Massive Voter Fraud Discovered in North Carolina’s 2012 Election

[asterism]

It will be determined, like it has in the past, a great many of these 765 cases of matches are clerical errors / input mistakes. They very well may find a few. A few.

You also have to consider someone would have to have physical residence in both states, and have the means and motivation to travel to the other state to vote and cast one extra vote that would put them in jeopardy of being charged with a felony, huge fines, and possible jail time.

How many of those with dual residencies would be motivated that much they would risk prison time for the sake of one extra vote?

I submit not too many.

So a little bit of fraud is acceptable?

Is banning eligible voters acceptable?
Is making people spend hours in line acceptable?

No eligible voter is banned. If errors are made provisional ballots are available.

Long waits for voting is not acceptable.

 

[g5000]

The Lbiturds keep saying voter fraud is negligible. Do you think 35,000 fraudulent votes is negligible? How about 155,000? How about 81 dead people voting?

The PJ Tatler » Massive Voter Fraud Discovered in North Carolina?s 2012 Election

The North Carolina State Board of Elections has found thousands of instances of voter fraud in the state, thanks to a 28-state crosscheck of voter rolls. Initial findings suggest widespread election fraud.

• 765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
• 35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
• 155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state – and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.

The second point is key, as double voting is election fraud under state and federal statutes. Punishment for double voting in federal elections can include jail time.

In October 2012, Project Veritas produced video showing a Barack Obama campaign worker helping a voter register to vote in both Texas and Florida.

The Interstate Crosscheck examines 101 million voter records in more than two dozen participating states.

The findings, while large, leave open the question of just how widespread double voting might be since 22 states did not participate in the Interstate Crosscheck.

In addition to the above, the crosscheck found that more than 13,000 deceased voters remain on North Carolina’s rolls, and that 81 of them showed voter activity in their records after death.

North Carolina officials are now calling for tighter election security.​

None of those would be corrected, prevented, or caught by Voter ID. As I have said a bazilion times, the cure for voter fraud is the proper maintenance of voter registration rolls. Key word: proper.

There is a right way and a wrong way to perform a purge of the rolls.

It's a damn shame the rubes have been spending so much time, energy, and taxpayer dollars on Voter ID instead of methods which would actually be effective against the kinds of voter fraud which occur.

As for "neglible", it is in-person fraud that is neglible. And that is the only kind of fraud fpr which Voter ID would have any utility.

 

[g5000]

I will also bet money that the instances of fraud found in North Carolina did not all take place in 2012. I bet they occurred over a wide span of years.

 

[mamooth]

Who do you think does the voting for dead people?

Essentially nobody. That's the point, that these computer cross-checking exercises always end being totally wrong. Bri and the other crazies are just doing that sore-loser thing which they're so famous for.

But in those very few cases where there is actual vote fraud done, it's done by Republicans as often as by Democrats. However, since Democrats are into that liberty and counting all the votes thing, we won't use vote fraud by a few Republicans as an excuse to stop millions of Republicans from voting.

 

[Star]

Republican interstate ‘voter fraud’ detection program yields little fraud

Oct. 24, 2013 <--

"What sets the Interstate Crosscheck program apart from other systems state and local election boards use is the size of its database —in 2012, the program compared more than 84 million voter registration records — and the massive number it tends to report as “possible double registrations,”— what would appear to be the same person, in different states.

The program’s 2013 scan identified over five million such cases – about one in seventeen of every record it scanned.


It’s a staggering number – but also staggeringly deceptive one."

Republican interstate ?voter fraud? detection program yields little fraud | AxisPhilly

The article above is well worth reading to understand how they can come up with such high numbers at first cross-check.

Thanks for the article... Republican interstate ‘voter fraud’ detection program yields little fraud | AxisPhilly


The arithmetic from your article is telling - laughable, if not so serious. The Republican sponsored, "The Interstate Voter Crosscheck Program"...

"84 million voter registration records — and the massive number it tends to report as “possible double registrations,”— what would appear to be the same person, in different states."

"Ohio Secretary of State John Husted announced: “This report demonstrates that voter fraud does exist,” citing numbers in the hundreds to back up his claim. In fact, his office referred only 20 cases to law enforcement and none have resulted in charges so far."

"Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler announced that the Crosscheck had helped identify 17 cases of alleged fraud, which were submitted to the Boulder County District Attorney’s office for investigation. In July, the Boulder D.A. announced that none had involved fraud and called Gessler’s actions “politically motivated.”"

"Kobach himself, the Crosscheck program’s creator, recently told the Washington Times that “double voting is a real common form of voter fraud.” "...and could not say whether the Interstate Crosscheck program had resulted in a single charge of voter fraud, in Kansas or anywhere else.

