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New Benghazi E-mails Link White House to Doctoring of Talking Points

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Dogstyle, the lovely thing about "Conspiracy Theorists" is that no matter how many time we prove to you it's a weather balloon, you still insist it's a flying saucer.

So what do these E-mail prove? That the CIA really thought the cause was the movie, and the White House repeated that.

Oh my God, the WHite House Agreed with the CIA! What a scandal!

Actually the CIA Chief testified under oath before Congress that they didn't say anything about a video, because they didn't know what caused it, and that they were surprised that Susan Rice used that talking point, because it didn't come from them.

What happened today, April 2

Former CIA acting director Michael Morell testified before the House Intelligence Committee today, denying allegations of a cover-up related to the 2012 Benghazi attacks or that anyone one in the Obama administration deliberately misled Congress on what happened in Benghazi. Morell admitted it took analysts four days after Libyan authorities told them there were no protests on video in their possession to analyze it, something that he said came up in the CIA's review of its process. Morell also told committee members it wasn't possible to say exactly what motivated the Benghazi attackers, because none of them were caught.

Morell explained that he wasn't convinced by the chief of station's account largely because the station chief's account began only when he got there, after the attacks had started, and that it was also based on press reports. Other press reports, Morell pointed out, did mention protests.

Asked about Sunday talk show interviews with Susan Rice, then the national security advisor, in the aftermath of the Benghazi attacks, Morell said they largely followed the talking points the intelligence community agreed on, but did not agree with her linking of spontaneous protests to the YouTube clip of Innocence of Muslims. That clip was blamed for protests in Libya and in other countries.

Ex-CIA Chief Testifies on Benghazi: Don?t Know the Motivation Because Attackers Haven?t Been Caught Yet - Reason 24/7 : Reason.com



Mike Morell didn't throw anyone under the bus, but it said that he didn't agree with the White House's version of events on the ground. It's a perfect example of double-speak.

Joe, you are a terrible spokesperson for the Obama Administration. If they're paying you they need to get their money back.

Guy, you cherry pick one line, while ignoring that Morell shot down Issa's usual batch of conspiracy theories.

there were protests in Libya. there were protests in other countries. And one of them escalated inot a riot, or perhaps Al Qaeda took advantage of a riot to launch an attack.

But of course, the people like you, who have no problem iwht THOUSANDS of people dying over a lie about WMD's, are going to insist that not being sure of what caused this riot is the biggest scandal, ever.

It's what happens when you spend your whole life hating, i guess.
Keep up the stupidity, then left weirdos like you are nothing but retards, live with it. Hussein proved he had wmd's, even pervert bill and all the dimwits said he did before W got in office. IDIOT!
 
I guess obamashitforbrains giving millions of our tax dollars to al queda to buy weapons to use against us and killing four Americans is all right with you idiot lefties. Obamashitforbrains and the left lied about Benghazi, period.
 
Dogstyle, the lovely thing about "Conspiracy Theorists" is that no matter how many time we prove to you it's a weather balloon, you still insist it's a flying saucer.

So what do these E-mail prove? That the CIA really thought the cause was the movie, and the White House repeated that.

Oh my God, the WHite House Agreed with the CIA! What a scandal!

Actually the CIA Chief testified under oath before Congress that they didn't say anything about a video, because they didn't know what caused it, and that they were surprised that Susan Rice used that talking point, because it didn't come from them.

What happened today, April 2

Former CIA acting director Michael Morell testified before the House Intelligence Committee today, denying allegations of a cover-up related to the 2012 Benghazi attacks or that anyone one in the Obama administration deliberately misled Congress on what happened in Benghazi. Morell admitted it took analysts four days after Libyan authorities told them there were no protests on video in their possession to analyze it, something that he said came up in the CIA's review of its process. Morell also told committee members it wasn't possible to say exactly what motivated the Benghazi attackers, because none of them were caught.

Morell explained that he wasn't convinced by the chief of station's account largely because the station chief's account began only when he got there, after the attacks had started, and that it was also based on press reports. Other press reports, Morell pointed out, did mention protests.

Asked about Sunday talk show interviews with Susan Rice, then the national security advisor, in the aftermath of the Benghazi attacks, Morell said they largely followed the talking points the intelligence community agreed on, but did not agree with her linking of spontaneous protests to the YouTube clip of Innocence of Muslims. That clip was blamed for protests in Libya and in other countries.

Ex-CIA Chief Testifies on Benghazi: Don?t Know the Motivation Because Attackers Haven?t Been Caught Yet - Reason 24/7 : Reason.com



Mike Morell didn't throw anyone under the bus, but it said that he didn't agree with the White House's version of events on the ground. It's a perfect example of double-speak.

