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Did they?And for the record...herd immunity absent a decent treatment or vaccine would mean millions of deaths
Both Norway and South Korea have avoided that
www.nbcnews.com
Death rate trends. It really does not matter how they tabulate the deaths as long as it is consistent. The total number of cases or even the trend for those cases is, and will always be, irrelevant. The number of people passing away and the number of people requiring hospitalization give us the trajectory that matters no matter how many people have it or how likely it is o kill you.How can anyone really get anything out of the numbers when the numbers are bogus? More tests will statistically result in more positive results. We're trusting in tests that really have not been perfected. We're blaming COVID 19 for the deaths of everyone who dies with it regardless if they actually died as a result of something else. Most people who allegedly die from this are elderly. There is no way to logically use the numbers to make these draconian decisions Democrat governors are making. But these numbers can be rigged to justify these assholes destroying our economy by simply testing more and pointing out that there are more positive results. That proves nothing but you can be sure these shutdown dweebs will be saying the sky is falling.
Dude. Doctors care about your health not your wallet or the economics. How does and why should the doctors worried your financially? That is your problem not the doctors.You're the one telling us we should trust doctors to tell us whether we should work or not. What I'm telling you is that doctors are idiots who believe everyone earns half a million a year just like they do.W
Why is that my fault? Blame your messiah.Yeah, doctors are pretty fucking stupid about stuff like that. I've had doctors tell me to retire. How does the moron suppose I'm going to pay his bill if I don't have a job.You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
View attachment 334712
They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.
I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.
Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.
No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.
They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.
Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.
Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.
Elective surgeries have been canceled.
The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.
Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.
Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.
I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.
Dude. Doctors care about your health not your wallet or the economics. How does and why should the doctors worried your financially? That is your problem not the doctors.You're the one telling us we should trust doctors to tell us whether we should work or not. What I'm telling you is that doctors are idiots who believe everyone earns half a million a year just like they do.W
Why is that my fault? Blame your messiah.Yeah, doctors are pretty fucking stupid about stuff like that. I've had doctors tell me to retire. How does the moron suppose I'm going to pay his bill if I don't have a job.You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
View attachment 334712
They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.
I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.
Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.
No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.
They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.
Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.
Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.
Elective surgeries have been canceled.
The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.
Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.
Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.
I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.
With your foul mouthed. Do you even understand what you are posting?Doctors who don't care about your job are stupid. How are you going to pay doctor bills if you don't have a job?You are lying. Doctors are more concerned of your health than a jobs. Jobs can be regain your health is NOT. If you disagree with the rules by all means no one is holding you. Just imagine if these government officials didn’t have these restrictions. We will never seethe end of these crisis but keeps growing. Don’t you think?You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
View attachment 334712
They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.
I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.
Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.
No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.
They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.
Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.
Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.
Elective surgeries have been canceled.
The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.
Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.
Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.
I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.
I can assure you that I know dozens and dozens and they aren't real concerned about this virus. Whats at stake is that the governors, state, local officials who have unconstitutionally held states down need to be investigated.
TDS morons are all suffering from brain damage.
And for the record, jobs are not that easy to regain. People often become unemployed and then never work in the same capacity again.
Yes it does matter because 1. You made a nonsense comparison without facts. 2. SK was able to control the CV-19 far better than US.Does it matter what cities and countries we are discussing? They opened and the virus spiked, and that is my point.We are not talking about city of Seoul and Atlanta.....Dr. Fauci is not wrong. Georgia just opened so give it a chance. South Korea had been closed and had very good results. Now they have opened and the virus has spiked.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Do people not understand that Koreans all live in one fucking city?
The only place comparable to places like that in East Asia are NY/NJ and chicago
And really chicago is more of a commuter city anyway. Although people do use the metro to get into the city. Once you're in you don't generally use public transport unless you live there. Or maybe you ride one of hte lines to work if it's really convenient.
Comparing Seoul to Atlanta is absurd
Okay. So educate me. We are talking South Korea a country with 52 millions Koreans. California populations is about 40 millions. New York State 20 millions.
Why is S. Korea with more populations than Ca has far less cases and death of CV-19?
