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Listen dingleberry
the problem is that the Zionists decided to create a country in AN AREA THAT WAS ALREADY POPULATED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER
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Can you understand that the country was populated with both the Jewish people and Arabs? And can you understand that the Jewish people were RE-CREATING their Nation -- in which they were expelled, oppressed, invaded, murdered, conquered and settled by foreigners? And can you understand that there is plenty of room for both peoples -- as evidenced by the 10-fold increase in population since the 1920s?
Why can't the Arab Muslims live next to Jews? Sheesh.
There were a small number of Arab Jews in Palestine before the European Zionist invasion. They were culturally Arabs, like the Christians and the Muslims. Nearly all of the people that practiced Judaism or other religions in Roman Palestine converted to Christianity when Christianity became the state religion. The current day Palestinians are the descendants of the people that have always lived in Palestine.
Another one of Your amusing 'facts'?
With such wild imagination I could find You enough evidence that Cows are aliens.
Try a library, a real one in a building.
Listen dingleberry
the problem is that the Zionists decided to create a country in AN AREA THAT WAS ALREADY POPULATED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER
.
Can you understand that the country was populated with both the Jewish people and Arabs? And can you understand that the Jewish people were RE-CREATING their Nation -- in which they were expelled, oppressed, invaded, murdered, conquered and settled by foreigners? And can you understand that there is plenty of room for both peoples -- as evidenced by the 10-fold increase in population since the 1920s?
Why can't the Arab Muslims live next to Jews? Sheesh.
There were a small number of Arab Jews in Palestine before the European Zionist invasion. They were culturally Arabs, like the Christians and the Muslims. Nearly all of the people that practiced Judaism or other religions in Roman Palestine converted to Christianity when Christianity became the state religion. The current day Palestinians are the descendants of the people that have always lived in Palestine.
Another one of Your amusing 'facts'?
With such wild imagination I could find You enough evidence that Cows are aliens.
Try a library, a real one in a building.
Of course these facts come from historical treatises and are based on events that actually happened. Your propaganda is not based on facts. There is even documentary film evidence for morons like you that have difficulty reading historical texts.
Listen dingleberry
the problem is that the Zionists decided to create a country in AN AREA THAT WAS ALREADY POPULATED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER
.
Can you understand that the country was populated with both the Jewish people and Arabs? And can you understand that the Jewish people were RE-CREATING their Nation -- in which they were expelled, oppressed, invaded, murdered, conquered and settled by foreigners? And can you understand that there is plenty of room for both peoples -- as evidenced by the 10-fold increase in population since the 1920s?
Why can't the Arab Muslims live next to Jews? Sheesh.
There were a small number of Arab Jews in Palestine before the European Zionist invasion. They were culturally Arabs, like the Christians and the Muslims. Nearly all of the people that practiced Judaism or other religions in Roman Palestine converted to Christianity when Christianity became the state religion. The current day Palestinians are the descendants of the people that have always lived in Palestine.
Another one of Your amusing 'facts'?
With such wild imagination I could find You enough evidence that Cows are aliens.
Try a library, a real one in a building.
Of course these facts come from historical treatises and are based on events that actually happened. Your propaganda is not based on facts. There is even documentary film evidence for morons like you that have difficulty reading historical texts.
What it means, and what anyone that has studied the subject knows, is that the people of Palestine are descendants of the people that had always lived in Palestine. That they converted for convenience or by law did not change the genetics of the people. Non Christians were banned from Palestine from 380 AD until the Muslim conquest, so those of other religions that wanted to remain residents of Palestine converted to Christianity.
Arab is a cultural and linguistic designation. Moroccans have very little (if any) Arabian genetic heritage, but they are considered Arabs. Arabians are the people of the Arabian peninsula. Most Palestinians today are Christians or Muslims, so are not Jewish. Many of their ancestors practiced Judaism, so many of their ancestors were Jewish, but many of their ancestors also practiced the Samaritan religion, the Roman religions etc.
