Meet the militia

[Quantum Windbag]

Meet The Militia Rushing To Cliven Bundy's Defense | ThinkProgress

......The militia movement is back, it is here in force and they seem to be roving the country looking for opportunities like this to make themselves known.....

..... I love this country. Love it. Top to bottom. When I say the pledge of allegiance, I mean it......

These people live in LaLa Land. Really. Its all just a huge fantasy for them. They break the law in order to defend a fellow criminal, put women out in front to take the gunfire and pretend its all because they love the country they say they don't recognize.

And they are frightened little bunny rabbits.

..... I think it is time for all of you to Join the Militia! Look what is happening at The Bundy Ranch in NV. That could happen here next! .....

I've asked this before but -

Not all of these people are on welfare. Some actually have to earn a living and will eventually have to go home and pay their bills.

What happens when Bundy doesn't have all those women surrounding him?

More scare mongering from Pink Progress, who'da thunk it?

Tell me something, how many shots were fired in the Bundy standoff? Why are BLM agents armed in the first fucking place? What percentage of the "militia" that responded to the government's attempt to seize private property were actually armed? Why is your "article" citing an SPLC report from 5 years ago instead of the more up to date one that they released this year? Is the "reporter" who wrote that story unaware of the fact that they publish that report every year, or is he hoping that his readers are? Either way, why should I trust anything she has to say?

These are the kind of questions that are asked by honest people when they see tripe like this, dishonest people simply post the link and then pretend that anyone who disagrees with them is an ignorant hack.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

well here comes the government stooges to the rescue...

smear their fellow country men and women..it's the nothinkingrequiredprogress way

as we see some people will eat it up and they want you to believe "we the people" are enemy's of the state

wake up folks

Typical knee jerk reaction from Staph because, as usual, its uninformed.

Read the article.

I did, which is why I know it is full of shit and you have no ability to think.

 

[R.C. Christian]

But, as you know, as they know, Obama has nothing at all to do with this. Bundy started it long before Obama was elected.

But, I s'pose its possible the chronic malcontents, er, uh, militia could take turns putting women and children in danger in order to aid and abet a criminal. But for how long? How long can this criminal continue to break the law that his hero passed by executive order?

Luddly is OBVIOUSLY scared to death (no pun intended) of law-abiding citizens with firearms.

Have you ever even TOUCHED a firearm, Luddly? And no, slingshots and squirt guns don't count.

So at what point in your life did you decide that inanimate objects have the ability to kill people, Luddly?

At what point did you deduce that criminals and other lawbreakers are NOT responsible for their actions, and it's GUNS that kill people, not BAD people who kill GOOD people.

If an armed intruder broke into your home, what would you do, Luddly? Grab a steak knife and try to TALK the intruder into submission? Maybe bend over and offer yourself to the intruder, in exchange for your life?

You're a SHAMEFUL, SHALLOW, and SOUL-LESS human being, Luddly. Your kind will NEVER prevail, at least not for long.

I AM a law-abiding citizen who owns guns.

I have had the experience of having an intruder break into my home and he ended up dead.

That has no relevance to the domestic terrorists who stupidly think they're gonna take on the federal govt and win.

You really need to shut your insolent pie hole with this domestic terrorist bullshit.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I'd like to nominate Luddly for the honor of smartest person on this forum.



After moi, of course.

And, just to prove how intelligent both of you are, neither of you wondered why the "reporter" chose a report that is 5 fucking years old to make her point. Did you know that the latest "report" from SPLC says that militia groups are declining, and that proves that we need to do something about them? I do, does that make me dumber than either of you?

http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...oups-decline-but-remain-at-near-record-levels

 

[peach174]

But, as you know, as they know, Obama has nothing at all to do with this. Bundy started it long before Obama was elected.

But, I s'pose its possible the chronic malcontents, er, uh, militia could take turns putting women and children in danger in order to aid and abet a criminal. But for how long? How long can this criminal continue to break the law that his hero passed by executive order?

Luddly is OBVIOUSLY scared to death (no pun intended) of law-abiding citizens with firearms.

