Newly Elected Muslim Congresswomen Favor Eliminating Israel

[USAF 2023]

Apparently you have chosen to ignore or not read any of my links interviewing Palestinians who plainly state the fate of the Israelis IF they become the majority.
Still haven’t told us why the Armistice borders are “ fake” and what the real borders should be

Palestine has international borders. If Israel wants borders inside those borders they have to be negotiated with the Palestinians.

Israel is supposed to " negotiate" with someone who refers to ALL of Israel as Palestine
Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine


Israel is supposed to accept they will have no rights to the Western Wall
PA officials: Jews have ‘no right to pray’ at Western Wall

The Israelis are supposed to brace themselves for Civil Wars inside the borders we hear so much about

That logo is geographically correct.

So what if it's " correct?" Still sending a message that he doesn't believe Israel has the Right to Exist. Notice you have Nothing to say about my other links, However, you have always chosen to ignore them.
Below is the definition of " negotiation"

Negotiation is a method by which people settle differences. It is a process by which compromise or agreement is reached while avoiding argument and dispute.

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine has international borders. If Israel wants borders inside those borders they have to be negotiated with the Palestinians.

Israel is supposed to " negotiate" with someone who refers to ALL of Israel as Palestine
Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine


Israel is supposed to accept they will have no rights to the Western Wall
PA officials: Jews have ‘no right to pray’ at Western Wall

The Israelis are supposed to brace themselves for Civil Wars inside the borders we hear so much about

That logo is geographically correct.

So what if it's " correct?" Still sending a message that he doesn't believe Israel has the Right to Exist. Notice you have Nothing to say about my other links, However, you have always chosen to ignore them.
Below is the definition of " negotiation"

Negotiation is a method by which people settle differences. It is a process by which compromise or agreement is reached while avoiding argument and dispute.

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

 

[USAF 2023]

Israel is supposed to " negotiate" with someone who refers to ALL of Israel as Palestine
Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine


Israel is supposed to accept they will have no rights to the Western Wall
PA officials: Jews have ‘no right to pray’ at Western Wall

The Israelis are supposed to brace themselves for Civil Wars inside the borders we hear so much about

That logo is geographically correct.

So what if it's " correct?" Still sending a message that he doesn't believe Israel has the Right to Exist. Notice you have Nothing to say about my other links, However, you have always chosen to ignore them.
Below is the definition of " negotiation"

Negotiation is a method by which people settle differences. It is a process by which compromise or agreement is reached while avoiding argument and dispute.

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Israel did initially accept the " 48" or " 67" borders as per " INTERNATIONAL LAW"
Still haven't addressed their stance that JEWS ( Not Just Israelis) are NOT permitted at the Western Wall.
Waiting for a response

 

[P F Tinmore]

That logo is geographically correct.

So what if it's " correct?" Still sending a message that he doesn't believe Israel has the Right to Exist. Notice you have Nothing to say about my other links, However, you have always chosen to ignore them.
Below is the definition of " negotiation"

Negotiation is a method by which people settle differences. It is a process by which compromise or agreement is reached while avoiding argument and dispute.

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Israel did initially accept the " 48" or " 67" borders as per " INTERNATIONAL LAW"
Still haven't addressed their stance that JEWS ( Not Just Israelis) are NOT permitted at the Western Wall.
Waiting for a response

Israel never claimed the resolution 181 proposed borders and do not accept the '67 borders that are not really borders.

 

[USAF 2023]

So what if it's " correct?" Still sending a message that he doesn't believe Israel has the Right to Exist. Notice you have Nothing to say about my other links, However, you have always chosen to ignore them.
Below is the definition of " negotiation"

Negotiation is a method by which people settle differences. It is a process by which compromise or agreement is reached while avoiding argument and dispute.

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Israel did initially accept the " 48" or " 67" borders as per " INTERNATIONAL LAW"
Still haven't addressed their stance that JEWS ( Not Just Israelis) are NOT permitted at the Western Wall.
Waiting for a response

Israel never claimed the resolution 181 proposed borders and do not accept the '67 borders that are not really borders.

