US had advance knowledge of the 9-11 attacks; and permitted them to be carried-out them, for family financial gain.

She presents no evidence to debunk.

Most Respectfully,
R

I think that you have been misinformed.

911 commission report one year later - YouTube

9/11 Omission Hearings - YouTube

 

[Hossfly]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure that (Former Congressmember) Cynthia McKinney (Democrat - Without Portfolio) has a theory of her own. She merely piggybacks off the popular conspiracy theories.

What is her theory and why do you disagree with it?

(OBSERVATIONS)

Since making her radio comments, McKinney has backtracked a few steps. "I am not aware of any evidence showing that President Bush or members of his administration have personally profited from the attacks of 9-11," she said. "A complete investigation might reveal that to be the case."

SOURCE: Orlando Sentinel, Apr 17, 2002 911Truth.org

(COMMENT)

She has not presented evidence to disagree with, but merely innuendo and allegations. Her primary allegation is that the US had advance knowledge of the 9-11 attacks; and permitted them to be carried-out them, for family financial gain.

She presents no evidence to debunk.

Most Respectfully,
R

I think that you have been misinformed.

911 commission report one year later - YouTube

9/11 Omission Hearings - YouTube

All that twoofer babble and malarkey. Makes one dizzy.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure that (Former Congressmember) Cynthia McKinney (Democrat - Without Portfolio) has a theory of her own. She merely piggybacks off the popular conspiracy theories.


(OBSERVATIONS)





(COMMENT)

She has not presented evidence to disagree with, but merely innuendo and allegations. Her primary allegation is that the US had advance knowledge of the 9-11 attacks; and permitted them to be carried-out them, for family financial gain.

She presents no evidence to debunk.

Most Respectfully,
R

I find it sad that people like Tinmore believe that crap. Very sad.

What does she say that you disagree with?

That the government knew about the attack and let it happen.

 

[georgephillip]

What's happening today in those Arab countries are the Arabs' own responsibility. And I don't believe Obama deliberately told lies about Sarin in Syria. He had no real desire to strike Syria, and in the end he avoided it.

Obama has been a blessing to Wall Street and the Pentagon precisely because he lies so convincingly about issues of
War and Debt. He had no way of knowing exactly how many Syrians died last August or which side of the civil war was responsible when he and Kerry announced their intention "retaliate".

He avoided those strikes only because conservative Americans who would have supported Mitt's decision to murder Syrian civilians in a heartbeat could not bring themselves to agree with the "****** in the White House."

"Arab" countries were created by Europeans almost a hundred years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there. The White men who drew Middle Eastern borders after "The War to End All Wars" did so to divvy up the O-I-L. Period. Today's architects of Empire are doing exactly the same thing in much the same way, IMHL.

So tell us, Georgie Boy, have you consulted with the President of the Sudan and told him not to murder the people of the Black tribes. After all,, he doesn't seem to have any problems with murdering Christians and Blacks in a hearbeat. I would have thought that this would also be important to you since they are your people, and you seem to be the HNIC on these forums. Has anyone seen Georgie Boy on any forums condemning what is happening to his people? Surely he can come up for air after busily bashing Israel and the U.S. day in and day out to say something about the unfortunate Blacks in many parts of Africa.

Do you mean this Sudan, Hossie?

"Sudan, the most torn apart state in the Arab Moslem world today is built upon four groups hostile to each other, an Arab Moslem Sunni minority which rules over a majority of non-Arab Africans, Pagans, and Christians."

A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties

Would that be the same Sudan that Wesley Clark revealed was on a Pentagon hit list of seven Arab states slated for regime change within weeks of 911?

 

[georgephillip]

Obama has been a blessing to Wall Street and the Pentagon precisely because he lies so convincingly about issues of
War and Debt.

California! Obama! Perestroika! hehe

"Arab" countries were created by Europeans almost a hundred years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there.

"United States of America" ... were created by Europeans almost ... years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there. Theft of Caliphorniah - a bonus.