What the program has resulted in, meanwhile, is voter purges.""

"In an email, [Philadelphia elections commissioner Stephanie] Singer, a Democrat, compared the program to the photo ID movement: “Find a way to disenfranchise American citizens, cloak it in rhetoric about election integrity and, by the way, create an unfunded mandate for the County Boards of Election.”"

Review:
The Interstate Voter Crosscheck Program started with 84 million possible double voter registrations in their data bank, resulting 5 million "hits" resulting in zero convictions while costing the DA's offices in multiple states a lot of unfunded dough and-----and costing local election boards a lot of unfunded dough. And Republicans have the audacity-----audacity to claim preventive medicine is wasteful... -pewsh!-

Dumbass wasteful Republicans -- whoda thunk?
.

 

[Ame®icano]

It will be determined, like it has in the past, a great many of these 765 cases of matches are clerical errors / input mistakes. They very well may find a few. A few.

You also have to consider someone would have to have physical residence in both states, and have the means and motivation to travel to the other state to vote and cast one extra vote that would put them in jeopardy of being charged with a felony, huge fines, and possible jail time.

How many of those with dual residencies would be motivated that much they would risk prison time for the sake of one extra vote?

I submit not too many.

So a little bit of fraud is acceptable?

Is banning eligible voters acceptable?
Is making people spend hours in line acceptable?

Any proof that eligible voters are banned from voting?
And yes, its ok to stand in line for hours to vote.

 

[Star]

So, what are we up to now?

.00000000003% or so?

1 is too many.. and reason enough to put in place systems and processes to help reduce the chance of occurrence

I love your Cheney Doctrine on steroids attitude about perceived voter fraud from Republicans -- the ads for various Democratic candidates are already in the can. At least one I was told about goes something like this; in our district, my Republican opponent is not able to cite a single instance of someone casting more than one vote - not one, let alone cite a single election being affected by voter impersonation but-----but my Republican opponent wants to spend millions of your hard earned dollars proving that what I just said is 100% true - giggle.
.

 

[emilynghiem]

So, what are we up to now?

.00000000003% or so?

ha ha Luddly

The biggest political fraud I've found is liberal Democrats
claiming to defend "freedom of choice from government controls"
then throwing all that out the window when ACA was passed as their pigskin to use
in the game.

So what percentage of prochoice liberal Democrats support
Prochoice when it applies to ALL people including people
who oppose ACA on similar grounds defending the "right to choose"

I am one who supports the choice of Prolifers to defend their views
equally as Prochoice, and I am told I am rare.

What % of the Democrat party am I, Luddly?
.00000000000 what % ?
who is truly "prochoice" for all people
and not committing political fraud by backing an anti-choice bill?

 

[Brain357]

So a little bit of fraud is acceptable?

Is banning eligible voters acceptable?
Is making people spend hours in line acceptable?

Any proof that eligible voters are banned from voting?
And yes, its ok to stand in line for hours to vote.

Who the heck can stand in line for hours to vote? Most of us have jobs.

 

[bripat9643]

It will be determined, like it has in the past, a great many of these 765 cases of matches are clerical errors / input mistakes. They very well may find a few. A few.

You also have to consider someone would have to have physical residence in both states, and have the means and motivation to travel to the other state to vote and cast one extra vote that would put them in jeopardy of being charged with a felony, huge fines, and possible jail time.

How many of those with dual residencies would be motivated that much they would risk prison time for the sake of one extra vote?

I submit not too many.

So a little bit of fraud is acceptable?

Is banning eligible voters acceptable?
Is making people spend hours in line acceptable?

You obviously believe voter fraud is acceptable.

 

[Brain357]

So a little bit of fraud is acceptable?

Is banning eligible voters acceptable?
Is making people spend hours in line acceptable?

You obviously believe voter fraud is acceptable.

Well this ID thing wouldn't have stopped the fraud in this example. So I'm not sure it's really supposed to stop fraud. Maybe it has some other purpose.

 

[Mousterian]

Thought I'd resurrect this fake news thread, with a story about N Carolina, where REAL voter fraud has been uncovered...
But it's from NPR, and I suppose they're among the 'Enemy of the People'?
Amid Fraud Allegations, North Carolina Election Board Won't Certify House Race

 

[bripat9643]

Thought I'd resurrect this fake news thread, with a story about N Carolina, where REAL voter fraud has been uncovered...
But it's from NPR, and I suppose they're among the 'Enemy of the People'?
Amid Fraud Allegations, North Carolina Election Board Won't Certify House Race

Orange County Releases Official Vote Count And The Numbers Don’t Add Up – One Precinct Has 120% Turnout - Tea Party News

 

[rightwinger]

The Lbiturds keep saying voter fraud is negligible. Do you think 35,000 fraudulent votes is negligible? How about 155,000? How about 81 dead people voting?

