Nancy Pelosi: Revoke Flynn's Security Clearance

No, if you don't do anything wrong, there is nothing to lie about. Why is this such a hard thing to understand?
. You never lied under pressure to help instead of hurt your personal family, country, countrymen, brothers and sisters etc. ???? Tell the truth now... Ever heard of a thing called coerced confessions that sent an innocent person to jail, only to find out years later that an innocent man had been locked up for crimes he didnot commit ?? Happens all the time. Not long ago a prosecutor was hammered for setting a man up, where as the man spent years locked up because of the actions of the prosecutor who was corrupt. You people making Flynn think that he was wrong is no different than getting someone to lie for fear of your accusations against him.

HE'S a fucking high ranking member of the government... and his actions have to do with national security, your comparison doesn't hold a drop of water.

Well President Bill Clinton lied under oath.
Bill Clinton could do no wrong in the leftist mind.

If the crowd now that are the frothing at the mouth Leftists, the Cuckservatives and the Propaganda MSM were around during The Cuban Missile Crisis they would have been DEMANDING that JFK nuke the Soviet Union, if that crowd would have been around then because JFK didn't nuke the Soviet Union they would have DEMANDED he be Impeached as a Russian Agent for NOT nuking the Soviet Union.

Beagle these people are FUCKING INSANE and dangerous lunatics and the Trump Administration needs to take the gloves off and deal with all of them in one, swift swoop.

Several Senators, including two Republican Senators are dangerously close to Sedition as are quite a number of the MSM organisations, there are American Traitors in the midst, the Trump Administration needs to stamp out these snakes in one, swift swoop and make them a very public example of.


People aren't calling for nuking of the Soviet Union... I'm sorry in your country you might act like idiots in government and just throw black bags over people's heads that are political rivals, but in the U.S. we don't do that barbaric shit. That's why people want to come to the U.S. for a better life... and why so many people are trying to stop immigrants from flooding our country, because we are above acting like you are saying.
 
. Flynn did nothing wrong, but Obama accusing Russia of defeating Hillary in the election was wrong. Then using the power of his office to make it appear legitimate about what he was doing to punish Russia, could be an abuse of American power on the world stage.
Flynn lied to the Vice-President about talking to the Russians about sanctions. That was very wrong.
. You people on the left, and in the corrupt media had Flynn thinking that any word spoken about the Russians would be used as a gotcha moment, so he witheld information in order to try and cool the gotcha situation (a situation where nothing was done wrong or illegal), but he felt he had to lie in order to cool the leftist rehtoric for whom are constantly on a butt hurt witch hunt in all of this.
You are attributing a motive for lying to Flynn and you want it to look noble because it was to pacify the left but this is speculation. What is not speculation is that he lied and it was to the Vice President who then went on the networks to defend him. Regardless of the motive, not being able to trust the man with the truth is a no-no. He harmed Trump's team. He had to go.

You seem to be pretty loose with the truth.

What's your excuse.
Why be insulting?
Expecting someone who is in charge of security for the United States to tell the truth to the Vice President is not a big ask.

I don't trust Mike "Moral Orel" Pence anymore than Trump or Flynn.
 
No, with the way top Republicans in Congress dislike Russia, if it can be proven that Trump knew Flynn was making an agreement with Russia about the sanctions, then Trump is toast. Those transcripts of Flynn's phone calls could be as famous as the Watergate tapes.
. Flynn did nothing wrong, but Obama accusing Russia of defeating Hillary in the election was wrong. Then using the power of his office to make it appear legitimate about what he was doing to punish Russia, could be an abuse of American power on the world stage.
Flynn lied to the Vice-President about talking to the Russians about sanctions. That was very wrong.
. You people on the left, and in the corrupt media had Flynn thinking that any word spoken about the Russians would be used as a gotcha moment, so he witheld information in order to try and cool the gotcha situation (a situation where nothing was done wrong or illegal), but he felt he had to lie in order to cool the leftist rehtoric for whom are constantly on a butt hurt witch hunt in all of this.
You are attributing a motive for lying to Flynn and you want it to look noble because it was to pacify the left but this is speculation. What is not speculation is that he lied and it was to the Vice President who then went on the networks to defend him. Regardless of the motive, not being able to trust the man with the truth is a no-no. He harmed Trump's team. He had to go.
. How does one lie about something there was no need to lie about ? I know how ! It's because the left has infiltrated the circle with their tactics, and they have been successful at getting the administration thinking that if they are accused of something (even if there is nothing to it), then they have to go into defensive mode, and then they begin saying things that are not needed to be said. They need to stop letting the left get into their head, and stop letting them control the message. They are in control now, and the left needs to wait it's turn again.
Well, truth is not right or left, but it is all that matters.
Vincit omnia veritas.
 
