Minimum wage

[danielpalos]

what if your too stupid to do anything else?

Are you smart enough to do anything productive enough that people will pay you to do so?

LOL....

We know you're not. We're trying to educate you in spite of your chosen handicap.

BTW, You choose to be stupid. People here have been trying to educate you.

let's say im not lets say I'm barely smart enough to push a broom or flip a burger? what should I do?

Harass the Judicature for equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will in our at-will employment States, so you can apply for unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour, to learn how to do something, eventually.

 

[Lastamender]

42% of americans earn less than $15 per hour

Join the Fight for 15 today!

Fight for $15

Who is going to pay them without losing their business? If business shuts down there will be 0 an hour for those people.

If business can Only make it on cheap labor, how good can it be?

And, if some businesses fail, doesn't that mean there is more business for the businesses that remain?

There is a profit margin in every business. Making it on cheap labor is just part of the struggle a businessman faces.
You cannot pass these costs on to consumers for long.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I don't feel bad for people who never aspire to do more than put french fries and burgers in paper bags for a living it's their choice to be unskiiled

social services pays the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour.

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably, for rational choice theory purposes.

why do you assume low skill workers will receive social services

most don't

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

42% of americans earn less than $15 per hour

Join the Fight for 15 today!

Fight for $15

The fight for $15 is the fight for automation!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Don't work for minimum wage all your life assholes. Try getting some skills and work experience.

There will always be minimum wage people, they're required to get other people rich, in case you didn't notice.

They're required to do the shit low level jobs any moron can accomplish in the hope they gain some work ethic and motivation to do better. In case you didn't notice.

A minimum wage job is not what you should have as your life goal to settle into and actually expect to raise a family and retire sailing the seas. That's not possible if all you can do is flip a burger when the timer tells you to.

So what should stupid people do? not everyone can be a brain surgeon

You don't have to be a Dr for a good job.
Ask Obama where those jobs are.
And yes people who sweep floors don't deserve more.

what if your too stupid to do anything else?

Then you become a Democrat and push for $15/hour.
Because economics is beyond you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Clearly isn't enough if you have to work between 53 and 92 hours at minimum wage simply to be able to afford accommodation.

clearly if you can't make more than MW you need to attain the skills that will garner more pay in the marketplace

Again, the problem is that there will always be minimum wage workers, and people should be able to afford accommodation, food etc, right? We're not talking about having the latest smart phone here, we're talking about a roof over your head, something everyone who is working should be able to afford with 1/3 of their wage.

Again, the problem is that there will always be minimum wage workers

Boot 20 million illegals and the number of jobs available to American low-skill workers will increase.
Wages for some will increase due to supply and demand.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

what if your too stupid to do anything else?

Are you smart enough to do anything productive enough that people will pay you to do so?

LOL....

We know you're not. We're trying to educate you in spite of your chosen handicap.

BTW, You choose to be stupid. People here have been trying to educate you.

let's say im not lets say I'm barely smart enough to push a broom or flip a burger? what should I do?

Harass the Judicature for equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will in our at-will employment States, so you can apply for unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour, to learn how to do something, eventually.

equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will in our at-will employment States, so you can apply for unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour

If you quit you at-will job, you're eligible for at-will unemployment benefits.
The government exercises their will and has decided your benefit is $0. LOL!

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

what if your too stupid to do anything else?

Are you smart enough to do anything productive enough that people will pay you to do so?

LOL....

We know you're not. We're trying to educate you in spite of your chosen handicap.

BTW, You choose to be stupid. People here have been trying to educate you.

let's say im not lets say I'm barely smart enough to push a broom or flip a burger? what should I do?

Share an apartment with a couple of other morons.

 

[TheDude]

Clearly isn't enough if you have to work between 53 and 92 hours at minimum wage simply to be able to afford accommodation.

Liberal states are the most expensive. Who'd have expected?

