Nato Opens door to Sweden/Finland-How will this play in US Politics?

[Big Bend Texas]

That makes no sense. They cannot invade NATO now without repercussions. Again, what have they lost?

Well yes it does, not all of Russia's neighbors are NATO members.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I’m afraid you’re delusional. The US invaded Iraq TWICE based on lies. The result was our military destroyed the country’s infrastructure, except for the oil fields. Funny that…By some estimates one million Iraqi men, women, and children died. Yet you think this admirable.

The oil fields were destroyed by the Iraqis.

Who killed all of those people? It certainly was not us!

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Interventions not "invasions", read the article.
How much new land did NATO keep from those interventions? Hint: none
Russia invades and keeps the land grab. See the difference?

Facts don't really seem to matter or even be welcome in these discussions.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

In Bosnia the Russians moved in threatening us as we bombed the Serbs who were committing Genocide. They took men, women, and children into stadiums and slsughtered them.

Fuck Russia

Putin is the last man anyone should defend and fearing the asshole is a big mistake because you want your next Hitler, well there you go and believe me Putin will Genocide everyone he view as a threat!

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Interventions not "invasions", read the article.
How much new land did NATO keep from those interventions? Hint: none
Russia invades and keeps the land grab. See the difference?

Russia could invade Alaska and I bet you a wooden nickel that some will say let Putin have it because they don’t want to upset the individual…

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Will you please STFU! Who the fuck said anything about salt mines? Uh, YOU DID, dumbass!

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Cave-Dwellers: Inside the US Marine Corps Prepositioning Program-Norway

Deep within a Norwegian hillside, thousands of US Marine Corps combat veterans await their next assignment.

www.defensenews.com

I guess these fucking thing are figments of my imagination! They sure look like Humvees to me!

The caves they are stored in have constant temperature and humidity. Corrosion is not an issue. Norwegian civilians maintain the equipment.

Now, go slither back under that rock in the desert of Texas until you learn some respect for your betters!

They only have enough prepositioned equipment to support a force of 15,000 men for about 30 days.

Russia could invade with an army of 50-100K easily.

Again, that's a very small amount of vehicles and supplies that would be rapidly exhausted if there was an invasion.

Without a constant logistical train brining in even more men, equipment and supplies those forces and stockpiles would be rapidly overwhelmed and overcome.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

The US military has never invaded another country to keep the land and resources.
The US builds coalitions, like when we threw Saddam out of Kuwait.
The US removed Saddam from power and set Iraq free from his brutality.
The US went into AFG to eliminate AQ, and then mistakenly tried to build a democracy.

Putin took Crimea, and invaded Ukraine to make it part of Russia.

We're the only country on earth that has routinely rebuilt countries we've gone to war with and usually leave them better off than they were before we went to war with them.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well yes it does, not all of Russia's neighbors are NATO members.

Really? Most of those countries are former Soviet states.

These are countries that share a border with Russia:
Azerbaijan, Belarus, China, Estonia, Finland, Georgia, Kazakhstan, North Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Mongolia, Norway, Poland, Finland, and Ukraine.

Former Soviet states. NATO countries.

Now, you were saying?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Go ahead keep poking the bear at its borders.....colonialists...globo homo expansionist tools

You should probably quit using words you don't understand.

We're not practicing Colonialism by any definition of the word.

Ukraine has proven why NATO is necessary and why the other former Soviet States should consider joining.

The only thing Putin has to fear from NATO is that we'll stop him from invading other countries.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Really? Most of those countries are former Soviet states.

These are countries that share a border with Russia:
Azerbaijan, Belarus, China, Estonia, Finland, Georgia, Kazakhstan, North Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Mongolia, Norway, Poland, Finland, and Ukraine.

Former Soviet states. NATO countries.

Now, you were saying?

Compare your list to this one.

Member countries

www.nato.int

Not all of Russia's Neighbors are NATO members.

