Myths and facts about Jerusalem and Temple Mount

[Roudy]

you are a highly insecure person that has been caught lying a few times

Um....it was FIVE times on this thread alone that you were caught lying, if memory serves.

You seem to be suffering from Ass-bergers Syndrome.

Te fact that you keep repeating your bullshit doesn't really add up to a hill of beans. You were't able to establish Jack shit other than other posters called you on your lies. So which is it, were Arabs in Palestine during the Stone Age, Bronze Age, or Ice Age?

And how are things at StormFront these days? Made any new Nazi friends? I can understand why you come to this board, we have a few of them here as well, as in the ones that were defending you.. You see, shit always gets attracted to other shit.

 

[Hossfly]

you are a highly insecure person that has been caught lying a few times

Um....it was FIVE times on this thread alone that you were caught lying, if memory serves.

You seem to be suffering from Ass-bergers Syndrome.

That would be a catsasstrophe!

 

[Roudy]

Saigon , I appreciate that you respond to my posts with respect, but you appear to be in some sort of denial. You are trying to portray the Palestinians as some peaceful people, but I fail to see what they have offered for peace

Toast, trust me, this guy is scum, he tries to disarm people with his I've been to x y and z. He does it not only on this board but other boards too.

Bottom line is he's an ignorant Pali terrorist ass licker who's always coming to the defense of Islamists and justifying Palestinian terrorism. And, he's a confessed StormFront regular. Not to mention he's a whiner extraordinaire and highly insecure about his shortcomings, that has a hissy fit every time he's exposed.

 

[theliq]

Saigon , I appreciate that you respond to my posts with respect, but you appear to be in some sort of denial. You are trying to portray the Palestinians as some peaceful people, but I fail to see what they have offered for peace

Toast, trust me, this guy is scum, he tries to disarm people with his I've been to x y and z. He does it not only on this board but other boards too.

Bottom line is he's an ignorant Pali terrorist ass licker who's always coming to the defense of Islamists and justifying Palestinian terrorism. And, he's a confessed StormFront regular. Not to mention he's a whiner extraordinaire and highly insecure about his shortcomings, that has a hissy fit every time he's exposed.

The Truth About Palestine.(About Time,Zionism and the Lies)

The following is an overview of the partition of Palestine in 1947.This resulted in the creation of Israel and the dispossession of the Palestinian people.

PARTITION Resolution 181:The Partition of Palestine 29th November 1947

On the 23rd of September 1947,the General Assembly assigned the question of partitioning of Palestine to its Ad Hoc Committee.Another sub committee was to study the proposal of establishing a unitary State in Palestine in which the Democratic Constitution would guarantee the human rights and fundamental freedom of all its citizens without distinction as to race,language or religion.The two reports were submitted and after prolonged discussions,there was great pressure from the United States and the Soviet Delegation to adopt the Resolution to Partition Palestine.

It was on 25th of November 1947 that the world became acquainted for the first time with the final draft of the partition resolution:Resolution 181.The General Assembly REFUSED a resolution to submit the Palestine question to the Internation Court of Justice to determine whether the UN had any jurisdiction to recommend the partition of Palestine or any other country.

For a draft resolution to become an official one, UN procedures required a two thirds majority of its Ad-Hoc committee.As two votes were lacking for such a majority,the draft was handed to the General Assembly.Both Zionist and Arab delegations were now in a race against time. Other delegates who had originally favoured partition proposals,started to waver but were pressured and guided by the White House and the US Secretary of State to ensure that a favourable outcome was secured(for the Zionists and Jewish Lobby.....Whats changed in the last 60 odd years up to today,NOTHING except American tax payers are paying for the trillions paid to Israel) Sorry to digress.

Concerted and remarkable lobbying/bribing by the Zionist lobby and their lackies the Americans ensured that at the last moment, that those 8 wavering and doubtful votes were swung into the partition lobby. The strenght of the Jewish/Zionist lobby in Washington had been a revelation.2bcontinued

 

[Saigon]

Bottom line is he's an ignorant Pali terrorist ass licker who's always coming to the defense of Islamists and justifying Palestinian terrorism. And, he's a confessed StormFront regular. Not to mention he's a whiner extraordinaire and highly insecure about his shortcomings, that has a hissy fit every time he's exposed.

You have to laugh, don't you?

One thing I've always said about you, Holston - you know when you are beaten!


btw. The forefathers of today's Palestinians were in Jerusalem in both the Stone Age and Bronze Age. I posted proof on this earlier.

 

[irosie91]

Bottom line is he's an ignorant Pali terrorist ass licker who's always coming to the defense of Islamists and justifying Palestinian terrorism. And, he's a confessed StormFront regular. Not to mention he's a whiner extraordinaire and highly insecure about his shortcomings, that has a hissy fit every time he's exposed.

You have to laugh, don't you?

One thing I've always said about you, Holston - you know when you are beaten!


btw. The forefathers of today's Palestinians were in Jerusalem in both the Stone Age and Bronze Age. I posted proof on this earlier.

you posted no "proof" of that idiotic statement ----nor does any exist.

