Men in women's bathrooms

[Flopper]

3 bathrooms

men

women

and

transgenders


what is so hard to understand about that? it's easy

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

No, according to the dictionary, - the word is typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones). To state that gender and sex are one in same denies existence of transsexuals which is recognized by the medical community. I know Republican would prefer to deny the existence of transsexuals, homosexuality, and bisexuals but that is just not possible.

 

[Cecilie1200]

3 bathrooms

men

women

and

transgenders


what is so hard to understand about that? it's easy

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

If true, then there would be no complaints since gender is sex.

His directive orders school to allow transsexuals to use the restroom that matches their gender identity, not gender. Not that lefties know the difference, and even if they do, they ignore it.

By definition - gender is the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

Let's not let biology count though.

If a trans male had to go through life as a true woman must, there would be none.

You're not wrong. I have yet to ever hear a transgender male identify anything about his "feeling like a woman" that has a damned thing to do with what being a woman really is.

And I have to wonder, if gender is some fluid social construct that's all in people's heads anyway, how is it possible to "feel like a woman"? Basically, the entire transgender argument is that they feel like something their argument, by definition, says doesn't really exist.

Either there is a set, objective divide between male and female, in which case, they're on the male side, or there's no real difference except in what society has made up and forced on us, in which case, there's nothing for them to "feel like" at all.

 

[Cecilie1200]

3 bathrooms

men

women

and

transgenders


what is so hard to understand about that? it's easy

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

When a child is adopted, they get new birth certificates. My son's gender is legally male, even though he was born female.

So basically, you're telling us that sex is determined not by biology and DNA, but by a piece of paper?

Let me clarify, leftist dimwit self-hater: The sex one is at birth, which in this case happens to have been the "birth certificate designation" to which we were actually referring, is one's gender. Whatever wishful thinking you may have bullied the craven politicians into rubber-stamping for you since then has no more weight of reality than your belief that you're an intelligent, decent human being worthy of respect.

In the future, I will advise you strongly to leave references to specific family members out of discussions, since I really doubt you have the moral fortitude and strength of character to not run sniveling to the mods the first time someone comments on them, despite the fact that YOU brought them into it.

 

[shintao]

and it should be up to the establishment what kinds of restrooms to provide.

Well no kidding. Nobody is arguing about Target (unlike libtards - we don't believe we can force private industry on private property to do anything - we just choose to no longer shop there). The issue is public facilities. The public pool. Schools. Highway stops. Etc.

Really? There are no white only drinking fountains or restrooms in any private business because any business that opens it's door to the public is subject to civil rights legislation.

Really? You really want to tell us that someone has a "civil right" to force women to disrobe around him simply because he puts on a dress and makeup? Or doesn't even bother with that much, and just SAYS he "feels like a woman"?

Blacks fought to get equal rights in the long aftermath of slavery. The LGBT community and their lickspittles on the left are fighting to turn women into state-owned strippers.

"Get naked, and shut up, bitch!" ain't exactly "We Shall Overcome", y'know what I'm saying?

Who says any women is forced? Try again. She can go at home, its her choice. Now force, is the Texas conservative roadside vagina stop where they fist the little girls.

As to strippers, you want to elect Trump who has a prostitute and porn star from a wife, but you want to fantasize about strippers.

 

[Cecilie1200]

3 bathrooms

men

women

and

transgenders


what is so hard to understand about that? it's easy

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

No, according to the dictionary, - the word is typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones). To state that gender and sex are one in same denies existence of transsexuals which is recognized by the medical community. I know Republican would prefer to deny the existence of transsexuals, homosexuality, and bisexuals but that is just not possible.

Oh, goody. Semantic hair-splitting. Always a sign that you're on firm intellectual and scientific ground.

Transgender people seek to use the restroom that matches their fantasies and desire for forced approbation, rather than the one that matches their biology. There is no amount of "oh, but we got new paperwork" or "oh, we got the dictionary people to add THIS colloquial usage" that will change that, or make your argument any more correct.

Basically, you either really believe that women have the right to make decisions about their own bodies like you've always said, or you really believe their bodies belong to the government, and personal choice is a privilege doled out to them as their political masters deem fit. You can try to dress it up as the march on Selma till the cows come home, and it still amounts to you turning over 50% of the population into second class citizens in forced servitude to the wishes of an infinitesimally small minority of masters.

 

[Dhara]

3 bathrooms

men

women

and

transgenders


what is so hard to understand about that? it's easy

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

When a child is adopted, they get new birth certificates. My son's gender is legally male, even though he was born female.

