Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

[Conservative65]

Whose forcing her to have a kid? There is a choice available. If she chooses to have it, why is it someone else's responsibility to pay for a choice she said was none of our business?

Because we agree that feeding hungry children is our responsibility.

Remember, the tax money is ours. Not yours.

We're not giving her assistance, we're forced to fund a choice she told us was none of our business. Personal responsibility doesn't end when the choice is made.

We've *agreed* to feed a hungry child. That you don't want to is irrelevant. As we make the rules. Not you.

Deal with it.

You've agreed to pay for someone else's mistakes. The problem is you did it with money that doesn't belong to you.

I've offered once and will do it again. If you think mine belongs to you to decide, come try and get it. You won't like the answer. Guaranteed and you won't have a choice in the matter nor will you be able to deal with it. When ya coming?

and we paid for the radical right's mistakes and are still paying for them in the middle east.

get over it.

You mean the ones many Democrats supported and for which there is a Constitutional delegated authority to do so. So much for the left's claim to support the Constitution. You want to lessen things in it and increase things that aren't.

you should probably read the resolution since you clearly don't know what it said. but no doubt listening to bush/cheney's lies was a mistake.

I know that many Democrats voted for it and said exactly what Bush said and said so before Bush was President.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

im ok with under 3 month abortion

Of course you are. Most ME have no respect for life.

 

[Conservative65]

im ok with under 3 month abortion

The fetus isn't any less alive.

so funny how you gubmint haters hate rules... except for gubmint imposing your extremist religious values on the rest of the country.

What religious laws are forced on you. Provide a list.

 

[jillian]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

Pro-choice advocates want it to be the woman's choice, not the state's.

You mean the woman's choice to kill the baby.

Wrong.

An embryo/fetus is not a 'baby.'

Yes, it is life. You're wrong

in your view. life exists on a continuum from two cells to birth. you don't get to decide what that is.

the ONLY question is when the governmental interest exceeds our own

and that's been settled for a long time.

notwithstanding yet another fraudulent article in life news.

 

[Conservative65]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

Religious extremist white males should get out of women's personal decisions.

Not the life ewes is. Credible source.

If you don't want an abortion don't have one.

Leave everyone else alone.

If you can't afford kids, don't have them. Get out of my wallet. If you can't feed your own kids, don't have them. If you have them and can't feed them, either find some bleeding heart, good luck, or do without, tough shit.

so you force someone to have a kid they can't afford? and then say screw them let them live in poverty, wacko?

how about we stop paying for your viagra.

again, radial religious rightwing men should get out of women's business. you wackos haven't been able to tolerate, since the '60's, women not needing you to make their decisions for them... not need men to control them, not need men to own them by not letting women control their own bodies

make your own decisions.

btw, you're disgusting and immoral. what did women do to you that you hate them so much?

or is it that men aren't allowed to beat women into submission anymore that you resent?

Try taking personal responsibility and get past we have to pay for your poor choices.

Idiots like jillian make it out as if a woman doesn't have a choice. As of today, January 24, 2016, she has a choice. If she makes one she can't afford, those same idiots think the rest of us should be responsible for something we were told was none of our business.

 

[Conservative65]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

Pro-choice advocates want it to be the woman's choice, not the state's.

You mean the woman's choice to kill the baby.

Wrong.

An embryo/fetus is not a 'baby.'

Yes, it is life. You're wrong

in your view. life exists on a continuum from two cells to birth. you don't get to decide what that is.

the ONLY question is when the governmental interest exceeds our own

and that's been settled for a long time.

notwithstanding yet another fraudulent article in life news.

But you think you do. I give more worth to two cells than I give to your entire existence.

 

[Conservative65]

Whose forcing her to have a kid? There is a choice available. If she chooses to have it, why is it someone else's responsibility to pay for a choice she said was none of our business?

Because we agree that feeding hungry children is our responsibility.

Remember, the tax money is ours. Not yours.

We're not giving her assistance, we're forced to fund a choice she told us was none of our business. Personal responsibility doesn't end when the choice is made.

We've *agreed* to feed a hungry child. That you don't want to is irrelevant. As we make the rules. Not you.

Deal with it.

You've agreed to pay for someone else's mistakes.