Have you ever even TOUCHED a firearm, Luddly? And no, slingshots and squirt guns don't count.

So at what point in your life did you decide that inanimate objects have the ability to kill people, Luddly?

At what point did you deduce that criminals and other lawbreakers are NOT responsible for their actions, and it's GUNS that kill people, not BAD people who kill GOOD people.

If an armed intruder broke into your home, what would you do, Luddly? Grab a steak knife and try to TALK the intruder into submission? Maybe bend over and offer yourself to the intruder, in exchange for your life?

You're a SHAMEFUL, SHALLOW, and SOUL-LESS human being, Luddly. Your kind will NEVER prevail, at least not for long.

I AM a law-abiding citizen who owns guns.

I have had the experience of having an intruder break into my home and he ended up dead.

That has no relevance to the domestic terrorists who stupidly think they're gonna take on the federal govt and win.

Ah, so I see you did not read my link about legal state militia's, yet you expect everyone to read yours.
They are not domestic terrorists just because Harry say's it.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

What law did they break?

Please keep in mind that I'm not the legal scholar that so many rw's are but this is the statue I believe applies. If I am incorrect, I hope someone will post the correct statute.

I've posted this before so for those who actually read info before making decisions, my apologies. This is for the idiots who refuse to educate themselves and probably won't read this anyway.

18 U.S. Code § 111 - Assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers or employees | LII / Legal Information Institute

18 U.S. Code § 111 - Assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers or employees

(a) In General.— Whoever—
(1) forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates, or interferes with any person designated in section 1114 of this title while engaged in or on account of the performance of official duties; or
(2) forcibly assaults or intimidates any person who formerly served as a person designated in section 1114 on account of the performance of official duties during such person’s term of service,
shall, where the acts in violation of this section constitute only simple assault, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both, and where such acts involve physical contact with the victim of that assault or the intent to commit another felony, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.
(b) Enhanced Penalty.— Whoever, in the commission of any acts described in subsection (a), uses a deadly or dangerous weapon (including a weapon intended to cause death or danger but that fails to do so by reason of a defective component) or inflicts bodily injury, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

They assaulted people? How many? How many were put in the hospital?

If we accept your interpretation of that law it would be a felony to call up a federal employee and ask them a question. Do you really want to argue that every single time a federal employee has to deal with the public it is a felony offense?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I'd like to nominate Luddly for the honor of smartest person on this forum.



After moi, of course.

No doubt the votes are pouring in.....

I voted for rdean.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Looks like none of the nutters actually READ the link.

That's why they're called The Party Of Stupid.

It looks like I did, and proved it was completely bogus. I guess that makes you the party of the lying sack of shit. Personally, I prefer stupid.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

But, as you know, as they know, Obama has nothing at all to do with this. Bundy started it long before Obama was elected.

But, I s'pose its possible the chronic malcontents, er, uh, militia could take turns putting women and children in danger in order to aid and abet a criminal. But for how long? How long can this criminal continue to break the law that his hero passed by executive order?

Luddly is OBVIOUSLY scared to death (no pun intended) of law-abiding citizens with firearms.

Have you ever even TOUCHED a firearm, Luddly? And no, slingshots and squirt guns don't count.

So at what point in your life did you decide that inanimate objects have the ability to kill people, Luddly?

At what point did you deduce that criminals and other lawbreakers are NOT responsible for their actions, and it's GUNS that kill people, not BAD people who kill GOOD people.

If an armed intruder broke into your home, what would you do, Luddly? Grab a steak knife and try to TALK the intruder into submission? Maybe bend over and offer yourself to the intruder, in exchange for your life?

You're a SHAMEFUL, SHALLOW, and SOUL-LESS human being, Luddly. Your kind will NEVER prevail, at least not for long.

I AM a law-abiding citizen who owns guns.

I have had the experience of having an intruder break into my home and he ended up dead.

That has no relevance to the domestic terrorists who stupidly think they're gonna take on the federal govt and win.

Was MLK a domestic terrorist?

