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Leftists will never forgive Pinochet for saving Chile.
Is that what Pinochet was doing?
Saving Chile from communism?
So who is going to save us from Comrade Sanders?
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Saving Chile from communism?
Yes.
Bullshit
Augusto Pinochet and the Conservative Threat to America
by Jacob G. Hornberger January 12, 2005
While some people might believe that those on the Left wing of the political spectrum pose the bigger threat to the freedom and well-being of the American people, nothing could be further from the truth. Today, the much bigger threat (Readhere and here) comes instead from the Right wing or conservative side of the political spectrum, for it is the conservatives who are either indifferent to — or squarely in favor of — military rule, torture, and suspension of habeas corpus and civil liberties for suspected terrorists. And those things constitute a much more ominous threat to our freedom and well-being than anything leftists endorse. (Of course, in fairness to the truth, there are leftists who endorse violations of civil liberties — or simply look the other way — when such violations are committed by leftist officials, two notable examples being Janet Reno and Fidel Castro.)
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Leftists will never forgive Pinochet for saving Chile.
Were it not for General Augusto Pinochet, then Chile would have become Cuba II ie. a Communist crapheap with a failed society and a failed economy.
The Economist and the Dictator
Just what is the connection between Milton Friedman and Augusto Pinochet?
The recently deceased Chilean autocrat Augusto Pinochet is responsible for banning political opposition,“disappearing” political enemies (and blowing some of them up in Washington, D.C.), ordering many thousands of deaths, and turning football stadiums into grim multi-purpose detention centers in which political prisoners were tortured and killed.
“The Chilean junta’s economic policy is based on the ideas of Milton Friedman…and his Chicago School…if the pure Chicago economic theory can be carried out in Chile only at the price of repression, should its authors feel some responsibility?”
I hope Anthony Lewis didn't hurt himself while twisting into that pretzel.
Fucking douche.
Life under Pinochet: “They were taking turns to electrocute us one after the other”
Colonia
The movie , based upon a true story ,
Set in 1973, a young couple become entangled in a Chilean military coup at a time when there is much protest on the streets against General Augusto Pinochet. When Daniel is abducted by Pinochet's secret police DINA, Lena tries to find and save her husband.[4] She tracks him to a sealed-off village called "Colonia Dignidad", which presents itself as a charitable mission run by a lay preacher, Paul Schäfer, but is in fact a place from which no one has ever escaped. Lena decides to join the cult to attempt to rescue her husband.[4]
Augusto Pinochet and the Conservative Threat to America
by Jacob G. Hornberger January 12, 2005
While some people might believe that those on the Left wing of the political spectrum pose the bigger threat to the freedom and well-being of the American people, nothing could be further from the truth. Today, the much bigger threat (Readhere and here) comes instead from the Right wing or conservative side of the political spectrum, for it is the conservatives who are either indifferent to — or squarely in favor of — military rule, torture, and suspension of habeas corpus and civil liberties for suspected terrorists. And those things constitute a much more ominous threat to our freedom and well-being than anything leftists endorse. (Of course, in fairness to the truth, there are leftists who endorse violations of civil liberties — or simply look the other way — when such violations are committed by leftist officials, two notable examples being Janet Reno and Fidel Castro.)
Yeah, and the proof of that is how Chile devolved into a totalitarian hell hole . . . . . . . er, no, that's not it. Chile is the wealthiest country in Latin American with a thriving democracy.
It really is sad how low left wingers have to reach to paint capitalism as a threat to freedom and democracy. On the other hand, the farthest we have to look to find examples of socialism devolving into totalitarian dictatorship is 90 miles south of Florida.
Colonia
The movie , based upon a true story ,
Set in 1973, a young couple become entangled in a Chilean military coup at a time when there is much protest on the streets against General Augusto Pinochet. When Daniel is abducted by Pinochet's secret police DINA, Lena tries to find and save her husband.[4] She tracks him to a sealed-off village called "Colonia Dignidad", which presents itself as a charitable mission run by a lay preacher, Paul Schäfer, but is in fact a place from which no one has ever escaped. Lena decides to join the cult to attempt to rescue her husband.[4]
Augusto Pinochet and the Conservative Threat to America
by Jacob G. Hornberger January 12, 2005
While some people might believe that those on the Left wing of the political spectrum pose the bigger threat to the freedom and well-being of the American people, nothing could be further from the truth. Today, the much bigger threat (Readhere and here) comes instead from the Right wing or conservative side of the political spectrum, for it is the conservatives who are either indifferent to — or squarely in favor of — military rule, torture, and suspension of habeas corpus and civil liberties for suspected terrorists. And those things constitute a much more ominous threat to our freedom and well-being than anything leftists endorse. (Of course, in fairness to the truth, there are leftists who endorse violations of civil liberties — or simply look the other way — when such violations are committed by leftist officials, two notable examples being Janet Reno and Fidel Castro.)