Joe, you are a terrible spokesperson for the Obama Administration. If they're paying you they need to get their money back.

Guy, you cherry pick one line, while ignoring that Morell shot down Issa's usual batch of conspiracy theories.

there were protests in Libya. there were protests in other countries. And one of them escalated inot a riot, or perhaps Al Qaeda took advantage of a riot to launch an attack.

But of course, the people like you, who have no problem iwht THOUSANDS of people dying over a lie about WMD's, are going to insist that not being sure of what caused this riot is the biggest scandal, ever.

It's what happens when you spend your whole life hating, i guess.

There were no protests at the consulate. None. Zip. Nada.
 
Yeah nothing to see here, folks.
Except we know the White House coached her to repeat the line they had concocted: that a video was responsible for a riot. They concocted it because the truth--it was a terrorist attack on a poorly defended position--might cost Obama the election.
Yes, we know this. Yes, it's proven. Yes, it's criminal. Yes, people desperately want to dismiss it in one way or another but they can't. Because it's the truth.

No scandal on the scale of Nixon. However the lesson about the negative consequences of our interventionist policy is largely ignored.

:lol:

If that were true every presidential press secretary for um, ever, would be in jail.

Anyway, she's smart and a practiced politician, I'm sure it only took a few minutes to go over the Talking Points, it not like they are a new concept. Not like the GOP candidate from 2008. Now that was a candidate that was in need of a lot of coaching.

You're right. It's worse than Nixon. Nixon didnt lie about a foreign policy disaster to help his re-election. He covered up for loyal staffers.
Again, "they all do it" is a fail. They do not all do it. Only Barack Obama has lied intentionally to boost his re-election chances.
Who knows how long it took to coach Rice in the official lies? What does it matter? She was told to lie. That shouldn't happen.

Your ignorance of Watergate is astounding, either that or it's willful lying.
 
It will be interesting to see, Willie. For someone to call themselves a "journalist" and then look the other way when an Administration so blatantly lies makes them nothing more than a politician's "bitch". Some of them don't seem to have a problem with that role...for others...such as Karl from ABC...it's apparent that they DO have some journalistic integrity left.

Dogstyle, the lovely thing about "Conspiracy Theorists" is that no matter how many time we prove to you it's a weather balloon, you still insist it's a flying saucer.

So what do these E-mail prove? That the CIA really thought the cause was the movie, and the White House repeated that.

Oh my God, the WHite House Agreed with the CIA! What a scandal!

Good to see that your comprehension skills are still as bad as ever, Joe! Or have you failed to READ the email in question? I'm guessing the latter because not even someone as clueless as you are would see that as proof the CIA thought the attacks were caused by the YouTube video!

What the email proves is that it was the White House that was the source of the YouTube video narrative despite the CIA telling them that it was an attack by Al Queda affiliated terrorists. The "scandal" is that the Obama White House deliberately lied to the families of those slain men because it was six weeks before the election and they didn't want to look bad. Barack Obama lied. Hilary Clinton lied. Jay Carney lied. Joe Biden lied. Susan Rice lied. It was a coordinated effort to deceive the American people...followed up by a coordinated effort to hide that deception from Congressional investigators.
 
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Cherry picked? Surely you jest. For any cherry picking that has been done, it is by you. The link above,
III.*Defense Department officials believed nearly from the outset of violence in Benghazi that it was a terrorist attack rather than a protest gone awry, and the President subsequently permitted the military to respond with minimal direction.


Dogstyle, the lovely thing about "Conspiracy Theorists" is that no matter how many time we prove to you it's a weather balloon, you still insist it's a flying saucer.

So what do these E-mail prove? That the CIA really thought the cause was the movie, and the White House repeated that.

Oh my God, the WHite House Agreed with the CIA! What a scandal!

Actually the CIA Chief testified under oath before Congress that they didn't say anything about a video, because they didn't know what caused it, and that they were surprised that Susan Rice used that talking point, because it didn't come from them.

What happened today, April 2

Former CIA acting director Michael Morell testified before the House Intelligence Committee today, denying allegations of a cover-up related to the 2012 Benghazi attacks or that anyone one in the Obama administration deliberately misled Congress on what happened in Benghazi. Morell admitted it took analysts four days after Libyan authorities told them there were no protests on video in their possession to analyze it, something that he said came up in the CIA's review of its process. Morell also told committee members it wasn't possible to say exactly what motivated the Benghazi attackers, because none of them were caught.

