Man Cannot Be Suitably Moral or Good without God. Here's why:

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are the threatened one, so, sorry that you're afraid of God and His promises. Or that you don't understand a warning when you get it. But, then again, it's not for everybody, so enjoy life while you can...

Yes, anyone who doesn't believe this childish nonsense is threatened by your childish, magical threats. That doesn't mean they actually fear the threat.

YOU are the one who fears the threat.

So all of your embarrassing dog and pony show applies more to you than to me.

Which is pretty funny, considering how proud of it you are and your misguided impression that you mock anyone but yourself.

Hilarious, really.

 

[Briss]

In the atheists' skewed view, joyfully dedicating your day to the service of others is 'hateful',

I tutored children in reading . . . for no reward.

You are teaching people that I'm not genuine in my concern for children.

Now, who do you suppose is being genuine?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Yes, anyone who doesn't believe this childish nonsense is threatened by your childish, magical threats. That doesn't mean they actually fear the threat.

YOU are the one who fears the threat.

So all of your embarrassing dog and pony show applies more to you than to me.

Which is pretty funny, considering how proud of it you are and your misguided impression that you mock anyone but yourself.

Hilarious, really.

Love doesn't threaten me. The lack of it threatens you. You have a good life. And after it's over, tell the rich man I said, "Hi" and am sorry he didn't listen to the warning either...

 

[Briss]

Love doesn't threaten me. The lack of it threatens you. You have a good life. And after it's over, tell the rich man I said, "Hi" and am sorry he didn't listen to the warning either...

What does your god get out of throwing people into his dungeon-torture chamber? Seems the god is full of emotion because what else could be behind that kind of malevolent gesture?

Pain for the sake of pain . . .

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Love doesn't threaten me.

Right, the prospect of not living forever scares you. That's why you are a Christian. No afterlife reward = you not a Christian.

And so you think your childish, magical threats are compelling.

 

[The Irish Ram]

No, If you are right, and I die then I have lost nothing. So I have nothing at all to fear, one way or the other.
If I am right and you die, you lose everything...

 

[Meriweather]

That's why you are a Christian. No afterlife reward = you not a Christian.

Many of us follow the way of Christianity for the blessings it brings to our present life and for the relationship it builds with God. We don't need help in the afterlife, but in our present life.

 

[Faun]

No, If you are right, and I die then I have lost nothing. So I have nothing at all to fear, one way or the other.

Not true, you will have spent a life in fear that you would be banished to hell if you didn't toe the line.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Many of us follow the way of Christianity for the blessings it brings to our present life and for the relationship it builds with God.

Sorry, I don't buy that. We have covered this ground.

You believe it for the forever prize. The rest is incidental.

 

[Meriweather]

You believe it for the forever prize.

No. You believe that is why I believe.

I believe for the reasons I stated.

Again, out of curiosity: Why do you think you know me better than I know myself? What is it about you that is so certain you can read someone online?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No. You believe that is why I believe.

Damn right. If not for the forever prize, you wouldn't believe any of it. There wouldn't even be a religion. No Christianity and no Christians.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why do you think you know me better than I know myself?

If I don't believe someone's claim that their houseplants talk to them, am I claiming to know them better than they know themselves?

No. I am using simple reasoning, based on evidence.

 

[Meriweather]

f not for the forever prize, you wouldn't believe any of it.

This is incorrect. Further, this life is the prize, so enjoy.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This is incorrect. Further, this life is the prize, so enjoy.

Not only would you not believe any of it, you would never even have heard of it, if not for the forever prize.

Those are simple facts.

 

[Meriweather]

If I don't believe someone's claim that their houseplants talk to them, am I claiming to know them better than they know themselves?

Seems you could use a quick lesson in logical fallacies.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Seems you could use a quick lesson in logical fallacies.

Nah, weak trolling.

I am not calling you a liar. I am calling you deluded.

 

[Meriweather]

Not only would you not believe any of it, you would never even have heard of it, if not for the forever prize.

Incorrect. What you call the "forever prize" is your crazy focus. There is much more out there.

 

[Meriweather]

I am calling you deluded.

That being the case, this will be my last post to you. Since you hold that belief, you shouldn't be wasting your time with me. Been nice at times, but never again...count on it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Incorrect. What you call the "forever prize" is your crazy focus. There is much more out there.

I covered that. That is all incidental. If not for the forever prize, you wouldn't believe in any of it, and in fact, would never even have heard of any of it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That being the case, this will be my last post to you. Since you hold that belief, you shouldn't be wasting your time with me. Been nice at times, but never again...count on it.

It's a discussion. Where ideas are exchanged. Yes, you are deluding yourself to think that you would believe any of this stuff without the forever prize attached. Because you would not.


You are not a Mystic. You are a theist.