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He couldn't have owned guns himself so it had everything to do with it. Thanks to her gun owning children were slaughtered.So, because of a few accidents, women should not be allowed a tool to defend themselves?
Should we ban cars, because they cause lethal accidents?
Doctors, because they have accidents?
(Did you know there are more deaths attributed to malpractice than guns?)
Swimming pools?
Allowed? Who said anything about not allowing anything? It simply isn't a good idea for many obviously. When your protection kills or injures a family member that isn't good. And it seems to happen very often. Far more than you hear of anyone protecting their family that is for sure.
DEATHS caused by guns are by .01% of the total of civilian owned guns in this country.
Accidental deaths are less than half that.
Til you come up with a machine that can foretell when someone is going to use a firearm in a crime, or a firearm is going to 'accidently' be used to kill someone, you are infringing on a Right of someone to own a firearm.
I was pretty clear that I wasn't saying anything about not allowing. I am not infringing on anything. But it is quite clear that for many it is a bad idea to own. Adam's Lanza's mom had guns for defense, look at the slaughter that caused.
His mother owning guns had nothing to do with the slaughter since thousands of Americans have large collections of guns and not one of them is ever used to harm another human....you are a gun grabbing extremist, who pushes the agenda without lowering himself to references to sex organs...but a gun grabber you are.....
You push gun grabbing in a reasonable voice....but your desire to infringe on the right to bear arms is in every post.
He couldn't have owned guns himself so it had everything to do with it. Thanks to her gun owning children were slaughtered.So, because of a few accidents, women should not be allowed a tool to defend themselves?
Should we ban cars, because they cause lethal accidents?
Doctors, because they have accidents?
(Did you know there are more deaths attributed to malpractice than guns?)
Swimming pools?
Allowed? Who said anything about not allowing anything? It simply isn't a good idea for many obviously. When your protection kills or injures a family member that isn't good. And it seems to happen very often. Far more than you hear of anyone protecting their family that is for sure.
DEATHS caused by guns are by .01% of the total of civilian owned guns in this country.
Accidental deaths are less than half that.
Til you come up with a machine that can foretell when someone is going to use a firearm in a crime, or a firearm is going to 'accidently' be used to kill someone, you are infringing on a Right of someone to own a firearm.
I was pretty clear that I wasn't saying anything about not allowing. I am not infringing on anything. But it is quite clear that for many it is a bad idea to own. Adam's Lanza's mom had guns for defense, look at the slaughter that caused.
His mother owning guns had nothing to do with the slaughter since thousands of Americans have large collections of guns and not one of them is ever used to harm another human....you are a gun grabbing extremist, who pushes the agenda without lowering himself to references to sex organs...but a gun grabber you are.....
You push gun grabbing in a reasonable voice....but your desire to infringe on the right to bear arms is in every post.
Post where I have ever suggested any gun grabbing. Stop with the childish name calling. Seems that and swearing is all you have now.
So, because of a few accidents, women should not be allowed a tool to defend themselves?
Should we ban cars, because they cause lethal accidents?
Doctors, because they have accidents?
(Did you know there are more deaths attributed to malpractice than guns?)
Swimming pools?
Allowed? Who said anything about not allowing anything? It simply isn't a good idea for many obviously. When your protection kills or injures a family member that isn't good. And it seems to happen very often. Far more than you hear of anyone protecting their family that is for sure.
You are a gun grabber brain....
The total number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was only 505 people...out of a country of over 320 million people with over 320 million guns in private hands.
On top of that, over 12.8 million people carry guns for self defense...
How many children are killed in accidental gun deaths in 2013....69.
Out of a country of over 320 million people
So brain, you are an idiot.
I see so over 500 lives mean nothing to you. Doesn't matter that we have 500 more accidental deaths than any other civilized country. Why don't you imagine 500 of your closest friends and family being killed tomorrow then tell me it's not a big number.
Fuck you brain....how about you imagine your closest friends and family murdered in front of you because you were not allowed to have a gun....2 million people a year, on average stop violent criminal attack and save lives because they have guns.......
So, because of a few accidents, women should not be allowed a tool to defend themselves?
Should we ban cars, because they cause lethal accidents?
Doctors, because they have accidents?
(Did you know there are more deaths attributed to malpractice than guns?)
Swimming pools?
