Member of gay community: children need both a dad and a mom

[poet]

That's ok - we'll never figure out you communitsts

Destroy God

Destroy the Family

Destroy society (drugs, alcohol, debauchery)

Destroy the economy

Destroy your nation

Hell of an ideology you idiots believe so deeply in...

No one is a Communist. That you keep repeating that we are, doesn't make it any more truth.

You are communists - you believe people should be forced, at the barrel of a gun, to share what they have with everyone. That you keep denying you are, doesn't make it any less true.

Did you ask me what I believe? No, you assumed. That's not what I believe. So, you're wrong. That is a stereotypical view that conservatives have of liberals, and couldn't be more wrong-headed. Stop assuming and defining people and ask questions. Moron.

 

[bodecea]

That does occur in many situations tho.

No - it doesn't. It occurs in some situations. Not "many". You're not entitled to your own facts

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF12A22.pdf

One study found 50% of children of divorce have not seen their non-custodial parent in the last year.

Is call that "many"

Rottweiler says we're only entitled to HIS "facts".

 

[AceRothstein]

That's ok - we'll never figure out you communitsts

Destroy God

Destroy the Family

Destroy society (drugs, alcohol, debauchery)

Destroy the economy

Destroy your nation

Hell of an ideology you idiots believe so deeply in...

No one is a Communist. That you keep repeating that we are, doesn't make it any more truth.

You are communists - you believe people should be forced, at the barrel of a gun, to share what they have with everyone. That you keep denying you are, doesn't make it any less true.

So only communists support taxation? You are one loony loon.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I don't know the exact statistics - why? What does that have to do with anything?

So should children living in divorced single family households be taken away from their parents since they aren't growing up with that "traditional" experience?

Being divorced does not mean you stop being a parent, you moron.

It’s not surprising so many on the right miss the cogent point RDD_1210 is making: if same-sex couples should be disallowed to marry because their children would ‘suffer’ from a lack of the mother or father in the home, then to be consistent single parents should have their children removed from the home for the same reason.

In reality, however, children can flourish in homes absent a mother or father, whether through divorce, death, or the fact the child’s parents are of the same sex.

Being a same-sex couple does not mean you stop being a parent, either.

 

[P@triot]

The government shouldn't be in the business of telling couples they can't have children. And a two parent household with two moms, or a single parent household with only a dad is far superior than aging out of the foster care system.

Like Andrew Wilkow always says, "with liberals there are only two choices: central planning or nihilism"

I know this may be soooo radical, but what about this AmyNation - what if the irresponsible assholes that create the children are forced to provide for them?

For example, Bubba and Amber Lynn get pregnant in the trailer park while Tyrone and Loquisha get pregnant in the hood. If at any time, they are unemployed and/or are found to not be taking proper care of the children, they are immediately sent to prison where they are placed on a "chain gang" 12 hours per day repairing roads. They earn a salary for that work - which goes to the foster care system to care for their children.

Now I don't have to pay for someone else's children, and you liberals always crying about the "infrastructure" get new roads and bridges! Everyone is a winner. If only you liberals could think....

 

[AmyNation]

You want to send the unemployed to prison, but Im the big government junkie?




Wait..



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I can't...





stop laughing!

 

[P@triot]

So should children living in divorced single family households be taken away from their parents since they aren't growing up with that "traditional" experience?

Being divorced does not mean you stop being a parent, you moron.

It’s not surprising so many on the right miss the cogent point RDD_1210 is making: if same-sex couples should be disallowed to marry because their children would ‘suffer’ from a lack of the mother or father in the home, then to be consistent single parents should have their children removed from the home for the same reason.

In reality, however, children can flourish in homes absent a mother or father, whether through divorce, death, or the fact the child’s parents are of the same sex.

Being a same-sex couple does not mean you stop being a parent, either.

I'm can't speak for anyone else - but I am personally not saying that same-sex couples should not be allowed to marry because of anything to do with children. I'm saying they shouldn't be allowed to marry because marriage is between a man and a woman. If they want to create some type of private organization that joins them in some type of union, I support that 1,000%. I'll sign any petition for them any time. When they demand that government needs to get involved with them and give them special favors, that's when I have a fucking problem.

 

[poet]

Being divorced does not mean you stop being a parent, you moron.

It’s not surprising so many on the right miss the cogent point RDD_1210 is making: if same-sex couples should be disallowed to marry because their children would ‘suffer’ from a lack of the mother or father in the home, then to be consistent single parents should have their children removed from the home for the same reason.

In reality, however, children can flourish in homes absent a mother or father, whether through divorce, death, or the fact the child’s parents are of the same sex.

Being a same-sex couple does not mean you stop being a parent, either.

I'm can't speak for anyone else - but I am personally not saying that same-sex couples should not be allowed to marry because of anything to do with children. I'm saying they shouldn't be allowed to marry because marriage is between a man and a woman. If they want to create some type of private organization that joins them in some type of union, I support that 1,000%. I'll sign any petition for them any time. When they demand that government needs to get involved with them and give them special favors, that's when I have a fucking problem.

