Mark Levin Calls on Republicans to Boycott State of the Union

[Katzndogz]

Republicans should decline to attend. Half SCOTUS no longer goes. The SOTU is no linger a report on the country. It is a chance for obama to tell us how wonderful he is. As he does that every day attending the speech is useless.

 

[Foxfyre]

Well, I'm late to the party here.

Thanks for posting the thread, [MENTION=25505]Jroc[/MENTION]. And thanks for the invite to comment.

IMO, it is a bad idea, but not for partisan reasons as you may think. I would say the same thing were we to have a Republican President right now.

Mark Levin may think it's a good idea, but Mark Levin does not have the responsibility of shepherding legislation through congress. Congresspeople do.

A half-empty chamber for any SOTU would only enforce the notion that the opposition party is having a temper tantrum, has taken it's ball and gone home.

For good or for bad, a televised SOTU is now almost mandatory. The United States Constitution says the following:

Article II, Section III:

The President "shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."


There is nothing in the Constitution that says it must be once a year or even in January. A number of US Presidents sent in the SOTU per letter, which was then read in the Congress.

But today, anything other than a televised/internetted SOTU would be nothing short of a scandal. Were President Obama to do the SOTU in any other way, or not at all, Right Wingers would be screaming from the rafters that he is somehow unpatriotic. And yet, the Constitution does not mandate an SOTU a.) in January of every year, b.) once a year or c.) that it be televised or transmitted to the public at large in any way at all.

Having the opposition party take it's ball home just because it disagrees with the POTUS would only make the opposition party look cheap. End of line.

And Mark Levin says lots of the stuff that is simply not the truth. The Constitution does not mandate that the Congress give an SOTU, Levin is somewhat delusional about this. I wonder if he has ever read the Constitution.

I imagine Mark Levin has forgotten more about what he knows about the Constitution than any of us ever collectively knew and he still knows a hell of lot more about it than any of us collectively know.

He did not say that the Constitution mandates that the Congress give an SOTU. But a SOTU is scheduled for 2014 and he did suggest that the GOP should boycott it to demonstrate their objection to the lawlessness of this President. The fact that the Constitution leaves the rules about when and how the SOTU will be delivered is immaterial and non sequitur. The SOTU will be given in 2014 and is on the calendar.

Woodrow Wilson is credited with starting the tradition of delivering the address directly to Congress early in the year and by the time the radio became popular, Presidents were routinely using the SOTU to push their administative agendas. It became part of the cultural routine. Prior to Wilson, I believe the form of the SOTU was delivered to Congress mostly as a written report.

You can imagine that, but it don't make it so, at least in my case. Put me up against Mark Levin on a talk show any day of the week. I would be delighted to dismantle him in about 15 minutes time.

I never said that he said that the Constitution mandates as SOTU in January. I merely pointed out that the Constitution does not do this, only to add information to the flow, here.

Your comments about Wilson - spot-on. About written SOTU's before - also quite correct.

So then what were you inferring Levin said when you wrote this?

And Mark Levin says lots of the stuff that is simply not the truth. The Constitution does not mandate that the Congress give an SOTU, Levin is somewhat delusional about this. I wonder if he has ever read the Constitution.

And good luck getting on that talk show. I've seen a lot of very presumably smart people try to best him in an open debate, and so far nobody has been able to do so. Be sure to let me know when you are scheduled to go up against him though so I can tune in.

And as an old debater, and then debate coach and judge, I can tell you I would not want to go up against him except as a friendly exercise even on a topic I know inside out. He got his bachelor's degree at age 19 when he graduated summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, and he was at the top of his class in law school. He not only knows his stuff but he is wicked smart.

 

[Jroc]

Well, I'm late to the party here.

Thanks for posting the thread, [MENTION=25505]Jroc[/MENTION]. And thanks for the invite to comment.

IMO, it is a bad idea, but not for partisan reasons as you may think. I would say the same thing were we to have a Republican President right now.

Mark Levin may think it's a good idea, but Mark Levin does not have the responsibility of shepherding legislation through congress. Congresspeople do.

A half-empty chamber for any SOTU would only enforce the notion that the opposition party is having a temper tantrum, has taken it's ball and gone home.

For good or for bad, a televised SOTU is now almost mandatory. The United States Constitution says the following:

Article II, Section III:

The President "shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."


