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That's quite the rebuttal. Yet it does seem to sum up the LGBT position with respect to the laws & points discussed on page 1.
^^ Dodge ^^
The marriage laws at issue thus harm and humiliate the children of same-sex couples.
Obergefell v. Hodges
I didn't write the passage on necessities from the Infancy Doctrine in my last post. It is clear, is it not as to children having representation at civil trials of extraordinary circumstance for them?
Nope. Yet the USSC crafted Obergefell as if there is one. Yet another reason to nullify it by overturning with the new Court....and still no “gay” gene.
Lol
Why do we need a judicial branch of government when they just make it up as they go? Well, as far as genetics go, we breed cattle and crops. That's fine. But we can't notice broken human sexuality because of politics? Gays dictate what is normal. Really?Part I: Judiciary Weaving Language To Create New Constitutional Protections Without The Pesky Legislature Interfering: (a violation of the separation of powers all done by the Court's democratic party representatives...ok a couple of independents in name only.)
There has been argument here on the boards that 2015's gay marriage decision (Obergefell) didn't include intimacy as a reason for granting marriage rights. However, this is false. The Court purposefully wove terms of language together to create a new class of protection for just some (but not other) sexual kink behaviors.
What's important to take away from these distinctions, this bastardization of language, is that the Court in interweaving the terms, also created a new non-existent class for inclusion for "special protections/privileges" in the US Constitution which do not exist there. The Court's subversive "have our cake and eat it too"...pandering to the LGBT cult created a rift in the separation of powers and in future laws that cannot any longer deny any other "sexual-intimacy kink"...(unless in these paragraphs, the Justices writing were referring to back rubs or pats on the shoulder when referring directly to "same-sex intimacy/etc.".)
Sorry to be so graphic, but a man inserting his penis into another man's anus as an artificial vagina (outward sign of closeted heterosexuality) and treating that "bottom" partner as a "psuedo-wife/mother" (outward sign of closeted heterosexuality) for the purposes of parenting children implicitly involved in marriage cannot be a superior deviant sex act (the majority objects to) than a man taking two or more wives, for instance. And at least the man's kink of wanting intimacy with more than one wife will provide both a mother and father for life for kids implicitly involved in marriage. If argument should be offered in this thread that "a majority approves of gay marriage", I remind readers here that gay marriage is and always has been illegal in the most liberal goofy state in the Union: California....the majority there always voting it down. Most recently in 2008. It would fail again today because what goes on in the private opinions of the voting booth quite obviously is in direct conflict with cherry-picked polling the LGBT controlled media dispenses to the general public "as fact".
Article I, Section 7.5 of the California Constitution:
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Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.
(Sec. 7.5 added Nov. 4, 2008, by Prop. 8. Initiative measure. Note: Ruled unconstitutional per Perry v. Schwarzenegger (N.D.Cal. 2010) 704 F.Supp.2d 921.)
Here is just one example of many, many examples in Obergefell where the words are used as one and the same:
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This dynamic can be seen in the Nation’s experiences with the rights of gays and lesbians. Until the mid-20th century, same-sex intimacy long had been condemned as immoral by the state itself in most Western nations, a belief often embodied in the criminal law. For this reason, among others, many persons did not deem homosexuals to have dignity in their own distinct identity. A truthful declaration by same-sex couples of what was in their hearts had to remain unspoken. Even when a greater awareness of the humanity and integrity of homosexual persons came in the period after World War II, the argument that gays and lesbians had a just claim to dignity was in conflict with both law and widespread social conventions. Same-sex intimacy remained a crime in many States. Gays and lesbians were prohibited from most government employment, barred from military service, excluded under immigration laws, targeted by police, and burdened in their rights to associate.
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Rights to associate do not equal marriage. If they did, other sex "intimacy" kinks like polyamorists (polygamists) would have that same right of association in marriage. For they too have long been discriminated against by the majority's rejection of such behaviors/lifestyles.
