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No Negotiations Until Federal Gov Opens

Shutdown Day 17: White House, Dems disagree on definition of ‘negotiating’

seems to me that they couldn't negotiate so that's why it was shut down. why is reopening it going to change anything?

in any event, what i don't understand is back in 2006 hillary, obama and many on the left said yes, walls are needed. they just didn't want a LONG wall that stretched out in areas where it doesn't make sense. use drones and technology to also supplement this.

so why not go back to what they wanted in 2006 and say "we'll compromise and do this" - around 700-1000 miles of walls *and* technology THEN we follow up by working on DACA and why immigration got to be such a hassle next.

instead we've put ourselves in a collective position where we simply refuse anything but what we want, even if we don't want it but only NOW want it cause *THEY* DON'T want it. whatever it is.

our government's collective mental age is around 8.
Any agreement that doesn't have DACA instituted FIRST is a fool's errand. Trump simply can not be trusted
nope, border wall first. the left already renegged once under Reagan. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. And it ain't happening that way ever again. you really are an evil person aren't you. compulsive as well, your way or no way type.
LOL
Trump reneged last month.
how?

Damn, dude. You honestly don't remember?


Trump agreed to a clean CR with both houses of Congress. They delivered with full bipartisan support.

He refused to sign it.
You see, I see your confusion. the media told you that. the fact is, it never happened. sorry child! feel free to post the link.
 
please list any time kavanaugh was shown to have a drinking problem.
Other than when he admitted it?
that he drank in college? even "a lot"? lord we're all alcoholics then, huh?

give me examples of how his "drinking problems" affected him or his work in his adult life.

i'm pretty fucking sure you wouldn't want to be judged by the same metrics you fling on others.
Whoah, that was a quick lane change. Settle down , you asked. A simple yes or no would have sufficed.
it's not a "lane change".

its getting tired of people making shit up about others to suit their views of who they need someone else to be. you want to dog on kavanaugh for being an alcoholic cause he drank in college, you're being the exact asswhipe i'm referring to.
It's what I said about them, they just can't be honest.
 
The Wall was approved in 2006. Democrats refuse to release the money for it already appropriated.
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
The Wall was approved in 2006. Democrats refuse to release the money for it already appropriated.
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.
Well, too bad then. Maybe if your party didn’t spend all their time obstructing everything, dems might be more willing to compromise.
So, retaliation is the motive? Democrats are petty, small minded and vindictive. Is that what you're saying?
 
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.
Well, too bad then. Maybe if your party didn’t spend all their time obstructing everything, dems might be more willing to compromise.
So, retaliation is the motive? Democrats are petty, small minded and vindictive. Is that what you're saying?
So, retaliation is the motive? Democrats are petty, small minded and vindictive. Is that what you're saying?

^ He says with a straight face while supporting the president shutting down the govt for political leverage.
 
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.
Well, too bad then. Maybe if your party didn’t spend all their time obstructing everything, dems might be more willing to compromise.
So, retaliation is the motive? Democrats are petty, small minded and vindictive. Is that what you're saying?
So, retaliation is the motive? Democrats are petty, small minded and vindictive. Is that what you're saying?

^ He says with a straight face while supporting the president shutting down the govt for political leverage.
and blaming trump for all our problems isn't going for 'political leverage'?

why yes, yes it is.
 
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dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.
Well, too bad then. Maybe if your party didn’t spend all their time obstructing everything, dems might be more willing to compromise.
So, retaliation is the motive? Democrats are petty, small minded and vindictive. Is that what you're saying?
So, retaliation is the motive? Democrats are petty, small minded and vindictive. Is that what you're saying?

^ He says with a straight face while supporting the president shutting down the govt for political leverage.
for defending the country. damn I love it when you parrot msm.

It's obvious you don't give a shit about any victims of the crimes by illegals. but you have sympathy for government workers. Yep, we hear you loud and clear, you yelling at the victims families fk you, suck it up and shut up!!! how white of you.
 
they call him immoral, so they are actually calling themselves immoral, because everyone of them said the same thing as Trump in the past. 2006 and 2013. but fk, it's the left and they fking hate facts.
 
BTW, I'm still waiting on some actual factual information from the leftists in here. what happened to you all? why can't you post up facts? MSM own you or something?

