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When do you plan to begin doing that?One of my gifts, it appears, is forcing Leftists to default to vulgarity when I expose them to the truth.
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When do you plan to begin doing that?One of my gifts, it appears, is forcing Leftists to default to vulgarity when I expose them to the truth.
Have you considered how ridiculous it would have been for the Clinton campaign to wait until a week before the election before revealing the contents of the dossier if their motive was to use it as a smear campaign?You're clueless, Jack! The Clinton Campaign and the DNC got exactly what they paid for...a smear campaign right before the election to make Trump look bad!
That’s it? That’s the whole smear campaign? A single story at Mother Jones?You're clueless, Jack! The Clinton Campaign and the DNC got exactly what they paid for...a smear campaign right before the election to make Trump look bad! Glenn Simpson and Richard Steele finally talked someone at Mother Jones to go with the story a week before the election and other liberal media outlets reported on the Mother Jones story.the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt.![]()
The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.
The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.
President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.
Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.
The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)
It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.
No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.
It WAS the basis for the FISA warrants! Without the Steele "fiction" that FISA Court judge would never have issued the wiretap orders! As for Clinton's margin of victory? Imagine how much she would have lost by if her people hadn't run the sleazy campaign that they did!
the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt.![]()
The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.
The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.
President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.
Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.
The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)
It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.
No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.
You're lying again.
The former dossier had not a single thing to do with the one Hillary bought and the Deep State used.
- The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.” What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'
Get lost Russian troll. Your BS is easily dismissed. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants. Well, there goes that conspiracy theory.
To appear as though you were an adult, first and foremost.....drop any reference to Putin and Russia.
That plot was exploded by the Mueller fiasco.
If there was any doubt who Putin favored as President….the dossier was a Russian attempt to sink the Trump campaign.
Second.....you, being as ignorant as you are, don't realize that the Democrat Party is the one that supported, shielded, and took orders from the Soviets for 70 years, and Obama made a quid pro quo with Putin.....here:
Third,....the Democrat Party today stands for all of the aims of the Communist Party.
Succinctly put.....rules #1 and #2
Rule #1
Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.
Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.
2a. If not for double standards Liberals would have no standards at all.
Now….vat about moose and skwerril????
Again, your BS is easily dismissed. You really need to come up with some new material. Cutting and pasting the same baloney in different threads isn't very creative. It's one of the things that gives you away. I could say the same things about your rules for Republicans and Conservatives. And I have almost four decades of policy failures on that side of the aisle to point to. Mueller (a lifelong Republican) was appointed by Jeff Session's backup (after said AG smartly realized that he could end up going down for Trump)...also a Trump appointee I believe. Everything that followed was Trump's doing. He's his own worst enemy. If not for Mitch McConnell and a handful of true believers in the Senate, he'd be gone. Again, the dossier was started as opposition research and was not the basis for the FISA warrants...no matter how much shit the right throws at the wall.
the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt.![]()
The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.
The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.
President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.
Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.
The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)
It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.
No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.
You're lying again.
The former dossier had not a single thing to do with the one Hillary bought and the Deep State used.
- The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.” What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'
Get lost Russian troll. Your BS is easily dismissed. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants. Well, there goes that conspiracy theory.
To appear as though you were an adult, first and foremost.....drop any reference to Putin and Russia.
That plot was exploded by the Mueller fiasco.
If there was any doubt who Putin favored as President….the dossier was a Russian attempt to sink the Trump campaign.
Second.....you, being as ignorant as you are, don't realize that the Democrat Party is the one that supported, shielded, and took orders from the Soviets for 70 years, and Obama made a quid pro quo with Putin.....here:
Third,....the Democrat Party today stands for all of the aims of the Communist Party.
Succinctly put.....rules #1 and #2
Rule #1
Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.
Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.
2a. If not for double standards Liberals would have no standards at all.
Now….vat about moose and skwerril????
