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‘Karen and Mike Pence are conservative, evangelical Christians who share beliefs about religion and politics. They have every right to do this. ("It's absurd that her decision to teach art to children at a Christian school, and the school's religious beliefs, are under attack," said Kara Brooks, a spokeswoman for Pence.) But consider Mike Pence's position of power in this country: He regularly stands shoulder to shoulder with his boss, Donald Trump. He has access to and can influence a President who is very interested in maintaining support among evangelicals.
For all their professed beliefs, Pence, and his wife, show unwavering support for a man who has been married three times, divorced twice, has had five children with three women and who has been accused of (though denies) paying a porn star and a Playboy model hundreds of thousands of dollars to conceal affairs he'd had with them.
The hypocrisy here, and indeed from white evangelical Trump supporters, is astonishing.’
Mike Pence and Karen Pence show astonishing moral hypocrisy (opinion) - CNN
Pence and his wife are at liberty to be ignorant, hateful bigots, just as the majority of the American people and the press are at liberty to condemn that ignorance, hatred, hypocrisy, and bigotry and acknowledge the fact that such Christian ‘values’ are in clear conflict with American values, and are considered to be repugnant to most Americans.
If you knew anything about Christians other than how to hate them and spout ridiculous garbage about how they "should" practice beliefs you don't even share, you would know that nothing about Christianity requires them to judge and shun other people for their mistakes for the rest of their lives. It's amazing how hypocritically jackwads like you want to screech and holler about Christians being "judgemental", and THEN holler when they aren't as judgemental as you would be if you embraced any morality at all.
No, you stupiid woman, it is YOU who knows nothing about Christians. We're not a homogenized group where everyone believes the same things. Since 67% of Americans approve of gay marriage, and 70% of Americans identify as "Christian", it is apparent to all but the most hopelessly stupid that a majority of Christians are not prejudiced and bigoted against gays, and that the position that the Pence have taken in this matter is not a "Christian" position as all since it's not shared by even a majority of Christians, but rather by a small subset of radicial right wing evangelical Christians who are out of touch with mainstream America.
Poll: Approval of same-sex marriage in U.S. reaches new high
Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics
So stop trying to pretend that our aversion to Mrs. Pence supporting radical right wing religious bigotry is somehow "anti-Christian" or unAmerican. It is the Pence's who are out of step with reality, not the rest of us.
It's still a private Christian school.
The issue isn't whether it's a private Christian school, and entitled by law to enclude anyone they consider "unsuitable", but whether the wife of the Vice-President of the United States should be working for an institution which displays such gross disrespect for the way Jesus lived his life, and the principles of equality and fairness to all Americans as enshrined in the Constitution.
Mrs. Pence is and should be held to a higher standard, than your run of the mill right wing bigot.
So, you would be happy if she just quit the job? Is that what it would take to resolve your issue? If not then what would it take?
The flip side of your argument is she is being held to a higher standard. It just so happens that it isn't a standard that you identify with. That is ok. The best that can be achieved is that it is a private Christian school.
If you knew anything about Christians other than how to hate them and spout ridiculous garbage about how they "should" practice beliefs you don't even share, you would know that nothing about Christianity requires them to judge and shun other people for their mistakes for the rest of their lives. It's amazing how hypocritically jackwads like you want to screech and holler about Christians being "judgemental", and THEN holler when they aren't as judgemental as you would be if you embraced any morality at all.
No, you stupiid woman, it is YOU who knows nothing about Christians. We're not a homogenized group where everyone believes the same things. Since 67% of Americans approve of gay marriage, and 70% of Americans identify as "Christian", it is apparent to all but the most hopelessly stupid that a majority of Christians are not prejudiced and bigoted against gays, and that the position that the Pence have taken in this matter is not a "Christian" position as all since it's not shared by even a majority of Christians, but rather by a small subset of radicial right wing evangelical Christians who are out of touch with mainstream America.
Poll: Approval of same-sex marriage in U.S. reaches new high
Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics
So stop trying to pretend that our aversion to Mrs. Pence supporting radical right wing religious bigotry is somehow "anti-Christian" or unAmerican. It is the Pence's who are out of step with reality, not the rest of us.
It's still a private Christian school.
The issue isn't whether it's a private Christian school, and entitled by law to enclude anyone they consider "unsuitable", but whether the wife of the Vice-President of the United States should be working for an institution which displays such gross disrespect for the way Jesus lived his life, and the principles of equality and fairness to all Americans as enshrined in the Constitution.