There is nothing in the Constitution that says it must be once a year or even in January. A number of US Presidents sent in the SOTU per letter, which was then read in the Congress.

But today, anything other than a televised/internetted SOTU would be nothing short of a scandal. Were President Obama to do the SOTU in any other way, or not at all, Right Wingers would be screaming from the rafters that he is somehow unpatriotic. And yet, the Constitution does not mandate an SOTU a.) in January of every year, b.) once a year or c.) that it be televised or transmitted to the public at large in any way at all.

Having the opposition party take it's ball home just because it disagrees with the POTUS would only make the opposition party look cheap. End of line.

And Mark Levin says lots of the stuff that is simply not the truth. The Constitution does not mandate that the Congress give an SOTU, Levin is somewhat delusional about this. I wonder if he has ever read the Constitution.

I imagine Mark Levin has forgotten more about what he knows about the Constitution than any of us ever collectively knew and he still knows a hell of lot more about it than any of us collectively know.

He did not say that the Constitution mandates that the Congress give an SOTU. But a SOTU is scheduled for 2014 and he did suggest that the GOP should boycott it to demonstrate their objection to the lawlessness of this President. The fact that the Constitution leaves the rules about when and how the SOTU will be delivered is immaterial and non sequitur. The SOTU will be given in 2014 and is on the calendar.

Woodrow Wilson is credited with starting the tradition of delivering the address directly to Congress early in the year and by the time the radio became popular, Presidents were routinely using the SOTU to push their administative agendas. It became part of the cultural routine. Prior to Wilson, I believe the form of the SOTU was delivered to Congress mostly as a written report.

You can imagine that, but it don't make it so, at least in my case. Put me up against Mark Levin on a talk show any day of the week. I would be delighted to dismantle him in about 15 minutes time.

I never said that he said that the Constitution mandates as SOTU in January. I merely pointed out that the Constitution does not do this, only to add information to the flow, here.

Your comments about Wilson - spot-on. About written SOTU's before - also quite correct.

Well this wasn't the thread I meant, but since you did comment, I would suggest you know the person a bit. Look him up because you apparently don't now anything about him... That's cool though... Live and learn bro

Mark Reed Levin (born September 21, 1957) is an American lawyer, author, and the host of American syndicated radio show The Mark Levin Show. Levin worked in the administration of President Ronald Reagan and was a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese. He is president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, has authored five books and contributes commentary to various media outlets such as National Review Online. He pronounces his name with the stress on the second syllable, leVIN,

Mark Reed Levin was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and grew up in Erdenheim and Elkins Park, Pennsylvania. His father, Jack E. Levin, is the author of several books. He graduated from Cheltenham High School after three years in 1974 After high school, Levin enrolled at Temple University Ambler including summer classes and graduated with a bachelor's degree in Political Science in 1977 at age 19, summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa. Levin won election to the Cheltenham school board in 1977 on a platform of reducing property taxes.In 1980, Levin earned a juris doctor from Temple University Beasley School of Law. Levin worked for Texas Instruments after law school.

Beginning in 1981, Levin served as advisor to several members of President Ronald Reagan's cabinet, eventually becoming Associate Director of Presidential Personnel and ultimately Chief of Staff to Attorney General Edwin Meese; Levin also served as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Elementary and Secondary Education at the U.S. Department of Education, and Deputy Solicitor of the U.S. Department of the Interior.

He practiced law in the private sector and is president of Landmark Legal Foundation, a public interest law firm founded in 1976 and based in Leesburg, Virginia

Mark Levin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Statistikhengst]

Thanks for the information, but I am well aware of his bio.

 

[auditor0007]

This would be great. Too bad most of the spineless Republicans have no guts

“Here's what should happen at the State of the Union speech,” Levin began. “Since these men and women will not use the Constitution to defend this nation, since they will not use the Constitution to confront a lawless president — worse yet, since they are funding his activities with these omnibus bills filled with all kinds of crap — what the Republicans should do is boycott the State of the Union.”

By such a “bold” act, he said, half of the House floor will be empty and it will grab the attention of the American people and the media, “which will attack it, but cannot ignore it.”

“It would be historic, it would be profound, that finally the opposition party demonstrates that it opposes not just the Democrat Party, but the destruction of this republic, but this president and his willing dupes in Congress," he added.