Allowed? Who said anything about not allowing anything? It simply isn't a good idea for many obviously. When your protection kills or injures a family member that isn't good. And it seems to happen very often. Far more than you hear of anyone protecting their family that is for sure.
You are a gun grabber brain....
The total number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was only 505 people...out of a country of over 320 million people with over 320 million guns in private hands.
On top of that, over 12.8 million people carry guns for self defense...
How many children are killed in accidental gun deaths in 2013....69.
Out of a country of over 320 million people
So brain, you are an idiot.
I see so over 500 lives mean nothing to you. Doesn't matter that we have 500 more accidental deaths than any other civilized country. Why don't you imagine 500 of your closest friends and family being killed tomorrow then tell me it's not a big number.
Fuck you brain....how about you imagine your closest friends and family murdered in front of you because you were not allowed to have a gun....2 million people a year, on average stop violent criminal attack and save lives because they have guns.......
I have lived a long time and I don't know a SINGLE person who has needed a gun for defense. So that really isn't a problem. You haven't even needed one. 2 million is a mythical number. You can't even show it is possible mathematically. Stop being so pathetic and using it.
So, because of a few accidents, women should not be allowed a tool to defend themselves?
Should we ban cars, because they cause lethal accidents?
Doctors, because they have accidents?
(Did you know there are more deaths attributed to malpractice than guns?)
Swimming pools?
Allowed? Who said anything about not allowing anything? It simply isn't a good idea for many obviously. When your protection kills or injures a family member that isn't good. And it seems to happen very often. Far more than you hear of anyone protecting their family that is for sure.
You are a gun grabber brain....
The total number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was only 505 people...out of a country of over 320 million people with over 320 million guns in private hands.
On top of that, over 12.8 million people carry guns for self defense...
How many children are killed in accidental gun deaths in 2013....69.
Out of a country of over 320 million people
So brain, you are an idiot.
I see so over 500 lives mean nothing to you. Doesn't matter that we have 500 more accidental deaths than any other civilized country. Why don't you imagine 500 of your closest friends and family being killed tomorrow then tell me it's not a big number.
Fuck you brain....how about you imagine your closest friends and family murdered in front of you because you were not allowed to have a gun....2 million people a year, on average stop violent criminal attack and save lives because they have guns.......
I have lived a long time and I don't know a SINGLE person who has needed a gun for defense. So that really isn't a problem. You haven't even needed one. 2 million is a mythical number. You can't even show it is possible mathematically. Stop being so pathetic and using it.
and we shouldn't let soldiers have guns because of this guy, right?
You believe a child or untrained civilian is the same as soldier?
Why do the nutters always believe that guns should not be handled safely? You could have simply pointed out that she was indeed handling the gun in an unsafe manner but instead, you immediately defended it.
Did you read the caption of your own photo?
Do you think he or the woman in the photo I posted are qualified to teach gun safety?
More to the point, you fools DO believe that every person who wants a gun should have easy access to as many as they want.
You have the opportunity to talk about safety and being responsible and taking responsibility but you never do. In this thread, as well as every other on the subject, you climb over the bodies of dead babies to spout numbers and make lame excuses about cars and swimming pools - as though that matters to the families of the dead.
No one ever talks about "gun grabbing" or "banning" but you hide behind that lie because you DO want criminals, terrorists, illegals, mentally ill and yes, CHILDREN to have any and all they guns they want.
You defend the indefensible.
He couldn't have owned guns himself so it had everything to do with it. Thanks to her gun owning children were slaughtered.Allowed? Who said anything about not allowing anything? It simply isn't a good idea for many obviously. When your protection kills or injures a family member that isn't good. And it seems to happen very often. Far more than you hear of anyone protecting their family that is for sure.
DEATHS caused by guns are by .01% of the total of civilian owned guns in this country.
Accidental deaths are less than half that.
Til you come up with a machine that can foretell when someone is going to use a firearm in a crime, or a firearm is going to 'accidently' be used to kill someone, you are infringing on a Right of someone to own a firearm.
I was pretty clear that I wasn't saying anything about not allowing. I am not infringing on anything. But it is quite clear that for many it is a bad idea to own. Adam's Lanza's mom had guns for defense, look at the slaughter that caused.