Again, your BS is easily dismissed. You really need to come up with some new material. Cutting and pasting the same baloney in different threads isn't very creative. It's one of the things that gives you away. I could say the same things about your rules for Republicans and Conservatives. And I have almost four decades of policy failures on that side of the aisle to point to. Mueller (a lifelong Republican) was appointed by Jeff Session's backup (after said AG smartly realized that he could end up going down for Trump)...also a Trump appointee I believe. Everything that followed was Trump's doing. He's his own worst enemy. If not for Mitch McConnell and a handful of true believers in the Senate, he'd be gone. Again, the dossier was started as opposition research and was not the basis for the FISA warrants...no matter how much shit the right throws at the wall.
You're an uniformed lying piece of shit kid.
"On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request."
"Decision to Seek FISA Authority We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team's receipt of Steele's election reporting on September 19, 2016 played a central and essential role in the FBI's and Department's decision to seek the FISA order. As noted above, when the team first sought to pursue a FISA order for Page in August 2016, a decision was made by OGC, or, or both that more information was needed to support a probable cause finding that Page was an agent of a foreign power. As a result, FBI OGC ceased discussions with or about a Page FISA order at that time. On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request. Two days later, on September 21, the FBI OGC Unit Chief contacted the NSD or Unit Chief to advise him that the FBI believed it was ready to submit a forma l FISA request to or relating to Page. Almost immediately thereafter, or assigned an attorney (or Attorney) to begin preparation of the application. "
There would never have been any FISA warrant sans the dossier.
There would never have been any FISA warrant sans the dossier.
Really???
Page was the subject of FISA warrant in 2014. 2017 news accounts about the warrant indicated it was granted because of Page's ties to Russian government officials, and their numerous attempts by the Russians to to recruit him. Page listed himself as an "informal advisor to the Kremlin".
This idea that without the Dossier there would have been no FISA warrant is Devon Nunes' bullshit and lies. He used his role as head of the Intel Committee to deflect and undermine the Russia Investigation at every turn.
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Reports: Carter Page Was Subject to FISA Warrant in 2013/2014
I have always recalled a nugget buried deep in a CNN report published in Aug. 4, 2017. The 61st paragraph of the report reads: "Page had been the subject of a secret intelligence surveillance warrant since 2014, earlier than had been previously reported, US officials briefed on the probe told...www.justsecurity.org
If I have to explain it, you’ll never understand it. Your cowardice and lack of argument are exposed.We'll, we will never know, because you aren't able to tell us what the lies are or even prove them. So, you are posting absolutely nothing that has any value to anyone. Why bother?The only breeze here is every statement of truth going right over your head. When one just regurgitates the media’s lies nothing stops your losing.This is so easy when you can just breeze through every opposing post, totally unchallenged. When the hate takes control, nothing can stop their losing.He proved obstruction. How do we know? He said Trump can be indicted for obstruction when he leaves office.Too bad Mueller the Senile couldn’t actually prove any of his OPINIONS on that. Facebook ads, of which the vast majority saw 2 of (If they even paid attention to the ads popping up) swayed the election? Hardly. Keep relying on that roll of toilet paper that Mueller didn’t even have a hand in.The scale and scope of their interference, and their decision to choose one caWith all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
The scale and scope of Russia's "sweeping and systematic" interference was unprecedented........and consistently downplayed by Trumpleton's for obvious reasons. Know what else was unprecedented, the enormous effort they put in to the interference in favor of a particular candidate.With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion," Mueller wrote in the 448-page document, which lays out new details about a Kremlin-backed plot that compromised Democrats' computer networks and targeted state and local election offices. Mueller wrote that investigators also found evidence of repeated communications — but not "coordination" — between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and people claiming to have damaging information on Hillary Clinton.
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Collusion aside, Mueller found abundant evidence of Russian election plot
The report also underscored the urgency of fixing the nation’s election security gaps before 2020.www.politico.com
Another fucking lie, ChiCom troll.
You're worthless, just fucking lies from Beijing.
Absolutely. It's a lie that was exposed by the House Dem's report following the intel committee's investigation.This idea that without the Dossier there would have been no FISA warrant is Devon Nunes' bullshit and lies.