He wasn't discussing official government business, Michael Flynn said that the new Administration would have a look at lifting the sanctions.

This does not violate a 1798/99 law that prohibits private citizens from talking to members of another Government, at the time Flynn made his comments he was in effect a private citizen.

Jimmy Carter spoke with North Korea in the 1990s, how was that any different than Michael Flynn having a phone conversation with the Russian Ambassador. If Michael Flynn violated The Logan Act, so did Jimmy Carter when he spoke with North Korea in the 1990s, because Carter wasn't officially sanctioned to speak with them.

This from the beginning how been a sordid witch hunt by the Sore Losers of the Left, the Cuckservatives who fought tooth and nail to stop Donald Trump being elected and the Propagandists of the MSM.

Not if Jimmy Carter was asked to do so by a government official as an diplomatic ambassador. Flynn did so in private, and then lied about it. If Flynn did nothing wrong, then why did he lie about it? Flynn was a private citizen, and if he told the Russians to stay cool and not retaliate for Obama's sanctions because when Trump got into office he would ease them, he was negotiating a deal on behave of the government when he was a private citizen... that is the Logan Act to a tee.

Jessie Jackson did it also in 1984, unauthorised communication with Cuba and Nicaragua.

The way many see this is that Flynn was attempting to prevent an escalation, as in smooth talking the Russian Ambassador to tell Moscow to not react to Obama putting yet more sanctions on Russia in his last weeks in office and also expelling the Russian diplomats.

Now also many people know that the frothing at the mouth Leftists, the Cuckservatives and the Propagandists in the MSM were collectively crossing their fingers that Moscow would retaliate and many people also know how disappointed they were when Moscow didn't retaliate.

All these psychopaths and maniacs have wanted WWIII for some time, they WANT full-on war with Russia, they have tried every way to get this in the past two years, now they want thew Trump Administration to start war with Russia, well they'll be disappointed again because Trump isn't going to start war with Russia.

There are bigger threats than Russia, like North Korea for example.

Jesse Jackson couldn't make deals. There was nothing he could promise. Do you not understand that? Do you not understand the difference between a Goodwill ambassador and making back-door deals?

Jesse Jackson in 1984, went unauthorised to Cuba and Nicaragua, he returned to America with several Cuban political prisoners seeking asylum in the United States ALL UNAUTHORISED, not what you term a Goodwill ambassador promising nothing....but unauthorised and making an unauthorised back-door deal with Cuba and returning to America with political prisoners, a violation of The Logan Act.

Lord have mercy on your poor little soul. You don't understand a fucking thing. Please read the Logan Act:

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.


Logan Act - Wikipedia

Now, what kind of dispute did those political prisoners have to do with a dispute or controversy?

There was no deal with Cuba. Cuba didn't ask for anything in return for the freed prisoners.


"Mr. Castro said he had released the prisoners ''as a result of Rev. Jackson's visit. I did it for him and for the people of the United States.''

Mr. Castro said he did not expect Mr. Reagan to make a similar posture gesture toward Cuba, saying ''we have not demanded anything in return at all.'' He added:

''I have no knowledge of what the Administration is thinking but we have not asked for anything.''"