What readers should take away from this clever use of language is that while they were asleep and thinking interweaving the terms doesn't matter, it created a whole new category of protections based on behaviors and not static class like race, gender, country of origin or actual recognized religion. Unless the Justices were declaring that just some sex kinks are themselves a form of religion, based in behavior, and therefore protected? But I saw no mention of that at all in Obergefell from beginning to end.
The problem is folks, when you deregulate the majority rule on repugnant minority behaviors, where does that stop? The 14th Amendment is about equal treatment for all. So that means, literally, ALL minority repugnant behaviors can now marry since to not grant them that "dignity", is "Unconstitutional".
Will these facts if revealed, and the damage they caused American Law hurt the democrats the Country associates with these high crimes? Remember, a judge or Justice of the court system from the bottom to the top does not have the power to insert brand new language into the US Constitution. There is nothing in the US Constitution referring to deviant-sex intimacy as a protected thing. The only behaviors protected from the majority are religious ones.
Gay Gene Fake Premise:
And, despite hasty conclusions by "scientists"..there is no "gay gene". It's bullshit, contrived purposefully as a psuedo-defense for what they know is coming. In other words they don't want LGBT being seen as behavioral...what it is in fact.. in near-future court battles about cake baking and adoption agencies not wanting to be forced to disgorge vulnerable children into homes with permanent contractual bans on either a father or mother being present... Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: ‘There Is No Gay Gene’ And a really useful link with dozens of links to actual scientific data: CHAPTER 6: THE MYTH OF THE “GAY GENE”
If there is no gay gene, then they are behaviors. If they are behaviors then they are subject to majority rule.
Stay tuned for Part II...
Normal marriage is for the benefit of the children. So they can't collectively dissolve that contract even if they wanted to.
שִׁמְשׁוֹן: Same sex couples don't have children by normal means, they steal them from under our feet and then condemn us for noticing, היבריס.Normal marriage is for the benefit of the children. So they can't collectively dissolve that contract even if they wanted to.
Same sex marriage is normal marriage. The rest of your post is gibberish.
Children aren't party to the marriage of their parents. You can't get past that.
Also, the Supreme Court found that banning same sex marriage harms and humiliates children. You can't get past that either.
You're still stuck. 3 years and counting.
שִׁמְשׁוֹן: Same sex couples don't have children by normal means, they steal them from under our feet and then condemn us for noticing, היבריס.Normal marriage is for the benefit of the children. So they can't collectively dissolve that contract even if they wanted to.
Same sex marriage is normal marriage. The rest of your post is gibberish.
Children aren't party to the marriage of their parents. You can't get past that.
Also, the Supreme Court found that banning same sex marriage harms and humiliates children. You can't get past that either.
You're still stuck. 3 years and counting.
Gays don't "just have kids". They steal evey crumb of normality they can.They buy lawyers to change laws, they buy as much propaganda they can. And they think we don't notice? Some of you might not. And some of you call that foolishness "Enlightenment'. Yeah, right.שִׁמְשׁוֹן: Same sex couples don't have children by normal means, they steal them from under our feet and then condemn us for noticing, היבריס.Normal marriage is for the benefit of the children. So they can't collectively dissolve that contract even if they wanted to.
Same sex marriage is normal marriage. The rest of your post is gibberish.
Children aren't party to the marriage of their parents. You can't get past that.
Also, the Supreme Court found that banning same sex marriage harms and humiliates children. You can't get past that either.
You're still stuck. 3 years and counting.
There's no theft. Nothing is being taken from you. They adopt like any other couple may or have children themselves. Like any other couple.
I've been around same sex couples with families. They're.....unremarkable. Just folks raising their kids. They struggle to move car seats. They step on legos. They have kids who are picky eaters.
Just....normal parenting stuff.