 

[Stephanie]

Any lien would be against Bundy personally and would not run with the land like a mortgage. While the government MAY try to enforce a lien against him personally, the exemptions given to a person over 70 would preclude the government from ever getting anything from him personally. His personal debt could be enforced against his estate when he dies, as long as the estate itself is not tied up in some legal mechanism like a trust. Any lien unsatisfied in ten years will automatically expire.

The solution is to replace liberal law makers that do not practice the same kind of selective prosecution and put people like Bundy on the same footing as the drug dealers growing marijuana in the national forests and the tax absconding federal employees.

See? Toldja the rw's are legal scholars. Especially if good ole katzen is wearing his/her/its lawyer hat this week. Next week, he/she/it will ba a doctor. Or, maybe he/she/it will be back to bathing dirty dogs.

As to "... reduce the power of the federal government to where it was originally intended to be: almost nothing", it was Ronnie Ray-Gun who enacted, by Executive Order #12548, the act that Bundy agreed to abide by but has not.

Yes it is true. I closed a very successful law office to bathe dirty dogs. I was compelled to do so. I just got to hating liberals so much that it wasn't fair to represent them. They are evil people. Unworthy of the very air they breathe. The honesty of dogs was refreshing. It may be that liberals might object to being a lesser being than a dog abandoned in an alley. Too bad. They are worth less than the fleas on such dogs.

I'm about there how you're feeling..
more like this thread it won't be long

 

[R.C. Christian]

Luddly is OBVIOUSLY scared to death (no pun intended) of law-abiding citizens with firearms.

Have you ever even TOUCHED a firearm, Luddly? And no, slingshots and squirt guns don't count.

So at what point in your life did you decide that inanimate objects have the ability to kill people, Luddly?

At what point did you deduce that criminals and other lawbreakers are NOT responsible for their actions, and it's GUNS that kill people, not BAD people who kill GOOD people.

If an armed intruder broke into your home, what would you do, Luddly? Grab a steak knife and try to TALK the intruder into submission? Maybe bend over and offer yourself to the intruder, in exchange for your life?

You're a SHAMEFUL, SHALLOW, and SOUL-LESS human being, Luddly. Your kind will NEVER prevail, at least not for long.

I AM a law-abiding citizen who owns guns.

I have had the experience of having an intruder break into my home and he ended up dead.

That has no relevance to the domestic terrorists who stupidly think they're gonna take on the federal govt and win.

Was MLK a domestic terrorist?

If MLK was alive today he'd be cordoned into a free speech zone and surrounded by SWAT teams just waiting for an excuse to blow a hole through him and his supporters. Not because he is black but he threatens the members of the status quo.

 

[peach174]

Looks like none of the nutters actually READ the link.

That's why they're called The Party Of Stupid.

I did, but I bet you did not read my link.

Your link won't load so I ignored it. BUT going ONLY BY YOUR COMMENT, (a) that's AZ, (b) fed takes precedent over state. Deal with it.

And, none of that really matters because the bottom line is still the very simple fact that Bundy agreed to abide by his govt welfare grazing law he signed. He has not done that. He's been to court twice and lost both times.

He's a criminal.

That he's also a liar about not recognizing the US govt and a racist and a terrorist wannabe doesn't really enter into it.

Sooner or later, he's going to jail and it's likely it won't be easy time for him. He did that to himself too.

The point of the link is you keep calling the militia domestic terrorists when they are legal militias of the state.

What the link is about;
April 28, 2011
Gov. Jan Brewer has signed a bill creating a state militia that she could deploy at any time, and for any reason.

The bill, SB1495, creates a volunteer state militia, separate and apart from the National Guard.

Yes - Fed takes precedent over State.
So why is the Feds ignoring Colorado and California's Pot laws?

The other point is about what the BLM is doing to many Ranchers in many of the Western Lands, this is much bigger than just Bundy.

 

[Stephanie]

Meet The Militia Rushing To Cliven Bundy's Defense | ThinkProgress

......The militia movement is back, it is here in force and they seem to be roving the country looking for opportunities like this to make themselves known.....

..... I love this country. Love it. Top to bottom. When I say the pledge of allegiance, I mean it......