He suggested Republicans present their own State of the Union by, perhaps, joining together on the steps of the Capitol to lay out their case against the president's agenda.

Radio Host Mark Levin Calls on Republicans to Boycott State of Union

This just goes to prove what an ass hat Mark Levin is. Let's just see how far we can divide America with stupid ideas like this.

 

[Sarah G]

This would be great. Too bad most of the spineless Republicans have no guts

“Here's what should happen at the State of the Union speech,” Levin began. “Since these men and women will not use the Constitution to defend this nation, since they will not use the Constitution to confront a lawless president — worse yet, since they are funding his activities with these omnibus bills filled with all kinds of crap — what the Republicans should do is boycott the State of the Union.”

By such a “bold” act, he said, half of the House floor will be empty and it will grab the attention of the American people and the media, “which will attack it, but cannot ignore it.”

“It would be historic, it would be profound, that finally the opposition party demonstrates that it opposes not just the Democrat Party, but the destruction of this republic, but this president and his willing dupes in Congress," he added.

He suggested Republicans present their own State of the Union by, perhaps, joining together on the steps of the Capitol to lay out their case against the president's agenda.

Radio Host Mark Levin Calls on Republicans to Boycott State of Union

This just goes to prove what an ass hat Mark Levin is. Let's just see how far we can divide America with stupid ideas like this.

I've heard about Levin occasionally for years, he's never gone beyond the average whiney wingnut stage, he is a loser.

Who cares what he calls on people to do?

 

[thanatos144]

Levin's ok. He despises Communists. I'm with him on that. But i'm not a loyal follower. His followers don't realize that he's been part of the Neocon/Progressive Globalist cabal for many years. He's an insider and a Lawyer. He's been part of the problem. So i wouldn't trust him so much. And he is wrong on this one. It will not help the cause. The Communists are already on their way out. The People don't want em anymore. So it would be wise to stay calm & cool. It's time to sit back and enjoy watching their fall. Stunts like this just aren't necessary.

You have no idea what you're talking about..Listen to him and get back to me you. Just posted some talking points "He's a lawyer" Yeah a constitutional originalist you have a problem with that?

But but but he was mean to Ron Paul the savior of us all!

 

[thanatos144]

Obama doesn't need public sympathy after the GOP pulls a stunt.

Just let him dig his own hole with his big mouth and teleprompter.

Most Americans realize he is a lying sack of shit.

Most Americans voted for him as President, and support him.

No they didn't. Most Americans didn't vote.

 

[1776]

He barely got 50% of the vote.

Just because scum like you voted for him doesn't mean most Americans "today" support the lying sack of shit after being lied to for over 4 years.

Uh...take a look at his poll numbers, asswipe.

Obama doesn't need public sympathy after the GOP pulls a stunt.

Just let him dig his own hole with his big mouth and teleprompter.

Most Americans realize he is a lying sack of shit.

Most Americans voted for him as President, and support him.

 

[Foxfyre]

Levin's ok. He despises Communists. I'm with him on that. But i'm not a loyal follower. His followers don't realize that he's been part of the Neocon/Progressive Globalist cabal for many years. He's an insider and a Lawyer. He's been part of the problem. So i wouldn't trust him so much. And he is wrong on this one. It will not help the cause. The Communists are already on their way out. The People don't want em anymore. So it would be wise to stay calm & cool. It's time to sit back and enjoy watching their fall. Stunts like this just aren't necessary.

You have no idea what you're talking about..Listen to him and get back to me you. Just posted some talking points "He's a lawyer" Yeah a constitutional originalist you have a problem with that?

But but but he was mean to Ron Paul the savior of us all!

And he holds conservative ideas and opposes their fearless leader's policies, therefore he is a loser, whiney butt, ass, and doesn't know anything yadda yadda. God, they are so predictable aren't they? LOL. Sometimes I read threads like this for the comedy value and for reaffirmation that those who can't compete in the realm of ideas and concepts have nothing left but red herrings, straw men, non sequitur, made up or dishonest accusations, and a whole long list of insulting and/or hateful adjectives.

If I knew nothing about Mark Levin other than how the left characterizes him, I would know he had something worthwhile to offer.

 

[SwimExpert]

This would be great. Too bad most of the spineless Republicans have no guts

“Here's what should happen at the State of the Union speech,” Levin began. “Since these men and women will not use the Constitution to defend this nation, since they will not use the Constitution to confront a lawless president — worse yet, since they are funding his activities with these omnibus bills filled with all kinds of crap — what the Republicans should do is boycott the State of the Union.”