 

[22lcidw]

Putin and all his little Putinettes are pretending that NATO, and a bigger NATO, is a threat to attack and invade ol' Mother Russia at any minute.

Which, of course, is paranoid fantasy. Those authoritarians sure to love to pump out that paranoid fantasy.

When the Soviet Union was putting Nukes in Cuba in the early 1960's we laughed in a jovial manner. The globalists are doing this.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They only have enough prepositioned equipment to support a force of 15,000 men for about 30 days.

Russia could invade with an army of 50-100K easily.

Again, that's a very small amount of vehicles and supplies that would be rapidly exhausted if there was an invasion.

Without a constant logistical train brining in even more men, equipment and supplies those forces and stockpiles would be rapidly overwhelmed and overcome.

You mean the 50-100K that are dying like a stalk of bananas in Ukraine? They start out green, turn yellow, and die by the bunches!

The Russian military is a paper tiger. Those conscripted soldiers have no incentive to fight for Mother Russia,

I want to know why you don't think we have ships that can resupply our forces.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

When the Soviet Union was putting Nukes in Cuba in the early 1960's we laughed in a jovial manner. The globalists are doing this.

The US isn't putting nukes on Russia's border.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Compare your list to this one.

Member countries

www.nato.int

Not all of Russia's Neighbors are NATO members.

So? Like you said, NATO has always existed to prevent a Russian/Soviet invasion of Europe.

If you had a point, you failed to make it again!

 

[xyz]

Really? Most of those countries are former Soviet states.

These are countries that share a border with Russia:
Azerbaijan, Belarus, China, Estonia, Finland, Georgia, Kazakhstan, North Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Mongolia, Norway, Poland, Finland, and Ukraine.

Former Soviet states. NATO countries.

Now, you were saying?

I'm pretty sure the 3 Baltic States are NATO as well.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

You mean the 50-100K that are dying like a stalk of bananas in Ukraine? They start out green, turn yellow, and die by the bunches!

The Russian military is a paper tiger. Those conscripted soldiers have no incentive to fight for Mother Russia,

I want to know why you don't think we have ships that can resupply our forces.

Russia has lost about 20,000 men in Ukraine a country many times the size of Finland. The biggest reason they've had such losses is they waited too late to invade and did so after the ground had already begun to thaw.

We can do a lot of things, what we can't do is move vast amounts of men and supplies by ship into the North Atlantic easily or without considerable risk during a winter war.

A brief study of the battle for the North Atlantic during WWII gives us a good idea of what difficulties exist and what kinds of losses we could expect.

Putin is not the permanent head of Russia and they will learn from their mistakes in Ukraine so the next invasion of the west by Russia isn't likely to be as poorly conceived and executed.

The US can do amazing things, taming the North Atlantic in winter is not among them.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

So? Like you said, NATO has always existed to prevent a Russian/Soviet invasion of Europe.

If you had a point, you failed to make it again!

It is a fact not all of Russia's neighbors are NATO countries and NATO is not bound to intervene in an invasion of non NATO member countries.

Ukraine is a perfect example. If they had already joined NATO there would have been no invasion because it would trigger Article 5 and the full force of all NATO member nations would have come down on his head like a mountain sized asteroid.

 

[gipper]

Interventions not "invasions", read the article.
How much new land did NATO keep from those interventions? Hint: none
Russia invades and keeps the land grab. See the difference?

Yeah such a big difference. Untold numbers of dead and wounded, nations destroyed and thousands displaced. Dumb Americans think this is somehow admirable.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Yeah such a big difference. Untold numbers of dead and wounded, nations destroyed and thousands displaced. Dumb Americans think this is somehow admirable.

What nations specifically has NATO destroyed? NATO has only responded to ongoing conflicts and only done so with the to goal of stopping them from spreading and to end the massacres of civilians in those countries.

 

[gipper]

What nations specifically has NATO destroyed?

Asking such a question further proves what a fool you are. Ever heard of Libya or Serbia?
Major NATO Military Interventions