That is your belief. You are mistaking beliefs for truth. They are not. It is not a special favor...it is a right, based on equality. When you finally get that, you'll be less stressed.

 

[P@triot]

You want to send the unemployed to prison, but Im the big government junkie?




Wait..



...

I can't...





stop laughing!

No - not all. I want to send the unemployed PARENT to prison for child neglect. As any rational, normal person would.....

Why do you feel the need to change the conversation when you don't have a decent response? You just can't be an adult and acknowledge a point or admit defeat?

 

[P@triot]

It’s not surprising so many on the right miss the cogent point RDD_1210 is making: if same-sex couples should be disallowed to marry because their children would ‘suffer’ from a lack of the mother or father in the home, then to be consistent single parents should have their children removed from the home for the same reason.

In reality, however, children can flourish in homes absent a mother or father, whether through divorce, death, or the fact the child’s parents are of the same sex.

Being a same-sex couple does not mean you stop being a parent, either.

I'm can't speak for anyone else - but I am personally not saying that same-sex couples should not be allowed to marry because of anything to do with children. I'm saying they shouldn't be allowed to marry because marriage is between a man and a woman. If they want to create some type of private organization that joins them in some type of union, I support that 1,000%. I'll sign any petition for them any time. When they demand that government needs to get involved with them and give them special favors, that's when I have a fucking problem.

That is your belief. You are mistaking beliefs for truth. They are not. It is not a special favor...it is a right, based on equality. When you finally get that, you'll be less stressed.

First of all, there is no "RIGHT" to get married. It doesn't exist. Even between a man and a woman (how sad that you don't know that).

Second, marriage is between a man and a woman. When two men or two women expect the same, they are expecting an exception for them (ie special favors). Don't let the facts hit you in the ass on the way out the door son....

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

But his own experience as a parent revealed to him that children need a mom and a dad, and that marriage is ultimately about putting the needs of children before the desires of adults.

In a recent article at Public Discourse titled “I’m Gay and I Oppose Same-Sex Marriage,” Mainwaring makes the bold claim that: "To be fully formed, children need to be free to generously receive from and express affection to parents of both genders. Genderless marriages deny this fullness".

Mainwaring is also clear on what influenced his thinking about marriage: “Neither religion nor tradition has played a significant role in forming my stance. But reason and experience certainly have.”

Openly Gay Adoptive Parent Opposes Same-Sex Marriage

His conscience won out and I expect to hear more and more such stories as the Lord works on the hearts and minds of people trapped in the sin of homosexuality. It isn't religion that causes someone to speak the truth... it is their conscience that never sleeps. Some people ignore their consciences until seared as if by a hot iron. Romans 1 describes this as the reprobate mind. This man is listening to his conscience and I have to believe it will ultimately lead to his salvation and leaving the lifestyle of homosexuality behind.

It was never Gods plan for a man and a man to be married so how could it be Gods plan for a man and a man to raise a child? Same sex marriage is an abomination before God. America needs to return to God while she still can. The days of Habukkuk are upon us right now... Time to repent.

-Jeremiah

 

[poet]

I'm can't speak for anyone else - but I am personally not saying that same-sex couples should not be allowed to marry because of anything to do with children. I'm saying they shouldn't be allowed to marry because marriage is between a man and a woman. If they want to create some type of private organization that joins them in some type of union, I support that 1,000%. I'll sign any petition for them any time. When they demand that government needs to get involved with them and give them special favors, that's when I have a fucking problem.

That is your belief. You are mistaking beliefs for truth. They are not. It is not a special favor...it is a right, based on equality. When you finally get that, you'll be less stressed.

First of all, there is no "RIGHT" to get married. It doesn't exist. Even between a man and a woman (how sad that you don't know that).

Second, marriage is between a man and a woman. When two men or two women expect the same, they are expecting an exception for them (ie special favors). Don't let the facts hit you in the ass on the way out the door son....

Defined by you....not by me. Sadly for you, the tide is changing...and soon the laws of the land. And you'll be disenchanted more. LOL

 

[P@triot]

You want to send the unemployed to prison, but Im the big government junkie?

By the way, forgetting for a moment here that you attempt to change the narrative to fit your own twisted ideology, how exactly is sending someone to prison equal "big government"? I mean, I want 100% of all serial killers in prison. I want 100% of all rapists in prison. How does that equal "big government" again?

In my proposed plan, government doesn't grow an ounce. We would need more prison guards of course for on site monitoring, transportation, etc. - but we'd save a ton on taxes for roads, bridges, etc. You work them to pay the cost of their own imprisonment (food, housing, healthcare, guards, etc.) and for the cost of their children in the government care.

This is not rocket science....

 

[AmyNation]

You want to send the unemployed to prison, but Im the big government junkie?




Wait..



...

I can't...





stop laughing!

No - not all. I want to send the unemployed PARENT to prison for child neglect. As any rational, normal person would.....

Why do you feel the need to change the conversation when you don't have a decent response? You just can't be an adult and acknowledge a point or admit defeat?

