New Documents Show Obama Involved In The Flynn Scandal

You're clueless, Jack! The Clinton Campaign and the DNC got exactly what they paid for...a smear campaign right before the election to make Trump look bad!
Have you considered how ridiculous it would have been for the Clinton campaign to wait until a week before the election before revealing the contents of the dossier if their motive was to use it as a smear campaign?
Have you considered how ridiculous it would have been for the FBI to keep their investigation in to the Trump campaign a secret from the public if their intent was to sabotage his candidacy as Trump has accused them of doing?
 
Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt. :)
the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !

The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.

The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.

President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.

Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.

The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)

It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.

No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.
You're clueless, Jack! The Clinton Campaign and the DNC got exactly what they paid for...a smear campaign right before the election to make Trump look bad! Glenn Simpson and Richard Steele finally talked someone at Mother Jones to go with the story a week before the election and other liberal media outlets reported on the Mother Jones story.

It WAS the basis for the FISA warrants! Without the Steele "fiction" that FISA Court judge would never have issued the wiretap orders! As for Clinton's margin of victory? Imagine how much she would have lost by if her people hadn't run the sleazy campaign that they did!
That’s it? That’s the whole smear campaign? A single story at Mother Jones?
 
Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt. :)
the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !

The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.

The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.

President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.

Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.

The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)

It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.

No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.



You're lying again.

The former dossier had not a single thing to do with the one Hillary bought and the Deep State used.



  • The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.” What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'

Get lost Russian troll. Your BS is easily dismissed. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants. Well, there goes that conspiracy theory.


To appear as though you were an adult, first and foremost.....drop any reference to Putin and Russia.



That plot was exploded by the Mueller fiasco.

If there was any doubt who Putin favored as President….the dossier was a Russian attempt to sink the Trump campaign.



Second.....you, being as ignorant as you are, don't realize that the Democrat Party is the one that supported, shielded, and took orders from the Soviets for 70 years, and Obama made a quid pro quo with Putin.....here:









Third,....the Democrat Party today stands for all of the aims of the Communist Party.



Succinctly put.....rules #1 and #2

Rule #1
Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.
2a. If not for double standards Liberals would have no standards at all.





Now….vat about moose and skwerril????


Again, your BS is easily dismissed. You really need to come up with some new material. Cutting and pasting the same baloney in different threads isn't very creative. It's one of the things that gives you away. I could say the same things about your rules for Republicans and Conservatives. And I have almost four decades of policy failures on that side of the aisle to point to. Mueller (a lifelong Republican) was appointed by Jeff Session's backup (after said AG smartly realized that he could end up going down for Trump)...also a Trump appointee I believe. Everything that followed was Trump's doing. He's his own worst enemy. If not for Mitch McConnell and a handful of true believers in the Senate, he'd be gone. Again, the dossier was started as opposition research and was not the basis for the FISA warrants...no matter how much shit the right throws at the wall.


You're an uniformed lying piece of shit kid.

"On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request."

"Decision to Seek FISA Authority We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team's receipt of Steele's election reporting on September 19, 2016 played a central and essential role in the FBI's and Department's decision to seek the FISA order. As noted above, when the team first sought to pursue a FISA order for Page in August 2016, a decision was made by OGC, or, or both that more information was needed to support a probable cause finding that Page was an agent of a foreign power. As a result, FBI OGC ceased discussions with or about a Page FISA order at that time. On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request. Two days later, on September 21, the FBI OGC Unit Chief contacted the NSD or Unit Chief to advise him that the FBI believed it was ready to submit a forma l FISA request to or relating to Page. Almost immediately thereafter, or assigned an attorney (or Attorney) to begin preparation of the application. "

 
Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt. :)
the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !

The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.

The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.

President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.

Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.

The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)

It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.

No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.



You're lying again.

The former dossier had not a single thing to do with the one Hillary bought and the Deep State used.



  • The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.” What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'

Get lost Russian troll. Your BS is easily dismissed. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants. Well, there goes that conspiracy theory.


To appear as though you were an adult, first and foremost.....drop any reference to Putin and Russia.



That plot was exploded by the Mueller fiasco.

If there was any doubt who Putin favored as President….the dossier was a Russian attempt to sink the Trump campaign.



