Men in women's bathrooms

[Slade3200]

I make claims of "BS" because it IS BS. I feel as solid about that claim as I do about claiming that the earth is round instead of flat. In other words, you will convince not one single person, no matter how gullible, that women accept or even prefer men using their privately segregated hygiene areas.

You might as well stop now. Save face. You're claiming the earth is flat and you're going to get laughed out of every room you claim that in. Just look at the number of views this thread has. You probably think that number equals "people eager to see that men win the "right" to share showers etc. with women". Everyone else though sees that number QUITE a different way...

When you refer to "women accepting transgenders in their bathrooms"... Do you mean ALL women, some women, even one women will ever accept this?? Do you think ANY women support the trans cause? What percentage of women support validates a reasonable debate on this subject?

Let's start here.

How many women in this thread would accept transgenders in their bathroom?

Oh look who's back! Care to pick up where we left off? Remember I was leaving links to polls taken from multiple credible sources that sampled approx. 1000 people. Are you intending on calling for a vote on a right wing dominated thread where you may get 10 responses if your lucky and use that as the data to back up your argument?

There are polls that back up what you are saying, there are polls that back up what im saying... I'm making a simple point that women fall on both sides of the issue. Not sure why you all can't accept that.

 

[Cecilie1200]

And still it makes no difference. Trannies with dicks and testicles will not be entering women's rooms as a matter of law. Private companies like Target can walk that plank, but it won't be a mandated from any government or law. Your cult pushed too far. We all knew you would. Game over. Poor Target is still eating shit from that. It may actually be the tipping point that spells their ultimate doom.

I'm really kinda pissed off about that. Target had a really cute purse I wanted to buy, and I had to go get one I didn't like as much at another store instead, because I will be damned if I give my money to a store that essentially flipped me the bird and told me to fuck off, I don't matter to them.

Why would you?

Common human decency, and a desire to get my money.

Decency is about not being an asshole. If they were carrying Gay Pride flags your attitude would be the same, and their answer should be the same, shop elsewhere.

Well, both decency and non-assholery - not to mention common-sensical commerce - dictate showing some concern for the personal safety of one's customers, not to mention not making them feel profoundly uncomfortable, marginalized, and unwelcome.

As to your assumption about Gay Pride and my feelings thereon, or any ludicrous claims as to equivalency between "you have a Gay Pride flag" and "you have a penis and you're in the ladies' room", assumptions make an ass of you, not me. You've resoundingly proven that old adage true. When I want to hear the asinine opinions of an Internet troll as to who I am and what I think . . . well, I shall never want that.

Target has every right to say, "Fuck you, we don't want your money unless you shut up and act like our whore" to millions of women, but you are incorrect in your statement that they SHOULD say that. Only a dumbfuck who thinks his social agenda should be paramount in importance to OTHER people's money (because, of course, leftists always make these lofty pronouncements when they themselves have nothing to lose by it) would think that's not a completely insane way to conduct business. Unless you and the "vast" armies of transgenders are planning to make up for all that lost revenue, the only "should" here is you piping the fuck down.

 

[Silhouette]

Remember I was leaving links to polls taken from multiple credible sources...
I'm making a simple point that women fall on both sides of the issue. Not sure why you all can't accept that.

Because only a drooling idiot would buy a lie that says "generally women both agree and disagree with men using their bathrooms, showers and locker rooms with them behind doors marked "women". Keep talking until you're blue in the face bro. Polls said Prop 8 would fail handily, just before it passed with a decent margin. This is different though. Only mentally ill women would welcome strange men into their showers. And they would be a very insignificant number indeed. We'll go with the vast majority of women on this one.

You lose.

 

[Evesbodyman]

And still it makes no difference. Trannies with dicks and testicles will not be entering women's rooms as a matter of law. Private companies like Target can walk that plank, but it won't be a mandated from any government or law. Your cult pushed too far. We all knew you would. Game over. Poor Target is still eating shit from that. It may actually be the tipping point that spells their ultimate doom.

I'm really kinda pissed off about that. Target had a really cute purse I wanted to buy, and I had to go get one I didn't like as much at another store instead, because I will be damned if I give my money to a store that essentially flipped me the bird and told me to fuck off, I don't matter to them.

Why would you?

Common human decency, and a desire to get my money.

Decency is about not being an asshole. If they were carrying Gay Pride flags your attitude would be the same, and their answer should be the same, shop elsewhere.

Well, both decency and non-assholery - not to mention common-sensical commerce - dictate showing some concern for the personal safety of one's customers, not to mention not making them feel profoundly uncomfortable, marginalized, and unwelcome.

As to your assumption about Gay Pride and my feelings thereon, or any ludicrous claims as to equivalency between "you have a Gay Pride flag" and "you have a penis and you're in the ladies' room", assumptions make an ass of you, not me. You've resoundingly proven that old adage true. When I want to hear the asinine opinions of an Internet troll as to who I am and what I think . . . well, I shall never want that.

