Mass Shootings. Inconvenient Facts

[cnm]

Not really.

So why did you say it?

But even when your dog whistling is accounted for, the US firearm homicide rate is egregious. That you want to regard it as no big deal is one of the reasons it's as high as it is.

 

[Blues Man]

They are useless, as shown by comparing them with the laws of other developed nations without the US firearm homicide problem.

Stop moaning. It's only other people's kids after all.

Yes all laws that are not enforced are useless.

Now you are finally getting it. And it's about fucking time.

 

[cnm]

When intercity youth and gang members are caught with illegal guns, more than once, they aren't locked up for life.

What a fucking idiot.

 

[Blues Man]

So why did you say it?

But even when your dog whistling is accounted for, the US firearm homicide rate is egregious. That you want to regard it as no big deal is one of the reasons it's as high as it is.

4 out of 100K really isn't much. Besides it isn;t 2nd Amendment advocates that are doing the murdering. We actually want the fucking government to enforce out gun laws.

 

[Failzero]

The world's a tough place. Buy a helmet

And if You buy a Firearm be ready to fail a Drug Screening and have your 4473 Form kicked back denied due to ( SSRIs ) ( Molly / Meth / Chronic)

 

[cnm]

Yes all laws that are not enforced are useless.

Now you are finally getting it. And it's about fucking time.

So why do you complain they are not enforced if they are of no use?


Of course. It's part of the dog whistling whining.

C'mon, you know you've got a good deal. Easy access to firearms at no cost to you.

 

[Blues Man]

What a fucking idiot.

More shit you idiot foreigners don;t know about the US murder rtae

Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders

You can examine the picture of the US counties in more detail by opening it in a new tab. The Distribution of murders The United States can really be divided up into three types of places. Places w…

crimeresearch.org

This study shows how murders in the United States are heavily concentrated in very small areas. Few appreciate how much of the US has no murders each year. Murder isn’t a nationwide problem. It’s a problem in a very small set of urban areas, and any solution must reduce those murders.

 

[cnm]

We actually want the fucking government to enforce out gun laws.

Which you say are useless.

Instead of adopting policies that will reduce the firearm homicide rate, because a small sacrifice is too much for you to make for your fellow citizens.

 

[MisterBeale]

Stopping The Next Batman Murderer​

Meds and Mass Murder​

Meds and Mass Murder | Gun Facts

Rates of adverse violent and delusional reactions to psychotropic prescription medications and uniquely covariant with mass public shootings.

www.gunfacts.info

http://www.gunfacts.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GUNS-AND-CRIME-Psychotropic-medications-covariance-with-mass-public-shootings-1999-through-1027.png

 

[Blues Man]

So why do you complain they are not enforced if they are of no use?


Of course. It's part of the dog whistling whining.

C'mon, you know you've got a good deal. Easy access to firearms at no cost to you.

OK you need to slow down and reread what I said. It's OK if you need to follow the words with your finger and move your lips as you read.

I said law abiding gun owners WANT the fucking government to enforce the gun laws we have had on the books for decades and I said that any law that is NOT ENFORCED is useless.

Therefore it is the fucking government that is rendering our gun laws useless by NOT FUCKING ENFORCING THEM

 

[Blues Man]

Which you say are useless.

Instead of adopting policies that will reduce the firearm homicide rate, because a small sacrifice is too much for you to make for your fellow citizens.

WRONG

I said

LAWS THAT ARE NOT ENFORCED ARE USELESS

The stupid is strong in you.

 

[Blues Man]

Stopping The Next Batman Murderer​

Meds and Mass Murder​

Meds and Mass Murder | Gun Facts

Rates of adverse violent and delusional reactions to psychotropic prescription medications and uniquely covariant with mass public shootings.

www.gunfacts.info

http://www.gunfacts.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GUNS-AND-CRIME-Psychotropic-medications-covariance-with-mass-public-shootings-1999-through-1027.png

MAss shootings are a mental health issue not a gun law isuue

 

[cnm]

Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders

You can examine the picture of the US counties in more detail by opening it in a new tab. The Distribution of murders The United States can really be divided up into three types of places. Places w…

crimeresearch.org

The possibility that Lott may have been in a position to disrupt research that informs grantmaking had alarmed gun violence researchers, who feared he could manipulate or withhold federal data in order to support his agenda. “I’ve seen him in different venues literally start making stuff up,” Daniel Webster, the director of the Center for Gun Policy and Research at Johns Hopkins University, told me last month.​

Discredited Gun Researcher Out at Justice Department

John Lott, who pushes the theory that “more guns = less crime,” was hired in October to advise on crime data.

www.thetrace.org

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[cnm]

MAss shootings are a mental health issue not a gun law isuue

Another fucking idiot.