Second.....you, being as ignorant as you are, don't realize that the Democrat Party is the one that supported, shielded, and took orders from the Soviets for 70 years, and Obama made a quid pro quo with Putin.....here:









Third,....the Democrat Party today stands for all of the aims of the Communist Party.



Succinctly put.....rules #1 and #2

Rule #1
Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.
2a. If not for double standards Liberals would have no standards at all.





Now….vat about moose and skwerril????


Again, your BS is easily dismissed. You really need to come up with some new material. Cutting and pasting the same baloney in different threads isn't very creative. It's one of the things that gives you away. I could say the same things about your rules for Republicans and Conservatives. And I have almost four decades of policy failures on that side of the aisle to point to. Mueller (a lifelong Republican) was appointed by Jeff Session's backup (after said AG smartly realized that he could end up going down for Trump)...also a Trump appointee I believe. Everything that followed was Trump's doing. He's his own worst enemy. If not for Mitch McConnell and a handful of true believers in the Senate, he'd be gone. Again, the dossier was started as opposition research and was not the basis for the FISA warrants...no matter how much shit the right throws at the wall.


You're an uniformed lying piece of shit kid.

"On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request."

"Decision to Seek FISA Authority We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team's receipt of Steele's election reporting on September 19, 2016 played a central and essential role in the FBI's and Department's decision to seek the FISA order. As noted above, when the team first sought to pursue a FISA order for Page in August 2016, a decision was made by OGC, or, or both that more information was needed to support a probable cause finding that Page was an agent of a foreign power. As a result, FBI OGC ceased discussions with or about a Page FISA order at that time. On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request. Two days later, on September 21, the FBI OGC Unit Chief contacted the NSD or Unit Chief to advise him that the FBI believed it was ready to submit a forma l FISA request to or relating to Page. Almost immediately thereafter, or assigned an attorney (or Attorney) to begin preparation of the application. "


What is the point of continuing to circulate lies about the dossier, the origins of Crossfire Hurricane, and the justification for the FISA warrants?

 
There would never have been any FISA warrant sans the dossier.

Really???

Page was the subject of FISA warrant in 2014. 2017 news accounts about the warrant indicated it was granted because of Page's ties to Russian government officials, and their numerous attempts by the Russians to to recruit him. Page listed himself as an "informal advisor to the Kremlin".

This idea that without the Dossier there would have been no FISA warrant is Devon Nunes' bullshit and lies. He used his role as head of the Intel Committee to deflect and undermine the Russia Investigation at every turn.

 
Both Carter Page and Paul Manafort had been under surveillance by the FBI for years because of their involvement with Russian and Ukrainian interests, and their connections to the Kremlin, and suddenly, miraculously, both men "volunteered" to work for the Trump Campaign.

But the FBI shouldn't investigate or be suspicious about this at all. Nor should they worry that one of Trump's "top foreign policy advisors" is bragging in a London bar that the Russians have Hillary's emails. Or the more than 200 contacts between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. They shouldn't look into this at all.

No, no, nothing to see here, just move along.
 
There would never have been any FISA warrant sans the dossier.

Really???

Page was the subject of FISA warrant in 2014. 2017 news accounts about the warrant indicated it was granted because of Page's ties to Russian government officials, and their numerous attempts by the Russians to to recruit him. Page listed himself as an "informal advisor to the Kremlin".

This idea that without the Dossier there would have been no FISA warrant is Devon Nunes' bullshit and lies. He used his role as head of the Intel Committee to deflect and undermine the Russia Investigation at every turn.




Time to obliterate you .......again???



This was the plan….and mighty successful it was.

First, pick a target. Trump had several unknowns who gravitated to his campaign and the one they picked was Carter Page. Page had some legit business with Russians, and the Deep State think tank needed to use that Russian connection, no matter how peripheral, to hand around Trump’s neck.

Two considerations: 1) Page was squeaky clean, and had even worked for one of the agencies providing info on Russia to our government, and 2) the need for the cover of a warrant.


Next… how easily both considerations were covered.

Now…how to cover up that Carter Page was actually an American asset?
The Deep Stated needed someone as the 'first hop'.....but.....Page actually worked with one of the intel agencies?


Guess what they did?
Simple: The Deep State lied, changed the report from ‘he was a source’ to ‘not a source.’



