Men in women's bathrooms

[LiberalSnowflake]

And I really don't get why everyone is sexualizing woman's bathrooms. Are there secret orgies going on in there or something? Because men's bathrooms are the least sexy places on the planet.

It's not just about restrooms. It's also about dressing rooms, locker rooms, communal bathing facilities, etc. It's about recognizing the “right” of a perverted high school boy to go into the girls' locker room while actual girls are in there fully exposed while undressing and showering.

But even then I don't see why people get so worked up over nudity. Not all nudity is sexual. Do people really get hot and bothered when, say, their doctor is opposite sex? Eh, whatever. If ensuring people don't end up in a bathroom with people they are attracted too is so important:

1. What about post-op passing trans folk? The sort where you need to get out your DNA sequencer to figure out what gender they were born as. Is it fair to place them in bathroom of their birth?

2. What about gay and bi people? You are much more likely to share a restroom with a gay person of your gender then a trans person. Should they be separated placed in the opposite sex location as well? What about bi people?

 

[P@triot]

And I really don't get why everyone is sexualizing woman's bathrooms. Are there secret orgies going on in there or something? Because men's bathrooms are the least sexy places on the planet.

It's not just about restrooms. It's also about dressing rooms, locker rooms, communal bathing facilities, etc. It's about recognizing the “right” of a perverted high school boy to go into the girls' locker room while actual girls are in there fully exposed while undressing and showering.

They already know that Bob Blaylock. But admit progressives who can't defend their bat-shit crazy, irrational positions, they have to attempt to change the narrative. It's all about "framing" the argument in a different way, as left-wing terrorist Bill Ayers likes to say.

 

[P@triot]

But even then I don't see why people get so worked up over nudity.

Of course you don't. You're a LWNJ. You have no concept of things like decency or modesty.

Do people really get hot and bothered when, say, their doctor is opposite sex?

No...but they do get uncomfortable. And that is the issue. Not "sex". As a typical LWHJ, you make it about sex.

 

[P@triot]

But even then I don't see why people get so worked up over nudity.

My little girls do not want to strip naked in front of boys or grown men. If you can't understand why, then you are a genuine fuck'n idiot.

Decent people don't want to live their life like porn stars. They want privacy. They want decency. And they don't give a shit if you don't like it. Deal with it.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

But even then I don't see why people get so worked up over nudity.

Of course you don't. You're a LWNJ. You have no concept of things like decency or modesty.

Do people really get hot and bothered when, say, their doctor is opposite sex?

No...but they do get uncomfortable. And that is the issue. Not "sex". As a typical LWHJ, you make it about sex.

I'm not the one going around and calling trans folk "sex perverts." Forgive me if I confuse all this rhetoric about trans people being aggressive sexual deviants as being some sort of sexual anxiety.

But even then I don't see why people get so worked up over nudity.

My little girls do not want to strip naked in front of boys or grown men. If you can't understand why, then you are a genuine fuck'n idiot.

Decent people don't want to live their life like porn stars. They want privacy. They want decency. And they don't give a shit if you don't like it. Deal with it.

Don't you think a trans women would be just as uncomfortable being surrounded by men, just as your little girls would? What about a butch lesbian who is confused for a trans person and shouted out of a restroom? These are serious questions, which Boyd seems to want to answer.

 

[P@triot]

Forgive me if I confuse all this rhetoric about trans people being aggressive sexual deviants as being some sort of sexual anxiety.

It's not about "trans people". Actual sexual predators are cashing in on these idiotic laws to more easily access victims. Think.

 

[P@triot]

Don't you think a trans women would be just as uncomfortable being surrounded by men, just as your little girls would?

There is no such thing as a "trans woman". Their chromosomes unequivocally prove they are male. Thus they belong in the men's room.

 

[P@triot]

What about a butch lesbian who is confused for a trans person and shouted out of a restroom?

First of all, in the history of restrooms, that has never happened. Second, if it were to happen, that's her fault for being so "butch". She deserves to get shouted out if she so drastically rejects her own DNA.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

Forgive me if I confuse all this rhetoric about trans people being aggressive sexual deviants as being some sort of sexual anxiety.

It's not about "trans people". Actual sexual predators are cashing in on these idiotic laws to more easily access victims. Think.

Of course this is about trans people. Do you think anti-discrimination bills are passed for funsies? Allowing trans people to use the bathroom of their choice helps them with their medical condition.

And in the 19-states which have these sorts of laws, there are has not been a spike in sexual assaults in restrooms in any of them.

Don't you think a trans women would be just as uncomfortable being surrounded by men, just as your little girls would?