Morell explained that he wasn't convinced by the chief of station's account largely because the station chief's account began only when he got there, after the attacks had started, and that it was also based on press reports. Other press reports, Morell pointed out, did mention protests.

Asked about Sunday talk show interviews with Susan Rice, then the national security advisor, in the aftermath of the Benghazi attacks, Morell said they largely followed the talking points the intelligence community agreed on, but did not agree with her linking of spontaneous protests to the YouTube clip of Innocence of Muslims. That clip was blamed for protests in Libya and in other countries.

Ex-CIA Chief Testifies on Benghazi: Don?t Know the Motivation Because Attackers Haven?t Been Caught Yet - Reason 24/7 : Reason.com



Mike Morell didn't throw anyone under the bus, but it said that he didn't agree with the White House's version of events on the ground. It's a perfect example of double-speak.

Joe, you are a terrible spokesperson for the Obama Administration. If they're paying you they need to get their money back.

Guy, you cherry pick one line, while ignoring that Morell shot down Issa's usual batch of conspiracy theories.

there were protests in Libya. there were protests in other countries. And one of them escalated inot a riot, or perhaps Al Qaeda took advantage of a riot to launch an attack.

But of course, the people like you, who have no problem iwht THOUSANDS of people dying over a lie about WMD's, are going to insist that not being sure of what caused this riot is the biggest scandal, ever.

It's what happens when you spend your whole life hating, i guess.
 
No scandal on the scale of Nixon. However the lesson about the negative consequences of our interventionist policy is largely ignored.

:lol:

If that were true every presidential press secretary for um, ever, would be in jail.

Anyway, she's smart and a practiced politician, I'm sure it only took a few minutes to go over the Talking Points, it not like they are a new concept. Not like the GOP candidate from 2008. Now that was a candidate that was in need of a lot of coaching.

You're right. It's worse than Nixon. Nixon didnt lie about a foreign policy disaster to help his re-election. He covered up for loyal staffers.
Again, "they all do it" is a fail. They do not all do it. Only Barack Obama has lied intentionally to boost his re-election chances.
Who knows how long it took to coach Rice in the official lies? What does it matter? She was told to lie. That shouldn't happen.

Your ignorance of Watergate is astounding, either that or it's willful lying.

No, I actually lived through it so remember it pretty well.
Your distortions and deflections are astounding. You must be getting unhinged as the truth comes out.
 
And what's really telling is that they've chosen to continue to pile lie upon lie in an attempt to brazen their way out of being exposed as liars.

This Administration thinks the American people are stupid enough to buy this latest story that Rice's briefing and talking points were never about Benghazi...but were about general unrest around the globe. Why would an email about THAT be classified and hidden from Congressional investigators until it was forced to be released by a freedom of information law suit? The answer to that question is obvious...the Obama White House KNOWS that it proves that they lied and did so deliberately.
 
You're right. It's worse than Nixon. Nixon didnt lie about a foreign policy disaster to help his re-election. He covered up for loyal staffers.
Again, "they all do it" is a fail. They do not all do it. Only Barack Obama has lied intentionally to boost his re-election chances.
Who knows how long it took to coach Rice in the official lies? What does it matter? She was told to lie. That shouldn't happen.

Your ignorance of Watergate is astounding, either that or it's willful lying.

No, I actually lived through it so remember it pretty well.
Your distortions and deflections are astounding. You must be getting unhinged as the truth comes out.

Sure you do. 72 was an election year. The botched burglary was actually the second one and it was all about the upcoming elections. The plumbers were connected to the Presidents re-election campaign.

I think ya'll righties are getting pretty desperate. You've gone from Obama watched a 7 hour battle in real time and gave stand down orders, to their Talking Points were not 100% accurate, so they were lying to get re-elected.

Funny stuff
 
And what's really telling is that they've chosen to continue to pile lie upon lie in an attempt to brazen their way out of being exposed as liars.

This Administration thinks the American people are stupid enough to buy this latest story that Rice's briefing and talking points were never about Benghazi...but were about general unrest around the globe. Why would an email about THAT be classified and hidden from Congressional investigators until it was forced to be released by a freedom of information law suit? The answer to that question is obvious...the Obama White House KNOWS that it proves that they lied and did so deliberately.

Not only is 47% (at least) of this country that stupid, at least that much are totally uninformed. Not that it would make difference with the left brainwashed assholes, but it may help if the country had a press that were not so committed to protect their beloved president.

There is hardly anything being reported by the usual suspects. One network is testing currents in the Indian Ocean and still listening for pings and the other is trying to link the democrat Sterling to republicans while they still blame Bundy for not paying taxes while they employ a person who owes more in taxes.
 