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/04/0...-discovered-in-north-carolinas-2012-election/

The North Carolina State Board of Elections has found thousands of instances of voter fraud in the state, thanks to a 28-state crosscheck of voter rolls. Initial findings suggest widespread election fraud.

• 
  
  
  • 765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
  • 35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
  • 155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state &#8211; and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.

The second point is key, as double voting is election fraud under state and federal statutes. Punishment for double voting in federal elections can include jail time.

In October 2012, Project Veritas produced video showing a Barack Obama campaign worker helping a voter register to vote in both Texas and Florida.

The Interstate Crosscheck examines 101 million voter records in more than two dozen participating states.

The findings, while large, leave open the question of just how widespread double voting might be since 22 states did not participate in the Interstate Crosscheck.

In addition to the above, the crosscheck found that more than 13,000 deceased voters remain on North Carolina&#8217;s rolls, and that 81 of them showed voter activity in their records after death.

North Carolina officials are now calling for tighter election security.​

This is what actual voter fraud looks like

But it is REPUBLI CAN fraud

And voter ID would do nothing to stop it

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Thought I'd resurrect this fake news thread, with a story about N Carolina, where REAL voter fraud has been uncovered...
But it's from NPR, and I suppose they're among the 'Enemy of the People'?
Amid Fraud Allegations, North Carolina Election Board Won't Certify House Race

Orange County Releases Official Vote Count And The Numbers Don’t Add Up – One Precinct Has 120% Turnout - Tea Party News

So, people voted in the wrong precinct. Happens all the time.

 

[rightwinger]

NC looks like blatant fraud in forcing people to absentee vote and then stealing their ballot

 

[bripat9643]

The Lbiturds keep saying voter fraud is negligible. Do you think 35,000 fraudulent votes is negligible? How about 155,000? How about 81 dead people voting?

Massive Voter Fraud Discovered in North Carolina's 2012 Election

The North Carolina State Board of Elections has found thousands of instances of voter fraud in the state, thanks to a 28-state crosscheck of voter rolls. Initial findings suggest widespread election fraud.

• 
  
  
  • 765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
  • 35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
  • 155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state &#8211; and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.

The second point is key, as double voting is election fraud under state and federal statutes. Punishment for double voting in federal elections can include jail time.

In October 2012, Project Veritas produced video showing a Barack Obama campaign worker helping a voter register to vote in both Texas and Florida.

The Interstate Crosscheck examines 101 million voter records in more than two dozen participating states.

The findings, while large, leave open the question of just how widespread double voting might be since 22 states did not participate in the Interstate Crosscheck.

In addition to the above, the crosscheck found that more than 13,000 deceased voters remain on North Carolina&#8217;s rolls, and that 81 of them showed voter activity in their records after death.

North Carolina officials are now calling for tighter election security.​

This is what actual voter fraud looks like

But it is REPUBLI CAN fraud

And voter ID would do nothing to stop it

Vote harvesting is where all the extra votes came from.

 

[bripat9643]

NC looks like blatant fraud in forcing people to absentee vote and then stealing their ballot

"Blatant fraud" would be have a 120% turnout of registered voters.

 

[Skylar]

The Lbiturds keep saying voter fraud is negligible. Do you think 35,000 fraudulent votes is negligible? How about 155,000? How about 81 dead people voting?

Massive Voter Fraud Discovered in North Carolina's 2012 Election

The North Carolina State Board of Elections has found thousands of instances of voter fraud in the state, thanks to a 28-state crosscheck of voter rolls. Initial findings suggest widespread election fraud.

• 
  
  
  • 765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
  • 35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
  • 155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state &#8211; and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.

The second point is key, as double voting is election fraud under state and federal statutes. Punishment for double voting in federal elections can include jail time.

In October 2012, Project Veritas produced video showing a Barack Obama campaign worker helping a voter register to vote in both Texas and Florida.

The Interstate Crosscheck examines 101 million voter records in more than two dozen participating states.

The findings, while large, leave open the question of just how widespread double voting might be since 22 states did not participate in the Interstate Crosscheck.

In addition to the above, the crosscheck found that more than 13,000 deceased voters remain on North Carolina&#8217;s rolls, and that 81 of them showed voter activity in their records after death.

North Carolina officials are now calling for tighter election security.​

And what, pray tell...would Voter ID done with any of those?

 

[Skylar]

NC looks like blatant fraud in forcing people to absentee vote and then stealing their ballot

"Blatant fraud" would be have a 120% turnout of registered voters.

And where did this happen specifically?