Target has every right to say, "Fuck you, we don't want your money unless you shut up and act like our whore" to millions of women, but you are incorrect in your statement that they SHOULD say that. Only a dumbfuck who thinks his social agenda should be paramount in importance to OTHER people's money (because, of course, leftists always make these lofty pronouncements when they themselves have nothing to lose by it) would think that's not a completely insane way to conduct business. Unless you and the "vast" armies of transgenders are planning to make up for all that lost revenue, the only "should" here is you piping the fuck down.

If Target could make twice as much saying they don't serve coloreds, should they?

Or if they had this?

s?

 

[Slade3200]

Remember I was leaving links to polls taken from multiple credible sources...
I'm making a simple point that women fall on both sides of the issue. Not sure why you all can't accept that.

Because only a drooling idiot would buy a lie that says "generally women both agree and disagree with men using their bathrooms, showers and locker rooms with them behind doors marked "women". Keep talking until you're blue in the face bro. Polls said Prop 8 would fail handily, just before it passed with a decent margin. This is different though. Only mentally ill women would welcome strange men into their showers. And they would be a very insignificant number indeed. We'll go with the vast majority of women on this one.

You lose.

Show me some polls that has a vast majority of women on your side... I've shown plenty from credible sources that show more women on the trans side. If your argument was so strong and right then you should have easy access to this data.

Fact is not all women consider a transgender women a "men" so they don't see it as letting men in their bathroom. Why can't you understand that? There are more elements than simple Biology at play

 

[Silhouette]

^^ Don't need to. I've heard gals talking and seen it all over social media. The reception is running 99.999% NO.

 

[Evesbodyman]

^^ Don't need to. I've heard gals talking and seen it all over social media. The reception is running 99.999% NO.

You have nothing.

 

[Silhouette]

So I'd like to see the question. Know what I bet it was? "Would you object to men and women both using unisex bathrooms". Which already exist, so they'd say "no, as long as the cubicles or the door is lockable." Did the survey also as "Would you object to men using women's showers, dorms and locker rooms as well"?

Different question about the same thing; which is: Men gaining legal access behind ALL (not just some) doors marked "women".. Let me know when THAT survey question has been asked. Get back to me with those numbers...

 

[Cecilie1200]

I'm really kinda pissed off about that. Target had a really cute purse I wanted to buy, and I had to go get one I didn't like as much at another store instead, because I will be damned if I give my money to a store that essentially flipped me the bird and told me to fuck off, I don't matter to them.

Why would you?

Common human decency, and a desire to get my money.

Decency is about not being an asshole. If they were carrying Gay Pride flags your attitude would be the same, and their answer should be the same, shop elsewhere.

Well, both decency and non-assholery - not to mention common-sensical commerce - dictate showing some concern for the personal safety of one's customers, not to mention not making them feel profoundly uncomfortable, marginalized, and unwelcome.

As to your assumption about Gay Pride and my feelings thereon, or any ludicrous claims as to equivalency between "you have a Gay Pride flag" and "you have a penis and you're in the ladies' room", assumptions make an ass of you, not me. You've resoundingly proven that old adage true. When I want to hear the asinine opinions of an Internet troll as to who I am and what I think . . . well, I shall never want that.

Target has every right to say, "Fuck you, we don't want your money unless you shut up and act like our whore" to millions of women, but you are incorrect in your statement that they SHOULD say that. Only a dumbfuck who thinks his social agenda should be paramount in importance to OTHER people's money (because, of course, leftists always make these lofty pronouncements when they themselves have nothing to lose by it) would think that's not a completely insane way to conduct business. Unless you and the "vast" armies of transgenders are planning to make up for all that lost revenue, the only "should" here is you piping the fuck down.

If Target could make twice as much saying they don't serve coloreds, should they?

Or if they had this?

s?

If transgenders ever become a race, and thus black people have any fucking relevance to this conversation, should I let you drag them in and try to make it about them? Sure, why not? Call me when that happens, ass clown. Until then, get off your tangent and back on the subject.

The next post you make about black people in this thread will be seen as a surrender and admission of misogynistic malevolence on your part.

The topic is your desire to tell women what to do with their bodies and privacy. Discuss.

 

[Evesbodyman]

Why would you?

Common human decency, and a desire to get my money.

Decency is about not being an asshole. If they were carrying Gay Pride flags your attitude would be the same, and their answer should be the same, shop elsewhere.

Well, both decency and non-assholery - not to mention common-sensical commerce - dictate showing some concern for the personal safety of one's customers, not to mention not making them feel profoundly uncomfortable, marginalized, and unwelcome.