There is no such thing as a "trans woman". Their chromosomes unequivocally prove they are male. Thus they belong in the men's room.

Gender dysphoria is an APA-recognized medical condition. It's right there in the DSM-V, along with everything from autism to schizophrenia. The suggested treatment is therapy and transition. What, is all of psychology a lie now?

What about a butch lesbian who is confused for a trans person and shouted out of a restroom?

First of all, in the history of restrooms, that has never happened. Second, if it were to happen, that's her fault for being so "butch". She deserves to get shouted out if she so drastically rejects her own DNA.

Yes it has. And short-haired women sometimes get a similar treatment. Very little of what we consider as looking "male" and "female" has anything to do with DNA. Hair length, makeup, clothing, foot-ware, piercings, and other methods of gender expression change drastically from culture to culture and from time period to time period.

And what- women's can't have short hair now? I thought this was America. Land of personal freedom.

 

[P@triot]

And what- women's can't have short hair now? I thought this was America. Land of personal freedom.

It is land of personal freedom. They have the freedom to wear their hair short, the other women have the freedom of speech to give them an earful.

And....most of all....my girls have the personal freedom to expect not having to get naked in front of sexual predators cashing in on these idiotic bathroom laws which deny science and promote the desires of the mentally ill.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

And what- women's can't have short hair now? I thought this was America. Land of personal freedom.

It is land of personal freedom. They have the freedom to wear their hair short, the other women have the freedom of speech to give them an earful.

And....most of all....my girls have the personal freedom to expect not having to get naked in front of sexual predators cashing in on these idiotic bathroom laws which deny science and promote the desires of the mentally ill.

Ahhh, and I see. So men have the freedom to barge in on a short-haired women peeing to make sure shes a woman (as per my third link). But trans folks don't have the freedom to use the bathroom that they anatomically resemble. Makes sense.

And promotes the treatment of the mentally ill you mean? Gender dysphoria is a mental illness- the solution to which is transitioning! As provided by the DSM-V no less!

And with fully transitioned, passing trans folk- how are you going to police them anyway? Ask for ID before entering the bathroom?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

But even then I don't see why people get so worked up over nudity. Not all nudity is sexual. Do people really get hot and bothered when, say, their doctor is opposite sex? Eh, whatever. If ensuring people don't end up in a bathroom with people they are attracted too is so important:

1. What about post-op passing trans folk? The sort where you need to get out your DNA sequencer to figure out what gender they were born as. Is it fair to place them in bathroom of their birth?

2. What about gay and bi people? You are much more likely to share a restroom with a gay person of your gender then a trans person. Should they be separated placed in the opposite sex location as well? What about bi people?

Why should sane, normal people have to sacrifice any measure of our modesty, dignity, and safety, to pander to a tiny minority of insane, immoral, perverted freaks?

Put the freaks I Institutions, so that us sane people can live as sane people.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

But even then I don't see why people get so worked up over nudity. Not all nudity is sexual. Do people really get hot and bothered when, say, their doctor is opposite sex? Eh, whatever. If ensuring people don't end up in a bathroom with people they are attracted too is so important:

1. What about post-op passing trans folk? The sort where you need to get out your DNA sequencer to figure out what gender they were born as. Is it fair to place them in bathroom of their birth?

2. What about gay and bi people? You are much more likely to share a restroom with a gay person of your gender then a trans person. Should they be separated placed in the opposite sex location as well? What about bi people?

Why should sane, normal people have to sacrifice any measure of our modesty, dignity, and safety, to pander to a tiny minority of insane, immoral, perverted freaks?

Put the freaks I Institutions, so that us sane people can live as sane people.

If you force trans people into their birth bathrooms- you will still have the problem of a fully transitioned same-gendered trans person making people in their birth bathroom uncomfortable. A trans man looks and acts like a man, but under bathroom-bill laws he would be forced (by law) to go into the women's bathroom. How is that not just as bad as this unproven risk of "perverted freaks" abusing these laws to sneak into women's bathrooms?

A person with gender dysphoria is no more immoral then a person with Asperger or depression. Its a mental illness. Psychiatric institutions are not really a solution to any but the most violent mental illnesses. They don't work, stigmatize people with curable diseases, and psychiatry has long moved away from them. But the psychiatric consensus, as written in the DSM-V, is clear on the matter of gender dysphoria: let them transition!

 

[P@triot]

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness- the solution to which is transitioning!

Really? So will you pass laws that force people to worship anyone who believes they are Jesus Christ? Since giving in to a mental illness and "transitioning" into a beard, long robes, sandals, and apostles is the "solution"?

No? Didn't think so. Disgusting hypocrite.