Mrs. Pence is and should be held to a higher standard, than your run of the mill right wing bigot.
So, you would be happy if she just quit the job? Is that what it would take to resolve your issue? If not then what would it take?
The flip side of your argument is she is being held to a higher standard. It just so happens that it isn't a standard that you identify with. That is ok. The best that can be achieved is that it is a private Christian school.
The wife of the Vice President of the United States supports bigotry and intolerance. That's not a good message for a public servant and his family. A lot of gay people pay taxes to keep the Pences in their Washington mansion. She should show more respect for the voters.
The wife of the Vice President of the United States supports bigotry and intolerance. That's not a good message for a public servant and his family. A lot of gay people pay taxes to keep the Pences in their Washington mansion. She should show more respect for the voters.
The issue is: is being an ignorant, hateful bigot indeed ‘Christian’ – to the extent that gay and transgender Americans (most of whom are Christian) are to be demonized and excluded.I still don't see what the issue is.Anyway, as I was saying, is this not exactly what the left has been demanding and harping on since forever? They keep insisting that they aren't attacking Christianity, they have no interest in suppressing Christianity. How many times have we heard this meme? "I just don't want the Bible shoved down my throat. Keep your religion to yourself, and we're fine."
Leaving aside arguments about how demanding self-censorship IS suppressing Christianity, are Karen Pence and Imanuel Christian not doing exactly what the left vehemently insists is "all they want"? They are not espousing their beliefs in a public school, or anywhere that receives any sort of public funds. They're a private school, on their own private property, and no one is being forced to hear or live with their beliefs who does not agree with them. Indeed, they are encouraging people who don't agree with them to not be there.
Is this not what the Left told us was "all they wanted"? And yet they're still pitching a media pissy fit over it. It's almost as though they've been lying all this time, or something.
That the Vice President of the United States buys into this hate and bigotry is indeed newsworthy.
And it’s not a matter of the press being ‘surprised’ that Christian schools are ‘Christian,’ rather, it’s the press documenting the fact that for a school to propagate such hatred and bigotry behind the façade of religious dogma is wrong and reprehensible, and clearly in conflict with American values.
Yeah nothing says religion of love like banning people that are hated..Yet these same people cry if forced to buy birth control.So this was the outrage du jour for my sister, the family's token leftist:
Karen Pence Works at School That Bans Gay Employees and Students
Apparently, this is a big, shocking story worthy of much coverage:
Karen Pence to teach at school that bans LGBTQ employees, students
Karen Pence Is Working At A School That Bans LGBTQ Employees And Kids | HuffPost
The school that hired Karen Pence requires applicants to disavow gay marriage, trans identity
Why this is such a bombshell is anyone's guess. To quote Matt Walsh, the media seems to "discover" that the Pences are Christians every two months or so, and they're shocked and outraged every time.
I'm not entirely certain what the problem is here. Obviously, given that they all basically used the same headline, they're up in arms yet again about Christians stubbornly insisting that "alternative" sexual behavior is not okay, in direct contradiction to the CLEAR dictates of the left. I'm just not sure if they're demanding that Christian private schools should endorse behavior they don't agree with, or if they're demanding that the Vice President's wife should have to get a job in a place she doesn't agree with.
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Catholic high school students in 'MAGA' hats mock Native American after D.C. rally, could face expulsion
FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Students at a Kentucky Catholic school who were involved in a video showing them mocking Native Americans outside the Lincoln Memorial after a Washington rally could potentially face expulsion, according to the diocese.
If you knew anything about Christians other than how to hate them and spout ridiculous garbage about how they "should" practice beliefs you don't even share, you would know that nothing about Christianity requires them to judge and shun other people for their mistakes for the rest of their lives.
could potentially face expulsion, according to the diocese.
it is cecil and the posters in this thread that misrepresent the true religion by their manufactured document to continue the uninterrupted degradation recorded through history without the slightest amount of remorse.
what people do not realize is christianity has nothing to do with the timeperiod of recorded history their false religion claims to represent but is a fabrication written during the 4th century that culminated in a political document void of the principles for the 1st century's tragic conclusion to the extent of being the exact opposite in reality that persecutes and victimizes the very people that time period was dedicated to.