Gays don't "just have kids". They steal evey crumb of normality they can.שִׁמְשׁוֹן: Same sex couples don't have children by normal means, they steal them from under our feet and then condemn us for noticing, היבריס.Normal marriage is for the benefit of the children. So they can't collectively dissolve that contract even if they wanted to.
Same sex marriage is normal marriage. The rest of your post is gibberish.
Children aren't party to the marriage of their parents. You can't get past that.
Also, the Supreme Court found that banning same sex marriage harms and humiliates children. You can't get past that either.
You're still stuck. 3 years and counting.
There's no theft. Nothing is being taken from you. They adopt like any other couple may or have children themselves. Like any other couple.
I've been around same sex couples with families. They're.....unremarkable. Just folks raising their kids. They struggle to move car seats. They step on legos. They have kids who are picky eaters.
Just....normal parenting stuff.
They buy lawyers to change laws, they buy as much propaganda they can. And they think we don't notice? Some of you might not. And some of you call that foolishness "Enlightenment'. Yeah, right.
But gays will never have children biologically , you DO understand biology? They (and you) like to sweep that under the rug. I am not going to ignore that simple fact, məšugga' person.Gays don't "just have kids". They steal evey crumb of normality they can.שִׁמְשׁוֹן: Same sex couples don't have children by normal means, they steal them from under our feet and then condemn us for noticing, היבריס.Normal marriage is for the benefit of the children. So they can't collectively dissolve that contract even if they wanted to.
Same sex marriage is normal marriage. The rest of your post is gibberish.
Children aren't party to the marriage of their parents. You can't get past that.
Also, the Supreme Court found that banning same sex marriage harms and humiliates children. You can't get past that either.
You're still stuck. 3 years and counting.
There's no theft. Nothing is being taken from you. They adopt like any other couple may or have children themselves. Like any other couple.
We have to agree to disagree
I've been around same sex couples with families. They're.....unremarkable. Just folks raising their kids. They struggle to move car seats. They step on legos. They have kids who are picky eaters.
Just....normal parenting stuff.
Again, they steal nothing. They adopt or they have their own children. Nothing is being taken from you or anyone else.
They buy lawyers to change laws, they buy as much propaganda they can. And they think we don't notice? Some of you might not. And some of you call that foolishness "Enlightenment'. Yeah, right.
Laughing.....what is being taken from you, Mary? A gay couple get married and adopts a kid and what? What is do you lose? What is the cost to you?
Raising a kid is pretty normal stuff.
But gays will never have children biologically , you DO understand biology? They (and you) like to sweep that under the rug. I am not going to ignore that simple fact, məšugga' person.Gays don't "just have kids". They steal evey crumb of normality they can.שִׁמְשׁוֹן: Same sex couples don't have children by normal means, they steal them from under our feet and then condemn us for noticing, היבריס.Same sex marriage is normal marriage. The rest of your post is gibberish.
Children aren't party to the marriage of their parents. You can't get past that.
Also, the Supreme Court found that banning same sex marriage harms and humiliates children. You can't get past that either.
You're still stuck. 3 years and counting.
There's no theft. Nothing is being taken from you. They adopt like any other couple may or have children themselves. Like any other couple.
We have to agree to disagree
I've been around same sex couples with families. They're.....unremarkable. Just folks raising their kids. They struggle to move car seats. They step on legos. They have kids who are picky eaters.
Just....normal parenting stuff.
Again, they steal nothing. They adopt or they have their own children. Nothing is being taken from you or anyone else.
They buy lawyers to change laws, they buy as much propaganda they can. And they think we don't notice? Some of you might not. And some of you call that foolishness "Enlightenment'. Yeah, right.
Laughing.....what is being taken from you, Mary? A gay couple get married and adopts a kid and what? What is do you lose? What is the cost to you?
Raising a kid is pretty normal stuff.