If I have to explain it, you’ll never understand it. Your cowardice and lack of argument are exposed.We'll, we will never know, because you aren't able to tell us what the lies are or even prove them. So, you are posting absolutely nothing that has any value to anyone. Why bother?The only breeze here is every statement of truth going right over your head. When one just regurgitates the media’s lies nothing stops your losing.This is so easy when you can just breeze through every opposing post, totally unchallenged. When the hate takes control, nothing can stop their losing.He proved obstruction. How do we know? He said Trump can be indicted for obstruction when he leaves office.Too bad Mueller the Senile couldn’t actually prove any of his OPINIONS on that. Facebook ads, of which the vast majority saw 2 of (If they even paid attention to the ads popping up) swayed the election? Hardly. Keep relying on that roll of toilet paper that Mueller didn’t even have a hand in.The scale and scope of their interference, and their decision to choose one caWith all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
The scale and scope of Russia's "sweeping and systematic" interference was unprecedented........and consistently downplayed by Trumpleton's for obvious reasons. Know what else was unprecedented, the enormous effort they put in to the interference in favor of a particular candidate.With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion," Mueller wrote in the 448-page document, which lays out new details about a Kremlin-backed plot that compromised Democrats' computer networks and targeted state and local election offices. Mueller wrote that investigators also found evidence of repeated communications — but not "coordination" — between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and people claiming to have damaging information on Hillary Clinton.
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Collusion aside, Mueller found abundant evidence of Russian election plot
The report also underscored the urgency of fixing the nation’s election security gaps before 2020.www.politico.com
Another fucking lie, ChiCom troll.
You're worthless, just fucking lies from Beijing.
BWK really and truly is a troll working for Communist China.
Democrats didn’t include Russia materials in the impeachment but there is nothing to stop them from impeaching Trump again.
On Friday, the Supreme Court ruled that the DOJ has to hand over the Grand Jury testimony to Congress right fucking now.
Barr has been stalling on this since the Mueller Report dropped.
Trumps Russia troubles aren’t over. I notice he couldn’t wait to call his handler to tell him he has succeeded in getting Flynn off. I guess Trump thinks he’ll be able to lift those sanctions now.
Thats not going to happen. Neither Pelosi nor McConnell will allow it to happen.
Both Carter Page and Paul Manafort had been under surveillance by the FBI for years because of their involvement with Russian and Ukrainian interests, and their connections to the Kremlin, and suddenly, miraculously, both men "volunteered" to work for the Trump Campaign.
But the FBI shouldn't investigate or be suspicious about this at all. Nor should they worry that one of Trump's "top foreign policy advisors" is bragging in a London bar that the Russians have Hillary's emails. Or the more than 200 contacts between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. They shouldn't look into this at all.
No, no, nothing to see here, just move along.
You think the Democrats are going to try and impeach Trump again? Really, Dragon Lady? Did you not watch what happened with the last attempt? Let me be blunt. I don't think the American people will stand for more of the bullshit that Adam Schiff and his cronies put us through the last time.Am wondering why he pled guilty twice if he was innocence?
So Strzok would have his men stop raping his wife - you fucking traitor moron.
It was a coerced confession. They threatened his family - CREDIBLE threats.Too bad he proved only that my dog has more intelligence than him and you combined. So why wasn’t that in your bullshit impeachment? Oh yeah, because it didn’t exist except in Mueller’s dementia.He proved obstruction. How do we know? He said Trump can be indicted for obstruction when he leaves office.Too bad Mueller the Senile couldn’t actually prove any of his OPINIONS on that. Facebook ads, of which the vast majority saw 2 of (If they even paid attention to the ads popping up) swayed the election? Hardly. Keep relying on that roll of toilet paper that Mueller didn’t even have a hand in.The scale and scope of their interference, and their decision to choose one caWith all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
The scale and scope of Russia's "sweeping and systematic" interference was unprecedented........and consistently downplayed by Trumpleton's for obvious reasons. Know what else was unprecedented, the enormous effort they put in to the interference in favor of a particular candidate.With all due respect, Old Lady...Russia interfering in our elections isn't something new.