Israel rejected them? Link. please, Meanwhile the Arab Countries stated Armistice Lines vs. Borders, not Israel
Still waiting your response on the Western Wall and why Israel should accept this ?

 

[Hollie]

So what if it's " correct?" Still sending a message that he doesn't believe Israel has the Right to Exist. Notice you have Nothing to say about my other links, However, you have always chosen to ignore them.
Below is the definition of " negotiation"

Negotiation is a method by which people settle differences. It is a process by which compromise or agreement is reached while avoiding argument and dispute.

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Israel did initially accept the " 48" or " 67" borders as per " INTERNATIONAL LAW"
Still haven't addressed their stance that JEWS ( Not Just Israelis) are NOT permitted at the Western Wall.
Waiting for a response

Israel never claimed the resolution 181 proposed borders and do not accept the '67 borders that are not really borders.

You are free to deny that Israel has borders; it’s another of the realities you deny, but then, what’s all this fuss with dead Moslems who tried to breach those borders and “rip the hearts out of Jews”?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Israel did initially accept the " 48" or " 67" borders as per " INTERNATIONAL LAW"
Still haven't addressed their stance that JEWS ( Not Just Israelis) are NOT permitted at the Western Wall.
Waiting for a response

Israel never claimed the resolution 181 proposed borders and do not accept the '67 borders that are not really borders.

Israel rejected them? Link. please, Meanwhile the Arab Countries stated Armistice Lines vs. Borders, not Israel
Still waiting your response on the Western Wall and why Israel should accept this ?

The Palestinians offered to accept the '67 borders. Israel will not.

 

[Hollie]

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Israel did initially accept the " 48" or " 67" borders as per " INTERNATIONAL LAW"
Still haven't addressed their stance that JEWS ( Not Just Israelis) are NOT permitted at the Western Wall.
Waiting for a response

Israel never claimed the resolution 181 proposed borders and do not accept the '67 borders that are not really borders.

Israel rejected them? Link. please, Meanwhile the Arab Countries stated Armistice Lines vs. Borders, not Israel
Still waiting your response on the Western Wall and why Israel should accept this ?

The Palestinians offered to accept the '67 borders. Israel will not.

What borders? It’s hilarious that you contradict yourself from one bumbling post to the next.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Israel did initially accept the " 48" or " 67" borders as per " INTERNATIONAL LAW"
Still haven't addressed their stance that JEWS ( Not Just Israelis) are NOT permitted at the Western Wall.
Waiting for a response

Israel never claimed the resolution 181 proposed borders and do not accept the '67 borders that are not really borders.

You are free to deny that Israel has borders; it’s another of the realities you deny, but then, what’s all this fuss with dead Moslems who tried to breach those borders and “rip the hearts out of Jews”?

The cage that Israel has built around Gaza is not a border.

 

[Hollie]

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Israel did initially accept the " 48" or " 67" borders as per " INTERNATIONAL LAW"
Still haven't addressed their stance that JEWS ( Not Just Israelis) are NOT permitted at the Western Wall.
Waiting for a response

Israel never claimed the resolution 181 proposed borders and do not accept the '67 borders that are not really borders.

You are free to deny that Israel has borders; it’s another of the realities you deny, but then, what’s all this fuss with dead Moslems who tried to breach those borders and “rip the hearts out of Jews”?

The cage that Israel has built around Gaza is not a border.

There is no cage. More of your pointless babbling.

 

[Hollie]

Israel is supposed to " negotiate" with someone who refers to ALL of Israel as Palestine
Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine


Israel is supposed to accept they will have no rights to the Western Wall
PA officials: Jews have ‘no right to pray’ at Western Wall

The Israelis are supposed to brace themselves for Civil Wars inside the borders we hear so much about

That logo is geographically correct.