“Supervisory Special Agent 2," who swore to an affidavit for all three FISA renewals against Page in 2017, told Horowitz's investigators that on the third renewal he wanted "a definitive answer to whether Page had ever been a source for another U.S. government agency before he signed the final renewal application."

While in contact with what was reportedly the CIA's liaison, Clinesmith was reminded that back in August 2016, predating the first Page warrant application in October 2016, the other agency

An email from the other government agency's liaison was sent to Clinesmith, who then "altered the liaison's email by inserting the words 'not a source' into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was 'not a source' for the other agency" and sent it to "Supervisory Special Agent 2," Horowitz found.”
FBI lawyer under criminal investigation altered document to say Carter Page 'was not a source' for another agency


"altered the liaison's email by inserting the words 'not a source' into it




The one given the ‘short straw,’ currently the sacrificial lamb as the plot has become public knowledge, is Kevin Clinesmith.

Kevin E. Clinesmith is a lawyer and FBI agent who worked on the Hillary Clinton email scandal investigation, the Trump-Russia collusion hoax, and the Mueller team.
Kevin Clinesmith - Conservapedia

Clinesmith tossed under the bus to cover the complicity of the rest of the intel community, i.e., the Deep State.




Now….that “Three Hop Plot”?

A ‘Hop” is putting a tail, a tap, surveillance, hacking emails and phones of everyone the Deep State has targeted.

Once you get a court OK to ‘hop’ on individual, you expand it to everyone the person has contact with…hop #2, then the same procedure for those #2 deals with….hop #3. Guess who #3 is?




The Deep-Staters needed to first get inside the Trump administration, get to spy on every one associated with Trump…and they knew how to do it. The sighted in’ on a policy adviser to Trump, Carter Page and used the ‘Two Hop:’ once they target Page, they get to tap and surveil anyone he is in contact with. BUT….then they get to the ‘Three Hop’…” to inaugurate a “three-hop” rule exploiting computer-networked communications to look well beyond the first-order contacts of a central subject (under Patriot Act surveillance, a terror suspect). This was done via presidential order and came as an unwelcome surprise to the public when the practice was revealed, and initially dubbed “warrantless wiretapping,” in 2005.” Why Civil Libertarians Should Be Worried about the FISA Warrant on Carter Page




And don’t give the top guy a pass:

"Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe

There are new texts allegedly showing that the Obama White House, the CIA, the FBI, and top Democrats colluded at the outset of the Russia probe.

...coordination between former President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, and CIA Director John Brennan —which they say would “contradict” the Obama administration’s public stance about its hand in the process."

Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe

and

"Clapper: Obama Ordered The Intelligence Assessment That Resulted In Mueller Investigation"
Clapper: Obama Ordered The Intelligence Assessment That Resulted In Mueller Investigation





In short.....the difference between your post and truth is akin to the difference between a lightning bug and lightning.
 
With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
The scale and scope of their interference, and their decision to choose one ca
With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
The scale and scope of Russia's "sweeping and systematic" interference was unprecedented........and consistently downplayed by Trumpleton's for obvious reasons. Know what else was unprecedented, the enormous effort they put in to the interference in favor of a particular candidate.

"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion," Mueller wrote in the 448-page document, which lays out new details about a Kremlin-backed plot that compromised Democrats' computer networks and targeted state and local election offices. Mueller wrote that investigators also found evidence of repeated communications — but not "coordination" — between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and people claiming to have damaging information on Hillary Clinton.
Too bad Mueller the Senile couldn’t actually prove any of his OPINIONS on that. Facebook ads, of which the vast majority saw 2 of (If they even paid attention to the ads popping up) swayed the election? Hardly. Keep relying on that roll of toilet paper that Mueller didn’t even have a hand in.
He proved obstruction. How do we know? He said Trump can be indicted for obstruction when he leaves office.

Another fucking lie, ChiCom troll.

You're worthless, just fucking lies from Beijing.
This is so easy when you can just breeze through every opposing post, totally unchallenged. When the hate takes control, nothing can stop their losing.
The only breeze here is every statement of truth going right over your head. When one just regurgitates the media’s lies nothing stops your losing.
We'll, we will never know, because you aren't able to tell us what the lies are or even prove them. So, you are posting absolutely nothing that has any value to anyone. Why bother?
If I have to explain it, you’ll never understand it. Your cowardice and lack of argument are exposed.