JACKSON BACK IN U.S. FROM CUBA WITH PRISONERS SET FREE BY CASTRO

There was no deal made like the one Flynn made.
. OK, but this doesn't apply if the foriegn government or government official was accused of something it was not guilty of, and then that government has sanctions put on it by a part of this government that was not authorized by the Congress of the United States who would have had to review the case, and then vote as to whether those accusations or sanctions were legal or not. Flynn is no more guilty than Obama was for by passing the Congress, and sanctioning a foriegn country, and therefore authorizing an act of war against a foriegn country in which the sanctions do represent. Flynn if anything was trying to solve the problem Obama created with Russia.
 
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For those who may be confused about whether there are TRANSCRIPTS of Flynn's conversations with the Russian ambassador - THERE ARE. They are making the rounds in Congress. It's still unclear if or when they will be released to the public.
 
. Flynn did nothing wrong, but Obama accusing Russia of defeating Hillary in the election was wrong. Then using the power of his office to make it appear legitimate about what he was doing to punish Russia, could be an abuse of American power on the world stage.
Flynn lied to the Vice-President about talking to the Russians about sanctions. That was very wrong.
. You people on the left, and in the corrupt media had Flynn thinking that any word spoken about the Russians would be used as a gotcha moment, so he witheld information in order to try and cool the gotcha situation (a situation where nothing was done wrong or illegal), but he felt he had to lie in order to cool the leftist rehtoric for whom are constantly on a butt hurt witch hunt in all of this.
You are attributing a motive for lying to Flynn and you want it to look noble because it was to pacify the left but this is speculation. What is not speculation is that he lied and it was to the Vice President who then went on the networks to defend him. Regardless of the motive, not being able to trust the man with the truth is a no-no. He harmed Trump's team. He had to go.
. How does one lie about something there was no need to lie about ? I know how ! It's because the left has infiltrated the circle with their tactics, and they have been successful at getting the administration thinking that if they are accused of something (even if there is nothing to it), then they have to go into defensive mode, and then they begin saying things that are not needed to be said. They need to stop letting the left get into their head, and stop letting them control the message. They are in control now, and the left needs to wait it's turn again.
Well, truth is not right or left, but it is all that matters.
Vincit omnia veritas.
. Oh the dam truth matters now to you leftist eh ?? The left haven't a leg to stand on when it comes to the truth.
 
Not if Jimmy Carter was asked to do so by a government official as an diplomatic ambassador. Flynn did so in private, and then lied about it. If Flynn did nothing wrong, then why did he lie about it? Flynn was a private citizen, and if he told the Russians to stay cool and not retaliate for Obama's sanctions because when Trump got into office he would ease them, he was negotiating a deal on behave of the government when he was a private citizen... that is the Logan Act to a tee.

Jessie Jackson did it also in 1984, unauthorised communication with Cuba and Nicaragua.

The way many see this is that Flynn was attempting to prevent an escalation, as in smooth talking the Russian Ambassador to tell Moscow to not react to Obama putting yet more sanctions on Russia in his last weeks in office and also expelling the Russian diplomats.

Now also many people know that the frothing at the mouth Leftists, the Cuckservatives and the Propagandists in the MSM were collectively crossing their fingers that Moscow would retaliate and many people also know how disappointed they were when Moscow didn't retaliate.

All these psychopaths and maniacs have wanted WWIII for some time, they WANT full-on war with Russia, they have tried every way to get this in the past two years, now they want thew Trump Administration to start war with Russia, well they'll be disappointed again because Trump isn't going to start war with Russia.

There are bigger threats than Russia, like North Korea for example.

Jesse Jackson couldn't make deals. There was nothing he could promise. Do you not understand that? Do you not understand the difference between a Goodwill ambassador and making back-door deals?

Jesse Jackson in 1984, went unauthorised to Cuba and Nicaragua, he returned to America with several Cuban political prisoners seeking asylum in the United States ALL UNAUTHORISED, not what you term a Goodwill ambassador promising nothing....but unauthorised and making an unauthorised back-door deal with Cuba and returning to America with political prisoners, a violation of The Logan Act.

Lord have mercy on your poor little soul. You don't understand a fucking thing. Please read the Logan Act:

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.


Logan Act - Wikipedia

Now, what kind of dispute did those political prisoners have to do with a dispute or controversy?