His mother owning guns had nothing to do with the slaughter since thousands of Americans have large collections of guns and not one of them is ever used to harm another human....you are a gun grabbing extremist, who pushes the agenda without lowering himself to references to sex organs...but a gun grabber you are.....
You push gun grabbing in a reasonable voice....but your desire to infringe on the right to bear arms is in every post.
Post where I have ever suggested any gun grabbing. Stop with the childish name calling. Seems that and swearing is all you have now.
Fuck you brain. There is nothing to show he couldn't have gotten a gun on his own, and thanks to the gun owning of many more, lives have been saved and violent criminals stopped.
Allowed? Who said anything about not allowing anything? It simply isn't a good idea for many obviously. When your protection kills or injures a family member that isn't good. And it seems to happen very often. Far more than you hear of anyone protecting their family that is for sure.
You are a gun grabber brain....
The total number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was only 505 people...out of a country of over 320 million people with over 320 million guns in private hands.
On top of that, over 12.8 million people carry guns for self defense...
How many children are killed in accidental gun deaths in 2013....69.
Out of a country of over 320 million people
So brain, you are an idiot.
I see so over 500 lives mean nothing to you. Doesn't matter that we have 500 more accidental deaths than any other civilized country. Why don't you imagine 500 of your closest friends and family being killed tomorrow then tell me it's not a big number.
Fuck you brain....how about you imagine your closest friends and family murdered in front of you because you were not allowed to have a gun....2 million people a year, on average stop violent criminal attack and save lives because they have guns.......
I have lived a long time and I don't know a SINGLE person who has needed a gun for defense. So that really isn't a problem. You haven't even needed one. 2 million is a mythical number. You can't even show it is possible mathematically. Stop being so pathetic and using it.
And guns are the most effective tool to for a woman to use to prevent rape...
And here we have studies that show that guns are the most effective way to stop a rape.....
Guns Effective Defense Against Rape
A woman using a gun is less likely to be raped and more likely to not be injured during the attack....
Guns Effective Defense Against Rape
However, most recent studies with improved methodology are consistently showing that the more forceful the resistance, the lower the risk of a completed rape, with no increase in physical injury. Sarah Ullman's original research (Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 1998) and critical review of past studies (Criminal Justice and Behavior, 1997) are especially valuable in solidifying this conclusion.
I wish to single out one particular subtype of physical resistance: Use of a weapon, and especially a firearm, is statistically a woman's best means of resistance, greatly enhancing her odds of escaping both rape and injury, compared to any other strategy of physical or verbal resistance. This conclusion is drawn from four types of information.
First, a 1989 study (Furby, Journal of Interpersonal Violence) found that both male and female survey respondents judged a gun to be the most effective means that a potential rape victim could use to fend off the assault. Rape "experts" considered it a close second, after eye-gouging.
Second, raw data from the 1979-1985 installments of the Justice Department's annual National Crime Victim Survey show that when a woman resists a stranger rape with a gun, the probability of completion was 0.1 percent and of victim injury 0.0 percent, compared to 31 percent and 40 percent, respectively, for all stranger rapes (Kleck, Social Problems, 1990).
Third, a recent paper (Southwick, Journal of Criminal Justice, 2000) analyzed victim resistance to violent crimes generally, with robbery, aggravated assault and rape considered together. Women who resisted with a gun were 2.5 times more likely to escape without injury than those who did not resist and 4 times more likely to escape uninjured than those who resisted with any means other than a gun. Similarly, their property losses in a robbery were reduced more than six-fold and almost three-fold, respectively, compared to the other categories of resistance strategy.
Fourth, we have two studies in the last 20 years that directly address the outcomes of women who resist attempted rape with a weapon. (Lizotte, Journal of Quantitative Criminology, 1986; Kleck, Social Problems, 1990.) The former concludes,"Further, women who resist rape with a gun or knife dramatically decrease their probability of completion." (Lizotte did not analyze victim injuries apart from the rape itself.) The latter concludes that "resistance with a gun or knife is the most effective form of resistance for preventing completion of a rape"; this is accomplished "without creating any significant additional risk of other injury."
The best conclusion from available scientific data, then, is when avoidance of rape has failed and one must choose between being raped and resisting, a woman's best option is to resist with a gun in her hands.
********************
So, again a woman's best chance for stopping the rape and ultimately surviving the situation is to use a gun.....