We have agreed to feed a hungry child. Remember, we made the decisions. Not you. We decide the tax rates. We decide how the money is spent.

Not you. As the money is ours. Not yours.

See how that works?

The problem is you did it with money that doesn't belong to you.

Says who? Who says that tax money doesn't belong to the State?

Is this another one of those Sovereign Citizen horseshit 'taxation is theft' arguments? If so, just tell us upfront rather than making us draw it out of you one grudging step at a time.

If the money is yours, come get it pussy. Don't have the guts? Didn't think so.

Laughing.....so you don't pay taxes, huh? Good luck with that.

We can't agree to do something when all of us aren't doing it. You don't pay the taxes that fund the programs you demand be given to bitches having bastards they can't afford. You aren't part of the we. You think you are but you aren't. Deal with it.

We don't have to agree. As you're nobody. Your agreement is gloriously irrelevant to this entire process. A woman still gets to choose her own reproduction. We still get to collect taxes and decide how its spent. As the money is ours. Not yours.

If you don't like it, leave. As we're neither stripping a woman of her right to chose nor letting kids starve. Dismissing your false dichotomy as the pseudo-legal gibberish it is.

You don't pay the ones that fund what you think the rest of us do. If you do, prove it.

 

[9aces]

You're willing to give the woman the sole choice.

Over the use of her own body? Who else would I give that choice to? You, making the decision for her?

Um, no. You're nobody in this scenario.

Do you require sole responsibility of that woman with all aspects and results of that choice? In other words, if she chooses to do something and can't afford it, are you saying the rest of us don't have to fund it for her? Unless you are, that's hypocritical because what you're saying is others should butt out except when the woman needs financial help.

Would you recognize a woman's right to choose if she didn't take any public benefits?

Since that won't happen or until it does, no.

So your entire argument is irrelevant to your stance on a woman's right to choose. Convenient. Your argument is also rrelevant to my stance on a woman's right to choose.

Both go together.

Obviously they don't. As even if a woman isn't on public benefits and you pay for nothing....you'd still deny her the right to choose for herself. Demonstrating how gloriously irrelevant they are, even in your own mind.

And certainly they have no relevance in the law.

Your problem is, she's not choosing only for herself.

She's choosing for her child. And that choice is death.

 

[9aces]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

So you support a woman's right to choose?

Choose what? She CHOSE to have sex. EVERYTHING has a consequence for an action....have sex possibly get pregnant,drive drunk possibly kill someone,shoot someone possibly kill them...amazing how you can take the life in the 2nd and 3rd one and be sent to prison but not the first. Guess a babies innocent isn't as worth as much as an adults.

So a child is a consequence....a punishment for sexual activity

It's a result that's the responsibility of those that CHOSE to have sex. Baby killers like you treat it like one that you're willing to kill.

Sex is a normal human activity.....been going on for hundreds of thousands of years

Raising a child is a major responsibliity ....something not to be taken lightly

It is a woman's choice

So if it's a woman's choice to kill her unborn child. Why is it not her choice to kill said child after it's born without consequence?

There is no difference at any point in the process, by her choice a human being dies.

 

[9aces]

Where did I say that?

Right here:

Since that won't happen or until it does, no. With her sole choice comes sole responsibility.

So no, you wouldn't acknowledge a woman's right to choose even if she wasn't on benefits. Making your entire argument irrelevant. As even you ignore you.

So you misrepresent what I said? Not surprised. If someone is not on benefits, I don't know what choices they make and can't say anything about what someone does if I don't know they are doing it.

Then a woman's right to choose is predicated on your knowledge of her existence?

Huh. Why would your knowledge of her existence be the determining factor of her rights?

Still misrepresenting what I said.

Until you're going to be honest, at least stop being a fucking retard.

She can have all the abortions she wants with a coat hanger. Deal with it. If she does it wrong, at least she won't have the chance to do it again.

Or she can go to a doctor and have a medically induced abortion. Which is much, much safer.

And you are nobody, having no say of any part of her choice. Deal with it.

You're fine with killing human beings as part of a procedure. Your stance is human beings have no right to live. Is that where you really want to go?

 

[9aces]

Then it's a woman's responsibility. Glad to see you agree that the taxpayers shouldn't be required to support a woman's kid she chose to have. When should my taxes go down?