What it means, and what anyone that has studied the subject knows, is that the people of Palestine are descendants of the people that had always lived in Palestine. That they converted for convenience or by law did not change the genetics of the people. Non Christians were banned from Palestine from 380 AD until the Muslim conquest, so those of other religions that wanted to remain residents of Palestine converted to Christianity.
Arab is a cultural and linguistic designation. Moroccans have very little (if any) Arabian genetic heritage, but they are considered Arabs. Arabians are the people of the Arabian peninsula. Most Palestinians today are Christians or Muslims, so are not Jewish. Many of their ancestors practiced Judaism, so many of their ancestors were Jewish, but many of their ancestors also practiced the Samaritan religion, the Roman religions etc.
Ah, the "everyone knows" meme.
That's interesting because the Mongol invasion of the area of Pal'istan as well as the history of other invaders would refute your silly claim "the people of Palestine are descendants of the people that had always lived in Palestine."
Obviously, you have not studied the matter. There is wiki, of course.
Are you that befuddled, Monte, that you don't know to whom you are responding? Maybe you need a little rest from this forum. In fact, maybe you need shock treatments since evidently you are so obsessed that you have no life. You can pick up your demonizing the Jews afterward.. Meanwhile, did anyone see Monte make a comment to the poster who happened to bring up North Korea recently on this forum, telling him there was a forum for that?Just facts MJ, just facts that you just can't accept. Now, if you want to discuss the Middle East in general, there is a section for just that. This is the I/P section.
The ARTI-facts that no one but a demented soul can accept.Just facts MJ, just facts that you just can't accept. Now, if you want to discuss the Middle East in general, there is a section for just that. This is the I/P section.
Listen dingleberry
the problem is that the Zionists decided to create a country in AN AREA THAT WAS ALREADY POPULATED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER
.
Can you understand that the country was populated with both the Jewish people and Arabs? And can you understand that the Jewish people were RE-CREATING their Nation -- in which they were expelled, oppressed, invaded, murdered, conquered and settled by foreigners? And can you understand that there is plenty of room for both peoples -- as evidenced by the 10-fold increase in population since the 1920s?
Why can't the Arab Muslims live next to Jews? Sheesh.
There were a small number of Arab Jews in Palestine before the European Zionist invasion. They were culturally Arabs, like the Christians and the Muslims. Nearly all of the people that practiced Judaism or other religions in Roman Palestine converted to Christianity when Christianity became the state religion. The current day Palestinians are the descendants of the people that have always lived in Palestine.
Another one of Your amusing 'facts'?
With such wild imagination I could find You enough evidence that Cows are aliens.
Try a library, a real one in a building.
Of course these facts come from historical treatises and are based on events that actually happened. Your propaganda is not based on facts. There is even documentary film evidence for morons like you that have difficulty reading historical texts.
Are you that befuddled, Monte, that you don't know to whom you are responding? Maybe you need a little rest from this forum. In fact, maybe you need shock treatments since evidently you are so obsessed that you have no life. You can pick up your demonizing the Jews afterward.. Meanwhile, did anyone see Monte make a comment to the poster who happened to bring up North Korea recently on this forum, telling him there was a forum for that?Just facts MJ, just facts that you just can't accept. Now, if you want to discuss the Middle East in general, there is a section for just that. This is the I/P section.
In ending, since Monte puts in his best effort to prove that the Jews don't belong to Israel, others think differently than he does. Monte will call it all propaganda as he usually does, but I think a lot of the readers will see that the author studied his subject and will roll their eyes at Monte's input.
The Arabs in the Holy Land – Natives or Immigrants?
The ARTI-facts that no one but a demented soul can accept.Just facts MJ, just facts that you just can't accept. Now, if you want to discuss the Middle East in general, there is a section for just that. This is the I/P section.
I wasn't even talking to you Newbie. I was talking to Art whose German relatives killed my relatives.
I wasn't even talking to you Newbie. I was talking to Art whose German relatives killed my relatives.
If you are referring to me - my German relatives did not kill any Jews.
They were honest and decent people who worked hard, they were not parasites, and I am very proud of my German ancestors.
