Mexico Preparing for War Against Trump?

[bripat9643]

After a 13% drop in the value of the Peso, precipitated by the Trump's election, Mexico has reiterated that they will not be paying for Trump's wall. The people were warned of very hard times are coming to Mexico.

A bill will be introduced today in the Mexican Senate to retaliate against anticipated moves against the Mexican people by Trump. This bill includes measures to: expropriate property owned by Americans in Mexico in proportion to the Trump planned blockage of up to 25 billion dollars in transfers from the US to Mexico. Expropriation can effect a million Americans living in Mexico as well business interest.

His bill also includes the automatic review of 75 treaties with the US if Trump backs out of NAFTA. These treaties contain language that provides for cooperation of the two countries at ports of entry, sharing of intelligence about criminal activity including terrorism threats, accepting deportees, and extradition. These treaties include land exchange at borders and areas of joint administration.

Attempting to calm fears, President Enrique Pena Nieto said on Twitter he was ready to work with Trump, calling the neighboring countries friends who "should continue to work together for the competitiveness and development of North America".

They WILL pay for the wall ... whether it be by writing a check, losing US funds, or loss of business.

One way or the other ... Mexico will be held accountable for their actions.

I would be ashamed to admit that the United States is not capable of defending it's own boarders and has to resort to extorting money from a country as poor as Mexico to do so.

It doesn't have to, but we can. Tough shit for Mexico.

 

[paulitician]

Impossible. Too many scumbag US Corporations operate in Mexico. Mexico ain't giving that up. A War with the US can't benefit it any way. Not to mention, it's far too weak and corrupt to conduct any kind of effective War. The War would be over in just a couple days.

So, Mexico should just get on board with contributing to a vastly improved border security system. It's time for it to do its part. But should it choose not to contribute, Trump will have to take steps to make sure it happens.

 

[Divine Wind]

After a 13% drop in the value of the Peso, precipitated by the Trump's election, Mexico has reiterated that they will not be paying for Trump's wall. The people were warned of very hard times are coming to Mexico.

A bill will be introduced today in the Mexican Senate to retaliate against anticipated moves against the Mexican people by Trump. This bill includes measures to: expropriate property owned by Americans in Mexico in proportion to the Trump planned blockage of up to 25 billion dollars in transfers from the US to Mexico. Expropriation can effect a million Americans living in Mexico as well business interest.

His bill also includes the automatic review of 75 treaties with the US if Trump backs out of NAFTA. These treaties contain language that provides for cooperation of the two countries at ports of entry, sharing of intelligence about criminal activity including terrorism threats, accepting deportees, and extradition. These treaties include land exchange at borders and areas of joint administration.

Attempting to calm fears, President Enrique Pena Nieto said on Twitter he was ready to work with Trump, calling the neighboring countries friends who "should continue to work together for the competitiveness and development of North America".

Where's the declaration of war by Mexico or military preparations to attack?

 

[bripat9643]

these lefty people are funny , first they laughed at the thought Trump , then they got nervous , then for the last day or 2 they are getting teary eyed and bawling / crying their eyes out , Its pretty funny eh ??

Trump has got a hard tow. 1. He didn't win the popular vote so he will be referred to as the Illegitimate President for the next 4 years. 2. Republicans like trade agreements--they have always had a pro attitude for them, so he's not going to be able to take on the North American Trade agreement with Mexico & Canada. He may be able to do something with China to stop their currency maneuvers but that's about it. 3. Republicans would never approve of tarrifs on American or foreign goods, as all that does is raise the price to consumers and doesn't create a single job.

So a lot of the things Trump has campaigned on will not be approved by Republican Senate and House members--and they have already stated that.

Trump's best bet is to take on Obamacare over the next two years, while he has agreement in both houses. Because in 2018 he will have an opposing majority in both houses that will hog tie him for the remaining 2 years. If he wanders off into wall building, and mass deportations, and NAFTA, he won't get anything done with Obamacare.