By such a “bold” act, he said, half of the House floor will be empty and it will grab the attention of the American people and the media, “which will attack it, but cannot ignore it.”

“It would be historic, it would be profound, that finally the opposition party demonstrates that it opposes not just the Democrat Party, but the destruction of this republic, but this president and his willing dupes in Congress," he added.

He suggested Republicans present their own State of the Union by, perhaps, joining together on the steps of the Capitol to lay out their case against the president's agenda.

Radio Host Mark Levin Calls on Republicans to Boycott State of Union

 

[Mustang]

It was way back in the day but you may still be able to find it on YouTube. Rush was on a talk show that had a webcam (it took took a shot of the guest something like every 3 seconds). The guy interviewing him did the 6-10 PM evening call in show at an affiliate that just signed Rush; sounds kind of like what you're describing except it wasn't a book Rush was pushing, it was his show which had just came on the scene I guess. Again this was early in his career so new affiliates got some special attention and apparently this was a big city--may have been Houston or New Orleans.

Anyway, some callers called in and began basically berating the guy. With his right hand, he began pointing with his index finger. Not at the camera and not at the microphone but at the base of the mike itself. It looked like a nervous twitch of some sort. Finally, the local guy hosting the show asked him what he was doing. Rush said that he had a habit of turning down the caller when he wanted to make a point and was trying to do that while being a guest on the show.

A lot of those guys live in a bubble. Unlike politicians who have to learn to stand and take the heat, these hosts aren't used to it and can't handle it. They're tough guys behind a mic in a studio. But even when someone calls in and challenges them, they can't handle it if they're not in control which is what happened when Levin was a guest and couldn't just shut down the call himself.

Please.... Levin will take apart any of you pea brained, liberal, clones

He regularly hangs up on people. Considering that his call screeners can choose people who are relatively easy for a professional radio host to debate (especially considering the Internet and staff resources at his fingertips), that's not a sign of someone who can go toe to toe with an adversary while keeping his wits about him.

Levin is a bully. That was made abundantly clear when I saw him on C-SPAN Book TV and watched him as he got extremely flustered when one or two callers challenged him and he was forced to deal with them instead of his usual habit of hanging up on them and then haranguing them after they were off the line.

 

[Jroc]

A lot of those guys live in a bubble. Unlike politicians who have to learn to stand and take the heat, these hosts aren't used to it and can't handle it. They're tough guys behind a mic in a studio. But even when someone calls in and challenges them, they can't handle it if they're not in control which is what happened when Levin was a guest and couldn't just shut down the call himself.

Please.... Levin will take apart any of you pea brained, liberal, clones

He regularly hangs up on people. Considering that his call screeners can choose people who are relatively easy for a professional radio host to debate (especially considering the Internet and staff resources at his fingertips), that's not a sign of someone who can go toe to toe with an adversary while keeping his wits about him.

Levin is a bully. That was made abundantly clear when I saw him on C-SPAN Book TV and watched him as he got extremely flustered when one or two callers challenged him and he was forced to deal with them instead of his usual habit of hanging up on them and then haranguing them after they were off the line.

Media matters talking points. You're clueless, very clueless. He's does hang up on idiot, morons, who do nothing but spew lib talking points and can't think for themselves...Are you one of those people? Not really sure what C Span interview you are referring to. Find it and post it.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Please.... Levin will take apart any of you pea brained, liberal, clones

He regularly hangs up on people. Considering that his call screeners can choose people who are relatively easy for a professional radio host to debate (especially considering the Internet and staff resources at his fingertips), that's not a sign of someone who can go toe to toe with an adversary while keeping his wits about him.

Levin is a bully. That was made abundantly clear when I saw him on C-SPAN Book TV and watched him as he got extremely flustered when one or two callers challenged him and he was forced to deal with them instead of his usual habit of hanging up on them and then haranguing them after they were off the line.

Media matters talking points. You're clueless, very clueless. He's does hang up on idiot, morons, who do nothing but spew lib talking points and can't think for themselves...Are you one of those people? Not really sure what C Span interview you are referring to. Find it and post it.

Ok, here it is:

In Depth with Mark Levin - C-SPAN Video Library

180 minutes long.