I find the antiabortion crowd to be hypocrites in doing everything they can to block a woman from having an abortion and then bitching that they have to help support it if she decides to keep it

As of January 24, 2016, a woman can have an abortion. If she has kids, that's a choice on the same level as having an abortion. It's not blocked as of today. That means, as of TODFAY, I don't owe her children support. In fact, since 1973 when it was made legal, no one owes any children a woman has support. It was her choice because she had an option. That's what you morons don't get. You say we should still support something because abortion is still legal.

What crime have the children committed?

What crime have mine committed that makes me responsible for supporting kids that aren't mine.

You aren't responsible. We are. And we are because we say we are. You disagree with us. So fucking what? Democracy is about we. Not just you. And we have the authority to levy taxes. And the authority to spend that tax money to feed children.

That you don't like it is irrelevant. Why you don't like it is irrelevant. We've decided otherwise. If you don't like it, leave.

But we're neither giving you power over all women's bodies nor letting kids starve. Or accepting your false dichotomy as anything more than meaningless gibberish.

Hate to break it to you cupcake....this isn't a Democracy.

 

[9aces]

Its interesting

But people like me need to exist so the bitch can have someone to do for her kids what the bitch won't do herself.

The 'bitch', huh? You mean the new mother? The one so poor she needs help to feed herself and her child?

Apparently you're taking Christ's admonition of 'Suffer little children' a little too literally.

Until the State does something to earn that money instead of taking it, it's mine. The state has no money until they take it. They don't earn a damn thing.

Except that it isn't. Its *ours*. We make the decision. Not you alone. And we've disagreed with you. And since we have way more power than you do, we get to make these decisions on where tax money is spent....as the money is ours.

But tell us again how little children should starve and die on coat hangers so there will be 'less to feed'. Just so I can get the conservative perspective on the matter.

She becomes a bitch the moment she demands someone else fund the results of a choice she said was none of their business.

We're not letting children starve because you don't get to tell women what they can do with their own bodies.

Its a false dichotomy. There are many other choices. For example, give a woman the freedom to make her own choices. AND feed hungry children.

That's the choice we've made. We weren't limited to the two you gave us.

See how that works?

It's not you. It's all those you want to be responsible because some bitch chose to have kids she can't afford. That you would fund the results of a choice someone told you was none of your business proves you're an idiot.

Like I said, I'd let you starve and watch.

Of course you would. You'd probably enjoy it. As you're locked into a fallacy of false dichotomy. Where either you get to tell all women how they can use their own bodies or let children starve to death.

But here's the flaw in your reasoning: you're nobody.

And just because you've crippled yourself with your false dichotomy doesn't mean that we're similarly obligated to do the same. We have *way* more choices than the two you've allowed yourself.

And we make the rules. Not you. See how that works?

Slavery was legal once...you thought that was a good idea too.

 

[dani67]

im ok with under 3 month abortion

Of course you are. Most ME have no respect for life.

what life? under 3 month isnt life
+
isis dont agree with me.like you

 

[9aces]

im ok with under 3 month abortion

The fetus isn't any less alive.

so funny how you gubmint haters hate rules... except for gubmint imposing your extremist religious values on the rest of the country.

We hate stupid rules.

Things like slavery, which liberals like you love.

Slaughtering innocents, because it's wrong, which liberals like you love.

We believe it putting the consequences of the behavior on the individuals, where it belongs. If a woman wants to kill her unborn child, and you're happy about this because it's legal, well it's legal and one day hopefully you're going to wise up. I'm not expecting that though.

But make zero mistake about what happens in an abortion. A woman chooses death for her child. You can mask it with sophistry and deception, but it doesn't chance the scientific truth that is questioned by no one. Her child dies.

 

[rightwinger]

I find the antiabortion crowd to be hypocrites in doing everything they can to block a woman from having an abortion and then bitching that they have to help support it if she decides to keep it

As of January 24, 2016, a woman can have an abortion. If she has kids, that's a choice on the same level as having an abortion. It's not blocked as of today. That means, as of TODFAY, I don't owe her children support. In fact, since 1973 when it was made legal, no one owes any children a woman has support. It was her choice because she had an option. That's what you morons don't get. You say we should still support something because abortion is still legal.