Your belief that he can't do all of those is absurd, of course. The only thing he has to do with Obamacare is repeal it.

 

[bripat9643]

these lefty people are funny , first they laughed at the thought Trump , then they got nervous , then for the last day or 2 they are getting teary eyed and bawling / crying their eyes out , Its pretty funny eh ??

Trump has got a hard tow. 1. He didn't win the popular vote so he will be referred to as the Illegitimate President for the next 4 years. 2. Republicans like trade agreements--they have always had a pro attitude for them, so he's not going to be able to take on the North American Trade agreement with Mexico & Canada. He may be able to do something with China to stop their currency maneuvers but that's about it. 3. Republicans would never approve of tarrifs on American or foreign goods, as all that does is raise the price to consumers and doesn't create a single job.

So a lot of the things Trump has campaigned on will not be approved by Republican Senate and House members--and they have already stated that.

Wow, so Hillary lost because she ran for the popular vote? We haven't had that stupid a candidate since Gore did that. Wow, Democrats sure nominate idiots. No wonder they lost

Hilary lost because stupid Americans voted for Trump! I warned you people in 2000 and 2004 about Bush, and I was correct. I warned you again in 2016, and I pray it won't be worse then Bush for you.

Hillary was the warmonger candidate, not Trump.

 

[paulitician]

After a 13% drop in the value of the Peso, precipitated by the Trump's election, Mexico has reiterated that they will not be paying for Trump's wall. The people were warned of very hard times are coming to Mexico.

A bill will be introduced today in the Mexican Senate to retaliate against anticipated moves against the Mexican people by Trump. This bill includes measures to: expropriate property owned by Americans in Mexico in proportion to the Trump planned blockage of up to 25 billion dollars in transfers from the US to Mexico. Expropriation can effect a million Americans living in Mexico as well business interest.

His bill also includes the automatic review of 75 treaties with the US if Trump backs out of NAFTA. These treaties contain language that provides for cooperation of the two countries at ports of entry, sharing of intelligence about criminal activity including terrorism threats, accepting deportees, and extradition. These treaties include land exchange at borders and areas of joint administration.

Attempting to calm fears, President Enrique Pena Nieto said on Twitter he was ready to work with Trump, calling the neighboring countries friends who "should continue to work together for the competitiveness and development of North America".

Where's the declaration of war by Mexico or military preparations to attack?

All bluster, no action. It is time for Mexico to do its part on border security. It's had a free ride for too long. And if it chooses not to contribute to the costs, Trump will have to take actions that make it happen.

 

[bripat9643]

The point is not Mexicans in China, the point is the wall and how married Trump is to it.

No, the joke was just that a wall isn't that big of a deal. We aren't talking about the walls of Jericho here. This wall isn't going to be 40-50 feet high. People are going to still have to be paid to patrol the wall just like they patrol the borders now. Then you have people that will just dig under the fence... or build ladders to climb over them. You really want to stop immigrants from crossing the borders? Hell, put out land mines! After a couple border hoppers see their buddies blow up into a red mist, they'll start thinking twice huh?

No, a 2,000 mile wall that runs through mountainous terrain, and deserts, that will breakup communities, farms, grazing land, destroy the habit of dozens of endangered species and cost 25 billion dollars is a big deal. If it becomes the linchpin that drives the two nations apart, the economic damage will be even greater to both countries.

If we do build this wall, people will look back on the Trump Wall as a colossal mistake for several reasons. Illegal immigration is in a down trend and has been for several years. The growing shortage of cheap Mexican labor will become a critical shortage both in Mexico and the US in less than 20 years. We may well be inviting the very people we are deporting today to come back and the call to "Tear Down that Wall" will once again be heard.

Yeah, maybe I'm coming across wrong, but I don't support the wall.

There are much more cost effective ways to secure the border than building a WALL that can always be compromised. Today our electronics can pick up anyone trying to cross if they have warning in advance. Frankly I don't know why we can't situate National Guard all along our borders for training purposes instead of them being located within states.