So what if it's " correct?" Still sending a message that he doesn't believe Israel has the Right to Exist. Notice you have Nothing to say about my other links, However, you have always chosen to ignore them.
Below is the definition of " negotiation"

Negotiation is a method by which people settle differences. It is a process by which compromise or agreement is reached while avoiding argument and dispute.

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

The Arabs-Moslems had no sovereign territory to cede to anyone.

 

[Hollie]

Israel is supposed to " negotiate" with someone who refers to ALL of Israel as Palestine
Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine


Israel is supposed to accept they will have no rights to the Western Wall
PA officials: Jews have ‘no right to pray’ at Western Wall

The Israelis are supposed to brace themselves for Civil Wars inside the borders we hear so much about

That logo is geographically correct.

So what if it's " correct?" Still sending a message that he doesn't believe Israel has the Right to Exist. Notice you have Nothing to say about my other links, However, you have always chosen to ignore them.
Below is the definition of " negotiation"

Negotiation is a method by which people settle differences. It is a process by which compromise or agreement is reached while avoiding argument and dispute.

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Nonsense.

 

[USAF 2023]

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Israel did initially accept the " 48" or " 67" borders as per " INTERNATIONAL LAW"
Still haven't addressed their stance that JEWS ( Not Just Israelis) are NOT permitted at the Western Wall.
Waiting for a response

Israel never claimed the resolution 181 proposed borders and do not accept the '67 borders that are not really borders.

Israel rejected them? Link. please, Meanwhile the Arab Countries stated Armistice Lines vs. Borders, not Israel
Still waiting your response on the Western Wall and why Israel should accept this ?

The Palestinians offered to accept the '67 borders. Israel will not.

With no Rights to E. Jerusalem where their Holy Sites are, Waiting for your answer.


This is their " offer" No rights to; Pre 1967 Mentality

Jewish Holy Sites Archives - iTravelJerusalem

 

[Hollie]

Israel is supposed to " negotiate" with someone who refers to ALL of Israel as Palestine
Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine


Israel is supposed to accept they will have no rights to the Western Wall
PA officials: Jews have ‘no right to pray’ at Western Wall

The Israelis are supposed to brace themselves for Civil Wars inside the borders we hear so much about

That logo is geographically correct.

So what if it's " correct?" Still sending a message that he doesn't believe Israel has the Right to Exist. Notice you have Nothing to say about my other links, However, you have always chosen to ignore them.
Below is the definition of " negotiation"

Negotiation is a method by which people settle differences. It is a process by which compromise or agreement is reached while avoiding argument and dispute.

The Palestinians are the only ones who have compromised.

Please tell us what they have done to “ compromise
While your at it; tell us how they plan to achieve “ peace” by denying access to the Western Wall

The Palestinians offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel.

Israel has never excepted that offer.

Obviously you scurried away when your nonsense claim was challenged as nonsense. Funny.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I see......
Lebanon and Israel......almost at war....

And mr. T wants to discuss borders etc, which have nothing to do with the elected Muslim women.......

Uhmmmm

Where have I seen this before??????

Could we all please ignore him.

Thank you !!!

 

[Sixties Fan]

So, was Israel wrong in denying Omar and Tlaib entry to their country? According to Professor Eugene Kontorovich of the George Mason University School of Law ….. “As someone one who has argued that Israel should admit Omar and Tlaib, I must also say that the decision to bar them is legitimate. Countries routinely deny visas to those with extremist views. The U.S. excludes people for ideologies fundamentally hostile to the U.S. ” and, in that regard, Israeli law also provides that, “Israel has a right to prohibit activists, especially those who want to see it wiped off the map, from coming in" according to M. Zuhdi Jasser, Founder and President of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy.



History proves that Israel is often held to a double standard, and this case is no different. Virtually every nation bars entry to those who wish it harm, yet it’s an international incident when Israel does it. Applicants for visas to the United States, for example, are asked questions about their political views and activities. The US Patriot Act allows the Secretary of State to bar admission to the United States to “any alien whose entry or proposed activities in the United States the Secretary of State has reasonable grounds to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States.” The list of people barred or excluded from the United States has included Irish politician Gerry Adams, British singer Yusuf Islam (formerly Cat Stevens) and Austrian diplomat Kurt Waldheim…………and none of them supported movements advocating the destruction of the United States.