‘Karen and Mike Pence are conservative, evangelical Christians who share beliefs about religion and politics. They have every right to do this. ("It's absurd that her decision to teach art to children at a Christian school, and the school's religious beliefs, are under attack," said Kara Brooks, a spokeswoman for Pence.) But consider Mike Pence's position of power in this country: He regularly stands shoulder to shoulder with his boss, Donald Trump. He has access to and can influence a President who is very interested in maintaining support among evangelicals.So this was the outrage du jour for my sister, the family's token leftist:
Karen Pence Works at School That Bans Gay Employees and Students
Apparently, this is a big, shocking story worthy of much coverage:
Karen Pence to teach at school that bans LGBTQ employees, students
Karen Pence Is Working At A School That Bans LGBTQ Employees And Kids | HuffPost
The school that hired Karen Pence requires applicants to disavow gay marriage, trans identity
Why this is such a bombshell is anyone's guess. To quote Matt Walsh, the media seems to "discover" that the Pences are Christians every two months or so, and they're shocked and outraged every time.
I'm not entirely certain what the problem is here. Obviously, given that they all basically used the same headline, they're up in arms yet again about Christians stubbornly insisting that "alternative" sexual behavior is not okay, in direct contradiction to the CLEAR dictates of the left. I'm just not sure if they're demanding that Christian private schools should endorse behavior they don't agree with, or if they're demanding that the Vice President's wife should have to get a job in a place she doesn't agree with.
For all their professed beliefs, Pence, and his wife, show unwavering support for a man who has been married three times, divorced twice, has had five children with three women and who has been accused of (though denies) paying a porn star and a Playboy model hundreds of thousands of dollars to conceal affairs he'd had with them.
The hypocrisy here, and indeed from white evangelical Trump supporters, is astonishing.’
Mike Pence and Karen Pence show astonishing moral hypocrisy (opinion) - CNN
Pence and his wife are at liberty to be ignorant, hateful bigots, just as the majority of the American people and the press are at liberty to condemn that ignorance, hatred, hypocrisy, and bigotry and acknowledge the fact that such Christian ‘values’ are in clear conflict with American values, and are considered to be repugnant to most Americans.
If you knew anything about Christians other than how to hate them and spout ridiculous garbage about how they "should" practice beliefs you don't even share, you would know that nothing about Christianity requires them to judge and shun other people for their mistakes for the rest of their lives. It's amazing how hypocritically jackwads like you want to screech and holler about Christians being "judgemental", and THEN holler when they aren't as judgemental as you would be if you embraced any morality at all.
No, you stupiid woman, it is YOU who knows nothing about Christians. We're not a homogenized group where everyone believes the same things. Since 67% of Americans approve of gay marriage, and 70% of Americans identify as "Christian", it is apparent to all but the most hopelessly stupid that a majority of Christians are not prejudiced and bigoted against gays, and that the position that the Pence have taken in this matter is not a "Christian" position as all since it's not shared by even a majority of Christians, but rather by a small subset of radicial right wing evangelical Christians who are out of touch with mainstream America.
Poll: Approval of same-sex marriage in U.S. reaches new high
Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics
So stop trying to pretend that our aversion to Mrs. Pence supporting radical right wing religious bigotry is somehow "anti-Christian" or unAmerican. It is the Pence's who are out of step with reality, not the rest of us.
‘Karen and Mike Pence are conservative, evangelical Christians who share beliefs about religion and politics. They have every right to do this. ("It's absurd that her decision to teach art to children at a Christian school, and the school's religious beliefs, are under attack," said Kara Brooks, a spokeswoman for Pence.) But consider Mike Pence's position of power in this country: He regularly stands shoulder to shoulder with his boss, Donald Trump. He has access to and can influence a President who is very interested in maintaining support among evangelicals.So this was the outrage du jour for my sister, the family's token leftist:
Karen Pence Works at School That Bans Gay Employees and Students
Apparently, this is a big, shocking story worthy of much coverage:
Karen Pence to teach at school that bans LGBTQ employees, students
Karen Pence Is Working At A School That Bans LGBTQ Employees And Kids | HuffPost
The school that hired Karen Pence requires applicants to disavow gay marriage, trans identity
Why this is such a bombshell is anyone's guess. To quote Matt Walsh, the media seems to "discover" that the Pences are Christians every two months or so, and they're shocked and outraged every time.