Basic concepts in population genetics are not all the difficult----your
statement indicates that you are CLUELESS You COULD reasonably
assert "the probablity is high that there are people in the group called
palestinians who carry genetic material inherted from ancient people who
at one time sojouned in the land which is today Jerusalem----<< and that
is about it. Anything more is UTTERLY IDIOTIC

of course you should also be aware of the fact that you could JUST
as reasonably assert "the probablity is high that there are
people in the group called "palestinians" who carry genetic
material from greeks who invaded into the middle east "

in sum and substance------you have proven nothing and you
have made a silly and flamboyant assertion for which there
is no basis

 

[Saigon]

you posted no "proof" of that idiotic statement ----nor does any exist.

Of course it exists, Rosie!!

There must be 20 studies out there on this topic - here is one:

http://www.stml.net/text/Populations.pdf

 

[Saigon]

"Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people

Te fact that you keep repeating your bullshit doesn't really add up to a hill of beans. You were't able to establish Jack shit other than other posters called you on your lies. So which is it, were Arabs in Palestine during the Stone Age, Bronze Age, or Ice Age?

If you read the link in post #307, you will see that genetics link modern Palestinians with the people who lived in Jerusalem during both the Stone and Bronze Ages, exactly as I explained earlier.

 

[Roudy]

Bottom line is he's an ignorant Pali terrorist ass licker who's always coming to the defense of Islamists and justifying Palestinian terrorism. And, he's a confessed StormFront regular. Not to mention he's a whiner extraordinaire and highly insecure about his shortcomings, that has a hissy fit every time he's exposed.

You have to laugh, don't you?

One thing I've always said about you, Holston - you know when you are beaten!


btw. The forefathers of today's Palestinians were in Jerusalem in both the Stone Age and Bronze Age. I posted proof on this earlier.

Saigoooon unleashes:

btw. The forefathers of today's Palestinians were in Jerusalem in both the Stone Age and Bronze Age. I posted proof on this earlier.

Beahabahahahahahahahaha! Aren't the shameless Pali terrorist loving liars the ones that are always accusing others of lying?! First he says Stones, then few posts later he backtracks and lies saying he meant Brinze Ages....and now he's back to the Stone Ages!

Hey why it the Ice Ages, or perhaps...when the dinasours roamed?! If you're gonna lie, go big, man! Ah never mind I didn't need to tell you that!

 

[Saigon]

Roudy -

By all means address the material posted.

 

[Roudy]

"Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people

Te fact that you keep repeating your bullshit doesn't really add up to a hill of beans. You were't able to establish Jack shit other than other posters called you on your lies. So which is it, were Arabs in Palestine during the Stone Age, Bronze Age, or Ice Age?

If you read the link in post #307, you will see that genetics link modern Palestinians with the people who lived in Jerusalem during both the Stone and Bronze Ages, exactly as I explained earlier.

...and I can show you from the same Wikipedia a Cohen gene that is exclusive to Jews which does not exist in Arabs, and ties all the Jews to Aaron, and the very same Jews that lived in Israel 3000 years ago. CHECK MATE. When showing genealogical research what's important is what genes are exclusive to certain groups, NOT what is common. For example, Jews and Japanese of all people have some common genes.

And, If you read from your own link the Palestinians didn't even know what the fuck they are themselves.

The historical record continued to reveal an interplay between "Arab" and "Palestinian" identities and nationalism. The idea of a unique Palestinian state separated out from its Arab neighbors was at first rejected by Palestinian representatives. The First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations (in Jerusalem, February 1919), which met for the purpose of selecting a Palestinian Arab representative for the Paris Peace Conference, adopted the following resolution: "We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds."[60]

 

[Saigon]

Roudy -

Please try and stay on topic.

The issue here is genetic history - which you claimed to be interested in. You have asked for this material to be posted a half dozen times - and now apparently refuse to look at it.

Here it is again for you to ignore:

http://www.stml.net/text/Populations.pdf

The 1919 Paris Peace Process and statements made at it are not disputed by anyone.

 

[Roudy]

The material you posted is CRAP:

The Cohanim - DNA Connection
The fascinating story of how DNA studies confirm an ancient biblical tradition.

In the first study, as reported in the prestigious British science journal, Nature (January 2, 1997), 188 Jewish males were asked to contribute some cheek cells from which their DNA was extracted for study. Participants from Israel, England and North America were asked to identify whether they were a Cohen, Levi or Israelite, and to identify their family background.
The results of the analysis of the Y chromosome markers of the Cohanim and non-Cohanim were indeed significant. A particular marker, (YAP-) was detected in 98.5 percent of the Cohanim, and in a significantly lower percentage of non-Cohanim.