BWK really and truly is a troll working for Communist China.
 
With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
The scale and scope of their interference, and their decision to choose one ca
With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
The scale and scope of Russia's "sweeping and systematic" interference was unprecedented........and consistently downplayed by Trumpleton's for obvious reasons. Know what else was unprecedented, the enormous effort they put in to the interference in favor of a particular candidate.

"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion," Mueller wrote in the 448-page document, which lays out new details about a Kremlin-backed plot that compromised Democrats' computer networks and targeted state and local election offices. Mueller wrote that investigators also found evidence of repeated communications — but not "coordination" — between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and people claiming to have damaging information on Hillary Clinton.
Too bad Mueller the Senile couldn’t actually prove any of his OPINIONS on that. Facebook ads, of which the vast majority saw 2 of (If they even paid attention to the ads popping up) swayed the election? Hardly. Keep relying on that roll of toilet paper that Mueller didn’t even have a hand in.
He proved obstruction. How do we know? He said Trump can be indicted for obstruction when he leaves office.

Another fucking lie, ChiCom troll.

You're worthless, just fucking lies from Beijing.
This is so easy when you can just breeze through every opposing post, totally unchallenged. When the hate takes control, nothing can stop their losing.
The only breeze here is every statement of truth going right over your head. When one just regurgitates the media’s lies nothing stops your losing.
We'll, we will never know, because you aren't able to tell us what the lies are or even prove them. So, you are posting absolutely nothing that has any value to anyone. Why bother?
If I have to explain it, you’ll never understand it. Your cowardice and lack of argument are exposed.

BWK really and truly is a troll working for Communist China.


...or, at least, against America.
 
Democrats didn’t include Russia materials in the impeachment but there is nothing to stop them from impeaching Trump again.

:lmao:

People are going to start going to jail - the real traitors. Oh, it will be peons, Clapper and Brennan won't be brought to justice, nor will Obama. Your coup is over - you failed.

On Friday, the Supreme Court ruled that the DOJ has to hand over the Grand Jury testimony to Congress right fucking now.
Barr has been stalling on this since the Mueller Report dropped.

The real issue of course was that Adam the lying Little Schitt finally had to turn over his testimony from the Soviet Star Chamber he held - and guess what? It exonerated the president - but the traitor fucks went forward with the coup attempt anyway - right in the middle of a pandemic.

You are rats caught in a trap.

{Former Obama administration defense official Evelyn Farkas testified under oath that she lied during an MSNBC interview when she claimed to have evidence of alleged collusion, a newly declassified congressional transcript of her testimony shows. Farkas testified before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on June 26, 2017, as part of the committee’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election between Donald Trump and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. }


Trumps Russia troubles aren’t over. I notice he couldn’t wait to call his handler to tell him he has succeeded in getting Flynn off. I guess Trump thinks he’ll be able to lift those sanctions now.

The Trump dossier that Obama bought from the Kremlin in order to tamper with the 2016 election is a fraud.

{We now know that the Steele Dossier is bogus. Inspector General Michael Horowitz drove the final stake through its heart. He found that the Dossier was compiled from hearsay and third-hand gossip from two low-level sources and that they denied the testimony attributed to them. The only “verified” information that Horowitz found was available from public sources. }


Thats not going to happen. Neither Pelosi nor McConnell will allow it to happen.

:lol:

It's cute that you think you can go on the offensive now that you're being pummled by the facts coming out.

I'm a cynic, I have ZERO faith in government and I know that our justice system is a fraud. BUT I have a small glimmer of hope that McCabe, Weissman, Strzok, and Page will face charges of treason.

Honestly, I think President Trump should pardon Barack Obama for the good of the country. Executing an ex-president for treason would rip this nation apart. Oh, no doubt Obama is guilty, but it would cause more problems than it would solve.[/quote][/QUOTE]
 
Both Carter Page and Paul Manafort had been under surveillance by the FBI for years because of their involvement with Russian and Ukrainian interests, and their connections to the Kremlin, and suddenly, miraculously, both men "volunteered" to work for the Trump Campaign.

But the FBI shouldn't investigate or be suspicious about this at all. Nor should they worry that one of Trump's "top foreign policy advisors" is bragging in a London bar that the Russians have Hillary's emails. Or the more than 200 contacts between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. They shouldn't look into this at all.