I'm not entirely certain what the problem is here. Obviously, given that they all basically used the same headline, they're up in arms yet again about Christians stubbornly insisting that "alternative" sexual behavior is not okay, in direct contradiction to the CLEAR dictates of the left. I'm just not sure if they're demanding that Christian private schools should endorse behavior they don't agree with, or if they're demanding that the Vice President's wife should have to get a job in a place she doesn't agree with.
For all their professed beliefs, Pence, and his wife, show unwavering support for a man who has been married three times, divorced twice, has had five children with three women and who has been accused of (though denies) paying a porn star and a Playboy model hundreds of thousands of dollars to conceal affairs he'd had with them.
The hypocrisy here, and indeed from white evangelical Trump supporters, is astonishing.’
Mike Pence and Karen Pence show astonishing moral hypocrisy (opinion) - CNN
Pence and his wife are at liberty to be ignorant, hateful bigots, just as the majority of the American people and the press are at liberty to condemn that ignorance, hatred, hypocrisy, and bigotry and acknowledge the fact that such Christian ‘values’ are in clear conflict with American values, and are considered to be repugnant to most Americans.
If you knew anything about Christians other than how to hate them and spout ridiculous garbage about how they "should" practice beliefs you don't even share, you would know that nothing about Christianity requires them to judge and shun other people for their mistakes for the rest of their lives. It's amazing how hypocritically jackwads like you want to screech and holler about Christians being "judgemental", and THEN holler when they aren't as judgemental as you would be if you embraced any morality at all.
No, you stupiid woman, it is YOU who knows nothing about Christians. We're not a homogenized group where everyone believes the same things. Since 67% of Americans approve of gay marriage, and 70% of Americans identify as "Christian", it is apparent to all but the most hopelessly stupid that a majority of Christians are not prejudiced and bigoted against gays, and that the position that the Pence have taken in this matter is not a "Christian" position as all since it's not shared by even a majority of Christians, but rather by a small subset of radicial right wing evangelical Christians who are out of touch with mainstream America.
Poll: Approval of same-sex marriage in U.S. reaches new high
Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics
So stop trying to pretend that our aversion to Mrs. Pence supporting radical right wing religious bigotry is somehow "anti-Christian" or unAmerican. It is the Pence's who are out of step with reality, not the rest of us.
It's still a private Christian school.
The issue isn't whether it's a private Christian school, and entitled by law to enclude anyone they consider "unsuitable", but whether the wife of the Vice-President of the United States should be working for an institution which displays such gross disrespect for the way Jesus lived his life, and the principles of equality and fairness to all Americans as enshrined in the Constitution.
Mrs. Pence is and should be held to a higher standard, than your run of the mill right wing bigot.
The wife of the Vice President of the United States supports bigotry and intolerance. That's not a good message for a public servant and his family. A lot of gay people pay taxes to keep the Pences in their Washington mansion. She should show more respect for the voters.
A major reason why Mr. Trump was elected, and why Karen Pense's husband is now the Vice-President, is that mainstream Americans are, in large part, sick and tired of being told over and over again byleftwrong-wing filth such as you that our religious faith and our moral standards are “bigotry and intolerance”, while you openly promote perversion, immorality and madness as if they were virtues.
I hope DemocRATs continue to run with this message. May it produce the same results in 2020 that it did in 2016.
Think about this. Would anyone sign up for an art class to learn dance? Go to a hair salon to go swimming? Christian schools teach sexual discipline, no sex outside of marriage along with avoidance of homosexual acts, etc. If I want my children to feel free to have premarital sex and to experiment with homosexuality, then the school I choose for them will not be a Christian school. I would expect people to respect my choice; therefore, I respect their choice.Yeah nothing says religion of love like banning people that are hated..Yet these same people cry if forced to buy birth control.
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Catholic high school students in 'MAGA' hats mock Native American after D.C. rally, could face expulsion
FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Students at a Kentucky Catholic school who were involved in a video showing them mocking Native Americans outside the Lincoln Memorial after a Washington rally could potentially face expulsion, according to the diocese.
If you knew anything about Christians other than how to hate them and spout ridiculous garbage about how they "should" practice beliefs you don't even share, you would know that nothing about Christianity requires them to judge and shun other people for their mistakes for the rest of their lives.
could potentially face expulsion, according to the diocese.
it is cecil and the posters in this thread that misrepresent the true religion by their manufactured document to continue the uninterrupted degradation recorded through history without the slightest amount of remorse.
what people do not realize is christianity has nothing to do with the timeperiod of recorded history their false religion claims to represent but is a fabrication written during the 4th century that culminated in a political document void of the principles for the 1st century's tragic conclusion to the extent of being the exact opposite in reality that persecutes and victimizes the very people that time period was dedicated to.