Yeah, and the proof of that is how Chile devolved into a totalitarian hell hole . . . . . . . er, no, that's not it. Chile is the wealthiest country in Latin American with a thriving democracy.
It really is sad how low left wingers have to reach to paint capitalism as a threat to freedom and democracy. On the other hand, the farthest we have to look to find examples of socialism devolving into totalitarian dictatorship is 90 miles south of Florida.
Chile was NEVER Capitalist.
When the government is involved you have fascism, corporatism, mercantilism, take your pick they all mean the same thing.
And when the government executes, disappears and tortures its citizens as shown in the movie "Colonia" then Capitalism is definitely not involved.
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Colonia
The movie , based upon a true story ,
Set in 1973, a young couple become entangled in a Chilean military coup at a time when there is much protest on the streets against General Augusto Pinochet. When Daniel is abducted by Pinochet's secret police DINA, Lena tries to find and save her husband.[4] She tracks him to a sealed-off village called "Colonia Dignidad", which presents itself as a charitable mission run by a lay preacher, Paul Schäfer, but is in fact a place from which no one has ever escaped. Lena decides to join the cult to attempt to rescue her husband.[4]
Augusto Pinochet and the Conservative Threat to America
by Jacob G. Hornberger January 12, 2005
While some people might believe that those on the Left wing of the political spectrum pose the bigger threat to the freedom and well-being of the American people, nothing could be further from the truth. Today, the much bigger threat (Readhere and here) comes instead from the Right wing or conservative side of the political spectrum, for it is the conservatives who are either indifferent to — or squarely in favor of — military rule, torture, and suspension of habeas corpus and civil liberties for suspected terrorists. And those things constitute a much more ominous threat to our freedom and well-being than anything leftists endorse. (Of course, in fairness to the truth, there are leftists who endorse violations of civil liberties — or simply look the other way — when such violations are committed by leftist officials, two notable examples being Janet Reno and Fidel Castro.)
Yeah, and the proof of that is how Chile devolved into a totalitarian hell hole . . . . . . . er, no, that's not it. Chile is the wealthiest country in Latin American with a thriving democracy.
It really is sad how low left wingers have to reach to paint capitalism as a threat to freedom and democracy. On the other hand, the farthest we have to look to find examples of socialism devolving into totalitarian dictatorship is 90 miles south of Florida.
Chile was NEVER Capitalist.
When the government is involved you have fascism, corporatism, mercantilism, take your pick they all mean the same thing.
And when the government executes, disappears and tortures its citizens as shown in the movie "Colonia" then Capitalism is definitely not involved.
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It was far more capitalist than it was before Allende ascended to the throne and invited the Cubans to run the country. The people executed were communists working to overthrow the government. That's what happens in civil wars: people get killed. Only communists think it's a crime against humanity to kill the people fighting making war on the people.
Wingnuts are true champions of democratic values except when they aren't.
So the Us backed a coup to keep the Communists from getting another foothold in the Americas during the Cold war. Realpolitik is a bitch sometimes. At least we didn't simply invade nations that wanted change like the Soviets did.
Colonia
The movie , based upon a true story ,
Set in 1973, a young couple become entangled in a Chilean military coup at a time when there is much protest on the streets against General Augusto Pinochet. When Daniel is abducted by Pinochet's secret police DINA, Lena tries to find and save her husband.[4] She tracks him to a sealed-off village called "Colonia Dignidad", which presents itself as a charitable mission run by a lay preacher, Paul Schäfer, but is in fact a place from which no one has ever escaped. Lena decides to join the cult to attempt to rescue her husband.[4]
Augusto Pinochet and the Conservative Threat to America
by Jacob G. Hornberger January 12, 2005
While some people might believe that those on the Left wing of the political spectrum pose the bigger threat to the freedom and well-being of the American people, nothing could be further from the truth. Today, the much bigger threat (Readhere and here) comes instead from the Right wing or conservative side of the political spectrum, for it is the conservatives who are either indifferent to — or squarely in favor of — military rule, torture, and suspension of habeas corpus and civil liberties for suspected terrorists. And those things constitute a much more ominous threat to our freedom and well-being than anything leftists endorse. (Of course, in fairness to the truth, there are leftists who endorse violations of civil liberties — or simply look the other way — when such violations are committed by leftist officials, two notable examples being Janet Reno and Fidel Castro.)