 

[danielpalos]

Clearly isn't enough if you have to work between 53 and 92 hours at minimum wage simply to be able to afford accommodation.

clearly if you can't make more than MW you need to attain the skills that will garner more pay in the marketplace

that is not the point. the point is social services provide the equivalent to around fourteen dollars an hour; it is why we need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, for those market based metrics.

 

[danielpalos]

Clearly isn't enough if you have to work between 53 and 92 hours at minimum wage simply to be able to afford accommodation.

clearly if you can't make more than MW you need to attain the skills that will garner more pay in the marketplace

Again, the problem is that there will always be minimum wage workers, and people should be able to afford accommodation, food etc, right? We're not talking about having the latest smart phone here, we're talking about a roof over your head, something everyone who is working should be able to afford with 1/3 of their wage.

we could be solving simple poverty on an at-will basis; the right doesn't like it because it involves too much Individual Liberty for their national and social, ambitions.

 

[danielpalos]

Clearly isn't enough if you have to work between 53 and 92 hours at minimum wage simply to be able to afford accommodation.

clearly if you can't make more than MW you need to attain the skills that will garner more pay in the marketplace

Again, the problem is that there will always be minimum wage workers, and people should be able to afford accommodation, food etc, right? We're not talking about having the latest smart phone here, we're talking about a roof over your head, something everyone who is working should be able to afford with 1/3 of their wage.

If your skills don't allow you to earn what you need to support yourself then you have 2 options, work more hours or attain skills that will merit a higher pay

Where is it written that one 40 hour a week job has to be enough to pay all your bills?

Firstly, the US isn't doing enough to get people the skills that they need. Secondly the rich want people to be poor so they can work these minimum wage jobs and make others rich. Again, we're a society, shouldn't we at least make sure that people can afford a fucking roof over their head if they are actually being productive and actually making other people rich?

What kind of a selfish world do we live in where we say to people that 40 or even 50 hours isn't even enough to get a roof over their head, no matter what kind of work they're doing. The right moans and bitches that people don't work, then when they do work they couldn't give a fuck about whether it's actually worth their while to do so.

it's not the government's responsibility to get people skills. never was never will be

it's YOUR responsibility to improve yourself

it is simply easier to do, on unemployment compensation if there is no easy and convenient job available.

 

[danielpalos]

42% of americans earn less than $15 per hour

Join the Fight for 15 today!

Fight for $15

Who is going to pay them without losing their business? If business shuts down there will be 0 an hour for those people.

If business can Only make it on cheap labor, how good can it be?

And, if some businesses fail, doesn't that mean there is more business for the businesses that remain?

There is a profit margin in every business. Making it on cheap labor is just part of the struggle a businessman faces.
You cannot pass these costs on to consumers for long.

Isn't Capitalism wonderful; the Firms that remain, will be stronger and hopefully, better.

 

[danielpalos]

I don't feel bad for people who never aspire to do more than put french fries and burgers in paper bags for a living it's their choice to be unskiiled

social services pays the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour.

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably, for rational choice theory purposes.

why do you assume low skill workers will receive social services

most don't

care to cite your statistics.

why does the right complain about the cost of social services.

 

[danielpalos]

42% of americans earn less than $15 per hour

Join the Fight for 15 today!

Fight for $15

The fight for $15 is the fight for automation!

A more efficient economy, what a concept. It is why we need unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed.

 

[danielpalos]

what if your too stupid to do anything else?

Are you smart enough to do anything productive enough that people will pay you to do so?

LOL....

We know you're not. We're trying to educate you in spite of your chosen handicap.

BTW, You choose to be stupid. People here have been trying to educate you.

let's say im not lets say I'm barely smart enough to push a broom or flip a burger? what should I do?

Harass the Judicature for equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will in our at-will employment States, so you can apply for unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour, to learn how to do something, eventually.

equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will in our at-will employment States, so you can apply for unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour

If you quit you at-will job, you're eligible for at-will unemployment benefits.
The government exercises their will and has decided your benefit is $0. LOL!