These people live in LaLa Land. Really. Its all just a huge fantasy for them. They break the law in order to defend a fellow criminal, put women out in front to take the gunfire and pretend its all because they love the country they say they don't recognize.

And they are frightened little bunny rabbits.

..... I think it is time for all of you to Join the Militia! Look what is happening at The Bundy Ranch in NV. That could happen here next! .....

I've asked this before but -

Not all of these people are on welfare. Some actually have to earn a living and will eventually have to go home and pay their bills.

What happens when Bundy doesn't have all those women surrounding him?

More scare mongering from Pink Progress, who'da thunk it?

Tell me something, how many shots were fired in the Bundy standoff? Why are BLM agents armed in the first fucking place? What percentage of the "militia" that responded to the government's attempt to seize private property were actually armed? Why is your "article" citing an SPLC report from 5 years ago instead of the more up to date one that they released this year? Is the "reporter" who worte that story unawae of the fact that they publish that report every year, or is he hoping that his readers are? Either way, why should I trust anything she has to say?

These are the kind of questions that are asked by honest people when they see tripe like this, dishonest people simply post the link and then pretend that anyone who disagrees with them is an ignorant hack.

lol, great catch...everyone needs to know nothinkingprogress is a left wing PROPAGANA DNC funded site...take anything from them with a grain of nothing

 

[Old Rocks]

You know, we had a case of some whacked out 'gangsta' types just driving around an area and indiscriminatly shooting at whatever took their fancy. Now that is how I see these 'militia' types. They are looking to have a shootout so they can brag to their buddies how fucking tough they are.

Little they realize that the majority of citizens of this nation see them as little more than a white version of the 'gangsta' culture. Armed, dangerous, and need to be taken off of the streets.

 

[peach174]

You know, we had a case of some whacked out 'gangsta' types just driving around an area and indiscriminately shooting at whatever took their fancy. Now that is how I see these 'militia' types. They are looking to have a shootout so they can brag to their buddies how fucking tough they are.

Little they realize that the majority of citizens of this nation see them as little more than a white version of the 'gangsta' culture. Armed, dangerous, and need to be taken off of the streets.

Yep- they are riding around on horses and indiscriminately shooting at whatever took their fancy.
Seriously?
They were legal Militias passed by bills, signed into law in each of their States by their Governors.

How about armed government snipers aiming their sniper rifles at women and children protesters ?
Many here had hissy fits when the police pepper sprayed leftie protesters, but when the Feds aim sniper rifles at women and children rightie protesters nothing. You take the side of a Government, that has become totally out of control with over the top excessive force against protesters.
REALLY?

 

[Samson]

I will agree: You're no legal scholar.

But I assure you that the Federal Government employs more than a few, and if they felt any law had been broken, they'd be the first to enforce it (E.g. Ruby Ridge).

The Federal Government has other means of collecting the $1 million to which they've laid claim: Bundy's family will eventually be ejected from the property, and it will be sold, and a lien will be placed upon every cent of income Bundy earns for the remainder of his life.

The solution here is to expel liberal lawmakers from congress, and replace them with lawmakers who will reduce the power of the federal government to where it was originally intended to be: almost nothing.

Any lien would be against Bundy personally and would not run with the land like a mortgage. While the government MAY try to enforce a lien against him personally, the exemptions given to a person over 70 would preclude the government from ever getting anything from him personally. His personal debt could be enforced against his estate when he dies, as long as the estate itself is not tied up in some legal mechanism like a trust. Any lien unsatisfied in ten years will automatically expire.

The solution is to replace liberal law makers that do not practice the same kind of selective prosecution and put people like Bundy on the same footing as the drug dealers growing marijuana in the national forests and the tax absconding federal employees.

See? Toldja the rw's are legal scholars. Especially if good ole katzen is wearing his/her/its lawyer hat this week. Next week, he/she/it will ba a doctor. Or, maybe he/she/it will be back to bathing dirty dogs.

As to "... reduce the power of the federal government to where it was originally intended to be: almost nothing", it was Ronnie Ray-Gun who enacted, by Executive Order #12548, the act that Bundy agreed to abide by but has not.