So basically, you're telling us that sex is determined not by biology and DNA, but by a piece of paper?

Let me clarify, leftist dimwit self-hater: The sex one is at birth, which in this case happens to have been the "birth certificate designation" to which we were actually referring, is one's gender. Whatever wishful thinking you may have bullied the craven politicians into rubber-stamping for you since then has no more weight of reality than your belief that you're an intelligent, decent human being worthy of respect.

In the future, I will advise you strongly to leave references to specific family members out of discussions, since I really doubt you have the moral fortitude and strength of character to not run sniveling to the mods the first time someone comments on them, despite the fact that YOU brought them into it.

STFU.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Interesting.

How can a transgender identify as the opposite sex without knowing which sex they were before? Isn't that the slightest bit odd?

If a trans male gets pregnant, doesn't that tell this person they aren't the sex they identify with?

Transgender man opens up about shocking pregnancy

 

[TemplarKormac]

3 bathrooms

men

women

and

transgenders


what is so hard to understand about that? it's easy

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

When a child is adopted, they get new birth certificates. My son's gender is legally male, even though he was born female.

So basically, you're telling us that sex is determined not by biology and DNA, but by a piece of paper?

Let me clarify, leftist dimwit self-hater: The sex one is at birth, which in this case happens to have been the "birth certificate designation" to which we were actually referring, is one's gender. Whatever wishful thinking you may have bullied the craven politicians into rubber-stamping for you since then has no more weight of reality than your belief that you're an intelligent, decent human being worthy of respect.

In the future, I will advise you strongly to leave references to specific family members out of discussions, since I really doubt you have the moral fortitude and strength of character to not run sniveling to the mods the first time someone comments on them, despite the fact that YOU brought them into it.

STFU.

Wow.

 

[Flopper]

3 bathrooms

men

women

and

transgenders


what is so hard to understand about that? it's easy

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

When a child is adopted, they get new birth certificates. My son's gender is legally male, even though he was born female.

Sex can not be determined easily in about 1 in every 1500 to 2000 babies born. A specialist is required. If chromosome tests are required it can cost a couple of thousand dollars. In many cases sex on birth certificates turn out to be wrong. Some countries such as Germany are leaving sex blank on birth certificates when it's too close to call.

 

[Dhara]

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

When a child is adopted, they get new birth certificates. My son's gender is legally male, even though he was born female.

So basically, you're telling us that sex is determined not by biology and DNA, but by a piece of paper?

Let me clarify, leftist dimwit self-hater: The sex one is at birth, which in this case happens to have been the "birth certificate designation" to which we were actually referring, is one's gender. Whatever wishful thinking you may have bullied the craven politicians into rubber-stamping for you since then has no more weight of reality than your belief that you're an intelligent, decent human being worthy of respect.

In the future, I will advise you strongly to leave references to specific family members out of discussions, since I really doubt you have the moral fortitude and strength of character to not run sniveling to the mods the first time someone comments on them, despite the fact that YOU brought them into it.

STFU.

Wow.

Wow is what I say to the hatred in your pals post. STFU is the mildest response I have for her ugliness.

 

[Dhara]

3 bathrooms

men

women

and

transgenders


what is so hard to understand about that? it's easy

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

When a child is adopted, they get new birth certificates. My son's gender is legally male, even though he was born female.

Sex can not be determined easily in about 1 in every 1500 to 2000 babies born. A specialist is required. If chromosome test is required it can cost a couple of thousand dollars. In many cases sex on birth certificates turn out to be wrong.

That happened to me. The wrong gender was entered into the birth certificate. It made getting a passport tricky.

 

[Cecilie1200]

and it should be up to the establishment what kinds of restrooms to provide.

Well no kidding. Nobody is arguing about Target (unlike libtards - we don't believe we can force private industry on private property to do anything - we just choose to no longer shop there). The issue is public facilities. The public pool. Schools. Highway stops. Etc.

Really? There are no white only drinking fountains or restrooms in any private business because any business that opens it's door to the public is subject to civil rights legislation.

Really? You really want to tell us that someone has a "civil right" to force women to disrobe around him simply because he puts on a dress and makeup? Or doesn't even bother with that much, and just SAYS he "feels like a woman"?

Blacks fought to get equal rights in the long aftermath of slavery. The LGBT community and their lickspittles on the left are fighting to turn women into state-owned strippers.