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He couldn't have owned guns himself so it had everything to do with it. Thanks to her gun owning children were slaughtered.DEATHS caused by guns are by .01% of the total of civilian owned guns in this country.
Accidental deaths are less than half that.
Til you come up with a machine that can foretell when someone is going to use a firearm in a crime, or a firearm is going to 'accidently' be used to kill someone, you are infringing on a Right of someone to own a firearm.
I was pretty clear that I wasn't saying anything about not allowing. I am not infringing on anything. But it is quite clear that for many it is a bad idea to own. Adam's Lanza's mom had guns for defense, look at the slaughter that caused.
His mother owning guns had nothing to do with the slaughter since thousands of Americans have large collections of guns and not one of them is ever used to harm another human....you are a gun grabbing extremist, who pushes the agenda without lowering himself to references to sex organs...but a gun grabber you are.....
You push gun grabbing in a reasonable voice....but your desire to infringe on the right to bear arms is in every post.
Post where I have ever suggested any gun grabbing. Stop with the childish name calling. Seems that and swearing is all you have now.
Fuck you brain. There is nothing to show he couldn't have gotten a gun on his own, and thanks to the gun owning of many more, lives have been saved and violent criminals stopped.
It is clear what happened with the guns his mother chose to own. Sane people would say it was really bad.
Here is what to do if you want to prevent rape:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/12/h...ntion-program-proves-a-rare-success.html?_r=0
And nobody will get accidently shot.
You are a gun grabber brain....
The total number of accidental gun deaths in 2013 was only 505 people...out of a country of over 320 million people with over 320 million guns in private hands.
On top of that, over 12.8 million people carry guns for self defense...
How many children are killed in accidental gun deaths in 2013....69.
Out of a country of over 320 million people
So brain, you are an idiot.
I see so over 500 lives mean nothing to you. Doesn't matter that we have 500 more accidental deaths than any other civilized country. Why don't you imagine 500 of your closest friends and family being killed tomorrow then tell me it's not a big number.
Fuck you brain....how about you imagine your closest friends and family murdered in front of you because you were not allowed to have a gun....2 million people a year, on average stop violent criminal attack and save lives because they have guns.......
I have lived a long time and I don't know a SINGLE person who has needed a gun for defense. So that really isn't a problem. You haven't even needed one. 2 million is a mythical number. You can't even show it is possible mathematically. Stop being so pathetic and using it.
And guns are the most effective tool to for a woman to use to prevent rape...
And here we have studies that show that guns are the most effective way to stop a rape.....
Guns Effective Defense Against Rape
A woman using a gun is less likely to be raped and more likely to not be injured during the attack....
Guns Effective Defense Against Rape
However, most recent studies with improved methodology are consistently showing that the more forceful the resistance, the lower the risk of a completed rape, with no increase in physical injury. Sarah Ullman's original research (Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 1998) and critical review of past studies (Criminal Justice and Behavior, 1997) are especially valuable in solidifying this conclusion.
I wish to single out one particular subtype of physical resistance: Use of a weapon, and especially a firearm, is statistically a woman's best means of resistance, greatly enhancing her odds of escaping both rape and injury, compared to any other strategy of physical or verbal resistance. This conclusion is drawn from four types of information.
First, a 1989 study (Furby, Journal of Interpersonal Violence) found that both male and female survey respondents judged a gun to be the most effective means that a potential rape victim could use to fend off the assault. Rape "experts" considered it a close second, after eye-gouging.
Second, raw data from the 1979-1985 installments of the Justice Department's annual National Crime Victim Survey show that when a woman resists a stranger rape with a gun, the probability of completion was 0.1 percent and of victim injury 0.0 percent, compared to 31 percent and 40 percent, respectively, for all stranger rapes (Kleck, Social Problems, 1990).
Third, a recent paper (Southwick, Journal of Criminal Justice, 2000) analyzed victim resistance to violent crimes generally, with robbery, aggravated assault and rape considered together. Women who resisted with a gun were 2.5 times more likely to escape without injury than those who did not resist and 4 times more likely to escape uninjured than those who resisted with any means other than a gun. Similarly, their property losses in a robbery were reduced more than six-fold and almost three-fold, respectively, compared to the other categories of resistance strategy.