What crime have the children committed?

What crime have mine committed that makes me responsible for supporting kids that aren't mine. Every dime that I have less to go to mine because of that takes from them. Now, retards like Bernie Sanders think taxpayers like me should fund college for them. Don't owe them that either. I don't someone else's kids a damn thing and crime has nothing to do with it. The woman made the choice to have them as of today with an option of abortion. If she chose, she pays.

Guess what?

You belong to a society, our society takes care of the less fortunate

What else would you expect from the wealthiest nation on earth?[/QUOTE}

The society argument is bullshit. If belonging to society means being responsible, that applies to everyone including those who make choices with their bodies.

I would expect those who make choices to pay for them. Society doesn't owe someone an easier way because the choices they made were bad.

Our society has decided to help those who need helping. We have also decided to have the lowest taxes on our wealthy in 75 years

You don't like one, I don't like the other

 

[Preacher]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

Religious extremist white males should get out of women's personal decisions.

Not the life news is a cedible source.

If you don't want an abortion don't have one.

Leave everyone else alone. and worry about children AFTER they're born, not in utero.

Ah the ranting of a baby murdering advocate....the country will be better off when the disease that invades the brains of morons like these is eradicated.

 

[dani67]

i dont understand.
for example
under 15 girl is pregnant.and just 3 month
are you disagree with abortion?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

"Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound"

And as usual most conservatives miss the point.

The right to privacy concerns the right to make personal decisions absent unwarranted interference from the state; that includes the decision to have an abortion, or to not have an abortion, where the decision to have an abortion is just as appropriate as deciding not to.

Moreover, this anecdotal account is in no way 'justification' to mandate through force of law that a woman view an ultrasound as a condition of exercising her right to privacy; indeed, such mandates have been permanently enjoined in two states.

Liberals always justify murder and demand the law allow them to council in favor of abortion but not allow space for alternative counciling. All the while demanding $500 million from taxpayers.

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

Point well taken. More hypocrisy of the left. That's shy when we talke back power, we implement these regulation regardless of what they want.

Nope. Hypocrisy is saying one thing but thinking something else. I say that women should have the right to make their own reproductive choices. And I think the exact same thing.

And we expect a ultrasound first. Perfect compromise and fair to the baby whose life may be terminated.

 

[9aces]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

Pro-choice advocates want it to be the woman's choice, not the state's.

You mean the woman's choice to kill the baby.

Wrong.

An embryo/fetus is not a 'baby.'

Yes, it is life. You're wrong

in your view. life exists on a continuum from two cells to birth. you don't get to decide what that is.

the ONLY question is when the governmental interest exceeds our own

and that's been settled for a long time.

notwithstanding yet another fraudulent article in life news.

It's a scientific fact that from 2 cells to birth that's an individual human being, unique in all respects and genetically complete from the moment of conception.

Have a problem with that? Argue with the sciences of Genetics, Taxonomy, Human Physiology, Biology, etc.

A is A.

 

[Skylar]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

Religious extremist white males should get out of women's personal decisions.

Not the life ewes is. Credible source.

If you don't want an abortion don't have one.

Leave everyone else alone.

If you can't afford kids, don't have them. Get out of my wallet. If you can't feed your own kids, don't have them. If you have them and can't feed them, either find some bleeding heart, good luck, or do without, tough shit.

so you force someone to have a kid they can't afford? and then say screw them let them live in poverty, wacko?

how about we stop paying for your viagra.

again, radial religious rightwing men should get out of women's business. you wackos haven't been able to tolerate, since the '60's, women not needing you to make their decisions for them... not need men to control them, not need men to own them by not letting women control their own bodies

make your own decisions.

btw, you're disgusting and immoral. what did women do to you that you hate them so much?

or is it that men aren't allowed to beat women into submission anymore that you resent?

Try taking personal responsibility and get past we have to pay for your poor choices.

Idiots like jillian make it out as if a woman doesn't have a choice. As of today, January 24, 2016, she has a choice. If she makes one she can't afford, those same idiots think the rest of us should be responsible for something we were told was none of our business.

As do we. And we choose not to let these children starve as you insist we must.