There was no deal with Cuba. Cuba didn't ask for anything in return for the freed prisoners.


"Mr. Castro said he had released the prisoners ''as a result of Rev. Jackson's visit. I did it for him and for the people of the United States.''

Mr. Castro said he did not expect Mr. Reagan to make a similar posture gesture toward Cuba, saying ''we have not demanded anything in return at all.'' He added:

''I have no knowledge of what the Administration is thinking but we have not asked for anything.''"

JACKSON BACK IN U.S. FROM CUBA WITH PRISONERS SET FREE BY CASTRO

There was no deal made like the one Flynn made.
. OK, but this doesn't apply if the foriegn government or government official was accused of something it was not guilty of, and then that government has sanctions put on it by a part of this government that was not authorized by the Congress of the United States who would have had to review the case, and then vote as to whether those accusations or sanctions were legal or not. Flynn is no more guilty than Obama was for by passing the Congress for sanctioning a country, and therefore authorizing an act of war against a country in which the sanctions represent.
Oh come now; giving a bunch of Russian spies the boot is hardly an act of war.
 
For those who may be confused about whether there are TRANSCRIPTS of Flynn's conversations with the Russian ambassador - THERE ARE.
. Bring them out then .... We want to see them, and we want to interpret them, and we want to decide for ourselves about them.
 
Jessie Jackson did it also in 1984, unauthorised communication with Cuba and Nicaragua.

The way many see this is that Flynn was attempting to prevent an escalation, as in smooth talking the Russian Ambassador to tell Moscow to not react to Obama putting yet more sanctions on Russia in his last weeks in office and also expelling the Russian diplomats.

Now also many people know that the frothing at the mouth Leftists, the Cuckservatives and the Propagandists in the MSM were collectively crossing their fingers that Moscow would retaliate and many people also know how disappointed they were when Moscow didn't retaliate.

All these psychopaths and maniacs have wanted WWIII for some time, they WANT full-on war with Russia, they have tried every way to get this in the past two years, now they want thew Trump Administration to start war with Russia, well they'll be disappointed again because Trump isn't going to start war with Russia.

There are bigger threats than Russia, like North Korea for example.

Jesse Jackson couldn't make deals. There was nothing he could promise. Do you not understand that? Do you not understand the difference between a Goodwill ambassador and making back-door deals?

Jesse Jackson in 1984, went unauthorised to Cuba and Nicaragua, he returned to America with several Cuban political prisoners seeking asylum in the United States ALL UNAUTHORISED, not what you term a Goodwill ambassador promising nothing....but unauthorised and making an unauthorised back-door deal with Cuba and returning to America with political prisoners, a violation of The Logan Act.

Lord have mercy on your poor little soul. You don't understand a fucking thing. Please read the Logan Act:

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.


Logan Act - Wikipedia

Now, what kind of dispute did those political prisoners have to do with a dispute or controversy?

There was no deal with Cuba. Cuba didn't ask for anything in return for the freed prisoners.


"Mr. Castro said he had released the prisoners ''as a result of Rev. Jackson's visit. I did it for him and for the people of the United States.''

Mr. Castro said he did not expect Mr. Reagan to make a similar posture gesture toward Cuba, saying ''we have not demanded anything in return at all.'' He added:

''I have no knowledge of what the Administration is thinking but we have not asked for anything.''"

JACKSON BACK IN U.S. FROM CUBA WITH PRISONERS SET FREE BY CASTRO

There was no deal made like the one Flynn made.
. OK, but this doesn't apply if the foriegn government or government official was accused of something it was not guilty of, and then that government has sanctions put on it by a part of this government that was not authorized by the Congress of the United States who would have had to review the case, and then vote as to whether those accusations or sanctions were legal or not. Flynn is no more guilty than Obama was for by passing the Congress for sanctioning a country, and therefore authorizing an act of war against a country in which the sanctions represent.
Oh come now; giving a bunch of Russian spies the boot is hardly an act of war.
. It is an act of war. Period.
 