You almost make sound reasonable, שִׁמְשׁוֹן, What did we gain by giving perverts same sex rights and let them adopt children, and why is that a good thing?But gays will never have children biologically , you DO understand biology? They (and you) like to sweep that under the rug. I am not going to ignore that simple fact, məšugga' person.Gays don't "just have kids". They steal evey crumb of normality they can.שִׁמְשׁוֹן: Same sex couples don't have children by normal means, they steal them from under our feet and then condemn us for noticing, היבריס.
There's no theft. Nothing is being taken from you. They adopt like any other couple may or have children themselves. Like any other couple.
We have to agree to disagree
I've been around same sex couples with families. They're.....unremarkable. Just folks raising their kids. They struggle to move car seats. They step on legos. They have kids who are picky eaters.
Just....normal parenting stuff.
Again, they steal nothing. They adopt or they have their own children. Nothing is being taken from you or anyone else.
They buy lawyers to change laws, they buy as much propaganda they can. And they think we don't notice? Some of you might not. And some of you call that foolishness "Enlightenment'. Yeah, right.
Laughing.....what is being taken from you, Mary? A gay couple get married and adopts a kid and what? What is do you lose? What is the cost to you?
Raising a kid is pretty normal stuff.
They have have a surrogate carry their child or adopt. If they're a lesbian couple one can have the child. Surrogacy and adoption are perfectly normal.
There's nothing to 'sweep under the table'. There's no 'theft'. There's nothing taken from you, Mary. They get married and raise their families.....and you lose nothing.
You almost make sound reasonable, שִׁמְשׁוֹן, What did we gain by giving perverts same sex rights and let them adopt children, and why is that a good thing?But gays will never have children biologically , you DO understand biology? They (and you) like to sweep that under the rug. I am not going to ignore that simple fact, məšugga' person.Gays don't "just have kids". They steal evey crumb of normality they can.There's no theft. Nothing is being taken from you. They adopt like any other couple may or have children themselves. Like any other couple.
We have to agree to disagree
I've been around same sex couples with families. They're.....unremarkable. Just folks raising their kids. They struggle to move car seats. They step on legos. They have kids who are picky eaters.
Just....normal parenting stuff.
Again, they steal nothing. They adopt or they have their own children. Nothing is being taken from you or anyone else.
They buy lawyers to change laws, they buy as much propaganda they can. And they think we don't notice? Some of you might not. And some of you call that foolishness "Enlightenment'. Yeah, right.
Laughing.....what is being taken from you, Mary? A gay couple get married and adopts a kid and what? What is do you lose? What is the cost to you?
Raising a kid is pretty normal stuff.
They have have a surrogate carry their child or adopt. If they're a lesbian couple one can have the child. Surrogacy and adoption are perfectly normal.
There's nothing to 'sweep under the table'. There's no 'theft'. There's nothing taken from you, Mary. They get married and raise their families.....and you lose nothing.
Gays don't "just have kids". They steal evey crumb of normality they can.They buy lawyers to change laws, they buy as much propaganda they can. And they think we don't notice? Some of you might not. And some of you call that foolishness "Enlightenment'. Yeah, right.שִׁמְשׁוֹן: Same sex couples don't have children by normal means, they steal them from under our feet and then condemn us for noticing, היבריס.Normal marriage is for the benefit of the children. So they can't collectively dissolve that contract even if they wanted to.
Same sex marriage is normal marriage. The rest of your post is gibberish.
Children aren't party to the marriage of their parents. You can't get past that.
Also, the Supreme Court found that banning same sex marriage harms and humiliates children. You can't get past that either.
You're still stuck. 3 years and counting.
There's no theft. Nothing is being taken from you. They adopt like any other couple may or have children themselves. Like any other couple.
I've been around same sex couples with families. They're.....unremarkable. Just folks raising their kids. They struggle to move car seats. They step on legos. They have kids who are picky eaters.
Just....normal parenting stuff.