Fourth, we have two studies in the last 20 years that directly address the outcomes of women who resist attempted rape with a weapon. (Lizotte, Journal of Quantitative Criminology, 1986; Kleck, Social Problems, 1990.) The former concludes,"Further, women who resist rape with a gun or knife dramatically decrease their probability of completion." (Lizotte did not analyze victim injuries apart from the rape itself.) The latter concludes that "resistance with a gun or knife is the most effective form of resistance for preventing completion of a rape"; this is accomplished "without creating any significant additional risk of other injury."
The best conclusion from available scientific data, then, is when avoidance of rape has failed and one must choose between being raped and resisting, a woman's best option is to resist with a gun in her hands.
********************
So, again a woman's best chance for stopping the rape and ultimately surviving the situation is to use a gun.....
***********************
As I have proven to you many times most rapes aren't even defendable with a gun. Stop spreading your lies.
And an actual real world example of how women learning to own and carry guns lowered the rape rate.....
http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Firearms/Data/Crime/Florida/Gun Ownership Stops Rape/
http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Firearms/Data/Crime/Florida/Gun Ownership Stops Rape/
In Orlando, Florida, in 1966 a series of brutal rapes swept the
community. Citizens reacted to the tripling in the rate of rape
over the previous year by buying handguns for self-defense; 200-300
firearms were being purchased each week from dealers, and an unknown
number more from private parties.
The newspaper there, the _Orlando
Sentinel Star_, had an anti-gun editorial stance and tried to pressure
the local police chief and city government to stop the flow of arms.
When that tactic failed, the paper decided that in the interest of
public safety, they would sponsor a gun-training seminar in conjunction
with the local police. Plans were made for a one-day training course at
a local city park.
Plans were made for an expected 400-500 women. However,
more than 2500 women arrived, and brought with them every conceivable
kind of firearm. They had to park many blocks away, and the weapons
were carried in in purses, paper bags, boxes, briefcases, holsters,
and womens' hands. One police officer present said he'd never been so
scared in his life. [It must have been quite a sight!
Swamped, the organizers hastily dismissed the women with promises for
a more thorough course with scheduled appointments. The course offered
was for three classes/week, and within 6 months, the Orlando police had
trained more than 6000 women in basic pistol marksmanship and the law
of self-defense.
The results?
In 1966 there were 36 rapes in Orlando, triple the 1965 rate. In 1967,
there were 4.
Before the training, rape rates had been increasing in
Orlando as nationwide.
5 years after the training, rape was still
below pre-training levels in Orlando, but up 308% in the surrounding
areas, 96% for Florida overall, and 64% nationally.
Also in 1967, violent assault and burglary decreased by 25% in Orlando,
in addition to the rape reductions.
In 1967, NOT A SINGLE WOMAN HAD FIRED HER WEAPON in self-defense. In
1967, NOT A SINGLE WOMAN HAD TURNED HER GUN ON HER HUSBAND OR BOYFRIEND.
(No data are available for later years.)
The reason the program worked so spectacularly well is that it was
widely known that Orlando women had the means and training to defend
themselves from attackers. Rapists, being (somewhat) human, they are
learning engines; they took their business elsewhere--to the detriment
of the defenseless in those other locations.
Department of Justice victim studies show that overall, when rape is
attempted, the completion rate is 36%. But when a woman defends herself
with a gun, the completion rate drops to 3%.
And for 19.95 you can read Southwick's 2000 study on guns that talk about rape.....
Self-defense with guns: The consequences
This one gives the actual percentages of how rapes are stopped...guns come out on top...
http://medind.nic.in/jal/t07/i4/jalt07i4p99.pdf
I see so over 500 lives mean nothing to you. Doesn't matter that we have 500 more accidental deaths than any other civilized country. Why don't you imagine 500 of your closest friends and family being killed tomorrow then tell me it's not a big number.
Fuck you brain....how about you imagine your closest friends and family murdered in front of you because you were not allowed to have a gun....2 million people a year, on average stop violent criminal attack and save lives because they have guns.......
I have lived a long time and I don't know a SINGLE person who has needed a gun for defense. So that really isn't a problem. You haven't even needed one. 2 million is a mythical number. You can't even show it is possible mathematically. Stop being so pathetic and using it.
And guns are the most effective tool to for a woman to use to prevent rape...
And here we have studies that show that guns are the most effective way to stop a rape.....