Flynn lied to the Vice-President about talking to the Russians about sanctions. That was very wrong.
. You people on the left, and in the corrupt media had Flynn thinking that any word spoken about the Russians would be used as a gotcha moment, so he witheld information in order to try and cool the gotcha situation (a situation where nothing was done wrong or illegal), but he felt he had to lie in order to cool the leftist rehtoric for whom are constantly on a butt hurt witch hunt in all of this.

No, if you don't do anything wrong, there is nothing to lie about. Why is this such a hard thing to understand?
. You never lied under pressure to help instead of hurt your personal family, country, countrymen, brothers and sisters etc. ???? Tell the truth now... Ever heard of a thing called coerced confessions that sent an innocent person to jail, only to find out years later that an innocent man had been locked up for crimes he didnot commit ?? Happens all the time. Not long ago a prosecutor was hammered for setting a man up, where as the man spent years locked up because of the actions of the prosecutor who was corrupt. You people making Flynn think that he was wrong is no different than getting someone to lie for fear of your accusations against him.

HE'S a fucking high ranking member of the government... and his actions have to do with national security, your comparison doesn't hold a drop of water.
. What's a shame is that you leftist are making the nation blink or second guess itself, and that is a huge national security issue in which you people don't give a crap about. I'll say it again, and that is that the leftist agenda is more important than our nation's security, unity, and well being.

I was listening to the BBC World Service last night and they had some hack on from The New York Times aka Prime Birdcage Liner and he said that a good replacement for Michael Flynn would be David Petraeus, lol, yes that David Petraeus who had to go in disgrace for breeching American National Security by allowing his Hack mistress to read classified documents.

So according to the Propagandists in the MSM Michael Flynn is bad, but David Petraeus should replace Flynn because Petraeus is um trustworthy or something :rolleyes-41:

"On November 9, 2012, General Petraeus resigned from his position as Director of the CIA, citing his extramarital affair, which was reportedly discovered in the course of an FBI investigation.[19] In January 2015, officials reported the FBI and Justice Department prosecutors had recommended bringing felony charges against Petraeus for allegedly providing classified information to his biographer, Paula Broadwell (with whom he was having an affair), while serving as Director of the CIA.[20] Eventually, Petraeus pled guilty to one misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified information.[21]"

David Petraeus - Wikipedia
 
Jesse Jackson couldn't make deals. There was nothing he could promise. Do you not understand that? Do you not understand the difference between a Goodwill ambassador and making back-door deals?

Jesse Jackson in 1984, went unauthorised to Cuba and Nicaragua, he returned to America with several Cuban political prisoners seeking asylum in the United States ALL UNAUTHORISED, not what you term a Goodwill ambassador promising nothing....but unauthorised and making an unauthorised back-door deal with Cuba and returning to America with political prisoners, a violation of The Logan Act.

Lord have mercy on your poor little soul. You don't understand a fucking thing. Please read the Logan Act:

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.


Logan Act - Wikipedia

Now, what kind of dispute did those political prisoners have to do with a dispute or controversy?

There was no deal with Cuba. Cuba didn't ask for anything in return for the freed prisoners.


"Mr. Castro said he had released the prisoners ''as a result of Rev. Jackson's visit. I did it for him and for the people of the United States.''

Mr. Castro said he did not expect Mr. Reagan to make a similar posture gesture toward Cuba, saying ''we have not demanded anything in return at all.'' He added:

''I have no knowledge of what the Administration is thinking but we have not asked for anything.''"

JACKSON BACK IN U.S. FROM CUBA WITH PRISONERS SET FREE BY CASTRO

There was no deal made like the one Flynn made.
. OK, but this doesn't apply if the foriegn government or government official was accused of something it was not guilty of, and then that government has sanctions put on it by a part of this government that was not authorized by the Congress of the United States who would have had to review the case, and then vote as to whether those accusations or sanctions were legal or not. Flynn is no more guilty than Obama was for by passing the Congress for sanctioning a country, and therefore authorizing an act of war against a country in which the sanctions represent.
Oh come now; giving a bunch of Russian spies the boot is hardly an act of war.
. It is an act of war. Period.