In a second study, Dr. Skorecki and associates gathered more DNA samples and expanded their selection of Y chromosome markers. Solidifying their hypothesis of the Cohens' common ancestor, they found that a particular array of six chromosomal markers was found in 97 of the 106 Cohens tested. This collection of markers has come to be known as the Cohen Modal Hapoltype (CMH) -- the standard genetic signature of the Jewish priestly family. The chances of these findings happening at random is greater than one in 10,000.
The finding of a common set of genetic markers in both Ashkenazi and Sephardi Cohanim worldwide clearly indicates an origin pre-dating the separate development of the two communities around 1000 CE. Date calculation based on the variation of the mutations among Cohanim today yields a time frame of 106 generations from the ancestral founder of the line, some 3,300 years -- the approximate time of the Exodus from Egypt, the lifetime of Aaron HaCohen.

 

[Roudy]

Roudy -

Please try and stay on topic.

The issue here is genetic history - which you claimed to be interested in. You have asked for this material to be posted a half dozen times - and now apparently refuse to look at it.

Here it is again for you to ignore:

http://www.stml.net/text/Populations.pdf

The 1919 Paris Peace Process and statements made at it are not disputed by anyone.

Still don't see any reference to Arabs in the Stone Age or Bronze Age being Palestinians. Lame effort. I give you an F across the board. You are a horrible liar and bad poker player who doesn't know when to fold. LOL


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Age

The Stone Age is a broad prehistoric period during which stone was widely used to make implements with a sharp edge, a point, or a percussion surface. The period lasted roughly 3.4 million years, and ended between 4500 BC and 2000 BC with the advent of metalworking.[1] Stone Age artifacts include tools used by humans and by their predecessor species in the genus Homo, as well as the earlier partly contemporaneous genera Australopithecus and Paranthropus. Bone tools were used during this period as well, but are more rarely preserved in the archaeological record. The Stone Age is further subdivided by the types of stone tools in use.

 

[Saigon]

Roudy -

Actually, there are another half dozen or so studies which produce quite similar results. I am happy to post those as well if anyone is interested in seeing them.

They all establish that the modern Palestinian people can trace their history in the area back to the Stone Ages, as I suggested earlier.

Here's an interesting graphic from another study.

 

[Saigon]

Still don't see any reference to Arabs in the Stone Age or Bronze Age being Palestinians. L

Then try reading the material posted.

 

[Roudy]

Bottom line is he's an ignorant Pali terrorist ass licker who's always coming to the defense of Islamists and justifying Palestinian terrorism. And, he's a confessed StormFront regular. Not to mention he's a whiner extraordinaire and highly insecure about his shortcomings, that has a hissy fit every time he's exposed.

You have to laugh, don't you?

One thing I've always said about you, Holston - you know when you are beaten!


btw. The forefathers of today's Palestinians were in Jerusalem in both the Stone Age and Bronze Age. I posted proof on this earlier.

you posted no "proof" of that idiotic statement ----nor does any exist.

Basic concepts in population genetics are not all the difficult----your
statement indicates that you are CLUELESS You COULD reasonably
assert "the probablity is high that there are people in the group called
palestinians who carry genetic material inherted from ancient people who
at one time sojouned in the land which is today Jerusalem----<< and that
is about it. Anything more is UTTERLY IDIOTIC

of course you should also be aware of the fact that you could JUST
as reasonably assert "the probablity is high that there are
people in the group called "palestinians" who carry genetic
material from greeks who invaded into the middle east "

in sum and substance------you have proven nothing and you
have made a silly and flamboyant assertion for which there
is no basis

In conclusion he put his foot in his mouth while messing with the wrong people, and now he's grasping at straws. I really feel sorry for him. In essence, he's his own worst enemy! Ha ha ha!

 

[Roudy]

Roudy -

Actually, there are another half dozen or so studies which produce quite similar results. I am happy to post those as well if anyone is interested in seeing them.

They all establish that the modern Palestinian people can trace their history in the area back to the Stone Ages, as I suggested earlier.

Here's an interesting graphic from another study.

Stone ages lasted for millions of years you fucking dipshit. Try again. Did you see how the same Egyptians you related to Arabs in the Bronze Age, are actually NORTH AFRICANS as I taught you graciously, and are OUT of the circle? OOOPS!

Dude you are too easy, I'd like to debate with someone who has an IQ a little more than the 70 you display.

 

[Roudy]

Roudy -

Please try and stay on topic.

The issue here is genetic history - which you claimed to be interested in. You have asked for this material to be posted a half dozen times - and now apparently refuse to look at it.

Here it is again for you to ignore:

http://www.stml.net/text/Populations.pdf

The 1919 Paris Peace Process and statements made at it are not disputed by anyone.

Your link is useless and doesn't prove Jackshit. Basically everybody is related to everybody.....WELL DUH! I coulda told you dat!

" Jews, Cretans, Egyptians, Iranians, Turks and Armenians are probably the closest relatives to Palestinians."

Ha ha ha. Utterly meaningless drivel.

 

[Saigon]

Roudy -

I am always happy to post material for people who are open-minded enough to look at it, literate enought to understand it, and honest enough to discuss it.

This is not you.