Natural rights mean nothing if there are no guns involved; Person on the fantastical, right wing?

 

[danielpalos]

Clearly isn't enough if you have to work between 53 and 92 hours at minimum wage simply to be able to afford accommodation.

Liberal states are the most expensive. Who'd have expected?

Which States are the biggest welfare queens?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

what if your too stupid to do anything else?

Are you smart enough to do anything productive enough that people will pay you to do so?

LOL....

We know you're not. We're trying to educate you in spite of your chosen handicap.

BTW, You choose to be stupid. People here have been trying to educate you.

let's say im not lets say I'm barely smart enough to push a broom or flip a burger? what should I do?

Harass the Judicature for equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will in our at-will employment States, so you can apply for unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour, to learn how to do something, eventually.

equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will in our at-will employment States, so you can apply for unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour

If you quit you at-will job, you're eligible for at-will unemployment benefits.
The government exercises their will and has decided your benefit is $0. LOL!

Natural rights mean nothing if there are no guns involved; Person on the fantastical, right wing?

Natural rights

Have fuck all to do with your whining for free money.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Clearly isn't enough if you have to work between 53 and 92 hours at minimum wage simply to be able to afford accommodation.

Clearly you didnt spend enough time and energy in an education or learning a skill if you can only get a minimum wage job.
Lets see how it works if we start looking at the cause of a problem before we try to fix it.

 

[Andylusion]

Clearly isn't enough if you have to work between 53 and 92 hours at minimum wage simply to be able to afford accommodation.

clearly if you can't make more than MW you need to attain the skills that will garner more pay in the marketplace

Again, the problem is that there will always be minimum wage workers, and people should be able to afford accommodation, food etc, right? We're not talking about having the latest smart phone here, we're talking about a roof over your head, something everyone who is working should be able to afford with 1/3 of their wage.

If you have no skills, and refuse to get skills... if you refuse to work hard enough to earn more than minimum wage... then you get what you get.

That's how life works. If you hire someone to put a roof on your home, and he shows up late, barely works, takes a smoke break every 15 minutes... for 15 minutes... and does just barely enough to make do.....

when that guy comes to you and says you need to pay him $200 a day, and it will take him all month to do your roof.... will you pay it?

Similarly, are you going to pay $20 for a cheap fast food burger, because the pot smoking high school drop out, can't live on minimum wage?

Because this is the reality. You pay the bill. YOU do.

Over in Norway, the cost of a fast food burger from McDonald is $16. They pay their employees $16/hour.

All the cost of that labor is passed onto you. So when you demand employees earn more money, you are demanding you yourself pay them. You are the one who pays that bill.

Are you going to pay $16 for a cheap low quality burger? Most people are not. I can personally speak from experience. I used to go to Chipotle before the minimum wage went up. A chicken burrito used to be $4.75. Today after the minimum wage has gone up, it's $6.90. I don't go there anymore. That's too expensive.

This is why Norway has a tiny fraction of the fast food stores that we do. It's not because "Europeans eat more healthy!" and all the made up BS people claim.

It's simply that it's too expensive. No one is going to pay $16 for a really cheap low quality burger.

We know that because they do buy cheaper low quality foods. Norway has a booming Hot Dog business. Because self-employed Hot Dog vendors are all over Norway.
The Girl Who Ate Everything: Bergen, Day 3: Hot Dogs, Lung Malfunction, and Potetkjelleren

Since they are self-employed, the hot dogs are cheaper than burgers. So hot dogs are very popular, while McDonalds is not.

The minimum wage would have about the same effect here in the long wrong. More people would be standing out in the rain, and cold, selling hot dogs, and more people would be unemployed looking for work since low-paying jobs at stores wouldn't exist.

Seattle's minimum wage hike, has had exactly the effect that we predicted it would, that economists for thousands of years said it would.

We were right, and have been proven right by the facts.

The only question is will the left-wing have the moral integrity and mental capacity to admit it.