You almost make sound reasonable, שִׁמְשׁוֹן, What did we gain by giving perverts same sex rights and let them adopt children, and why is that a good thing?But gays will never have children biologically , you DO understand biology? They (and you) like to sweep that under the rug. I am not going to ignore that simple fact, məšugga' person.Gays don't "just have kids". They steal evey crumb of normality they can.There's no theft. Nothing is being taken from you. They adopt like any other couple may or have children themselves. Like any other couple.
We have to agree to disagree
I've been around same sex couples with families. They're.....unremarkable. Just folks raising their kids. They struggle to move car seats. They step on legos. They have kids who are picky eaters.
Just....normal parenting stuff.
Again, they steal nothing. They adopt or they have their own children. Nothing is being taken from you or anyone else.
They buy lawyers to change laws, they buy as much propaganda they can. And they think we don't notice? Some of you might not. And some of you call that foolishness "Enlightenment'. Yeah, right.
Laughing.....what is being taken from you, Mary? A gay couple get married and adopts a kid and what? What is do you lose? What is the cost to you?
Raising a kid is pretty normal stuff.
They have have a surrogate carry their child or adopt. If they're a lesbian couple one can have the child. Surrogacy and adoption are perfectly normal.
There's nothing to 'sweep under the table'. There's no 'theft'. There's nothing taken from you, Mary. They get married and raise their families.....and you lose nothing.
But gays will never have children biologically , you DO understand biology? .Gays don't "just have kids". They steal evey crumb of normality they can.שִׁמְשׁוֹן: Same sex couples don't have children by normal means, they steal them from under our feet and then condemn us for noticing, היבריס.Same sex marriage is normal marriage. The rest of your post is gibberish.
Children aren't party to the marriage of their parents. You can't get past that.
Also, the Supreme Court found that banning same sex marriage harms and humiliates children. You can't get past that either.
You're still stuck. 3 years and counting.
There's no theft. Nothing is being taken from you. They adopt like any other couple may or have children themselves. Like any other couple.
We have to agree to disagree
I've been around same sex couples with families. They're.....unremarkable. Just folks raising their kids. They struggle to move car seats. They step on legos. They have kids who are picky eaters.
Just....normal parenting stuff.
Again, they steal nothing. They adopt or they have their own children. Nothing is being taken from you or anyone else.
They buy lawyers to change laws, they buy as much propaganda they can. And they think we don't notice? Some of you might not. And some of you call that foolishness "Enlightenment'. Yeah, right.
Laughing.....what is being taken from you, Mary? A gay couple get married and adopts a kid and what? What is do you lose? What is the cost to you?
Raising a kid is pretty normal stuff.
Only because we accept it as normal, that is rather thin ice. Norms change, yes? And they can also flip the other way, as well.You almost make sound reasonable, שִׁמְשׁוֹן, What did we gain by giving perverts same sex rights and let them adopt children, and why is that a good thing?But gays will never have children biologically , you DO understand biology? They (and you) like to sweep that under the rug. I am not going to ignore that simple fact, məšugga' person.Gays don't "just have kids". They steal evey crumb of normality they can.
Again, they steal nothing. They adopt or they have their own children. Nothing is being taken from you or anyone else.
They buy lawyers to change laws, they buy as much propaganda they can. And they think we don't notice? Some of you might not. And some of you call that foolishness "Enlightenment'. Yeah, right.
Laughing.....what is being taken from you, Mary? A gay couple get married and adopts a kid and what? What is do you lose? What is the cost to you?
Raising a kid is pretty normal stuff.
They have have a surrogate carry their child or adopt. If they're a lesbian couple one can have the child. Surrogacy and adoption are perfectly normal.
There's nothing to 'sweep under the table'. There's no 'theft'. There's nothing taken from you, Mary. They get married and raise their families.....and you lose nothing.
Same sex couples were already parents....by the 10s of thousands. Bans on same sex marriage hurt and humiliated their children for no benefit.
Children get a two parent home. And it costs you...nothing. It takes nothing from you.