I have already told that many times, but you desperately try to play the old and tired "Collective-Eternal-German-Guilt-Card", and hope that this will work.
In fact my German relatives were killed by Jewish Bolsheviks who killed millions and millions of Christians.
The Bolsheviks killed more innocent civilians than any other totalitarian regimes in the 20th century, but who cares about the feeling of Christians?
Marxism is still "kosher", you can call yourself a proud Marxist, you can be violent and be proud of the mass murders, committed by Bolsheviks against Christians, this is not outlawed.
I do not know for sure if these Jewish Bolsheviks, who killed my German relatives, were your relatives, and I will never play the "Jewish-Bolshevik-Guilt-Card", because I do not believe in collective responsibility.
Everybody should be responsible and ashamed only for his own actions.
I am not interested in what your Jewish relatives did, you are not responsible for that, I only care about what you yourself do in this forum.
You seem to support the crimes of Zionists, you seem to think that Nakba was not bad for the cause of Zionism, and you should be ashamed of what you personally do.
I wasn't even talking to you Newbie. I was talking to Art whose German relatives killed my relatives.
If you are referring to me - my German relatives did not kill any Jews.
They were honest and decent people who worked hard, they were not parasites, and I am very proud of my German ancestors.
I have already told that many times, but you desperately try to play the old and tired "Collective-Eternal-German-Guilt-Card", and hope that this will work.
In fact my German relatives were killed by Jewish Bolsheviks who killed millions and millions of Christians.
The Bolsheviks killed more innocent civilians than any other totalitarian regimes in the 20th century, but who cares about the feeling of Christians?
Marxism is still "kosher", you can call yourself a proud Marxist, you can be violent and be proud of the mass murders, committed by Bolsheviks against Christians, this is not outlawed.
I do not know for sure if these Jewish Bolsheviks, who killed my German relatives, were your relatives, and I will never play the "Jewish-Bolshevik-Guilt-Card", because I do not believe in collective responsibility.
Everybody should be responsible and ashamed only for his own actions.
I am not interested in what your Jewish relatives did, you are not responsible for that, I only care about what you yourself do in this forum.
You seem to support the crimes of Zionists, you seem to think that Nakba was not bad for the cause of Zionism, and you should be ashamed of what you personally do.
I wasn't even talking to you Newbie. I was talking to Art whose German relatives killed my relatives.
If you are referring to me - my German relatives did not kill any Jews.
They were honest and decent people who worked hard, they were not parasites, and I am very proud of my German ancestors.
I have already told that many times, but you desperately try to play the old and tired "Collective-Eternal-German-Guilt-Card", and hope that this will work.
In fact my German relatives were killed by Jewish Bolsheviks who killed millions and millions of Christians.
The Bolsheviks killed more innocent civilians than any other totalitarian regimes in the 20th century, but who cares about the feeling of Christians?
Marxism is still "kosher", you can call yourself a proud Marxist, you can be violent and be proud of the mass murders, committed by Bolsheviks against Christians, this is not outlawed.
I do not know for sure if these Jewish Bolsheviks, who killed my German relatives, were your relatives, and I will never play the "Jewish-Bolshevik-Guilt-Card", because I do not believe in collective responsibility.
Everybody should be responsible and ashamed only for his own actions.
I am not interested in what your Jewish relatives did, you are not responsible for that, I only care about what you yourself do in this forum.
You seem to support the crimes of Zionists, you seem to think that Nakba was not bad for the cause of Zionism, and you should be ashamed of what you personally do.
Anyway, you are a hypocrite when you say that you don't believe in collective responsibility, especially from a long time ago. Just this week, a Muslim attacked a nightclub in Turkey because "they were celebrating a pagan Christian holiday", and a few weeks before that a Muslim truck rammed into Christmas shoppers in your Fatherland, the accursed Germany. Yet you love Muslims because many centuries ago they wrote that Jesus was a prophet in the Quran. Yet we Jews, who get along famously with Christians these days, are blamed collectively by you yourself because my ancestors supposedly killed your god, or because of some obscure references to him in the Talmud.