"Ronnie Ray-Gun?"



Other than making a childish referral to Reagan, I'm not sure if you have any point.

I made no reference to executive order: my point was that the power of the federal government should be reduced through legislation.

You would probably benefit from some fresh air: removing your head from your partisan ass would be a nice start.

 

[Sallow]

What law did they break?

Please keep in mind that I'm not the legal scholar that so many rw's are but this is the statue I believe applies. If I am incorrect, I hope someone will post the correct statute.

I've posted this before so for those who actually read info before making decisions, my apologies. This is for the idiots who refuse to educate themselves and probably won't read this anyway.

18 U.S. Code § 111 - Assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers or employees | LII / Legal Information Institute

18 U.S. Code § 111 - Assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers or employees

(a) In General.— Whoever—
(1) forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates, or interferes with any person designated in section 1114 of this title while engaged in or on account of the performance of official duties; or
(2) forcibly assaults or intimidates any person who formerly served as a person designated in section 1114 on account of the performance of official duties during such person’s term of service,
shall, where the acts in violation of this section constitute only simple assault, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both, and where such acts involve physical contact with the victim of that assault or the intent to commit another felony, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.
(b) Enhanced Penalty.— Whoever, in the commission of any acts described in subsection (a), uses a deadly or dangerous weapon (including a weapon intended to cause death or danger but that fails to do so by reason of a defective component) or inflicts bodily injury, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

They assaulted people? How many? How many were put in the hospital?

If we accept your interpretation of that law it would be a felony to call up a federal employee and ask them a question. Do you really want to argue that every single time a federal employee has to deal with the public it is a felony offense?

Assault is more than just violence.

The threat of violence is assault as well..

 

[Samson]

The solution is to replace liberal law makers that do not practice the same kind of selective prosecution and put people like Bundy on the same footing as the drug dealers growing marijuana in the national forests and the tax absconding federal employees.

Lawmakers do not have the power to enforce the law: This is an executive function.

You are correct that the executive can prioritize its resouces to enforce the law, however, if the law did not exist (e.g. regarding private grazing of public land), then there would be nothing to justify federal enforcement.

Congress needs to grow some balls.

 

[Sallow]

Luddly is OBVIOUSLY scared to death (no pun intended) of law-abiding citizens with firearms.

Have you ever even TOUCHED a firearm, Luddly? And no, slingshots and squirt guns don't count.

So at what point in your life did you decide that inanimate objects have the ability to kill people, Luddly?

At what point did you deduce that criminals and other lawbreakers are NOT responsible for their actions, and it's GUNS that kill people, not BAD people who kill GOOD people.

If an armed intruder broke into your home, what would you do, Luddly? Grab a steak knife and try to TALK the intruder into submission? Maybe bend over and offer yourself to the intruder, in exchange for your life?

You're a SHAMEFUL, SHALLOW, and SOUL-LESS human being, Luddly. Your kind will NEVER prevail, at least not for long.

I AM a law-abiding citizen who owns guns.

I have had the experience of having an intruder break into my home and he ended up dead.

That has no relevance to the domestic terrorists who stupidly think they're gonna take on the federal govt and win.

Was MLK a domestic terrorist?

MLK spent time in jail. And he never threatened a federal agent.

Martin Luther King, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

 

[Samson]

What law did they break?

Please keep in mind that I'm not the legal scholar that so many rw's are but this is the statue I believe applies. If I am incorrect, I hope someone will post the correct statute.

I've posted this before so for those who actually read info before making decisions, my apologies. This is for the idiots who refuse to educate themselves and probably won't read this anyway.

18 U.S. Code § 111 - Assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers or employees | LII / Legal Information Institute

They assaulted people? How many? How many were put in the hospital?

If we accept your interpretation of that law it would be a felony to call up a federal employee and ask them a question. Do you really want to argue that every single time a federal employee has to deal with the public it is a felony offense?

Assault is more than just violence.

The threat of violence is assault as well..

Clearly there's not been a threat worthy of arrest, setting the precedent.



But don't let that stop your over-active imagination.