Ahhh, yes. More of what you "know" about Christians from "news sources" who blatantly feed you lies that you eat up with a spoon.
If you watch the longer, uncut version of the video (which is mysteriously being pulled from Internet sites as fast as people can post it), you see that the story is the complete reverse of Mr. Philips' claims, and it was actually the kids being harassed.
Oooh, does it sting to be wrong yet again?
Ahhh, yes. More of what you "know" about Christians from "news sources" who blatantly feed you lies that you eat up with a spoon.
Kentucky Catholic school to investigate taunting of Native Americans
The Latest: Diocese apologizes for students’ actions
"We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general, Jan. 18, after the March for Life, in Washington, D.C.," the diocese's statement reads. "We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips. This behavior is opposed to the Church's teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person."
So gays are loved yet banned because they are deemed an abomination..And let those without sin cast the first stone..Think about this. Would anyone sign up for an art class to learn dance? Go to a hair salon to go swimming? Christian schools teach sexual discipline, no sex outside of marriage along with avoidance of homosexual acts, etc. If I want my children to feel free to have premarital sex and to experiment with homosexuality, then the school I choose for them will not be a Christian school. I would expect people to respect my choice; therefore, I respect their choice.Yeah nothing says religion of love like banning people that are hated..Yet these same people cry if forced to buy birth control.
Also, you begin with a fallacy that homosexuals are hated. That would be similar to declaring students who sign up for a painting class hate dancers on the basis that dancing is not allowed in paint class. Or, that dance instructors are discriminated against because no one hires them to teach oil painting.
Is this how the school phrases it?So gays are loved yet banned because they are deemed an abomination..
Yeah nothing says religion of love like banning people that are hated..Yet these same people cry if forced to buy birth control.So this was the outrage du jour for my sister, the family's token leftist:
Karen Pence Works at School That Bans Gay Employees and Students
Apparently, this is a big, shocking story worthy of much coverage:
Karen Pence to teach at school that bans LGBTQ employees, students
Karen Pence Is Working At A School That Bans LGBTQ Employees And Kids | HuffPost
The school that hired Karen Pence requires applicants to disavow gay marriage, trans identity
Why this is such a bombshell is anyone's guess. To quote Matt Walsh, the media seems to "discover" that the Pences are Christians every two months or so, and they're shocked and outraged every time.
I'm not entirely certain what the problem is here. Obviously, given that they all basically used the same headline, they're up in arms yet again about Christians stubbornly insisting that "alternative" sexual behavior is not okay, in direct contradiction to the CLEAR dictates of the left. I'm just not sure if they're demanding that Christian private schools should endorse behavior they don't agree with, or if they're demanding that the Vice President's wife should have to get a job in a place she doesn't agree with.
.EarthLink - News
Catholic high school students in 'MAGA' hats mock Native American after D.C. rally, could face expulsion
FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Students at a Kentucky Catholic school who were involved in a video showing them mocking Native Americans outside the Lincoln Memorial after a Washington rally could potentially face expulsion, according to the diocese.
If you knew anything about Christians other than how to hate them and spout ridiculous garbage about how they "should" practice beliefs you don't even share, you would know that nothing about Christianity requires them to judge and shun other people for their mistakes for the rest of their lives.
could potentially face expulsion, according to the diocese.
it is cecil and the posters in this thread that misrepresent the true religion by their manufactured document to continue the uninterrupted degradation recorded through history without the slightest amount of remorse.
what people do not realize is christianity has nothing to do with the timeperiod of recorded history their false religion claims to represent but is a fabrication written during the 4th century that culminated in a political document void of the principles for the 1st century's tragic conclusion to the extent of being the exact opposite in reality that persecutes and victimizes the very people that time period was dedicated to.
Ahhh, yes. More of what you "know" about Christians from "news sources" who blatantly feed you lies that you eat up with a spoon.
If you watch the longer, uncut version of the video (which is mysteriously being pulled from Internet sites as fast as people can post it), you see that the story is the complete reverse of Mr. Philips' claims, and it was actually the kids being harassed.
Oooh, does it sting to be wrong yet again?