 

[P@triot]

If you force trans people into their birth bathrooms- you will still have the problem of a fully transitioned same-gendered trans person making people in their birth bathroom uncomfortable.

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? There shouldn't be any "fully transitioned" idiots running around as providing medications and/or surgery when not medically necessary is a major violation of the hippocratic oath.

 

[P@triot]

And with fully transitioned, passing trans folk- how are you going to police them anyway? Ask for ID before entering the bathroom?

Exactly!!! If they look sooooooo much like a woman, who would know anyway?!? Who would stop them? Why the need for these laws?!?

Because these idiotic laws aren't for the transgendered (as I've told you several times now). Fully heterosexual predators are using them for victims. And the Dumbocrats are facilitating it to continue their war on women.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness- the solution to which is transitioning!

Really? So will you pass laws that force people to worship anyone who believes they are Jesus Christ? Since giving in to a mental illness and "transitioning" into a beard, long robes, sandals, and apostles is the "solution"?

No? Didn't think so. Disgusting hypocrite.

You know for someone who likes to talk about decency a lot, you sure do throw insults around.

And get back to me when the psychiatric community recognizes "Jesus-dysphoria" as a psychiatric medical condition. Or recognizes "transitioning" as an important element of treating DID.

If you force trans people into their birth bathrooms- you will still have the problem of a fully transitioned same-gendered trans person making people in their birth bathroom uncomfortable.

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? There shouldn't be any "fully transitioned" idiots running around as providing medications and/or surgery when not medically necessary is a major violation of the hippocratic oath.

Except transition IS how gender dysphoria is treated. The psychiatric community DO recommend that as treatment for those who want to undergo it. To not allow the surgeries would cause harm to people.

And besides, it doesn't matter if our society accepts that or not- the technology to transition is there so trans people will seek it out. It's the nature of gender dysphoria. Trans people will shell out thousands of dollars to go to foreign countries, then come home looking different. So this "problem" is one we will have to deal with even if you think transitioning is immoral.

And with fully transitioned, passing trans folk- how are you going to police them anyway? Ask for ID before entering the bathroom?

Exactly!!! If they look sooooooo much like a woman, who would know anyway?!? Who would stop them? Why the need for these laws?!?

Because these idiotic laws aren't for the transgendered (as I've told you several times now). Fully heterosexual predators are using them for victims. And the Dumbocrats are facilitating it to continue their war on women.

No, it's because passing is hard. Some do it well, others don't. Some end up in an akward in-between places where their primary sex characteristics are all in place, but their secondary ones aren't (or vice-versa.) Some do all the surgery, look like their preferred sex, then get stuck with the opposite-sex voice. It's a tough lot.

 

[P@triot]

To not allow the surgeries would cause harm to people.

To not pass laws forcing society to worship anyone who believes they are Jesus Christ does harm to them. You don't seem to care about anyone unless they are sexually deviant.

You contradict yourself. If you're going to force little girls to get naked in front of grown men for the "comfort" of the grown men, then you damn well better demand that progressives be forced to worship anyone who believes they are Jesus Christ.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

To not allow the surgeries would cause harm to people.

To not pass laws forcing society to worship anyone who believes they are Jesus Christ does harm to them. You don't seem to care about anyone unless they are sexually deviant.

You contradict yourself. If you're going to force little girls to get naked in front of grown men for the "comfort" of the grown men, then you damn well better demand that progressives be forced to worship anyone who believes they are Jesus Christ.

It's not the same thing, silly, because that's not a recognized psychiatric condition whose treatment is transitioning.

Gender dysphoria is a medical condition according the the APA. You can't get around that by drawing false equivalencies to the odd hypothetical. If people do a bunch of research into Jesusphoria and find out that it isn't just DID but a distinct medical condition relieved only by transitioning into Jesus Christ- then we can talk about ethics.

And your still not providing a solution that completely fixes the problem you made up. If someone has a male personality, male hormones, and a male body, but gets shuffled into a woman's bathroom thanks to the Bathroom Police- hows that any better then the nightmare scenario you keep describing?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

It's not the same thing, silly, because that's not a recognized psychiatric condition whose treatment is transitioning.

Gender dysphoria is a medical condition according the the APA. You can't get around that by drawing false equivalencies to the odd hypothetical. If people do a bunch of research into Jesusphoria and find out that it isn't just DID but a distinct medical condition relieved only by transitioning into Jesus Christ- then we can talk about ethics.

What other psychiatric condition is there for which it is deemed a valid treatment to force sane people to sacrifice their own comfort, safely, privacy,and dignity in order to cater to the delusions of the one who is insane?