Now the Democrats are DEMANDING that Jefferson Sessions recuses himself from any investigation of Michael Flynn, incredibly they didn't demand that Loretta Lynch did anything of the sort with the Hillary Email situation, Lynch even met on a plane that was stationary with Bill Clinton in the middle of the election campaign at Bill's request.

President Trump effectively needs to tell this crowd to fuck off, you lost, I won, deal with it.
 
Jesse Jackson couldn't make deals. There was nothing he could promise. Do you not understand that? Do you not understand the difference between a Goodwill ambassador and making back-door deals?

Jesse Jackson in 1984, went unauthorised to Cuba and Nicaragua, he returned to America with several Cuban political prisoners seeking asylum in the United States ALL UNAUTHORISED, not what you term a Goodwill ambassador promising nothing....but unauthorised and making an unauthorised back-door deal with Cuba and returning to America with political prisoners, a violation of The Logan Act.

Lord have mercy on your poor little soul. You don't understand a fucking thing. Please read the Logan Act:

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.


Logan Act - Wikipedia

Now, what kind of dispute did those political prisoners have to do with a dispute or controversy?

There was no deal with Cuba. Cuba didn't ask for anything in return for the freed prisoners.


"Mr. Castro said he had released the prisoners ''as a result of Rev. Jackson's visit. I did it for him and for the people of the United States.''

Mr. Castro said he did not expect Mr. Reagan to make a similar posture gesture toward Cuba, saying ''we have not demanded anything in return at all.'' He added:

''I have no knowledge of what the Administration is thinking but we have not asked for anything.''"

JACKSON BACK IN U.S. FROM CUBA WITH PRISONERS SET FREE BY CASTRO

There was no deal made like the one Flynn made.
. OK, but this doesn't apply if the foriegn government or government official was accused of something it was not guilty of, and then that government has sanctions put on it by a part of this government that was not authorized by the Congress of the United States who would have had to review the case, and then vote as to whether those accusations or sanctions were legal or not. Flynn is no more guilty than Obama was for by passing the Congress for sanctioning a country, and therefore authorizing an act of war against a country in which the sanctions represent.
Oh come now; giving a bunch of Russian spies the boot is hardly an act of war.
. It is an act of war. Period.
Shock and Awe to destroy Iraq is an act of war. Showing the door to a bunch of GRU operatives aint.
 
Of itself, the Flynn affair might not bring down Trump but it certainly helps.

No, with the way top Republicans in Congress dislike Russia, if it can be proven that Trump knew Flynn was making an agreement with Russia about the sanctions, then Trump is toast. Those transcripts of Flynn's phone calls could be as famous as the Watergate tapes.
. Flynn did nothing wrong, but Obama accusing Russia of defeating Hillary in the election was wrong. Then using the power of his office to make it appear legitimate about what he was doing to punish Russia, could be an abuse of American power on the world stage.

How can you say he did nothing wrong? He wasn't a government official when he was discussing official government business. It's a direct definition of the Logan Act.
. Obama attacking a foreign nation without Congress was wrong, and he should be brought before them for his treachery because it endangers this nation, and all of us here. There needs to be hearings on his accusations, and then his actions against a foriegn country without the Congress approval.
 
. You never lied under pressure to help instead of hurt your personal family, country, countrymen, brothers and sisters etc. ???? Tell the truth now... Ever heard of a thing called coerced confessions that sent an innocent person to jail, only to find out years later that an innocent man had been locked up for crimes he didnot commit ?? Happens all the time. Not long ago a prosecutor was hammered for setting a man up, where as the man spent years locked up because of the actions of the prosecutor who was corrupt. You people making Flynn think that he was wrong is no different than getting someone to lie for fear of your accusations against him.

HE'S a fucking high ranking member of the government... and his actions have to do with national security, your comparison doesn't hold a drop of water.

Well President Bill Clinton lied under oath.
Bill Clinton could do no wrong in the leftist mind.

If the crowd now that are the frothing at the mouth Leftists, the Cuckservatives and the Propaganda MSM were around during The Cuban Missile Crisis they would have been DEMANDING that JFK nuke the Soviet Union, if that crowd would have been around then because JFK didn't nuke the Soviet Union they would have DEMANDED he be Impeached as a Russian Agent for NOT nuking the Soviet Union.