Ahhh, yes. More of what you "know" about Christians from "news sources" who blatantly feed you lies that you eat up with a spoon.
Kentucky Catholic school to investigate taunting of Native Americans
The Latest: Diocese apologizes for students’ actions
"We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general, Jan. 18, after the March for Life, in Washington, D.C.," the diocese's statement reads. "We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips. This behavior is opposed to the Church's teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person."
the truth is the christians were demonstrating at the same event for their specific agenda then displayed their intolerance for people with a similar purpose of grievance they hadn't the least understanding for without provocation simply to exert their own singlemindedness. and were caught redhanded in the act - ergo, the apology.
what has been the 4th century christian mantra for their entire recorded history. (without the apology when not brought to the public attention) - such as what is taught in their "private" schools.
the exact opposite of the events of the 1st century. with or without a messenger.
So gays are loved yet banned because they are deemed an abomination..And let those without sin cast the first stone..Think about this. Would anyone sign up for an art class to learn dance? Go to a hair salon to go swimming? Christian schools teach sexual discipline, no sex outside of marriage along with avoidance of homosexual acts, etc. If I want my children to feel free to have premarital sex and to experiment with homosexuality, then the school I choose for them will not be a Christian school. I would expect people to respect my choice; therefore, I respect their choice.Yeah nothing says religion of love like banning people that are hated..Yet these same people cry if forced to buy birth control.
Also, you begin with a fallacy that homosexuals are hated. That would be similar to declaring students who sign up for a painting class hate dancers on the basis that dancing is not allowed in paint class. Or, that dance instructors are discriminated against because no one hires them to teach oil painting.
I am pretty sure that mostly all kids are told not to have sex period..Doesn't mean they will follow their advice because emotions, glands and curiosity get the better of them...
Odd that you are tired of being told something that your actions confirm are true.......The wife of the Vice President of the United States supports bigotry and intolerance. That's not a good message for a public servant and his family. A lot of gay people pay taxes to keep the Pences in their Washington mansion. She should show more respect for the voters.
A major reason why Mr. Trump was elected, and why Karen Pense's husband is now the Vice-President, is that mainstream Americans are, in large part, sick and tired of being told over and over again byleftwrong-wing filth such as you that our religious faith and our moral standards are “bigotry and intolerance”, while you openly promote perversion, immorality and madness as if they were virtues.
I hope DemocRATs continue to run with this message. May it produce the same results in 2020 that it did in 2016.
‘Karen and Mike Pence are conservative, evangelical Christians who share beliefs about religion and politics. They have every right to do this. ("It's absurd that her decision to teach art to children at a Christian school, and the school's religious beliefs, are under attack," said Kara Brooks, a spokeswoman for Pence.) But consider Mike Pence's position of power in this country: He regularly stands shoulder to shoulder with his boss, Donald Trump. He has access to and can influence a President who is very interested in maintaining support among evangelicals.
For all their professed beliefs, Pence, and his wife, show unwavering support for a man who has been married three times, divorced twice, has had five children with three women and who has been accused of (though denies) paying a porn star and a Playboy model hundreds of thousands of dollars to conceal affairs he'd had with them.
The hypocrisy here, and indeed from white evangelical Trump supporters, is astonishing.’
Mike Pence and Karen Pence show astonishing moral hypocrisy (opinion) - CNN
Pence and his wife are at liberty to be ignorant, hateful bigots, just as the majority of the American people and the press are at liberty to condemn that ignorance, hatred, hypocrisy, and bigotry and acknowledge the fact that such Christian ‘values’ are in clear conflict with American values, and are considered to be repugnant to most Americans.
If you knew anything about Christians other than how to hate them and spout ridiculous garbage about how they "should" practice beliefs you don't even share, you would know that nothing about Christianity requires them to judge and shun other people for their mistakes for the rest of their lives. It's amazing how hypocritically jackwads like you want to screech and holler about Christians being "judgemental", and THEN holler when they aren't as judgemental as you would be if you embraced any morality at all.
No, you stupiid woman, it is YOU who knows nothing about Christians. We're not a homogenized group where everyone believes the same things. Since 67% of Americans approve of gay marriage, and 70% of Americans identify as "Christian", it is apparent to all but the most hopelessly stupid that a majority of Christians are not prejudiced and bigoted against gays, and that the position that the Pence have taken in this matter is not a "Christian" position as all since it's not shared by even a majority of Christians, but rather by a small subset of radicial right wing evangelical Christians who are out of touch with mainstream America.