No, no, nothing to see here, just move along.

More lies

"or Andrew McCabe, and then Director James Comey. FBI leadership supported relying on Steele's reporting to seek a FISA order on Page after being advised of, and giving consideration to, concerns expressed by Stuart Evans, then NSD's Deputy Assistant Attorney General with oversight responsibility over OI, that Steele may have been hired by someone associated with

 
Am wondering why he pled guilty twice if he was innocence?


So Strzok would have his men stop raping his wife - you fucking traitor moron.

It was a coerced confession. They threatened his family - CREDIBLE threats.
With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
The scale and scope of their interference, and their decision to choose one ca
With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
The scale and scope of Russia's "sweeping and systematic" interference was unprecedented........and consistently downplayed by Trumpleton's for obvious reasons. Know what else was unprecedented, the enormous effort they put in to the interference in favor of a particular candidate.

"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion," Mueller wrote in the 448-page document, which lays out new details about a Kremlin-backed plot that compromised Democrats' computer networks and targeted state and local election offices. Mueller wrote that investigators also found evidence of repeated communications — but not "coordination" — between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and people claiming to have damaging information on Hillary Clinton.
Too bad Mueller the Senile couldn’t actually prove any of his OPINIONS on that. Facebook ads, of which the vast majority saw 2 of (If they even paid attention to the ads popping up) swayed the election? Hardly. Keep relying on that roll of toilet paper that Mueller didn’t even have a hand in.
He proved obstruction. How do we know? He said Trump can be indicted for obstruction when he leaves office.
Too bad he proved only that my dog has more intelligence than him and you combined. So why wasn’t that in your bullshit impeachment? Oh yeah, because it didn’t exist except in Mueller’s dementia.

Democrats didn’t include Russia materials in the impeachment but there is nothing to stop them from impeaching Trump again.

On Friday, the Supreme Court ruled that the DOJ has to hand over the Grand Jury testimony to Congress right fucking now.
Barr has been stalling on this since the Mueller Report dropped.

Trumps Russia troubles aren’t over. I notice he couldn’t wait to call his handler to tell him he has succeeded in getting Flynn off. I guess Trump thinks he’ll be able to lift those sanctions now.

Thats not going to happen. Neither Pelosi nor McConnell will allow it to happen.
You think the Democrats are going to try and impeach Trump again? Really, Dragon Lady? Did you not watch what happened with the last attempt? Let me be blunt. I don't think the American people will stand for more of the bullshit that Adam Schiff and his cronies put us through the last time.

The reality is she's scared - and rightfully so. The Marxist democrats are rats caught in a trap and it's slowly dawning on the mindless drones that they are in deep shit.

Oh, and Obama didn't JUST tamper with American elections, he tampered with Canadian elections too.

{
Kelly McParland: Now who's interfering in an election? And the Liberals don't seem at all concerned
Once again, as voters ponder how to mark their ballots, we’ve had it made clear that there’s one set of rules for other people, and another for Justin Trudeau
}


Obama thinks he is an emperor.
 
What ChiCom manure are you referring to? You just keep thrashing the hate. It will be your side's undoing. The constant drumbeat of the alt-right to see if any shit sticks to the wall? Trump's bagman dismissing charges against Flynn. The attempt to manufacture evidence to satisfy a right wing narrative in time for the election...all in the middle of one of the worst public health and economic crisis in our history. Yeah, glad to see people on the right have their priorities straight.

Our little BTK Killer is a troll paid by China to post CCP propaganda. That is however irrelevant to the fact that you traitors had a VERY bad week. We have admissions that Potentate Obamugabe was at the very least aware of the attempt to frame Ltg. Flynn and set his thug Sally Yates on him, using the KGB as she did. It even shocked Susan Rice, who isn't exactly "miss ethics," but even she found it a bridge too far.

And then there are the records from Adam the lying little Schitt's Soviet star chamber. So you fucking traitors had dozens of witnesses who outright exonerated the president, but went forward with your coup anyway? You fucking traitor pigs. And WHEN were you vile scum doing this? Right when your masters were unleashing the Wuhan virus on the world.

But you're caught now. Bad times are here for you traitor piles of shit.
 
Did the DOJ have all the justification it needed to question Flynn about his contacts with Kislyak?