I wasn't even talking to you Newbie. I was talking to Art whose German relatives killed my relatives.
If you are referring to me - my German relatives did not kill any Jews.
They were honest and decent people who worked hard, they were not parasites, and I am very proud of my German ancestors.
I have already told that many times, but you desperately try to play the old and tired "Collective-Eternal-German-Guilt-Card", and hope that this will work.
In fact my German relatives were killed by Jewish Bolsheviks who killed millions and millions of Christians.
The Bolsheviks killed more innocent civilians than any other totalitarian regimes in the 20th century, but who cares about the feeling of Christians?
Marxism is still "kosher", you can call yourself a proud Marxist, you can be violent and be proud of the mass murders, committed by Bolsheviks against Christians, this is not outlawed.
I do not know for sure if these Jewish Bolsheviks, who killed my German relatives, were your relatives, and I will never play the "Jewish-Bolshevik-Guilt-Card", because I do not believe in collective responsibility.
Everybody should be responsible and ashamed only for his own actions.
I am not interested in what your Jewish relatives did, you are not responsible for that, I only care about what you yourself do in this forum.
You seem to support the crimes of Zionists, you seem to think that Nakba was not bad for the cause of Zionism, and you should be ashamed of what you personally do.
Anyway, you are a hypocrite when you say that you don't believe in collective responsibility, especially from a long time ago. Just this week, a Muslim attacked a nightclub in Turkey because "they were celebrating a pagan Christian holiday", and a few weeks before that a Muslim truck rammed into Christmas shoppers in your Fatherland, the accursed Germany. Yet you love Muslims because many centuries ago they wrote that Jesus was a prophet in the Quran. Yet we Jews, who get along famously with Christians these days, are blamed collectively by you yourself because my ancestors supposedly killed your god, or because of some obscure references to him in the Talmud.
Is it "foreveryoung" or foreverstupid"
In 1949 Harry S Truman threw 1.5 million Muslims under the bus when he made them foreigners in their own land - he gave Palestine to the Zionists.
Since 1949 the US has given Israel 125 BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBillion dollars which have been used to conduct the Palestinian genocide.
From 1925 to 1949 Menachem Begin and the Irgun Terrorist Zionist gang terrorized the Palestinians and the British,
Let's talk about that for a while.
.
I wasn't even talking to you Newbie. I was talking to Art whose German relatives killed my relatives.
If you are referring to me - my German relatives did not kill any Jews.
They were honest and decent people who worked hard, they were not parasites, and I am very proud of my German ancestors.
I have already told that many times, but you desperately try to play the old and tired "Collective-Eternal-German-Guilt-Card", and hope that this will work.
In fact my German relatives were killed by Jewish Bolsheviks who killed millions and millions of Christians.
The Bolsheviks killed more innocent civilians than any other totalitarian regimes in the 20th century, but who cares about the feeling of Christians?
Marxism is still "kosher", you can call yourself a proud Marxist, you can be violent and be proud of the mass murders, committed by Bolsheviks against Christians, this is not outlawed.
I do not know for sure if these Jewish Bolsheviks, who killed my German relatives, were your relatives, and I will never play the "Jewish-Bolshevik-Guilt-Card", because I do not believe in collective responsibility.
Everybody should be responsible and ashamed only for his own actions.
I am not interested in what your Jewish relatives did, you are not responsible for that, I only care about what you yourself do in this forum.
You seem to support the crimes of Zionists, you seem to think that Nakba was not bad for the cause of Zionism, and you should be ashamed of what you personally do.
Anyway, you are a hypocrite when you say that you don't believe in collective responsibility, especially from a long time ago. Just this week, a Muslim attacked a nightclub in Turkey because "they were celebrating a pagan Christian holiday", and a few weeks before that a Muslim truck rammed into Christmas shoppers in your Fatherland, the accursed Germany. Yet you love Muslims because many centuries ago they wrote that Jesus was a prophet in the Quran. Yet we Jews, who get along famously with Christians these days, are blamed collectively by you yourself because my ancestors supposedly killed your god, or because of some obscure references to him in the Talmud.