Why is S. Korea with more populations than NY has far less cases and death of CV-19?
Oh, right. That must be why they send bill collectors after you if you don't pay their bill. Apparently you're saying that doctors are assholes.Dude. Doctors care about your health not your wallet or the economics. How does and why should the doctors worried your financially? That is your problem not the doctors.You're the one telling us we should trust doctors to tell us whether we should work or not. What I'm telling you is that doctors are idiots who believe everyone earns half a million a year just like they do.W
Why is that my fault? Blame your messiah.Yeah, doctors are pretty fucking stupid about stuff like that. I've had doctors tell me to retire. How does the moron suppose I'm going to pay his bill if I don't have a job.You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
View attachment 334712
They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.
I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.
Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.
No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.
They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.
Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.
Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.
Elective surgeries have been canceled.
The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.
Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.
Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.
I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.
How are you going to feed your family or pay for your doctors if you don't have a job, eh you fucking dumbass?With your foul mouthed. Do you even understand what you are posting?Doctors who don't care about your job are stupid. How are you going to pay doctor bills if you don't have a job?You are lying. Doctors are more concerned of your health than a jobs. Jobs can be regain your health is NOT. If you disagree with the rules by all means no one is holding you. Just imagine if these government officials didn’t have these restrictions. We will never seethe end of these crisis but keeps growing. Don’t you think?You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
View attachment 334712
They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.
I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.
Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.
No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.
They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.
Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.
Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.
Elective surgeries have been canceled.
The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.
Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.
Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.
I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.
I can assure you that I know dozens and dozens and they aren't real concerned about this virus. Whats at stake is that the governors, state, local officials who have unconstitutionally held states down need to be investigated.
TDS morons are all suffering from brain damage.
And for the record, jobs are not that easy to regain. People often become unemployed and then never work in the same capacity again.
I’m so sick of TDS defense. TRUMPTARD DERANGED SYMPATHIZERS.
How are you going to pay for your doctors? If you are going to die and really sick. How are you going to pay for your doctors, feed your family or get a job???? Explain that. So what difference does it make?
By all means. I’m not holding you back.Trump mishandling of the pandemic is not acceptable especially when he downplayed this crisis. As late February 20 in his rally he called this a democrat new hoax. Didn’t do anything till mid March but very busy blaming and pointing fingers + playing golf.Why are you mad? Why not blame your fake messiah who made the pandemic worse? I have nothing to do with it.We
ll that is true why have we not eliminated the flu death each year? CV-19 is very new to develop any kinds of immunity. Downplaying this virus has a very significant serious problem today and in the future.Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
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They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
All people with medical knowledge say it is only when a new virus first hits that it is really dangerous.
They all say we then develop herd immunity and it becomes much less significant.
Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
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They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.
I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.
Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.
No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.
They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.
Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.
Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.
Elective surgeries have been canceled.
The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.
Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.
Crashing this economy over such idiocy as a weak virus is egregious and disturbing. The governors, state, local officials need to be held accountable for their utter disregard of the constitution.
It’s true people need to got back to work but need practice precautions.
Im not mad. Trump isn't to blame for this virus. Some people need to be careful but the other 99 percent don't and the healthy should never be quarantined.
How do you even know which one or not need to be quarantined? How do you even know which one is healthy? How do I know you will not infect me or me infecting others?
I understand these are severe that we have to go through but we don’t have that much choice. I think.
I’m very active person lots of activities. this is killing me. 2 weeks ago I have a fight with a cop parked by the beach. I lease a condo by the beach so I can get closer to my kids and their kids. A cop with his car parked right by the beach close to our compound. There’s no one there at the beach not a single soul. I asked him very nicely. I said son........ if I can just stand there and practice my (screams at certain high notes) voice. I’m not going to the water. I just need no more than 10 minutes to practice my (vocal cord) voice. He said NO. I looked at him. I told him THIS IS NOT GOING TO COST YOU. ARREST ME IF YOU WANT. And I just walked towards the beach and stand by the sand no more than 5 feet from the pavement. He was staring at me didn’t say anything. When I was done I passed by him and say Thank you.
I'm not ruled by fear. Thats the difference.
You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
View attachment 334712
They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.