And what's really telling is that they've chosen to continue to pile lie upon lie in an attempt to brazen their way out of being exposed as liars.

This Administration thinks the American people are stupid enough to buy this latest story that Rice's briefing and talking points were never about Benghazi...but were about general unrest around the globe. Why would an email about THAT be classified and hidden from Congressional investigators until it was forced to be released by a freedom of information law suit? The answer to that question is obvious...the Obama White House KNOWS that it proves that they lied and did so deliberately.

Uh..... Dewd....?

They are
 
WH Tries Jedi Mind Trick to Explain Smoking Gun Benghazi Email

“It [the smoking gun email] was explicitly not about Benghazi. It was about the overall situation in the region, the Muslim world, where you saw protests across embassy facilities across the region.”

It was the political version of "These are not the droids you are looking for."
ABC News' Jonathan Karl went after White House Press Secretary Jay Carney Wednesday about the Benghazi emails indicating a political basis for the Administration's response that were released by Judicial Watch the day before.
Despite the text of the email, Carney tried to get away with saying the letter was not about Benghazi, saying,“It was explicitly not about Benghazi. It was about the overall situation in the region, the Muslim world, where you saw protests across embassy facilities across the region.”
Karl aggressively questioned Carney about the week leading up to Susan Rice's post Benghazi appearance on the Sunday news shows where she blamed the attack on an anti-Muslim You Tube video. Carney tried to respond with snark:
Karl: You just had an attack on a — (inaudible) — consulate in Benghazi. You had Americans killed. You knew full well that what Susan Rice was primarily going to be asked about was about that attack — a terrorist attack on a U.S. consulate in Benghazi.
Carney: Can I read the promo from your show, ABC “This Week”?
Karl: You do acknowledge that these — (inaudible) — was going to be about the Benghazi attack?
Carney: Absolutely, about — Jon, absolutely. And she — and that’s why, as members of Congress did, Ambassador Rice relied on points about the Benghazi attack that were produced by the CIA.
Karl: So –
Carney: When — hold on. As American embassies throughout the region remain under fire — that’s ABC “This Week” promo. Again, we prepare Q-and-As for administration officials based on what we think they’re going to be asked. When I come out here –
The back and forth continued until Karl segued into the possible White House lies.
Karl: Ambassador Rice went on those shows, and she said that the attack in Benghazi was rooted in protests over an Internet video. We now know that that was not true, that, in fact, the CIA Director, Morell, just — former Director Morell just testified last month that quote, “when she talked about the video, my reaction was, that’s not something the analysts have attributed this attack to. It did not come from the CIA. You stood there at the podium time after time and said that she was referring to talking points created by the CIA. Now we see a document that comes from the White House, not from the CIA, attributing the protests to the video, and we have the former director of the CIA saying that that was not something that his analysts had attributed it to.
Carney: Jon, I would point you to what Mike Morell has said repeatedly in testimony about the creation of the talking points.
Karl: Well, now we have new talking points, and you didn’t release them — (inaudible) –
Carney: Let me finish, please. Jon, I answered that question. The fact of the matter is, there were protests in the region. The talking points cited protests at that facility. The connection between protests and video — and the video turned out not to be the case, but it was based on the best information that we had, and the fact that there were protests –
Karl: It was not based on what the CIA was saying, Jay.
Carney: Jon, I would point you to — I understand the –
Karl: This is what Morell said just last month, that when he heard that, he said that is not something our analysts have said. So that, now we see, came from the White House, right?
Carney: Jon — no, you’re wrong. If you look at that document, that document that we’re talking about today was about the overall environment in the Muslim world — the protests outside of Khartoum — the embassy in Khartoum, outside of the embassy in Tunis, the protests outside of the embassy in Cairo. These were big stories.
The memo Karl and Carney were discussing set the goals for Susan Rice's appearance on the Sunday programs. These goals seem to disagree with what Carney says about the memo.
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Carney: I know that you and I are both in a different time zone right now, but we’re still in April of 2014, and this is a discussion about what she said and what turned out to be the case that we have had dozens of time in this room. And the fact of the matter is she went out there with the best information that we had at the time. The CIA deputy director has testified to that. The fact that there were protests around the region threatening our embassies at the very same time is something that is often forgotten but obviously affected the whole environment about how we perceived what was happening at the time. And again, the implication is that we were somehow holding back information, when in fact we were simply saying what we thought was right. And when elements of that turned out not to be true, we were the first people to say so. It was based on what we knew at the time.
Karl: Why were you holding back this information? Why was this email not turned over to the Congress? Why was it not released when you released all the other emails? This is directly relevant. Why did you hold this back? Why did it take a court case for you to release this — (inaudible) –
Carney: Jon, I can say it again and again, and I know you can keep asking again and again. This document was not about Benghazi.