The U.S. has also barred democratically elected Israeli legislators under the Obama Administration and in 2005, Narendra Modi (now India's Prime Minister) was to visit New York and address a rally for Indian-Americans in Madison Square Garden but the visit never happened. The State Department argued that, having failed to stop deadly riots years earlier in which Hindus killed Muslims in Gujarat (where he was the top official at the time) Modi shouldn't be allowed into the US.



In short, the current outrage and disingenuous claims that this is not how allies treat each other is really just another double standard against Israel. What principle of democracy states that you have to issue visas to foreigners who are actively engaged in efforts to harm your citizens or annihilate your country? This is all the more offensive given that Israel is the only true democracy in the Middle East where Arabs are free, can vote and can live in peace. Israel does not have to prove its commitment to freedom of speech by allowing foreigners into its country who want to exploit that liberty to propagandize against the state and advocate measures to undermine its democracy and seek its destruction.

(full article online)

The last word on the Ilhan/Tliab controversy

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Newly Elected Muslim Congresswomen Favor Eliminating Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is just manipulation of the facts at hand.

Israel never claimed the resolution 181 proposed borders and do not accept the '67 borders that are not really borders.

(COMMENT)

Israel accepted under Part ONE Sections "B" "C" "D" And under the Direction of the Palestine Commission, would have accepted the Annex I Delimitations. However, the Arab League Aggressors prevented activations of Part TWO - "B" The Jewish State (Related to the Previous question about the possibility of a "Jewish" State.
That is right. The actual borders that were agreed upon by treaty that pertain to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip are set by Treaty.

◈ Relative to the West Bank → The Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty (1994) • Article 3
The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein.
The boundary, as set out in Annex I (a), is the permanent, secure and recognized international boundary between Jordan and Israel, without prejudice to the status of any territories that came under Israeli military government control in 1967.

◈ Relative to the Gaza Strip → Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty (26 March 1979) • Article II
The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel: Recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace.​

........
Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: Newly Elected Muslim Congresswomen Favor Eliminating Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is just manipulation of the facts at hand.

Israel never claimed the resolution 181 proposed borders and do not accept the '67 borders that are not really borders.

(COMMENT)

Israel accepted under Part ONE Sections "B" "C" "D" And under the Direction of the Palestine Commission, would have accepted the Annex I Delimitations. However, the Arab League Aggressors prevented activations of Part TWO - "B" The Jewish State (Related to the Previous question about the possibility of a "Jewish" State.
That is right. The actual borders that were agreed upon by treaty that pertain to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip are set by Treaty.

◈ Relative to the West Bank → The Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty (1994) • Article 3
The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein.
The boundary, as set out in Annex I (a), is the permanent, secure and recognized international boundary between Jordan and Israel, without prejudice to the status of any territories that came under Israeli military government control in 1967.

◈ Relative to the Gaza Strip → Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty (26 March 1979) • Article II
The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel: Recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace.​

........View attachment 277166
Most Respectfully,
R

Please take this discussion to the right thread. Thank you.
Tinmore is simply doing what he always does. Take over all the threads as if they were just one.

 

[Sixties Fan]

During a press conference in the wake of their ban, Tlaib cried as she complained about the Israeli checkpoints she passed through during a previous visit, which were instituted in response to a large-scale, organized Palestinian terror campaign called the “intifada,” through which scores of Jewish Israelis were murdered indiscriminately.

Why did Tlaib refuse to mention WHY Israel needs these security measures? Why did she omit any mention of the Palestinian terror Israel is confronted with on a near daily basis?

It’s time to set the congresswomen straight.

(full article online)

WATCH: How Rashida Tlaib Refuses to Tell the Truth About Israeli ‘Checkpoints’

 

[Sixties Fan]

Tlaib Blames Israel for Muslim Honor Killings