"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion," Mueller wrote in the 448-page document, which lays out new details about a Kremlin-backed plot that compromised Democrats' computer networks and targeted state and local election offices. Mueller wrote that investigators also found evidence of repeated communications — but not "coordination" — between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and people claiming to have damaging information on Hillary Clinton.
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Collusion aside, Mueller found abundant evidence of Russian election plot
The report also underscored the urgency of fixing the nation’s election security gaps before 2020.www.politico.com
Democrats didn’t include Russia materials in the impeachment but there is nothing to stop them from impeaching Trump again.
On Friday, the Supreme Court ruled that the DOJ has to hand over the Grand Jury testimony to Congress right fucking now.
Barr has been stalling on this since the Mueller Report dropped.
Trumps Russia troubles aren’t over. I notice he couldn’t wait to call his handler to tell him he has succeeded in getting Flynn off. I guess Trump thinks he’ll be able to lift those sanctions now.
Thats not going to happen. Neither Pelosi nor McConnell will allow it to happen.
What ChiCom manure are you referring to? You just keep thrashing the hate. It will be your side's undoing. The constant drumbeat of the alt-right to see if any shit sticks to the wall? Trump's bagman dismissing charges against Flynn. The attempt to manufacture evidence to satisfy a right wing narrative in time for the election...all in the middle of one of the worst public health and economic crisis in our history. Yeah, glad to see people on the right have their priorities straight.
Did the DOJ have all the justification it needed to question Flynn about his contacts with Kislyak?
Yes. It was within their jurisdiction to follow up on the Flynn-Kislyak conversation, along with Flynn’s false statements to Pence and Spicer. At a minimum the fact that the Russian government would know that Flynn had lied left him open to potential blackmail by a hostile foreign power............surely a realistic counterintelligence concern.
Was the FBI authorized to do this investigation even if the prior investigation in to whether Flynn was a Russian operative had been closed?
Yes. The standard for opening an assessment is quite low. It is explicitly less than “‘information or an allegation’ indicating the existence of ... [a]n activity constituting ... a threat to national security,” which is required to open a preliminary investigation (DIOG 6.5). Opening an assessment requires only that there be an “authorized purpose” and a “clearly defined objective” for the assessment. In particular, the DIOG makes clear that an assessment is appropriate when “there is reason to collect information or facts to determine whether there is ... a national security threat” (DIOG 5.1; emphasis added). And as part of an assessment, the FBI is allowed to conduct interviews, including of the possible subject or target (DIOG 18.5.6).
Billy the Bagman has made the horseshit argument that when the FBI—aware of extensive Russian interference in U.S. politics in order to benefit the Trump campaign—learned that the incoming national security adviser requested that Russia not respond to the sanctions that were imposed in response to that interference and then lied to other government officials about that, it could not even “collect information or facts to determine” whether this created a counterintelligence threat.
Is the use of prosecution of Flynn's son as leverage grounds for dismissal of the case?
No. Leaning on a potential defendant for cooperation using the criminal liability of family members as leverage is not unheard of. This does not mean the practice is beyond criticism—but the handling of Flynn’s case is not some kind of aberration, let alone the sort of conscience-shocking thing that might justify a dismissal.
And to the extent any nod-and-a-wink arrangement on Flynn Jr. would raise any kind of Giglio issue, it certainly does not with respect to Flynn, who was obviously aware of the predicament his son faced and any role of his plea in alleviating it. That issue would only arise, as the Covington email reflects, if Flynn’s testimony were used against someone else and any arrangement with respect to his son were not disclosed.
Flynn’s consulting group, with which his son was employed, engaged in practices that raised legal questions under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, exposing both father and son to potential criminal liability.
Are any of the documents found in Jensen's review of the case grounds for dismissal?