So are you all saying the border agents manufactured the crisis at the border? is That what you're saying? Trump is but working on the behalf of those agents. So, all of your insults are really directed at them. again, what a bunch of white guys you all are.
 
Wait...now you people whine that someone called Trump NAMES?

Have you ever heard him TALK?
 
Wait...now you people whine that someone called Trump NAMES?

Have you ever heard him TALK?
LOL, dude, I give two shits you call him names. I know how fking petty and childish you all are. Rather, I'm more letting you know who you are really calling names and mocking.
 
the next time the teacher unions go on strike and close our schools, we can just tell them they are manufacturing a crisis that doesn't exist and that they are responsible for shutting down schools. It is amazing how the left have vertigo all the time.

The left love to shut down government agencies.
 
The Wall was approved in 2006. Democrats refuse to release the money for it already appropriated.
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
The Wall was approved in 2006. Democrats refuse to release the money for it already appropriated.
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.

What's the whip count, dope?

There's are four Senate Republicans now who have publicly defected. There are no doubt more.

That means there is a majority in the Senate that does not support a shutdown for a wall.
No it doesn't, moron. It only means there are more than 40.
 
The Wall was approved in 2006. Democrats refuse to release the money for it already appropriated.
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
The Wall was approved in 2006. Democrats refuse to release the money for it already appropriated.
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.

What's the whip count, dope?

There's are four Senate Republicans now who have publicly defected. There are no doubt more.

That means there is a majority in the Senate that does not support a shutdown for a wall.
what you need to ask is how many do you need to overturn a veto. I'll wait. see that's how our country operates. fk I wish you all would learn how this country functions.
 
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.

What's the whip count, dope?

There's are four Senate Republicans now who have publicly defected. There are no doubt more.

That means there is a majority in the Senate that does not support a shutdown for a wall.
No it doesn't, moron. It only means there are more than 40.

Huh?

Four Republicans voting with Dems to open the govt puts them over fifty, dope.
 
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.

What's the whip count, dope?

There's are four Senate Republicans now who have publicly defected. There are no doubt more.

That means there is a majority in the Senate that does not support a shutdown for a wall.
No it doesn't, moron. It only means there are more than 40.

Huh?

Four Republicans voting with Dems to open the govt puts them over fifty, dope.
again, bright boy, how many votes do you need? 50? are truly that stupid?
 
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
Republicans have run congress for the last ten years. They have had control of all three branches of government for the last two years. Why didn’t they release the funding?
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.

What's the whip count, dope?

There's are four Senate Republicans now who have publicly defected. There are no doubt more.

That means there is a majority in the Senate that does not support a shutdown for a wall.
what you need to ask is how many do you need to overturn a veto. I'll wait. see that's how our country operates. fk I wish you all would learn how this country functions.

I know how it functions, dope.

The Republicans are losing ground.
McConnell won't be able to hold off a vote much longer.
 
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
dude for the 1 millionth time to a fking loser leftist, trump needed nine democrats in the senate. Why don't you fking ignorant fools learn about our country before wasting everyones time in here?
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.

What's the whip count, dope?

There's are four Senate Republicans now who have publicly defected. There are no doubt more.

That means there is a majority in the Senate that does not support a shutdown for a wall.
No it doesn't, moron. It only means there are more than 40.

Huh?

Four Republicans voting with Dems to open the govt puts them over fifty, dope.
so you don't care about the victims families of crimes by illegals. you like telling them to fk off eh? so 5 billion isn't worth it to you? the equivalent of five dollars in normal budgets. wow. you really are an asshole.
 
Repugs got the drunk on the USSC with 50 votes. Maybe they don’t want the wall either.
if the republicans can get a drunken masher onto the Supreme Court with only 50 votes, why couldn’t they get their stupid wall with 51?
Because it requires 60 votes, you fucking dumbass.

What's the whip count, dope?

There's are four Senate Republicans now who have publicly defected. There are no doubt more.

That means there is a majority in the Senate that does not support a shutdown for a wall.
No it doesn't, moron. It only means there are more than 40.

Huh?

Four Republicans voting with Dems to open the govt puts them over fifty, dope.
again, bright boy, how many votes do you need? 50? are truly that stupid?

I never said they did, retard
 

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