When G.W. Bush put the National Guard on the border "attempted crossings dropped by 67%. IOW if they know they're there they won't even attempt it.

Arrest, convict, and incarcerate employers knowingly hiring illegals.

typical leftwinger: You want to punish Americans rather then the people committing the crime.

 

[paulitician]

these lefty people are funny , first they laughed at the thought Trump , then they got nervous , then for the last day or 2 they are getting teary eyed and bawling / crying their eyes out , Its pretty funny eh ??

Trump has got a hard tow. 1. He didn't win the popular vote so he will be referred to as the Illegitimate President for the next 4 years. 2. Republicans like trade agreements--they have always had a pro attitude for them, so he's not going to be able to take on the North American Trade agreement with Mexico & Canada. He may be able to do something with China to stop their currency maneuvers but that's about it. 3. Republicans would never approve of tarrifs on American or foreign goods, as all that does is raise the price to consumers and doesn't create a single job.

So a lot of the things Trump has campaigned on will not be approved by Republican Senate and House members--and they have already stated that.

Wow, so Hillary lost because she ran for the popular vote? We haven't had that stupid a candidate since Gore did that. Wow, Democrats sure nominate idiots. No wonder they lost

Hilary lost because stupid Americans voted for Trump! I warned you people in 2000 and 2004 about Bush, and I was correct. I warned you again in 2016, and I pray it won't be worse then Bush for you.

Hillary was the warmonger candidate, not Trump.

Yeah, her and her boss Soros wanted WWIII. They've been pushing hard for a new Cold War with Russia. Hopefully, Trump will go a different route. A new Cold War with Russia is completely unnecessary.

 

[pismoe]

these lefty people are funny , first they laughed at the thought Trump , then they got nervous , then for the last day or 2 they are getting teary eyed and bawling / crying their eyes out , Its pretty funny eh ??

Trump has got a hard tow. 1. He didn't win the popular vote so he will be referred to as the Illegitimate President for the next 4 years. 2. Republicans like trade agreements--they have always had a pro attitude for them, so he's not going to be able to take on the North American Trade agreement with Mexico & Canada. He may be able to do something with China to stop their currency maneuvers but that's about it. 3. Republicans would never approve of tarrifs on American or foreign goods, as all that does is raise the price to consumers and doesn't create a single job.

So a lot of the things Trump has campaigned on will not be approved by Republican Senate and House members--and they have already stated that.

Wow, so Hillary lost because she ran for the popular vote? We haven't had that stupid a candidate since Gore did that. Wow, Democrats sure nominate idiots. No wonder they lost

Hilary lost because stupid Americans voted for Trump! I warned you people in 2000 and 2004 about Bush, and I was correct. I warned you again in 2016, and I pray it won't be worse then Bush for you.

Hillary was the warmonger candidate, not Trump.

Yeah, her and her boss Soros wanted WWIII. They've been pushing hard for a new Cold War with Russia. Hopefully, Trump will go a different route. A new Cold War with Russia is completely unnecessary.

------------------------------------------------------------- yeah , cold war with Russia seems stupid . Whats wrong with working with Russia . Hilary , bushes , Clinton probably wouldn't like it but the USA fighting the war with Russia in Syria and different areas on certain things , whats wrong with that ?? [serious question]

 

[Tresha91203]

Now would not be the time to visit Mexico....and I feel for those people who have vacation/retirement homes down there.

And Ford and other manufacturers who have built shiny new multi-million and billion dollar plants?

Mexico is not stupid enough to steal US Corporation Mfg plants, not even over correcting remittences, which is what Trump means by them paying for it.

A nation has every right to address remittances. If Mexico seized our plants, no country would do business with them and the US would seize Mexican's assets in the US.

They're not going to seize anything just like Trump is not going set aside NAFTA because it would create a financial crisis for both countries. It's the threat that's important because that creates uncertainly in business and financial market and that put's pressure on your opponent. Welcome to Trump's world of big deals. The stakes are big but so are risks.