Yeah, and the proof of that is how Chile devolved into a totalitarian hell hole . . . . . . . er, no, that's not it. Chile is the wealthiest country in Latin American with a thriving democracy.
It really is sad how low left wingers have to reach to paint capitalism as a threat to freedom and democracy. On the other hand, the farthest we have to look to find examples of socialism devolving into totalitarian dictatorship is 90 miles south of Florida.
Chile was NEVER Capitalist.
When the government is involved you have fascism, corporatism, mercantilism, take your pick they all mean the same thing.
And when the government executes, disappears and tortures its citizens as shown in the movie "Colonia" then Capitalism is definitely not involved.
.
It was far more capitalist than it was before Allende ascended to the throne and invited the Cubans to run the country. The people executed were communists working to overthrow the government. That's what happens in civil wars: people get killed. Only communists think it's a crime against humanity to kill the people fighting making war on the people.
Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Consider Chile. The Chilean people elect a communist, Salvador Allende, in a democratic election at the height of the Cold War. U.S. officials say that this cannot stand. So, President Nixon orders the CIA to foment a massive economic crisis within the country, much like the economic crisis leading up to the military coup in Egypt. “Make the economy scream” are Nixon’s exact words. The CIA faithfully obeys his orders notwithstanding the fact that the Constitution does not authorize any such action. The Chilean military, with the support of the U.S. national-security state, ousts Allende in a coup and imposes brutal military rule under Army General Augusto Pinochet.
Pinochet’s military-intelligence goons immediately went about arresting Allende’s supporters and suspected communists, jailed them, tortured and raped them, and executed them. To this day, supporters of the coup say that all this was justified to save the country from the mistake that the Chilean electorate had made in electing Allende president."
Wingnuts are true champions of democratic values except when they aren't.
Both sides of the political coin are that way. Both the Soviets and Americans were more concerned with the Cold War than worrying about what the locals might want. It's just how being a Superpower goes.
Wingnuts are true champions of democratic values except when they aren't.
Both sides of the political coin are that way. Both the Soviets and Americans were more concerned with the Cold War than worrying about what the locals might want. It's just how being a Superpower goes.
Odd first off that you think both sides of the political coin are the US and the Soviets.
That being said, you won't find too many liberals applauding our relationship with Pinochet. But on this thread the guy is a fucking right wing superstar.
Wingnuts are true champions of democratic values except when they aren't.
Both sides of the political coin are that way. Both the Soviets and Americans were more concerned with the Cold War than worrying about what the locals might want. It's just how being a Superpower goes.
Odd first off that you think both sides of the political coin are the US and the Soviets.
That being said, you won't find too many liberals applauding our relationship with Pinochet. But on this thread the guy is a fucking right wing superstar.
It was a lesser of two evils. Pincohet vs. Allende. Batista vs. Castro.
Both sides excuse show trials, mass executions and disappearing people so long as their guys win. Liberals think it's fine that Che killed political enemies, Conservatives think it's fine that Pinochet did the same.
It's sad that everyone seems to have a "ends fit the means" attitude so long as their ideology is on top.
Colonia
The movie , based upon a true story ,
Set in 1973, a young couple become entangled in a Chilean military coup at a time when there is much protest on the streets against General Augusto Pinochet. When Daniel is abducted by Pinochet's secret police DINA, Lena tries to find and save her husband.[4] She tracks him to a sealed-off village called "Colonia Dignidad", which presents itself as a charitable mission run by a lay preacher, Paul Schäfer, but is in fact a place from which no one has ever escaped. Lena decides to join the cult to attempt to rescue her husband.[4]
Augusto Pinochet and the Conservative Threat to America
by Jacob G. Hornberger January 12, 2005
While some people might believe that those on the Left wing of the political spectrum pose the bigger threat to the freedom and well-being of the American people, nothing could be further from the truth. Today, the much bigger threat (Readhere and here) comes instead from the Right wing or conservative side of the political spectrum, for it is the conservatives who are either indifferent to — or squarely in favor of — military rule, torture, and suspension of habeas corpus and civil liberties for suspected terrorists. And those things constitute a much more ominous threat to our freedom and well-being than anything leftists endorse. (Of course, in fairness to the truth, there are leftists who endorse violations of civil liberties — or simply look the other way — when such violations are committed by leftist officials, two notable examples being Janet Reno and Fidel Castro.)
Yeah, and the proof of that is how Chile devolved into a totalitarian hell hole . . . . . . . er, no, that's not it. Chile is the wealthiest country in Latin American with a thriving democracy.