The funniest part is I honestly think you're serious! You seriously want to make being unemployed a crime!

How you have the audacity to suggest anyone else is big government while advocating for jailing the unemployed is so insane it deserves its own thread so everyone on the board can see how lacking in sense you are.

 

[P@triot]

That is your belief. You are mistaking beliefs for truth. They are not. It is not a special favor...it is a right, based on equality. When you finally get that, you'll be less stressed.

First of all, there is no "RIGHT" to get married. It doesn't exist. Even between a man and a woman (how sad that you don't know that).

Second, marriage is between a man and a woman. When two men or two women expect the same, they are expecting an exception for them (ie special favors). Don't let the facts hit you in the ass on the way out the door son....

Defined by you....not by me. Sadly for you, the tide is changing...and soon the laws of the land. And you'll be disenchanted more. LOL

Actually, not defined by either of us genius. Defined by REALITY.

The tide is changing - in favor of sanity and in direct opposition to your radical and absurd ideology. The November 2010 elections saw an epic beat down nation wide of liberals by a massive Tea Party movement. Not one of which has been unseated since. I've seen Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and more just owning liberals in Congress and stopping the agenda of your communist crowd.

At the state level, we saw a tidal wave of conservative governors, mayors, state House of Representatives, and more take over and correct the crash course we are on. Scott Walker turned around Wisconsin from the $8 billion nightmare of debt they were facing, and Kasich saved Ohio from the $4 billion nightmare of debt they were facing (and ironically enough, despite conservative policy creating economics flourishing in these states, Obama tries to take credit every time a job is created ). All of those people are committed to preserving traditional marriage.

But hey, if fantasy land makes you feel better, have at it chief! That's what freedom is all about...

 

[P@triot]

You want to send the unemployed to prison, but Im the big government junkie?

No - not all. I want to send the unemployed PARENT to prison for child neglect. As any rational, normal person would.....

Why do you feel the need to change the conversation when you don't have a decent response? You just can't be an adult and acknowledge a point or admit defeat?

The funniest part is I honestly think you're serious! You seriously want to make being unemployed a crime!

How you have the audacity to suggest anyone else is big government while advocating for jailing the unemployed is so insane it deserves its own thread so everyone on the board can see how lacking in sense you are.

Once again, when you've been defeated, you have to lie about what has been said! Game. Set. Match!

 

[AmyNation]

You want to send the unemployed to prison, but Im the big government junkie?

By the way, forgetting for a moment here that you attempt to change the narrative to fit your own twisted ideology, how exactly is sending someone to prison equal "big government"? I mean, I want 100% of all serial killers in prison. I want 100% of all rapists in prison. How does that equal "big government" again?

In my proposed plan, government doesn't grow an ounce. We would need more prison guards of course for on site monitoring, transportation, etc. - but we'd save a ton on taxes for roads, bridges, etc. You work them to pay the cost of their own imprisonment (food, housing, healthcare, guards, etc.) and for the cost of their children in the government care.

This is not rocket science....

You're right, its not big government to want to massively expand our prison system as well as our foster care system to include the 8 million children who are currently living with an unemployed parent but will now be raised by the state, and make room for the extra 10 million plus inmates once you criminalize being an unemployed parent.

Nah, no big government there.

 

[Sunshine]

But his own experience as a parent revealed to him that children need a mom and a dad, and that marriage is ultimately about putting the needs of children before the desires of adults.

In a recent article at Public Discourse titled “I’m Gay and I Oppose Same-Sex Marriage,” Mainwaring makes the bold claim that: "To be fully formed, children need to be free to generously receive from and express affection to parents of both genders. Genderless marriages deny this fullness".

Mainwaring is also clear on what influenced his thinking about marriage: “Neither religion nor tradition has played a significant role in forming my stance. But reason and experience certainly have.”

Openly Gay Adoptive Parent Opposes Same-Sex Marriage

I know a well to do gay couple who hired a female to care for their adopted children so they would have a mother figure in their lives.

 

[Qball]

Is it true that half of marriages end up in divorce? half?

I don't know the exact statistics - why? What does that have to do with anything?

So should children living in divorced single family households be taken away from their parents since they aren't growing up with that "traditional" experience?

What kind of argument does it make for gay marriage if you can only compare it to failed heterosexual marriages?

 

[P@triot]

You want to send the unemployed to prison, but Im the big government junkie?

Why do you feel the need to change the conversation when you don't have a decent response? You just can't be an adult and acknowledge a point or admit defeat?

The funniest part is I honestly think you're serious! You seriously want to make being unemployed a crime!

How you have the audacity to suggest anyone else is big government while advocating for jailing the unemployed is so insane it deserves its own thread so everyone on the board can see how lacking in sense you are.

So just so we are clear here - you actually believe that people have a right to child neglect? That we should not step in, in the best interest of the child? That there are no limits on what can be done to a child, no matter how horrific?

Wow.... Folks, decide for yourself how sick and unhinged Amynation is....