Hahaha. You think Trump is *introducing* this strategy of manipulating business/financial markets for political advantage? The US has been doing this for a long time and FAILING. At least the Donald knows The Art of the Deal.

I'm saying it would be foolish of Trump to create a financial crisis over this. He may be a racist, bully, and xenophobe but he is no fool. For the new president to send the DOW down a couple thousand points would certainly not help him. Neither republicans in congress nor Wall Street share his desire to dump NAFTA. The country could easlily drop into a recession and that is no way to start your presidency.

Did we get crossed? I'm talking about mexico not starting a war with us over the wall.

 

[kaz]

Wow, so Hillary lost because she ran for the popular vote? We haven't had that stupid a candidate since Gore did that. Wow, Democrats sure nominate idiots. No wonder they lost

Hilary lost because stupid Americans voted for Trump! I warned you people in 2000 and 2004 about Bush, and I was correct. I warned you again in 2016, and I pray it won't be worse then Bush for you.

Yes, you are a true legend...........in your own mind.

If being correct makes me a legend, than so be it. Of course you can't refute anything I wrote which makes you, what?

Keep emoting if it leads to some kind of eventual acceptance of politically 'what you cannot change' in the next four years. That's a healthy process. And, your emoting has no predictive and logical relevance, anyways.

Policy that only helps the wealthy is healthy for America?

That has nothing to do with anything we've ever discussed

 

[kaz]

Wow, so Hillary lost because she ran for the popular vote? We haven't had that stupid a candidate since Gore did that. Wow, Democrats sure nominate idiots. No wonder they lost

Hilary lost because stupid Americans voted for Trump! I warned you people in 2000 and 2004 about Bush, and I was correct. I warned you again in 2016, and I pray it won't be worse then Bush for you.

Yes, you are a true legend...........in your own mind.

If being correct makes me a legend, than so be it. Of course you can't refute anything I wrote which makes you, what?

You couldn't even get your username right ...

My income per year is more than you'll make in your lifetime, so yes, my username is correct.

Your income per year less government freebies is my bubblegum allowance in the 70s

 

[Tresha91203]

Now would not be the time to visit Mexico....and I feel for those people who have vacation/retirement homes down there.

And Ford and other manufacturers who have built shiny new multi-million and billion dollar plants?

Mexico is not stupid enough to steal US Corporation Mfg plants, not even over correcting remittences, which is what Trump means by them paying for it.

A nation has every right to address remittances. If Mexico seized our plants, no country would do business with them and the US would seize Mexican's assets in the US.

They're not going to seize anything just like Trump is not going set aside NAFTA because it would create a financial crisis for both countries. It's the threat that's important because that creates uncertainly in business and financial market and that put's pressure on your opponent. Welcome to Trump's world of big deals. The stakes are big but so are risks.

Hahaha. You think Trump is *introducing* this strategy of manipulating business/financial markets for political advantage? The US has been doing this for a long time and FAILING. At least the Donald knows The Art of the Deal.

When has the 'Art of the Deal' NOT lead to bankruptcy?

He's had a dozen business failures out of 500. Much better success rate than Hillary.

 

[OnePercenter]

Penalties aren't enough. Incarceration needs to be added.

Nah...it doesnt do the job market any good if business's get shut down over it.
Hit em in the pocket hard enough and it will stop.

If one or two business owners go to jail, how long do you think that every business owner will clean up their act?

Citi and Chase have been fined 10's of millions, yet they still continued to robo-sign. Recently Wells Fargo did the same thing, got find, fired employees following company directives, and the CEO retired with a multi-billion dollar walkaway deal.

Base the fines on company income.
The taco stand gets a 5k fine and the large corporation gets a 5mill fine.

Jail time is the only thing that will work.

Oh bullshit.
You put a mans/womens work of a lifetime at risk and I guarantee they'll follow the rules.