It really is sad how low left wingers have to reach to paint capitalism as a threat to freedom and democracy. On the other hand, the farthest we have to look to find examples of socialism devolving into totalitarian dictatorship is 90 miles south of Florida.
Chile was NEVER Capitalist.
When the government is involved you have fascism, corporatism, mercantilism, take your pick they all mean the same thing.
And when the government executes, disappears and tortures its citizens as shown in the movie "Colonia" then Capitalism is definitely not involved.
.
It was far more capitalist than it was before Allende ascended to the throne and invited the Cubans to run the country. The people executed were communists working to overthrow the government. That's what happens in civil wars: people get killed. Only communists think it's a crime against humanity to kill the people fighting making war on the people.
Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
"
Consider Chile. The Chilean people elect a communist, Salvador Allende, in a democratic election at the height of the Cold War. U.S. officials say that this cannot stand. So, President Nixon orders the CIA to foment a massive economic crisis within the country, much like the economic crisis leading up to the military coup in Egypt. “Make the economy scream” are Nixon’s exact words. The CIA faithfully obeys his orders notwithstanding the fact that the Constitution does not authorize any such action. The Chilean military, with the support of the U.S. national-security state, ousts Allende in a coup and imposes brutal military rule under Army General Augusto Pinochet.
Pinochet’s military-intelligence goons immediately went about arresting Allende’s supporters and suspected communists, jailed them, tortured and raped them, and executed them. To this day, supporters of the coup say that all this was justified to save the country from the mistake that the Chilean electorate had made in electing Allende president."
Colonia
The movie , based upon a true story ,
Set in 1973, a young couple become entangled in a Chilean military coup at a time when there is much protest on the streets against General Augusto Pinochet. When Daniel is abducted by Pinochet's secret police DINA, Lena tries to find and save her husband.[4] She tracks him to a sealed-off village called "Colonia Dignidad", which presents itself as a charitable mission run by a lay preacher, Paul Schäfer, but is in fact a place from which no one has ever escaped. Lena decides to join the cult to attempt to rescue her husband.[4]
Augusto Pinochet and the Conservative Threat to America
by Jacob G. Hornberger January 12, 2005
While some people might believe that those on the Left wing of the political spectrum pose the bigger threat to the freedom and well-being of the American people, nothing could be further from the truth. Today, the much bigger threat (Readhere and here) comes instead from the Right wing or conservative side of the political spectrum, for it is the conservatives who are either indifferent to — or squarely in favor of — military rule, torture, and suspension of habeas corpus and civil liberties for suspected terrorists. And those things constitute a much more ominous threat to our freedom and well-being than anything leftists endorse. (Of course, in fairness to the truth, there are leftists who endorse violations of civil liberties — or simply look the other way — when such violations are committed by leftist officials, two notable examples being Janet Reno and Fidel Castro.)
Yeah, and the proof of that is how Chile devolved into a totalitarian hell hole . . . . . . . er, no, that's not it. Chile is the wealthiest country in Latin American with a thriving democracy.
It really is sad how low left wingers have to reach to paint capitalism as a threat to freedom and democracy. On the other hand, the farthest we have to look to find examples of socialism devolving into totalitarian dictatorship is 90 miles south of Florida.
Chile was NEVER Capitalist.
When the government is involved you have fascism, corporatism, mercantilism, take your pick they all mean the same thing.
And when the government executes, disappears and tortures its citizens as shown in the movie "Colonia" then Capitalism is definitely not involved.
.
It was far more capitalist than it was before Allende ascended to the throne and invited the Cubans to run the country. The people executed were communists working to overthrow the government. That's what happens in civil wars: people get killed. Only communists think it's a crime against humanity to kill the people fighting making war on the people.
A relentless war was waged against Pinochet and the Chilean people during the years, 1973-1990. Bill Jasper points out that in 1984 alone, there were 735 terrorist bombings with responsibility clamed by the Manuel Rodriguez Patriotic Front (MRPF) the Communist cadre supported by Cuba, Nicaragua, Libya, East Germany, and the Soviet Union. On Sept. 7, 1986, Pinochet and his 10-year-old grandson narrowly escaped an ambush by Communists armed with automatic rifles, rocket launchers, bazookas, and grenades. Many terrorists and their supporters were killed in this war of attrition both by Pinochet’s forces and by civilians seeking vengeance and. given the situation, many of their bodies went unidentified. Jasper states that “we have seen no evidence to sustain the charges that Pinochet ordered, knew of, or approved of, any plan for the use of murder or torture against his political opponents”.