I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.
Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.
No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.
They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.
Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.
Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.
Elective surgeries have been canceled.
The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.
Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.
Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.
I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.
You really need to go back and read who actually made that statement.
It wasn't me.
I was the person who said no doctor would say such a thing. I'm also the person who pointed out that hospitals and doctors offices aren't closed. They're essential so no doctor would be worrying if they had a job or not.
The person who actually stated that was lordbrowntrout.
I think you need to direct your reply to that person.
Not me.
Actually after all these I didn’t mean to quote you Dana. My big apologies. I was at the back coming a barbecue corns. And I just remember I think that was Dana. Again my apologies.
Well stupid fuck. How are you going to feed your family if you get really sick and die? You are dumber than I thought. Why are you arguing with me? Why don’t you blame Trump with your miserable low life? Did I cause the crisis? People like you was part of the problem when you elected a lousy inept incompetent president. Despite of what he did you still support him then blame others with your failures and low miserable life. You are an idiot.How are you going to feed your family or pay for your doctors if you don't have a job, eh you fucking dumbass?With your foul mouthed. Do you even understand what you are posting?Doctors who don't care about your job are stupid. How are you going to pay doctor bills if you don't have a job?You are lying. Doctors are more concerned of your health than a jobs. Jobs can be regain your health is NOT. If you disagree with the rules by all means no one is holding you. Just imagine if these government officials didn’t have these restrictions. We will never seethe end of these crisis but keeps growing. Don’t you think?You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
View attachment 334712
They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.
I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.
Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.
No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.
They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.
Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.
Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.
Elective surgeries have been canceled.
The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.
Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.
Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.
I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.
I can assure you that I know dozens and dozens and they aren't real concerned about this virus. Whats at stake is that the governors, state, local officials who have unconstitutionally held states down need to be investigated.
TDS morons are all suffering from brain damage.
And for the record, jobs are not that easy to regain. People often become unemployed and then never work in the same capacity again.
I’m so sick of TDS defense. TRUMPTARD DERANGED SYMPATHIZERS.
How are you going to pay for your doctors? If you are going to die and really sick. How are you going to pay for your doctors, feed your family or get a job???? Explain that. So what difference does it make?
?Dude. Doctors care about your health not your wallet or the economics. How does and why should the doctors worried your financially? That is your problem not the doctors.You're the one telling us we should trust doctors to tell us whether we should work or not. What I'm telling you is that doctors are idiots who believe everyone earns half a million a year just like they do.W
Why is that my fault? Blame your messiah.Yeah, doctors are pretty fucking stupid about stuff like that. I've had doctors tell me to retire. How does the moron suppose I'm going to pay his bill if I don't have a job.You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
View attachment 334712
They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.
I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.
Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.
No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.
They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.
Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.
Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.
Elective surgeries have been canceled.
The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.
Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.
Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.
I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.
If they cared about health, they would be promoting nutrition, vitamins, preventative measures but then they wouldn't have a job if everyone was healthy.
Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
At Cedars Sinai Los Angeles, City of Hope, Loma Linda or Kaiser Los Angeles county and Riverside and San Diego..... ALL*** Are you serious? Yes they can tell you if you have pneumonia or covid-19 respiratory infections. Very simple.Fauci has been wrong about everything, moron.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
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No he hasn’t. But Trump has. So every time Trump fucks things up, things get worse.
60,000 to 100,000 deaths in one year, if you did everything right. Well you blew by that number in 6 weeks.
Right now, you’re looking at 300,000 dead Americans, if nobody else gets sick. Just from those already dead and the people who are currently sick.
Where the fuck are you getting these "This is definitely how many deaths there would have been if . . ." numbers from? Your crystal ball? How the fuck do you know what would or wouldn't have happened in a world that never actually existed?
Where am I getting my numbers from?
COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...www.worldometers.info
The same place I've been getting them since early March.
Current rate of deaths worldwide 15% of closed cases.
Current rate of death in the USA based on 384,440 closed cases: 22%. Active cases 1,032,958 cases. 22% of active cases 227,250 more deaths, if no one else gets sick. That will bring your total to over 300,000 deaths.