Guns Effective Defense Against Rape
A woman using a gun is less likely to be raped and more likely to not be injured during the attack....
Guns Effective Defense Against Rape
However, most recent studies with improved methodology are consistently showing that the more forceful the resistance, the lower the risk of a completed rape, with no increase in physical injury. Sarah Ullman's original research (Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 1998) and critical review of past studies (Criminal Justice and Behavior, 1997) are especially valuable in solidifying this conclusion.
I wish to single out one particular subtype of physical resistance: Use of a weapon, and especially a firearm, is statistically a woman's best means of resistance, greatly enhancing her odds of escaping both rape and injury, compared to any other strategy of physical or verbal resistance. This conclusion is drawn from four types of information.
First, a 1989 study (Furby, Journal of Interpersonal Violence) found that both male and female survey respondents judged a gun to be the most effective means that a potential rape victim could use to fend off the assault. Rape "experts" considered it a close second, after eye-gouging.
Second, raw data from the 1979-1985 installments of the Justice Department's annual National Crime Victim Survey show that when a woman resists a stranger rape with a gun, the probability of completion was 0.1 percent and of victim injury 0.0 percent, compared to 31 percent and 40 percent, respectively, for all stranger rapes (Kleck, Social Problems, 1990).
Third, a recent paper (Southwick, Journal of Criminal Justice, 2000) analyzed victim resistance to violent crimes generally, with robbery, aggravated assault and rape considered together. Women who resisted with a gun were 2.5 times more likely to escape without injury than those who did not resist and 4 times more likely to escape uninjured than those who resisted with any means other than a gun. Similarly, their property losses in a robbery were reduced more than six-fold and almost three-fold, respectively, compared to the other categories of resistance strategy.
Fourth, we have two studies in the last 20 years that directly address the outcomes of women who resist attempted rape with a weapon. (Lizotte, Journal of Quantitative Criminology, 1986; Kleck, Social Problems, 1990.) The former concludes,"Further, women who resist rape with a gun or knife dramatically decrease their probability of completion." (Lizotte did not analyze victim injuries apart from the rape itself.) The latter concludes that "resistance with a gun or knife is the most effective form of resistance for preventing completion of a rape"; this is accomplished "without creating any significant additional risk of other injury."
The best conclusion from available scientific data, then, is when avoidance of rape has failed and one must choose between being raped and resisting, a woman's best option is to resist with a gun in her hands.
********************
So, again a woman's best chance for stopping the rape and ultimately surviving the situation is to use a gun.....
***********************
As I have proven to you many times most rapes aren't even defendable with a gun. Stop spreading your lies.
Fuck you asswipe.....for rapes that are by strangers as well as aquaintances, a gun is still the best method of stopping them, followed distantly by a knife....I would recommend training in the Filipino martial arts to learn how to use a knife...as well as a gun.
Researchers point out that while rapes did drop the following year (there were three less rapes in 1967 than in 1966) by 1969 the rates had gone back up. Also the number of rapes that were looked at in the 1960s study was only 14, a very small number for any type of statistical significance to be drawn from.And an actual real world example of how women learning to own and carry guns lowered the rape rate.....
http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Firearms/Data/Crime/Florida/Gun Ownership Stops Rape/
http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Firearms/Data/Crime/Florida/Gun Ownership Stops Rape/
In Orlando, Florida, in 1966 a series of brutal rapes swept the
community. Citizens reacted to the tripling in the rate of rape
over the previous year by buying handguns for self-defense; 200-300
firearms were being purchased each week from dealers, and an unknown
number more from private parties.
The newspaper there, the _Orlando
Sentinel Star_, had an anti-gun editorial stance and tried to pressure
the local police chief and city government to stop the flow of arms.
When that tactic failed, the paper decided that in the interest of
public safety, they would sponsor a gun-training seminar in conjunction
with the local police. Plans were made for a one-day training course at
a local city park.
Plans were made for an expected 400-500 women. However,
more than 2500 women arrived, and brought with them every conceivable
kind of firearm. They had to park many blocks away, and the weapons
were carried in in purses, paper bags, boxes, briefcases, holsters,
and womens' hands. One police officer present said he'd never been so
scared in his life. [It must have been quite a sight!