Yes. It was within their jurisdiction to follow up on the Flynn-Kislyak conversation, along with Flynn’s false statements to Pence and Spicer. At a minimum the fact that the Russian government would know that Flynn had lied left him open to potential blackmail by a hostile foreign power............surely a realistic counterintelligence concern.

Was the FBI authorized to do this investigation even if the prior investigation in to whether Flynn was a Russian operative had been closed?

Yes. The standard for opening an assessment is quite low. It is explicitly less than “‘information or an allegation’ indicating the existence of ... [a]n activity constituting ... a threat to national security,” which is required to open a preliminary investigation (DIOG 6.5). Opening an assessment requires only that there be an “authorized purpose” and a “clearly defined objective” for the assessment. In particular, the DIOG makes clear that an assessment is appropriate when “there is reason to collect information or facts to determine whether there is ... a national security threat” (DIOG 5.1; emphasis added). And as part of an assessment, the FBI is allowed to conduct interviews, including of the possible subject or target (DIOG 18.5.6).

Billy the Bagman has made the horseshit argument that when the FBI—aware of extensive Russian interference in U.S. politics in order to benefit the Trump campaign—learned that the incoming national security adviser requested that Russia not respond to the sanctions that were imposed in response to that interference and then lied to other government officials about that, it could not even “collect information or facts to determine” whether this created a counterintelligence threat.

Is the use of prosecution of Flynn's son as leverage grounds for dismissal of the case?

No. Leaning on a potential defendant for cooperation using the criminal liability of family members as leverage is not unheard of. This does not mean the practice is beyond criticism—but the handling of Flynn’s case is not some kind of aberration, let alone the sort of conscience-shocking thing that might justify a dismissal.

And to the extent any nod-and-a-wink arrangement on Flynn Jr. would raise any kind of Giglio issue, it certainly does not with respect to Flynn, who was obviously aware of the predicament his son faced and any role of his plea in alleviating it. That issue would only arise, as the Covington email reflects, if Flynn’s testimony were used against someone else and any arrangement with respect to his son were not disclosed.

Flynn’s consulting group, with which his son was employed, engaged in practices that raised legal questions under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, exposing both father and son to potential criminal liability.

Are any of the documents found in Jensen's review of the case grounds for dismissal?

No. The way the documents suggest that FBI officials discussed the case and made adjustments to their plans is typical of criminal investigations, former federal prosecutors say, even if seeing these internal discussions put in writing isn’t as common.

More importantly, the documents don’t make the false statements Flynn pleaded guilty to — lying to the FBI about his conversations with then-Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak — any less false. Nor are they the kinds of documents that prosecutors were legally obligated to produce for Flynn’s lawyers.

Is Flynn's motion to withdraw his guilty plea defensible? Yes.

Is Flynn's motion to throw the case out due to prosecutorial malfeasance defensible?

No. Flynn’s new lawyer cites notes given to her by Jensen, which were presumably written by then-FBI counterintelligence chief Bill Priestap, as supposed smoking-gun evidence that the FBI was seeking to entrap Flynn in a lie. The trouble with that argument is that absolutely nothing forced Flynn not to tell the truth in that interview. And while FBI officials appear to have discussed the strategic purpose of the interview, there’s nothing whatsoever wrong with that.

www.lawfareblog.com

Flynn Redux: What Those FBI Documents Really Show
A lot of people seem to be expecting Michael Flynn's sudden vindication. They should take a deep breath.
www.lawfareblog.com
www.lawfareblog.com

talkingpointsmemo.com

Why The Latest Flynn Entrapment Claims Are As Bogus As The Last Ones
The pandemic has changed many things, but it has not changed Michael Flynn’s habit of overhyping claims of FBI entrapment...
talkingpointsmemo.com

www.lawfareblog.com

The Justice Department’s Faulty Arguments in the Flynn Case
Under the logic of the government’s motion to dismiss the charges against Michael Flynn, the FBI can’t investigate whether someone is a Russian agent unless it already has evidence that the person is a Russian agent.
www.lawfareblog.com
www.lawfareblog.com


Bullshit. The KGB had no basis to tap the phone of the incoming National Security Advisor - particularly not after their role in attempting to rig the election. AND we know potentate Obamugabe is up to his sleazy little neck in this. You won't be able to lie your way out of this.
 
Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt. :)
the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !

The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.

The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.

President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.

Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.

The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)

It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.

No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.



You're lying again.

The former dossier had not a single thing to do with the one Hillary bought and the Deep State used.



  • The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.” What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'

Get lost Russian troll. Your BS is easily dismissed. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants. Well, there goes that conspiracy theory.

She kicked your ass.

You have no facts, bad times are here for you traitor fucks.
 
Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt. :)
the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !

The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.

The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.

President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.

Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.

The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)

It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.

No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.



You're lying again.

The former dossier had not a single thing to do with the one Hillary bought and the Deep State used.



  • The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.” What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'

Using Townhall.com as a source? Extreme right wing bias, poor fact checking record.


Using scurrilous sources for your fake news arguments never works. Only gullible fools looking for validation of their wingnut ideas and lies believe them.


Fuck you.

You use CNN and the New York Times - both further left than Townhall is right. Both far less credible.
 
Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt. :)
the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !

The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.

The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.

President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.

Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.

The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)

It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.

No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.



You're lying again.

The former dossier had not a single thing to do with the one Hillary bought and the Deep State used.



  • The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.” What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'

Get lost Russian troll. Your BS is easily dismissed. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants. Well, there goes that conspiracy theory.


To appear as though you were an adult, first and foremost.....drop any reference to Putin and Russia.



That plot was exploded by the Mueller fiasco.

If there was any doubt who Putin favored as President….the dossier was a Russian attempt to sink the Trump campaign.



Second.....you, being as ignorant as you are, don't realize that the Democrat Party is the one that supported, shielded, and took orders from the Soviets for 70 years, and Obama made a quid pro quo with Putin.....here:









Third,....the Democrat Party today stands for all of the aims of the Communist Party.



Succinctly put.....rules #1 and #2

Rule #1
Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.
2a. If not for double standards Liberals would have no standards at all.





Now….vat about moose and skwerril????


Again, your BS is easily dismissed. You really need to come up with some new material. Cutting and pasting the same baloney in different threads isn't very creative. It's one of the things that gives you away. I could say the same things about your rules for Republicans and Conservatives. And I have almost four decades of policy failures on that side of the aisle to point to. Mueller (a lifelong Republican) was appointed by Jeff Session's backup (after said AG smartly realized that he could end up going down for Trump)...also a Trump appointee I believe. Everything that followed was Trump's doing. He's his own worst enemy. If not for Mitch McConnell and a handful of true believers in the Senate, he'd be gone. Again, the dossier was started as opposition research and was not the basis for the FISA warrants...no matter how much shit the right throws at the wall.


You're an uniformed lying piece of shit kid.

"On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request."

"Decision to Seek FISA Authority We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team's receipt of Steele's election reporting on September 19, 2016 played a central and essential role in the FBI's and Department's decision to seek the FISA order. As noted above, when the team first sought to pursue a FISA order for Page in August 2016, a decision was made by OGC, or, or both that more information was needed to support a probable cause finding that Page was an agent of a foreign power. As a result, FBI OGC ceased discussions with or about a Page FISA order at that time. On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request. Two days later, on September 21, the FBI OGC Unit Chief contacted the NSD or Unit Chief to advise him that the FBI believed it was ready to submit a forma l FISA request to or relating to Page. Almost immediately thereafter, or assigned an attorney (or Attorney) to begin preparation of the application. "


What is the point of continuing to circulate lies about the dossier, the origins of Crossfire Hurricane, and the justification for the FISA warrants?



You're not going to be able to lie your way out of this. Radical leftist media can do all the fake "fact checks" they want. All those are are radical leftist editorials.
 
You're clueless, Jack! The Clinton Campaign and the DNC got exactly what they paid for...a smear campaign right before the election to make Trump look bad! Glenn Simpson and Richard Steele finally talked someone at Mother Jones to go with the story a week before the election and other liberal media outlets reported on the Mother Jones story.
You are either uninformed, misinformed, or a liar.

So your defense of what Fusion GPS did...is the book that Glenn Simpson put out? Why would anyone believe what the person who was in charge of the Clinton dirty tricks squad wrote, Berg? Glenn Simpson is the guy that Hillary Clinton paid to smear Donald Trump! OF COURSE HE'S GOING TO CLAIM THEY DID NOTHING WRONG!!!
 

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