Even if the USA lowers its rate of death to the world level of 15%, that's still 154,943 more American deaths, over and above the 84,000 who have already died. And both numbers are based on absolutely no one else getting the virus.
When the Trump Administration has released numbers, they have always released and touted the most optimistic lowest numbers possible. Then adjusted upwards when forced to. Now they're just desperate to down play the level of death anticipated.
When I said more than 100,000 Americans would die, people called me deranged. You'll hit 100,000 deaths by Memorial Day Weekend. Seriously, this has gone well beyond "horrific".
84,000 dead, lol
Oh honey you are very confused about how these respiratory issues work.
Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
National Center for Health Statisticswww.cdc.gov
***These people are dying of "pneumonia" like symptoms. Doctors have no ability to distinguish this respiratory problem from another.
Data is unbelievably flawed. 15% death rate lol
You'd have to accurate test huge random samples to have any idea of the death rate. It's probably well under 1%
No it's not, which is why they include pneumonia deaths in the covid chart
Simply saying it's simple doesn't make it so....
Those asteriks say otherwise.
Not to mention the testing going on here is in question.
IDK what the fuck you're linking but that's not the CDC numbers
?Dude. Doctors care about your health not your wallet or the economics. How does and why should the doctors worried your financially? That is your problem not the doctors.You're the one telling us we should trust doctors to tell us whether we should work or not. What I'm telling you is that doctors are idiots who believe everyone earns half a million a year just like they do.W
Why is that my fault? Blame your messiah.Yeah, doctors are pretty fucking stupid about stuff like that. I've had doctors tell me to retire. How does the moron suppose I'm going to pay his bill if I don't have a job.You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).Really? How does it prove that?You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.LOLHealth professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expectingOver all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Wrong. Fauci is right.
Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886
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They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.
Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.
You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.
We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.
You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.
All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.
I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.
I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.
Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.
No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.
They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.
Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.
Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.
Elective surgeries have been canceled.
The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.
Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.
Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.
I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.
If they cared about health, they would be promoting nutrition, vitamins, preventative measures but then they wouldn't have a job if everyone was healthy.
Your doctor does not do that? I have had some of the worst doctors out there and they all promoted all of those things...
You might need a new doc
I was talking with a few Doctors in the biological weapons field of study and Fauci was right in the beginning but after about week 6 he went off the rails. The problem, Fauci is relying on modeling that has over 500 variables in it. Many of those variables are unknowns that no one can ever know.Tiny Tony Fraudi has been very consistent. He has been wrong 100% of the time.
We now know who is most vulnerable and who will be affected the least. It is time to take reasonable precautions for those we can and get on with life. The longer this goes on the more damage it does to the economy and the businesses that keep our country running. At this point the drive to keep the country closed is partisan and driven by politics. Democrats think they can get power back if they can cause enough damage to blame on Trump.
Flyover Country is feed up with democrap bull shit.. IF they want to tank their own states, let them. Trump gave the governors back control and enough rope to hang themselves with.
It was not a nonsense comparison and nobody has all the facts. SK did indeed control the CV-19 far better than did Trump, but when they opened the virus spiked.Yes it does matter because 1. You made a nonsense comparison without facts. 2. SK was able to control the CV-19 far better than US.Does it matter what cities and countries we are discussing? They opened and the virus spiked, and that is my point.We are not talking about city of Seoul and Atlanta.....Dr. Fauci is not wrong. Georgia just opened so give it a chance. South Korea had been closed and had very good results. Now they have opened and the virus has spiked.Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.
In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).
Do people not understand that Koreans all live in one fucking city?
The only place comparable to places like that in East Asia are NY/NJ and chicago
And really chicago is more of a commuter city anyway. Although people do use the metro to get into the city. Once you're in you don't generally use public transport unless you live there. Or maybe you ride one of hte lines to work if it's really convenient.
Comparing Seoul to Atlanta is absurd
Okay. So educate me. We are talking South Korea a country with 52 millions Koreans. California populations is about 40 millions. New York State 20 millions.
Why is S. Korea with more populations than Ca has far less cases and death of CV-19?
Why is S. Korea with more populations than NY has far less cases and death of CV-19?