Beagle these people are FUCKING INSANE and dangerous lunatics and the Trump Administration needs to take the gloves off and deal with all of them in one, swift swoop.

Several Senators, including two Republican Senators are dangerously close to Sedition as are quite a number of the MSM organisations, there are American Traitors in the midst, the Trump Administration needs to stamp out these snakes in one, swift swoop and make them a very public example of.


People aren't calling for nuking of the Soviet Union... I'm sorry in your country you might act like idiots in government and just throw black bags over people's heads that are political rivals, but in the U.S. we don't do that barbaric shit. That's why people want to come to the U.S. for a better life... and why so many people are trying to stop immigrants from flooding our country, because we are above acting like you are saying.

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Of itself, the Flynn affair might not bring down Trump but it certainly helps.

No, with the way top Republicans in Congress dislike Russia, if it can be proven that Trump knew Flynn was making an agreement with Russia about the sanctions, then Trump is toast. Those transcripts of Flynn's phone calls could be as famous as the Watergate tapes.
. Flynn did nothing wrong, but Obama accusing Russia of defeating Hillary in the election was wrong. Then using the power of his office to make it appear legitimate about what he was doing to punish Russia, could be an abuse of American power on the world stage.

How can you say he did nothing wrong? He wasn't a government official when he was discussing official government business. It's a direct definition of the Logan Act.
. Obama attacking a foreign nation without Congress was wrong, and he should be brought before them for his treachery because it endangers this nation, and all of us here. There needs to be hearings on his accusations, and then his actions against a foriegn country without the Congress approval.


It wasn't an attack. He had people that they felt broke laws as foreign nationals to leave the country... he's allowed to do that.
 
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Nancy Pelosi Demands The Suspension Of Mike Flynn Over Russia Ties

Reports about Flynn show a “mortifying coziness” between Trump and Putin.


House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Saturday called for the suspension of Michael Flynn, President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, until an FBI probe determines the exact nature of his “secret contacts” with Russian officials. The congresswoman also said Flynn should have his security clearance revoked.

According to a recent Washington Post report, Flynn held private discussions with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, before Trump took office, promising that sanctions against Moscow would be eased by the incoming administration.

Flynn and Vice President Mike Pence had said that the phone calls were not related to sanctions. Flynn recently backtracked on that claim, saying he had “no recollection” of the details of the conversation.

President Barack Obama imposed fresh sanctions on Moscow in December after U.S. intelligence agencies determined that the Kremlin had orchestrated the hacking of Democratic Party emails ahead of the U.S. presidential election.

Any talk of sanctions before Trump took office could put Flynn in violation of the Logan Act, which bars private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments.

In a statement, Pelosi called the reports linking Flynn to Russia emblematic of the “mortifying coziness the Trump Administration has shown with [Russian President Vladimir] Putin.”

“Once again, I am calling on the FBI to investigate the financial, political and personal ties between President Donald Trump and Russia,” she said.

More: Nancy Pelosi Demands The Suspension Of Mike Flynn Over Russia Ties

I totally agree! Flynn must be thoroughly investigated - and his security clearance should be revoked in the meantime. He is a danger to our national security.


This is all about the Dems not liking Flynn and not wanting Trump as president. They are planning and searching constantly. but you know they are ridiculous hypocrites, especialy Pelosi. Dont forget how the DEms rallied around this clown.
Sandy Berger's Little Mistake

Democrats know virtually nothing about national security, proof being that they are the people who believe Islands can flip over when they are used to store too many munitions :badgrin::badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:. they can never live that one down either, It was one of the most embarrassing moments in human kind history. Please tell these people to stop lecturing us on things regarding stupidity.
Yeah this is all about the Dems not liking Trump. Which dem held a gun to Flynn's head and made him call the Russian ambassador and talk about the Russian sanctions WHILE OBAMA WAS STILL PRESIDENT?
We're all ears.
. If Obama's actions against Russia were pure political bull crap, and his actions were to try and derail Trump's presidency by using the power of his office to do so, then he needs to be brought before the Congress for his actions in order to be heard in a hearing. Flynn consoling the Russians on the matter was a service to the American people if Obama's interference in the election on Hillary's behalf, and his illegal actions afterwards had put this nations security at risk.
 