"Get naked, and shut up, bitch!" ain't exactly "We Shall Overcome", y'know what I'm saying?

Who says any women is forced? Try again. She can go at home, its her choice. Now force, is the Texas conservative roadside vagina stop where they fist the little girls.

As to strippers, you want to elect Trump who has a prostitute and porn star from a wife, but you want to fantasize about strippers.

Excuse me?! Did you just say, "Get naked around who we tell you to, or don't ever pee outside your own home" to over a hundred million women? THAT'S your solution? Accept your edicts of what should and shouldn't be comfortable for OUR bodies, or lose the ability to ever go to school, or have a job, or go anywhere away from our houses longer than, say, two hours at the most? Would you also like to stuff us in burqas, Mohammed? Are there any other rules you want to impose on what we do with our bodies?

By the way, Chucklehead, displaying your hatred of and desire to subjugate women is one thing, and no more than I would expect from a needledicked leftist metrosexual, but generalizing me in with the Trump supporters because you're too piss-stupid to bother to know better? You and both of your IQ points are outta here.

 

[TemplarKormac]

STFU is the mildest response I have for her ugliness.

No.

STFU is what people use when they have nothing left to argue.

 

[Dhara]

STFU is the mildest response I have for her ugliness.

No.

STFU is what people use when they have nothing left to argue.

Or the person isn't worth wasting my time on.

 

[Flopper]

and it should be up to the establishment what kinds of restrooms to provide.

Well no kidding. Nobody is arguing about Target (unlike libtards - we don't believe we can force private industry on private property to do anything - we just choose to no longer shop there). The issue is public facilities. The public pool. Schools. Highway stops. Etc.

Really? There are no white only drinking fountains or restrooms in any private business because any business that opens it's door to the public is subject to civil rights legislation.

Really? You really want to tell us that someone has a "civil right" to force women to disrobe around him simply because he puts on a dress and makeup? Or doesn't even bother with that much, and just SAYS he "feels like a woman"?

Blacks fought to get equal rights in the long aftermath of slavery. The LGBT community and their lickspittles on the left are fighting to turn women into state-owned strippers.

"Get naked, and shut up, bitch!" ain't exactly "We Shall Overcome", y'know what I'm saying?

I think your fantasies are in control.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Or the person isn't worth wasting my time on.

Uh, okay?

That's the response of someone running away with their tail between their legs.

 

[Dhara]

Or the person isn't worth wasting my time on.

Uh, okay?

That's the response of someone running away with their tail between their legs.

That's the response of someone who knows who's worth talking to and who isn't.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

When a child is adopted, they get new birth certificates. My son's gender is legally male, even though he was born female.

So basically, you're telling us that sex is determined not by biology and DNA, but by a piece of paper?

Let me clarify, leftist dimwit self-hater: The sex one is at birth, which in this case happens to have been the "birth certificate designation" to which we were actually referring, is one's gender. Whatever wishful thinking you may have bullied the craven politicians into rubber-stamping for you since then has no more weight of reality than your belief that you're an intelligent, decent human being worthy of respect.

In the future, I will advise you strongly to leave references to specific family members out of discussions, since I really doubt you have the moral fortitude and strength of character to not run sniveling to the mods the first time someone comments on them, despite the fact that YOU brought them into it.

STFU.

Wow.

Wow is what I say to the hatred in your pals post. STFU is the mildest response I have for her ugliness.

I cannot imagine a world in which I would want to be anything or anyone the likes of you would approve of.

"Ugly" is trying to destroy millennia of human society and development in an attempt to justify the massive screw-up one has made of one's own life.

 

[TemplarKormac]

That's the response of someone who knows who's worth talking to and who isn't.

How about not. Cecilie flat out destroyed you.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

now they're going to have to prove to the entire country why everyone must now consider any man "also a woman".

There's no such thing as a "transgender" man or woman.

People like Bruce Jenner (or whatever name he goes by this week) are simply a man who has undergone voluntary genital mutilation, and acquired a drug habit (hormones).

He is no more a woman, than an apple tree is now an orange tree because you picked off some of the apples and tied a few oranges to the branches, and injected some orange juice under the bark.

If Jenner wants to do what he did, fine, I don't have a problem with it. But trying to make laws to force the rest of us to act like he's a woman, is ludicrous.

Which law is trying to be passed to force the rest of us to act like Jenner is a woman? I didn't hear about that one... Link please

Clearly, he is referring to allowing a transgender male into a women's bathroom. Why are you ignoring the obvious?