Is it "foreveryoung" or foreverstupid"
In 1949 Harry S Truman threw 1.5 million Muslims under the bus when he made them foreigners in their own land - he gave Palestine to the Zionists.
Since 1949 the US has given Israel 125 BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBillion dollars which have been used to conduct the Palestinian genocide.
From 1925 to 1949 Menachem Begin and the Irgun Terrorist Zionist gang terrorized the Palestinians and the British,
Let's talk about that for a while.
.
Once again you have interrupted a conversation that I was having with German Art. You don't know what he said many times in this forum about Jews. He has said, for instance, that he likes Muslims because Jesus is a prophet in Islam, whereas some rude things were said about Jesus in the Talmud. (BTW Yeshu, the Hebrew form of that name, was popular in Talmudic times, and so the Talmud could've been referring to different Yeshus.) I am trying to make him understand who is the true enemy of Christendom in this day and age. As for your points, I also don't approve of the money that Israel takes from America, but what can I do about it as a regular citizen?
I wasn't even talking to you Newbie. I was talking to Art whose German relatives killed my relatives.
If you are referring to me - my German relatives did not kill any Jews.
They were honest and decent people who worked hard, they were not parasites, and I am very proud of my German ancestors.
I have already told that many times, but you desperately try to play the old and tired "Collective-Eternal-German-Guilt-Card", and hope that this will work.
In fact my German relatives were killed by Jewish Bolsheviks who killed millions and millions of Christians.
The Bolsheviks killed more innocent civilians than any other totalitarian regimes in the 20th century, but who cares about the feeling of Christians?
Marxism is still "kosher", you can call yourself a proud Marxist, you can be violent and be proud of the mass murders, committed by Bolsheviks against Christians, this is not outlawed.
I do not know for sure if these Jewish Bolsheviks, who killed my German relatives, were your relatives, and I will never play the "Jewish-Bolshevik-Guilt-Card", because I do not believe in collective responsibility.
Everybody should be responsible and ashamed only for his own actions.
I am not interested in what your Jewish relatives did, you are not responsible for that, I only care about what you yourself do in this forum.
You seem to support the crimes of Zionists, you seem to think that Nakba was not bad for the cause of Zionism, and you should be ashamed of what you personally do.
Anyway, you are a hypocrite when you say that you don't believe in collective responsibility, especially from a long time ago. Just this week, a Muslim attacked a nightclub in Turkey because "they were celebrating a pagan Christian holiday", and a few weeks before that a Muslim truck rammed into Christmas shoppers in your Fatherland, the accursed Germany. Yet you love Muslims because many centuries ago they wrote that Jesus was a prophet in the Quran. Yet we Jews, who get along famously with Christians these days, are blamed collectively by you yourself because my ancestors supposedly killed your god, or because of some obscure references to him in the Talmud.
Is it "foreveryoung" or foreverstupid"
In 1949 Harry S Truman threw 1.5 million Muslims under the bus when he made them foreigners in their own land - he gave Palestine to the Zionists.
Since 1949 the US has given Israel 125 BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBillion dollars which have been used to conduct the Palestinian genocide.
From 1925 to 1949 Menachem Begin and the Irgun Terrorist Zionist gang terrorized the Palestinians and the British,
Let's talk about that for a while.
.
Once again you have interrupted a conversation that I was having with German Art. You don't know what he said many times in this forum about Jews. He has said, for instance, that he likes Muslims because Jesus is a prophet in Islam, whereas some rude things were said about Jesus in the Talmud. (BTW Yeshu, the Hebrew form of that name, was popular in Talmudic times, and so the Talmud could've been referring to different Yeshus.) I am trying to make him understand who is the true enemy of Christendom in this day and age. As for your points, I also don't approve of the money that Israel takes from America, but what can I do about it as a regular citizen?
Also, there has never been a Palestinian "genocide". They have multiplied many times over.