WH Tries Jedi Mind Trick to Explain Smoking Gun Benghazi Email | Truth Revolt
 
Your ignorance of Watergate is astounding, either that or it's willful lying.

No, I actually lived through it so remember it pretty well.
Your distortions and deflections are astounding. You must be getting unhinged as the truth comes out.

Sure you do. 72 was an election year. The botched burglary was actually the second one and it was all about the upcoming elections. The plumbers were connected to the Presidents re-election campaign.

I think ya'll righties are getting pretty desperate. You've gone from Obama watched a 7 hour battle in real time and gave stand down orders, to their Talking Points were not 100% accurate, so they were lying to get re-elected.

Funny stuff

What's "funny" is watching you attempt to defend the indefensible. Susan Rice was sent out to those 5 Sunday morning talk shows to tell the American people lies about what happened in Benghazi and that email proves it.
 
And the fact that email was classified by the Obama Administration proves that they KNEW it proves it.
 
A very bad video no one ever saw. Well, except for the Dear Leader and his lackeys. Just another sad farce. And where did the Terrorists get the weapons they used to murder our Ambassador? That should be investigated. It would prove to be the most disturbing aspect of this travesty. But it doesn't look either Party has the guts to investigate that.
 
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No, I actually lived through it so remember it pretty well.
Your distortions and deflections are astounding. You must be getting unhinged as the truth comes out.

Sure you do. 72 was an election year. The botched burglary was actually the second one and it was all about the upcoming elections. The plumbers were connected to the Presidents re-election campaign.

I think ya'll righties are getting pretty desperate. You've gone from Obama watched a 7 hour battle in real time and gave stand down orders, to their Talking Points were not 100% accurate, so they were lying to get re-elected.

Funny stuff

What's "funny" is watching you attempt to defend the indefensible. Susan Rice was sent out to those 5 Sunday morning talk shows to tell the American people lies about what happened in Benghazi and that email proves it.

Yet, ya still got nothing.

Jonathan Karl vs. Jay Carney: The umpteenth guide to the impenetrable Benghazi outrage.

Here, in the emails released 11 months ago, is a version of the talking points released by the CIA, to the House Intelligence committee and others, around six hours before Ben Rhodes' email.

................................

The CIA was furthering the talking point that "the attacks in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo," etc. A later revision added that the agency had warned about social media organizing around a protest. What was the fresh chatter about? The "Innocence of Muslims" video.

Are you lost yet? OK—the entire argument is about Rhodes mentioning, hours after the CIA had suggested the Benghazi attack grew out of demonstrations in several countries, that the immediate inspiration for the demonstrations was a video. That's the scandal—that by giving the video all this credit, the administration was distracting people from the real story that terrorism was surging again. Even though the subsequent 19 months have seen no more attacks on embassies. Even though reporting at the time said the excuse for the protests was said video.
 
A very bad video no one ever saw. Well, except for the Dear Leader and his lackeys. Just another sad farce. And where did the Terrorists get the weapons they used to murder our Ambassador? That should be investigated. It would prove to be the most disturbing aspect of this travesty. But it doesn't look either Party has the guts to investigate that.

You know very well that ignorant people will not do any research at all and believe what they are told.

I hear it happens in Muslim countries too!!!!!

:eek::eek:
 
A very bad video no one ever saw. Well, except for the Dear Leader and his lackeys. Just another sad farce. And where did the Terrorists get the weapons they used to murder our Ambassador? That should be investigated. It would prove to be the most disturbing aspect of this travesty. But it doesn't look either Party has the guts to investigate that.

You know very well that ignorant people will not do any research at all and believe what they are told.

I hear it happens in Muslim countries too!!!!!

:eek::eek:

Yeah, why are you guys like that???? :eusa_whistle:
 
WH Tries Jedi Mind Trick to Explain Smoking Gun Benghazi Email

“It [the smoking gun email] was explicitly not about Benghazi. It was about the overall situation in the region, the Muslim world, where you saw protests across embassy facilities across the region.”

It was the political version of "These are not the droids you are looking for."

Actually the genesis of Carney's remarks goes back further than a trivial American movie.

Adolf Hitler's propaganda minister used to say that if you tell a big enough lie, often enough, it would become "The Truth", and people would believe it.

That's all Carney is doing here.
 
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