Chomsky agrees:

"Christian Zionism is an important factor, often ignored, in shaping policy towards Israel-Palestine, from early years.

"There are others.

"It is noteworthy, for example, that the strongest support for Israel in the international arena comes from the US, Canada, and Australia, the so-called Anglosphere, settler-colonial societies based on extermination or expulsion of indigenous populations in favor of a higher race, and where such behavior is considered natural and praiseworthy..."

Violence and Dignity: Reflections on the Middle East (2013 Edward Said Lecture)

 

[Hossfly]

Obama has been a blessing to Wall Street and the Pentagon precisely because he lies so convincingly about issues of
War and Debt. He had no way of knowing exactly how many Syrians died last August or which side of the civil war was responsible when he and Kerry announced their intention "retaliate".

He avoided those strikes only because conservative Americans who would have supported Mitt's decision to murder Syrian civilians in a heartbeat could not bring themselves to agree with the "****** in the White House."

"Arab" countries were created by Europeans almost a hundred years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there. The White men who drew Middle Eastern borders after "The War to End All Wars" did so to divvy up the O-I-L. Period. Today's architects of Empire are doing exactly the same thing in much the same way, IMHL.

So tell us, Georgie Boy, have you consulted with the President of the Sudan and told him not to murder the people of the Black tribes. After all,, he doesn't seem to have any problems with murdering Christians and Blacks in a hearbeat. I would have thought that this would also be important to you since they are your people, and you seem to be the HNIC on these forums. Has anyone seen Georgie Boy on any forums condemning what is happening to his people? Surely he can come up for air after busily bashing Israel and the U.S. day in and day out to say something about the unfortunate Blacks in many parts of Africa.

Do you mean this Sudan, Hossie?

"Sudan, the most torn apart state in the Arab Moslem world today is built upon four groups hostile to each other, an Arab Moslem Sunni minority which rules over a majority of non-Arab Africans, Pagans, and Christians."

A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties

Would that be the same Sudan that Wesley Clark revealed was on a Pentagon hit list of seven Arab states slated for regime change within weeks of 911?

George, I'm not in Wesley Clark's inner circle anymore. He un-friended me on Facebook.

 

[Hossfly]

Obama has been a blessing to Wall Street and the Pentagon precisely because he lies so convincingly about issues of
War and Debt. He had no way of knowing exactly how many Syrians died last August or which side of the civil war was responsible when he and Kerry announced their intention "retaliate".

He avoided those strikes only because conservative Americans who would have supported Mitt's decision to murder Syrian civilians in a heartbeat could not bring themselves to agree with the "****** in the White House."

"Arab" countries were created by Europeans almost a hundred years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there. The White men who drew Middle Eastern borders after "The War to End All Wars" did so to divvy up the O-I-L. Period. Today's architects of Empire are doing exactly the same thing in much the same way, IMHL.

So tell us, Georgie Boy, have you consulted with the President of the Sudan and told him not to murder the people of the Black tribes. After all,, he doesn't seem to have any problems with murdering Christians and Blacks in a hearbeat. I would have thought that this would also be important to you since they are your people, and you seem to be the HNIC on these forums. Has anyone seen Georgie Boy on any forums condemning what is happening to his people? Surely he can come up for air after busily bashing Israel and the U.S. day in and day out to say something about the unfortunate Blacks in many parts of Africa.

Do you mean this Sudan, Hossie?

"Sudan, the most torn apart state in the Arab Moslem world today is built upon four groups hostile to each other, an Arab Moslem Sunni minority which rules over a majority of non-Arab Africans, Pagans, and Christians."

A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties

Would that be the same Sudan that Wesley Clark revealed was on a Pentagon hit list of seven Arab states slated for regime change within weeks of 911?