As to your assumption about Gay Pride and my feelings thereon, or any ludicrous claims as to equivalency between "you have a Gay Pride flag" and "you have a penis and you're in the ladies' room", assumptions make an ass of you, not me. You've resoundingly proven that old adage true. When I want to hear the asinine opinions of an Internet troll as to who I am and what I think . . . well, I shall never want that.

Target has every right to say, "Fuck you, we don't want your money unless you shut up and act like our whore" to millions of women, but you are incorrect in your statement that they SHOULD say that. Only a dumbfuck who thinks his social agenda should be paramount in importance to OTHER people's money (because, of course, leftists always make these lofty pronouncements when they themselves have nothing to lose by it) would think that's not a completely insane way to conduct business. Unless you and the "vast" armies of transgenders are planning to make up for all that lost revenue, the only "should" here is you piping the fuck down.

If Target could make twice as much saying they don't serve coloreds, should they?

Or if they had this?

s?

If transgenders ever become a race, and thus black people have any fucking relevance to this conversation, should I let you drag them in and try to make it about them? Sure, why not? Call me when that happens, ass clown. Until then, get off your tangent and back on the subject.

The next post you make about black people in this thread will be seen as a surrender and admission of misogynistic malevolence on your part.

The topic is your desire to tell women what to do with their bodies and privacy. Discuss.

Telling you to relax when peeing with transgender people is not telling you what to do with your body anymore than telling you blacks are allowed to us those same toilets.

 

[Silhouette]

About the poll that supposedly shows great support for men in women's bathrooms:

So I'd like to see the question. Know what I bet it was? "Would you object to men and women both using unisex bathrooms". Which already exist, so they'd say "no, as long as the cubicles or the door is lockable." Did the survey also ask "Would you object to men using women's showers, dorms and locker rooms as well"?

Different question about the same thing; which is: Men gaining legal access behind ALL (not just some) doors marked "women".. Let me know when THAT survey question has been asked. Get back to me with those numbers...

Well "evesbodyman"?

 

[Evesbodyman]

About the poll that supposedly shows great support for men in women's bathrooms:

So I'd like to see the question. Know what I bet it was? "Would you object to men and women both using unisex bathrooms". Which already exist, so they'd say "no, as long as the cubicles or the door is lockable." Did the survey also ask "Would you object to men using women's showers, dorms and locker rooms as well"?

Different question about the same thing; which is: Men gaining legal access behind ALL (not just some) doors marked "women".. Let me know when THAT survey question has been asked. Get back to me with those numbers...

Well "evesbodyman"?

What about it? Have you found one? And since that's total garbage, why would anyone ask?

 

[Silhouette]

Because legal access, if granted, would also be extended to women's locker rooms, women's showers, women's dorms, women's sports teams...shall I go on? We want to ask polling questions of an informed public. Not of a misled public. Because then the poll results would also be misleading.

 

[Evesbodyman]

Because legal access, if granted, would also be extended to women's locker rooms, women's showers, women's dorms, women's sports teams...shall I go on? We want to ask polling questions of an informed public. Not of a misled public. Because then the poll results would also be misleading.

People like you are the very opposite of informed.

 

[Silhouette]

Because legal access, if granted, would also be extended to women's locker rooms, women's showers, women's dorms, women's sports teams...shall I go on? We want to ask polling questions of an informed public. Not of a misled public. Because then the poll results would also be misleading.

People like you are the very opposite of informed.

Great comeback. You know what would happen if women were asked about showers instead of just bathrooms.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Common human decency, and a desire to get my money.

Decency is about not being an asshole. If they were carrying Gay Pride flags your attitude would be the same, and their answer should be the same, shop elsewhere.

Well, both decency and non-assholery - not to mention common-sensical commerce - dictate showing some concern for the personal safety of one's customers, not to mention not making them feel profoundly uncomfortable, marginalized, and unwelcome.

As to your assumption about Gay Pride and my feelings thereon, or any ludicrous claims as to equivalency between "you have a Gay Pride flag" and "you have a penis and you're in the ladies' room", assumptions make an ass of you, not me. You've resoundingly proven that old adage true. When I want to hear the asinine opinions of an Internet troll as to who I am and what I think . . . well, I shall never want that.

Target has every right to say, "Fuck you, we don't want your money unless you shut up and act like our whore" to millions of women, but you are incorrect in your statement that they SHOULD say that. Only a dumbfuck who thinks his social agenda should be paramount in importance to OTHER people's money (because, of course, leftists always make these lofty pronouncements when they themselves have nothing to lose by it) would think that's not a completely insane way to conduct business. Unless you and the "vast" armies of transgenders are planning to make up for all that lost revenue, the only "should" here is you piping the fuck down.

If Target could make twice as much saying they don't serve coloreds, should they?

Or if they had this?

s?