 

[rightwinger]

Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders

You can examine the picture of the US counties in more detail by opening it in a new tab. The Distribution of murders The United States can really be divided up into three types of places. Places w…

crimeresearch.org

The possibility that Lott may have been in a position to disrupt research that informs grantmaking had alarmed gun violence researchers, who feared he could manipulate or withhold federal data in order to support his agenda. “I’ve seen him in different venues literally start making stuff up,” Daniel Webster, the director of the Center for Gun Policy and Research at Johns Hopkins University, told me last month.​

Discredited Gun Researcher Out at Justice Department

John Lott, who pushes the theory that “more guns = less crime,” was hired in October to advise on crime data.

www.thetrace.org

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Imagine that

Counties with almost no people have very few murders while densely populated cities do.

Thanks Capt Obvious

 

[Bell Huey]

Another fact is that around 50% of homicides in the US are committed with handguns.

Severely restricting handguns so they were less available in the community would reduce both the firearm homicide rate and the overall homicide rate.

More firearms have been purchased the last three years than any point in recent history yet the violent crime rate is decreasing:

The 19,200 homicides in 2022 made up less than 2% of the approximately one million violent crimes known to the police that year. The homicide rate fell by 7% between 2021 and 2022, from 6.8 to 6.3 homicides per 100,000.

Did Violent Crime Go Up or Down? Yes, It Did. - Council on Criminal Justice

While the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting data showed a drop in the nation’s violent crime rate in 2022, data from the National Crime Victimization Survey showed that violent crime victimization increased. What does this discrepancy mean and why might it exist?

counciloncj.org

Americans bought almost 60 million guns during the pandemic

One-fifth of U.S. households purchased guns during the pandemic, a national arming that exposed more than 15 million Americans to firearms in the home for the first time, academic studies show.&nbs…

thehill.com

 

[cnm]

I said

LAWS THAT ARE NOT ENFORCED ARE USELESS

And I said, the US gun laws are useless anyway.
By that I meant the prevalence of 'legal' handguns and military style semi automatics means one does not have to obey the law to obtain a firearm in a country swimming in them.

Because it is legal for those firearms to be in society they will always be much easier to obtain in the US than in other developed countries, if your pretty meaningless laws are enforced or not.

I mean, it is law in a lot of your states that a permit/licence/whatever will be issued, for example.

 

[cnm]

Thanks Capt Obvious

He depends on Lott, ffs.

 

[Batcat]

Another fact is that around 50% of homicides in the US are committed with handguns.

Severely restricting handguns so they were less available in the community would reduce both the firearm homicide rate and the overall homicide rate.

People are less likely to give up their handguns than their “assault rifles.” Today a large and increasing number of people legally carry a firearm in public. In many states you do not even need a license to do so.

Constitutional Carry / Unrestricted / Permitless Carry | USCCA

Unrestricted means that a permit is not required to carry a concealed handgun. See a list of permitless carry states here.

www.usconcealedcarry.com

Controlling handguns was the plan of the original group that later became the Brady Campaign. It failed and would fail once again today if tried.

Brady Campaign - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Mark Borinsky founded the National Council to Control Handguns in 1974. He served as Chair until 1976. Charlie Orasin was a key player in the founding and growth of Handgun Control (HCI). He worked at HCI from 1975 until 1992.[11]

Nelson "Pete" Shields became the organization's chairman in 1978 and retired in 1989.[12] In July 1976, Shields estimated that it would take seven to ten years for NCCH to reach the goal of "total control of handguns in the United States." He said: "The first problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second is to get handguns registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition – except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors – totally illegal."[13]In 1987 Shields said that he believed "in the right of law-abiding citizens to possess handguns... for legitimate purposes.".[14

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Another fact is that around 50% of homicides in the US are committed with handguns.

Severely restricting handguns so they were less available in the community would reduce both the firearm homicide rate and the overall homicide rate.

Democrats should turn in their guns.