Are we back to your Wesley Clark shtick again, Georgie Boy? When Georgie finds something that meets with his approval, no doubt the viewers are smart enough to see how much he vomits it out. I guess Georgie Boy has not a care in the world about what is happening to his fellow Blacks in Africa. Perhaps if Georgie Boy was put in a cage for a day in the L.A. Zoo the way Blacks are put in cages in Libya, he would know how it feels to be a Black when the Arab Muslims are in charge. As it is, Georgie Boy is certainly on his way to becoming a very good Dhimmi even though he would be called an abd because of his color.
Wesley Clark Goes From 4-Star General to Reality TV Punchline | Danger Room | Wired.com

 

[Hossfly]

Obama has been a blessing to Wall Street and the Pentagon precisely because he lies so convincingly about issues of
War and Debt.

California! Obama! Perestroika! hehe

"Arab" countries were created by Europeans almost a hundred years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there.

"United States of America" ... were created by Europeans almost ... years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there. Theft of Caliphorniah - a bonus.

Chomsky agrees:

"Christian Zionism is an important factor, often ignored, in shaping policy towards Israel-Palestine, from early years.

"There are others.

"It is noteworthy, for example, that the strongest support for Israel in the international arena comes from the US, Canada, and Australia, the so-called Anglosphere, settler-colonial societies based on extermination or expulsion of indigenous populations in favor of a higher race, and where such behavior is considered natural and praiseworthy..."

Violence and Dignity: Reflections on the Middle East (2013 Edward Said Lecture)

There are some Jews whom Georgie Boy likes if they have the same mind set as he has. Since Chomsky actually is irreligious, no doubt he would say a thing like that. However, Georgie Boy, what you conveniently forget is that the Arabs look down at Blacks and they think they are the higher race. Are you really that comatose that you don't realize this fact by now? And, of course, looking down on Blacks, they consider it natural and praiseworthy. In fact, since it is the Muslim world who is still into slavery in the 21st century, for all we know if they captured Georgie Boy, he would become one of the abds of the Muslims the same way those unfortunate Black Muslims of Darfur who were captured are. i can't but help believe (and perhaps there are others here also) that if Georgie Boy put as much time and effort as he does to find articles to bash the Jews, America and Israel, he might have done much better in school and wouldn't always be pissing and moaning about those who have some money. For all we know, Georgie Boy is so busy finding articles that he might be getting Meals on Wheels since he has no time to grocery shop.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

OK, this doesn't tell me anything. It doesn't present evidence of anything. It was a complaint forum.

I'm not even sure that (Former Congressmember) Cynthia McKinney (Democrat - Without Portfolio) has a theory of her own. She merely piggybacks off the popular conspiracy theories.

What is her theory and why do you disagree with it?

(OBSERVATIONS)

Since making her radio comments, McKinney has backtracked a few steps. "I am not aware of any evidence showing that President Bush or members of his administration have personally profited from the attacks of 9-11," she said. "A complete investigation might reveal that to be the case."

SOURCE: Orlando Sentinel, Apr 17, 2002 911Truth.org

(COMMENT)

She has not presented evidence to disagree with, but merely innuendo and allegations. Her primary allegation is that the US had advance knowledge of the 9-11 attacks; and permitted them to be carried-out them, for family financial gain.

She presents no evidence to debunk.

Most Respectfully,
R

I think that you have been misinformed.

911 commission report one year later - YouTube

9/11 Omission Hearings - YouTube

(COMMENT)

• What evidence do you have?
• What allegation are you making?

State your case.

Remember, the 911 Commission was not the lead investigate arm for the event.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[docmauser1]

Obama has been a blessing to Wall Street and the Pentagon precisely because he lies so convincingly about issues of
War and Debt.

California! Obama! Perestroika! hehe

"Arab" countries were created by Europeans almost a hundred years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there.

"United States of America" ... were created by Europeans almost ... years ago with absolutely no consultation with the assorted tribes, religions, or ethnic groups living there. Theft of Caliphorniah - a bonus.

Chomsky agrees:"Christian Zionism is an important factor, often ignored, in shaping policy towards Israel-Palestine, from early years.

Non sequitur drivel, of course.