Swamped, the organizers hastily dismissed the women with promises for
a more thorough course with scheduled appointments. The course offered
was for three classes/week, and within 6 months, the Orlando police had
trained more than 6000 women in basic pistol marksmanship and the law
of self-defense.
The results?
In 1966 there were 36 rapes in Orlando, triple the 1965 rate. In 1967,
there were 4.
Before the training, rape rates had been increasing in
Orlando as nationwide.
5 years after the training, rape was still
below pre-training levels in Orlando, but up 308% in the surrounding
areas, 96% for Florida overall, and 64% nationally.
Also in 1967, violent assault and burglary decreased by 25% in Orlando,
in addition to the rape reductions.
In 1967, NOT A SINGLE WOMAN HAD FIRED HER WEAPON in self-defense. In
1967, NOT A SINGLE WOMAN HAD TURNED HER GUN ON HER HUSBAND OR BOYFRIEND.
(No data are available for later years.)
The reason the program worked so spectacularly well is that it was
widely known that Orlando women had the means and training to defend
themselves from attackers. Rapists, being (somewhat) human, they are
learning engines; they took their business elsewhere--to the detriment
of the defenseless in those other locations.
Department of Justice victim studies show that overall, when rape is
attempted, the completion rate is 36%. But when a woman defends herself
with a gun, the completion rate drops to 3%.
And for 19.95 you can read Southwick's 2000 study on guns that talk about rape.....
Self-defense with guns: The consequences
This one gives the actual percentages of how rapes are stopped...guns come out on top...
http://medind.nic.in/jal/t07/i4/jalt07i4p99.pdf
And an actual real world example of how women learning to own and carry guns lowered the rape rate.....
http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Firearms/Data/Crime/Florida/Gun Ownership Stops Rape/
In Orlando, Florida, in 1966 a series of brutal rapes swept the
community. Citizens reacted to the tripling in the rate of rape
over the previous year by buying handguns for self-defense; 200-300
firearms were being purchased each week from dealers, and an unknown
number more from private parties.
The newspaper there, the _Orlando
Sentinel Star_, had an anti-gun editorial stance and tried to pressure
the local police chief and city government to stop the flow of arms.
When that tactic failed, the paper decided that in the interest of
public safety, they would sponsor a gun-training seminar in conjunction
with the local police. Plans were made for a one-day training course at
a local city park.
Plans were made for an expected 400-500 women. However,
more than 2500 women arrived, and brought with them every conceivable
kind of firearm. They had to park many blocks away, and the weapons
were carried in in purses, paper bags, boxes, briefcases, holsters,
and womens' hands. One police officer present said he'd never been so
scared in his life. [It must have been quite a sight!
Swamped, the organizers hastily dismissed the women with promises for
a more thorough course with scheduled appointments. The course offered
was for three classes/week, and within 6 months, the Orlando police had
trained more than 6000 women in basic pistol marksmanship and the law
of self-defense.
The results?
In 1966 there were 36 rapes in Orlando, triple the 1965 rate. In 1967,
there were 4.
Before the training, rape rates had been increasing in
Orlando as nationwide.
5 years after the training, rape was still
below pre-training levels in Orlando, but up 308% in the surrounding
areas, 96% for Florida overall, and 64% nationally.
Also in 1967, violent assault and burglary decreased by 25% in Orlando,
in addition to the rape reductions.
In 1967, NOT A SINGLE WOMAN HAD FIRED HER WEAPON in self-defense. In
1967, NOT A SINGLE WOMAN HAD TURNED HER GUN ON HER HUSBAND OR BOYFRIEND.
(No data are available for later years.)
The reason the program worked so spectacularly well is that it was
widely known that Orlando women had the means and training to defend
themselves from attackers. Rapists, being (somewhat) human, they are
learning engines; they took their business elsewhere--to the detriment
of the defenseless in those other locations.
Department of Justice victim studies show that overall, when rape is
attempted, the completion rate is 36%. But when a woman defends herself
with a gun, the completion rate drops to 3%.
And for 19.95 you can read Southwick's 2000 study on guns that talk about rape.....
Self-defense with guns: The consequences
This one gives the actual percentages of how rapes are stopped...guns come out on top...
http://medind.nic.in/jal/t07/i4/jalt07i4p99.pdf
That claim is ridiculous.
Orlando Rape Statistics 1966 | The Sandy Hook Project