Poll: Approval of same-sex marriage in U.S. reaches new high
Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics
So stop trying to pretend that our aversion to Mrs. Pence supporting radical right wing religious bigotry is somehow "anti-Christian" or unAmerican. It is the Pence's who are out of step with reality, not the rest of us.
It's still a private Christian school.
The issue isn't whether it's a private Christian school, and entitled by law to enclude anyone they consider "unsuitable", but whether the wife of the Vice-President of the United States should be working for an institution which displays such gross disrespect for the way Jesus lived his life, and the principles of equality and fairness to all Americans as enshrined in the Constitution.
Mrs. Pence is and should be held to a higher standard, than your run of the mill right wing bigot.
So, you would be happy if she just quit the job? Is that what it would take to resolve your issue? If not then what would it take?
The flip side of your argument is she is being held to a higher standard. It just so happens that it isn't a standard that you identify with. That is ok. The best that can be achieved is that it is a private Christian school.
.could potentially face expulsion, according to the diocese.
it is cecil and the posters in this thread that misrepresent the true religion by their manufactured document to continue the uninterrupted degradation recorded through history without the slightest amount of remorse.
What do these posters need to do regarding their religion that will make you happy? What type of remorse do you need to see and for what specific crimes?
Surely you have an end.
What type of remorse do you need to see and for what specific crimes?
A teen at the center of a video confrontation with a Native American organizer of a march in Washington, D.C., says he did nothing to provoke anyone and sought to calm the situation.
A Catholic diocese in Kentucky is condemning the actions of some students from its all-male high school mocking a Native American man after a rally in Washington.
In a joint statement to the Cincinnati Enquirer , the Roman Catholic Diocese of Covington and Covington Catholic High School apologized to Nathan Phillips, an Omaha elder and Vietnam veteran who attended the Indigenous Peoples March in Washington on Friday. The march coincided with the annual March for Life, an anti-abortion rally attended by some students at Covington Catholic High School in northern Kentucky.
Sandman says the students began yelling "school spirit chants" to drown out the protesters ... an Omaha elder and Vietnam veteran who attended the Indigenous Peoples March in Washington on Friday.
do you ever read the post, disir or just appease the christians with your apologistic, apostolic rhetoric. -
a timely example of a christian academy ... time will play out the truth.
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If you knew anything about Christians other than how to hate them and spout ridiculous garbage about how they "should" practice beliefs you don't even share, you would know that nothing about Christianity requires them to judge and shun other people for their mistakes for the rest of their lives. It's amazing how hypocritically jackwads like you want to screech and holler about Christians being "judgemental", and THEN holler when they aren't as judgemental as you would be if you embraced any morality at all.
No, you stupiid woman, it is YOU who knows nothing about Christians. We're not a homogenized group where everyone believes the same things. Since 67% of Americans approve of gay marriage, and 70% of Americans identify as "Christian", it is apparent to all but the most hopelessly stupid that a majority of Christians are not prejudiced and bigoted against gays, and that the position that the Pence have taken in this matter is not a "Christian" position as all since it's not shared by even a majority of Christians, but rather by a small subset of radicial right wing evangelical Christians who are out of touch with mainstream America.
Poll: Approval of same-sex marriage in U.S. reaches new high
Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics
So stop trying to pretend that our aversion to Mrs. Pence supporting radical right wing religious bigotry is somehow "anti-Christian" or unAmerican. It is the Pence's who are out of step with reality, not the rest of us.
It's still a private Christian school.
The issue isn't whether it's a private Christian school, and entitled by law to enclude anyone they consider "unsuitable", but whether the wife of the Vice-President of the United States should be working for an institution which displays such gross disrespect for the way Jesus lived his life, and the principles of equality and fairness to all Americans as enshrined in the Constitution.
Mrs. Pence is and should be held to a higher standard, than your run of the mill right wing bigot.
So, you would be happy if she just quit the job? Is that what it would take to resolve your issue? If not then what would it take?
The flip side of your argument is she is being held to a higher standard. It just so happens that it isn't a standard that you identify with. That is ok. The best that can be achieved is that it is a private Christian school.
The wife of the Vice President of the United States supports bigotry and intolerance. That's not a good message for a public servant and his family. A lot of gay people pay taxes to keep the Pences in their Washington mansion. She should show more respect for the voters.