. You never lied under pressure to help instead of hurt your personal family, country, countrymen, brothers and sisters etc. ???? Tell the truth now... Ever heard of a thing called coerced confessions that sent an innocent person to jail, only to find out years later that an innocent man had been locked up for crimes he didnot commit ?? Happens all the time. Not long ago a prosecutor was hammered for setting a man up, where as the man spent years locked up because of the actions of the prosecutor who was corrupt. You people making Flynn think that he was wrong is no different than getting someone to lie for fear of your accusations against him.

HE'S a fucking high ranking member of the government... and his actions have to do with national security, your comparison doesn't hold a drop of water.

Well President Bill Clinton lied under oath.
Bill Clinton could do no wrong in the leftist mind.

If the crowd now that are the frothing at the mouth Leftists, the Cuckservatives and the Propaganda MSM were around during The Cuban Missile Crisis they would have been DEMANDING that JFK nuke the Soviet Union, if that crowd would have been around then because JFK didn't nuke the Soviet Union they would have DEMANDED he be Impeached as a Russian Agent for NOT nuking the Soviet Union.

Beagle these people are FUCKING INSANE and dangerous lunatics and the Trump Administration needs to take the gloves off and deal with all of them in one, swift swoop.

Several Senators, including two Republican Senators are dangerously close to Sedition as are quite a number of the MSM organisations, there are American Traitors in the midst, the Trump Administration needs to stamp out these snakes in one, swift swoop and make them a very public example of.


People aren't calling for nuking of the Soviet Union... I'm sorry in your country you might act like idiots in government and just throw black bags over people's heads that are political rivals, but in the U.S. we don't do that barbaric shit. That's why people want to come to the U.S. for a better life... and why so many people are trying to stop immigrants from flooding our country, because we are above acting like you are saying.

If people keep pushing the envelope, it'll be easy to begin throwing black bags over peoples heads and them being disappeared into the night.

This entire situation thats causing yet more bedwetting is all because people don't like Trump, again this is essentially what it boils down to, well people should be careful what they wish for, because compared to Pence, Trump is a teddy bear.
 
HE'S a fucking high ranking member of the government... and his actions have to do with national security, your comparison doesn't hold a drop of water.

Well President Bill Clinton lied under oath.
Bill Clinton could do no wrong in the leftist mind.

If the crowd now that are the frothing at the mouth Leftists, the Cuckservatives and the Propaganda MSM were around during The Cuban Missile Crisis they would have been DEMANDING that JFK nuke the Soviet Union, if that crowd would have been around then because JFK didn't nuke the Soviet Union they would have DEMANDED he be Impeached as a Russian Agent for NOT nuking the Soviet Union.

Beagle these people are FUCKING INSANE and dangerous lunatics and the Trump Administration needs to take the gloves off and deal with all of them in one, swift swoop.

Several Senators, including two Republican Senators are dangerously close to Sedition as are quite a number of the MSM organisations, there are American Traitors in the midst, the Trump Administration needs to stamp out these snakes in one, swift swoop and make them a very public example of.


People aren't calling for nuking of the Soviet Union... I'm sorry in your country you might act like idiots in government and just throw black bags over people's heads that are political rivals, but in the U.S. we don't do that barbaric shit. That's why people want to come to the U.S. for a better life... and why so many people are trying to stop immigrants from flooding our country, because we are above acting like you are saying.

If people keep pushing the envelope, it'll be easy to begin throwing black bags over peoples heads and them being disappeared into the night.

This entire situation thats causing yet more bedwetting is all because people don't like Trump, again this is essentially what it boils down to, well people should be careful what they wish for, because compared to Pence, Trump is a teddy bear.

No, sorry but black bags over people's heads hasn't happened in Congress or the White House since it all started in 1776. You won't be getting your wet dream any time soon.
 

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