No. The way the documents suggest that FBI officials discussed the case and made adjustments to their plans is typical of criminal investigations, former federal prosecutors say, even if seeing these internal discussions put in writing isn’t as common.
More importantly, the documents don’t make the false statements Flynn pleaded guilty to — lying to the FBI about his conversations with then-Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak — any less false. Nor are they the kinds of documents that prosecutors were legally obligated to produce for Flynn’s lawyers.
Is Flynn's motion to withdraw his guilty plea defensible? Yes.
Is Flynn's motion to throw the case out due to prosecutorial malfeasance defensible?
No. Flynn’s new lawyer cites notes given to her by Jensen, which were presumably written by then-FBI counterintelligence chief Bill Priestap, as supposed smoking-gun evidence that the FBI was seeking to entrap Flynn in a lie. The trouble with that argument is that absolutely nothing forced Flynn not to tell the truth in that interview. And while FBI officials appear to have discussed the strategic purpose of the interview, there’s nothing whatsoever wrong with that.
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Flynn Redux: What Those FBI Documents Really Show
A lot of people seem to be expecting Michael Flynn's sudden vindication. They should take a deep breath.
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Why The Latest Flynn Entrapment Claims Are As Bogus As The Last Ones
The pandemic has changed many things, but it has not changed Michael Flynn’s habit of overhyping claims of FBI entrapment...
talkingpointsmemo.com
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The Justice Department’s Faulty Arguments in the Flynn Case
Under the logic of the government’s motion to dismiss the charges against Michael Flynn, the FBI can’t investigate whether someone is a Russian agent unless it already has evidence that the person is a Russian agent.
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the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt.![]()
The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.
The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.
President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.
Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.
The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)
It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.
No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.
You're lying again.
The former dossier had not a single thing to do with the one Hillary bought and the Deep State used.
- The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.” What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'
Get lost Russian troll. Your BS is easily dismissed. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants. Well, there goes that conspiracy theory.
the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt.![]()
The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.
The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.
President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.
Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.
The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)
It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.
No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.
You're lying again.
The former dossier had not a single thing to do with the one Hillary bought and the Deep State used.
- The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.” What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'
Using Townhall.com as a source? Extreme right wing bias, poor fact checking record.
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Using scurrilous sources for your fake news arguments never works. Only gullible fools looking for validation of their wingnut ideas and lies believe them.
the only evidence that was manufactured was the fake dossier dems got from the russians to illegally get a fisa warrant to spy on the president in an attempted coup ! treason !Yep. Could have predicted this. Trump's bag man at the DOJ has the charges against Flynn dropped and every right winger is wetting themselves. So we've already thrown the rule of law out. What's next? Manufacturing evidence? Abuse of Power? Again, if Flynn is innocent, why make a deal? So what if they wanted to catch him in a lie? All he has to do is tell the truth and he's home free. I wonder why he lied then?..and if he was innocent, why does his boss throw him under the bus? Man, lot of stupid people in the Trump administrations. You'd think they were corrupt.![]()
The dossier wasn't fake, and much of it proved to be true. The dems didn't use the dossier to get the warrant, the FBI used less than 1/2 page as secondary evidence to support primary evidence. The Application was 70 pages.
The FBI had previously had a FISA warrant on Carter Page BEFORE he joined the Trump Campaign, and before the Dossier had even existed. When Carter Page joined the Trump campaign, they dropped the surveillance and only re-applied after he left the campaign.
President Trump was investigated because of his campaign's over 200 contact, meetings and other involvement with the Russian government. There was no coup attempt. There was a legal impeachment of the President as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States.
Russian/Trumpian propaganda will continue to be debunked on this forum, no matter how many times you try to pass it off as fact.
The Trump Dossier is disinformation that the Obama regime bought from the Kremlin in order to rig the 2016 election, you fucking moron. (I guess you're not technically a traitor since you're a foreigner.)
It's time for some executions - Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Weissman, to start with. KGB John Brennan, James Clapper for the encore. You tried to overthrow our government, time to pay.