If transgenders ever become a race, and thus black people have any fucking relevance to this conversation, should I let you drag them in and try to make it about them? Sure, why not? Call me when that happens, ass clown. Until then, get off your tangent and back on the subject.

The next post you make about black people in this thread will be seen as a surrender and admission of misogynistic malevolence on your part.

The topic is your desire to tell women what to do with their bodies and privacy. Discuss.

Telling you to relax when peeing with transgender people is not telling you what to do with your body anymore than telling you blacks are allowed to us those same toilets.

Why is it that a certain sort of "man" always says, "Just relax and get over it" when violating a woman's privacy in her own body and treating her like a piece of meat? Oh, I know. It's because they're evil, woman-hating, predatory pieces of shit.

And passing laws and government edicts allowing men into women's restrooms, with the only alternative for those women who don't want to become government-pandered strippers being simply never urinating anywhere but their own homes, most assuredly IS telling women what to do with their bodies.

That being said, I see that you decided to end your anti-female "shut the fuck up, bitch, and do as you're told" screed with a surrender and admission that you've lost the argument, so I guess we're done here. You may go back to watching rape porn or whatever it is needle-dicked woman-haters do with their free time. Shoo.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Because legal access, if granted, would also be extended to women's locker rooms, women's showers, women's dorms, women's sports teams...shall I go on? We want to ask polling questions of an informed public. Not of a misled public. Because then the poll results would also be misleading.

People like you are the very opposite of informed.

Great comeback. You know what would happen if women were asked about showers instead of just bathrooms.

More to the point, we know what would happen if women were actually faced with a man in the restroom or locker room, rather than just being asked a survey question they're too nice and too afraid to sound "bigoted" on.

 

[Evesbodyman]

Decency is about not being an asshole. If they were carrying Gay Pride flags your attitude would be the same, and their answer should be the same, shop elsewhere.

Well, both decency and non-assholery - not to mention common-sensical commerce - dictate showing some concern for the personal safety of one's customers, not to mention not making them feel profoundly uncomfortable, marginalized, and unwelcome.

As to your assumption about Gay Pride and my feelings thereon, or any ludicrous claims as to equivalency between "you have a Gay Pride flag" and "you have a penis and you're in the ladies' room", assumptions make an ass of you, not me. You've resoundingly proven that old adage true. When I want to hear the asinine opinions of an Internet troll as to who I am and what I think . . . well, I shall never want that.

Target has every right to say, "Fuck you, we don't want your money unless you shut up and act like our whore" to millions of women, but you are incorrect in your statement that they SHOULD say that. Only a dumbfuck who thinks his social agenda should be paramount in importance to OTHER people's money (because, of course, leftists always make these lofty pronouncements when they themselves have nothing to lose by it) would think that's not a completely insane way to conduct business. Unless you and the "vast" armies of transgenders are planning to make up for all that lost revenue, the only "should" here is you piping the fuck down.

If Target could make twice as much saying they don't serve coloreds, should they?

Or if they had this?

s?

If transgenders ever become a race, and thus black people have any fucking relevance to this conversation, should I let you drag them in and try to make it about them? Sure, why not? Call me when that happens, ass clown. Until then, get off your tangent and back on the subject.

The next post you make about black people in this thread will be seen as a surrender and admission of misogynistic malevolence on your part.

The topic is your desire to tell women what to do with their bodies and privacy. Discuss.

Telling you to relax when peeing with transgender people is not telling you what to do with your body anymore than telling you blacks are allowed to us those same toilets.

Why is it that a certain sort of "man" always says, "Just relax and get over it" when violating a woman's privacy in her own body and treating her like a piece of meat? Oh, I know. It's because they're evil, woman-hating, predatory pieces of shit.

And passing laws and government edicts allowing men into women's restrooms, with the only alternative for those women who don't want to become government-pandered strippers being simply never urinating anywhere but their own homes, most assuredly IS telling women what to do with their bodies.

That being said, I see that you decided to end your anti-female "shut the fuck up, bitch, and do as you're told" screed with a surrender and admission that you've lost the argument, so I guess we're done here. You may go back to watching rape porn or whatever it is needle-dicked woman-haters do with their free time. Shoo.

No one can fix paranoia like yours, that allows you to lie like a rug.

 

[Slade3200]

So I'd like to see the question. Know what I bet it was? "Would you object to men and women both using unisex bathrooms". Which already exist, so they'd say "no, as long as the cubicles or the door is lockable." Did the survey also as "Would you object to men using women's showers, dorms and locker rooms as well"?

Different question about the same thing; which is: Men gaining legal access behind ALL (not just some) doors marked "women".. Let me know when THAT survey question has been asked. Get back to me with those numbers...

Says the one who hasn't posted any polls or stats. How about you go find one that backs up your claims. I know why, you can't find one, and searching just gets you frustrated because you are Wrong!

 

[Silhouette]

Yes...frustrated because "I'm wrong"