I don't want to close a business, I want them to think about what they did for 30-90 days.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Nah...it doesnt do the job market any good if business's get shut down over it.
Hit em in the pocket hard enough and it will stop.

If one or two business owners go to jail, how long do you think that every business owner will clean up their act?

Citi and Chase have been fined 10's of millions, yet they still continued to robo-sign. Recently Wells Fargo did the same thing, got find, fired employees following company directives, and the CEO retired with a multi-billion dollar walkaway deal.

Base the fines on company income.
The taco stand gets a 5k fine and the large corporation gets a 5mill fine.

Jail time is the only thing that will work.

Oh bullshit.
You put a mans/womens work of a lifetime at risk and I guarantee they'll follow the rules.

I don't want to close a business, I want them to think about what they did for 30-90 days.

What if it's a business that relies on the owner to make the company work? As is the case in a lot of small businesses.
That company will fold. Far better to hit him in the pocket book and still allow him/her to keep afloat for the benefit of the workers and the owner as well as the tax base.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Mexico going to war? I don't think they're that stupid. They would wake up from the first siesta being presented with congratulations on becoming an American citizen and a bill for back taxes.

The last thing we want to do is make Mexico part of the United States.

Really? Why? I think we should annex everything down to and including the Panama Canal.

 

[bripat9643]

Mexico going to war? I don't think they're that stupid. They would wake up from the first siesta being presented with congratulations on becoming an American citizen and a bill for back taxes.

The last thing we want to do is make Mexico part of the United States.

Really? Why? I think we should annex everything down to and including the Panama Canal.

Because then a bunch of corrupt Mexicans will become American citizens, and that's the last thing we need.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Mexico going to war? I don't think they're that stupid. They would wake up from the first siesta being presented with congratulations on becoming an American citizen and a bill for back taxes.

The last thing we want to do is make Mexico part of the United States.

Really? Why? I think we should annex everything down to and including the Panama Canal.

Because then a bunch of corrupt Mexicans will become American citizens, and that's the last thing we need.

We've already got more than our share of Mexicans living here. Companies that left for cheap labor would be right back in the country. A southern border at Panama would be much easier to protect. And it would also greatly expand our tax base.

 

[OnePercenter]

After a 13% drop in the value of the Peso, precipitated by the Trump's election, Mexico has reiterated that they will not be paying for Trump's wall. The people were warned of very hard times are coming to Mexico.

A bill will be introduced today in the Mexican Senate to retaliate against anticipated moves against the Mexican people by Trump. This bill includes measures to: expropriate property owned by Americans in Mexico in proportion to the Trump planned blockage of up to 25 billion dollars in transfers from the US to Mexico. Expropriation can effect a million Americans living in Mexico as well business interest.

His bill also includes the automatic review of 75 treaties with the US if Trump backs out of NAFTA. These treaties contain language that provides for cooperation of the two countries at ports of entry, sharing of intelligence about criminal activity including terrorism threats, accepting deportees, and extradition. These treaties include land exchange at borders and areas of joint administration.

Attempting to calm fears, President Enrique Pena Nieto said on Twitter he was ready to work with Trump, calling the neighboring countries friends who "should continue to work together for the competitiveness and development of North America".

Now would not be the time to visit Mexico....and I feel for those people who have vacation/retirement homes down there.

It's their fault for deciding to live large in a corrupt country. The reason why it is so cheap down there is because it sucks. Third world countries do.

The reason it's so corrupt is that it's full of Mexicans.

And Canada has corruption because they have Canadians?

 

[OnePercenter]

There won't be any wall. It's symbolic. Bottom line is we're going to hold Mexico accountable, and that means dollars.

and....

if there is a wall ....let it be

I have no problem with walls!

Again! We don't need a wall. Arrest, convict, and incarcerate employers knowingly hiring undocumented.

Let's see if Trump can walk the walk. I'm not holding my breath.

Trump won the election, so we're getting the wall, douche bag.

Trump is building a wall on the US/Canadian border?