No. It wasn't. It was actually started by another Republican campaign as opposition research into your lord and master. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants and to my knowledge, Clinton never used once piece of information contained in the dossier to beat Trump over the head with during the campaign. You would think that with her margin of victory, she might have done so in hindsight. But you just keep on parroting the same BS. It would be better if you just admit you back a corrupt fraud and you willingly do so.
You're lying again.
The former dossier had not a single thing to do with the one Hillary bought and the Deep State used.
- The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.” What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'
Get lost Russian troll. Your BS is easily dismissed. It wasn't the basis for the FISA warrants. Well, there goes that conspiracy theory.
To appear as though you were an adult, first and foremost.....drop any reference to Putin and Russia.
That plot was exploded by the Mueller fiasco.
If there was any doubt who Putin favored as President….the dossier was a Russian attempt to sink the Trump campaign.
Second.....you, being as ignorant as you are, don't realize that the Democrat Party is the one that supported, shielded, and took orders from the Soviets for 70 years, and Obama made a quid pro quo with Putin.....here:
Third,....the Democrat Party today stands for all of the aims of the Communist Party.
Succinctly put.....rules #1 and #2
Rule #1
Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.
Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.
2a. If not for double standards Liberals would have no standards at all.
Now….vat about moose and skwerril????
Again, your BS is easily dismissed. You really need to come up with some new material. Cutting and pasting the same baloney in different threads isn't very creative. It's one of the things that gives you away. I could say the same things about your rules for Republicans and Conservatives. And I have almost four decades of policy failures on that side of the aisle to point to. Mueller (a lifelong Republican) was appointed by Jeff Session's backup (after said AG smartly realized that he could end up going down for Trump)...also a Trump appointee I believe. Everything that followed was Trump's doing. He's his own worst enemy. If not for Mitch McConnell and a handful of true believers in the Senate, he'd be gone. Again, the dossier was started as opposition research and was not the basis for the FISA warrants...no matter how much shit the right throws at the wall.
You're an uniformed lying piece of shit kid.
"On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request."
"Decision to Seek FISA Authority We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team's receipt of Steele's election reporting on September 19, 2016 played a central and essential role in the FBI's and Department's decision to seek the FISA order. As noted above, when the team first sought to pursue a FISA order for Page in August 2016, a decision was made by OGC, or, or both that more information was needed to support a probable cause finding that Page was an agent of a foreign power. As a result, FBI OGC ceased discussions with or about a Page FISA order at that time. On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request. Two days later, on September 21, the FBI OGC Unit Chief contacted the NSD or Unit Chief to advise him that the FBI believed it was ready to submit a forma l FISA request to or relating to Page. Almost immediately thereafter, or assigned an attorney (or Attorney) to begin preparation of the application. "
What is the point of continuing to circulate lies about the dossier, the origins of Crossfire Hurricane, and the justification for the FISA warrants?
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Dossier Not What 'Started All of This' - FactCheck.org
In an interview about the special counsel's report, Rep. John Ratcliffe said that what "started all of this" was "a fake, phony dossier." But a House Republican intelligence committee memo said it was information about a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser that sparked the FBI's...www.factcheck.org
So your defense of what Fusion GPS did...is the book that Glenn Simpson put out? Why would anyone believe what the person who was in charge of the Clinton dirty tricks squad wrote, Berg? Glenn Simpson is the guy that Hillary Clinton paid to smear Donald Trump! OF COURSE HE'S GOING TO CLAIM THEY DID NOTHING WRONG!!!You are either uninformed, misinformed, or a liar.You're clueless, Jack! The Clinton Campaign and the DNC got exactly what they paid for...a smear campaign right before the election to make Trump look bad! Glenn Simpson and Richard Steele finally talked someone at Mother Jones to go with the story a week before the election and other liberal media outlets reported on the Mother Jones story.
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The Inside Story of Christopher Steele’s Trump Dossier
In a new book, the founders of the firm that compiled it defend their work.www.newyorker.com