Also reported here:

Mark Levin Interviewed On C-SPAN's Book TV | Video | RealClearPolitics

(RCP, hardly a left-wing site)


Also direct in youtube:



Watch it. Levin got more than flustered by 3 callers, actually. What Mustang reports is actually standard procedure for Levin, I have tuned into his show more than once.

 

[Mr Natural]

"Get off the phone, you big dope" is his standard response to callers who call him on his crap.

How mature.

 

[thanatos144]

This would be great. Too bad most of the spineless Republicans have no guts

“Here's what should happen at the State of the Union speech,” Levin began. “Since these men and women will not use the Constitution to defend this nation, since they will not use the Constitution to confront a lawless president — worse yet, since they are funding his activities with these omnibus bills filled with all kinds of crap — what the Republicans should do is boycott the State of the Union.”

By such a “bold” act, he said, half of the House floor will be empty and it will grab the attention of the American people and the media, “which will attack it, but cannot ignore it.”

“It would be historic, it would be profound, that finally the opposition party demonstrates that it opposes not just the Democrat Party, but the destruction of this republic, but this president and his willing dupes in Congress," he added.

He suggested Republicans present their own State of the Union by, perhaps, joining together on the steps of the Capitol to lay out their case against the president's agenda.

Radio Host Mark Levin Calls on Republicans to Boycott State of Union

This just goes to prove what an ass hat Mark Levin is. Let's just see how far we can divide America with stupid ideas like this.

You liberals are already doing a bang up job of that

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[thanatos144]

"Get off the phone, you big dope" is his standard response to callers who call him on his crap.

How mature.

Lol you mean the dopes like you spouting ignorance?

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[Freewill]

Talk about ahole moves at the SOTU

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzP_s-Ynr0M]Justice Alito Says "Not True" During State Of The Union - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Mustang]

Please.... Levin will take apart any of you pea brained, liberal, clones

He regularly hangs up on people. Considering that his call screeners can choose people who are relatively easy for a professional radio host to debate (especially considering the Internet and staff resources at his fingertips), that's not a sign of someone who can go toe to toe with an adversary while keeping his wits about him.

Levin is a bully. That was made abundantly clear when I saw him on C-SPAN Book TV and watched him as he got extremely flustered when one or two callers challenged him and he was forced to deal with them instead of his usual habit of hanging up on them and then haranguing them after they were off the line.

Media matters talking points. You're clueless, very clueless. He's does hang up on idiot, morons, who do nothing but spew lib talking points and can't think for themselves...Are you one of those people? Not really sure what C Span interview you are referring to. Find it and post it.

No, they're just my own observations after having listened to his show for years.

Another point I failed to mention is how phony he can be. His radio persona is the 180 degree directional difference than how he starts out on CSPAN. Levin makes every effort to come across as a calm, reasonable, and rational man.

At first I couldn't tell which was the real Levin. Was he more of a calm person who put on a show for his radio audience. Or was he more of a firebrand by nature and temperament who was purposely trying to tone it down for the intellectual crowd. Now, I had seen this difference before in a previous interview. So, I had to watch a long time before the REAL Levin showed up. Eventually he got more excited and started ranting a little. That's when I knew that the REAL Levin is the lunatic on the radio.

 

[paulitician]

Levin's ok. He despises Communists. I'm with him on that. But i'm not a loyal follower. His followers don't realize that he's been part of the Neocon/Progressive Globalist cabal for many years. He's an insider and a Lawyer. He's been part of the problem. So i wouldn't trust him so much. And he is wrong on this one. It will not help the cause. The Communists are already on their way out. The People don't want em anymore. So it would be wise to stay calm & cool. It's time to sit back and enjoy watching their fall. Stunts like this just aren't necessary.

You do know that because a person is a constitutional conservative and not a LIBERTARIAN that he isn't a progressive right? Tell me you are not that far gone

Levin has been part of the Neocon/Progressive Globalist cabal for years. He's been part of the problem. But like i said, he's ok. He rails against the Communists, and i'm with him on that. Just keep in mind though, Neocon/Progressive Globalists are only a hair off being Communist Globalists themselves. However I have noticed a change in Levin in recent years. He's coming around. He's finally beginning to shed his Neocon/Progressive Globalist skin. But this is still a bad idea. The Communists are gonna fall. So there's no need for dramatic stunts like this.