Number of guns in society falling sharply

[Unkotare]

Big difference between a spur of the moment act of bravery and deliberately taking a suicidal action in a war you already know is lost.

And of course you are ignoring the German suicide squadrons that in your ignorance you had never heard of, as expected.

 

[Unkotare]

Generally, the guys at the Alamo were a bunch of asshole slave holders who were trying to steal land from Mexico.

Nothing sympathetic about them at all.

Ah, so due to the convenience of your fundamental hatred of America, you get to "cherry pick" what is and is not "the West" to suit your racist stereotypes.


Feel free to stop digging anytime...

 

[JoeB131]

Big difference between a spur of the moment act of bravery and deliberately taking a suicidal action in a war you already know is lost.

And of course you are ignoring the German suicide squadrons that in your ignorance you had never heard of, as expected.

Never heard of them becasue they were probably so unusual, it would take a google search and a hunting dog to find them.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Now, great culture, wonderful people, but they don't see suicide the way Americans see it.

Americans see self-sacrifice for the good of country, unit, buddy, or family to be heroic just like every other warrior society always has. "Death before dishonor" is an admired sentiment among American fighting men and women to this day. We have expressions about 'falling on one's sword' that reflect the long history of such sentiment in Western culture. Declaring oneself ready to take a bullet for someone is the ultimate expression of loyalty IN AMERICA - TODAY. Soldiers who throw themselves on a live grenade or other explosive (as has sadly happened many times in recent wars) sacrificing themselves and saving their fellows are rightly considered heroes, not sinners. Wonder why so many Congressional Medals of Honor are awarded posthumously? Remember the battle at Thermopylae? Bunker Hill? The Battle of the Bulge? The list could go on and on.

You are wrong, and you are an ignorant, racist fuckhole.

Yeah, the list can go on, but if these were your best examples, you are kind of losing the argument.

Big difference between a spur of the moment act of bravery and deliberately taking a suicidal action in a war you already know is lost.

More to the point, the fact is, Japan does have the HIGHEST SUICIDE RATE amongst industrialized countries. No one else here is really disputing this. The grownups are discussing the role of guns in this matter.

No, not all of us are only discussing guns role, which have no 'role' since they are an inanimate object, and as the Japan example indicates, guns are merely the tool, while the intent is to do self-harm.

You also ignore the other industrialized nations with gun restrictions that have higher suicide rates.

All of which is irrelevant to your opinion since you got it out of a fascist cereal box and simply defend it rhetorically the best you can whether you have to lie, distract, change the subject or just whine.

 

[JoeB131]

Generally, the guys at the Alamo were a bunch of asshole slave holders who were trying to steal land from Mexico.

Nothing sympathetic about them at all.

Ah, so due to the convenience of your fundamental hatred of America, you get to "cherry pick" what is and is not "the West" to suit your racist stereotypes.


Feel free to stop digging anytime...

The thing is, the folks at the Alamo didn't "commit suicide". They were straight up murdered because Santa Ana didn't treat them like prisoners of war. Not that this was a bad thing, they were assholes.

So it's not even a good comparison.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Big difference between a spur of the moment act of bravery and deliberately taking a suicidal action in a war you already know is lost.

And of course you are ignoring the German suicide squadrons that in your ignorance you had never heard of, as expected.

Never heard of them becasue they were probably so unusual, it would take a google search and a hunting dog to find them.

Or, more likely, you are just a deliberately ignorant dickhead.

 

[JoeB131]

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No, not all of us are only discussing guns role, which have no 'role' since they are an inanimate object, and as the Japan example indicates, guns are merely the tool, while the intent is to do self-harm.

You also ignore the other industrialized nations with gun restrictions that have higher suicide rates.

All of which is irrelevant to your opinion since you got it out of a fascist cereal box and simply defend it rhetorically the best you can whether you have to lie, distract, change the subject or just whine.

Frankly, you're like a crazy person, so whatever you are discussing is dependent on what drugs haven't kicked in yet.

We have too many suicides and too many murders, because we have too many guns. You know it as well as I do. You just can't give up your fetish, like the fat person stuffing the twinkie in his mouth.

 

[Unkotare]

Big difference between a spur of the moment act of bravery and deliberately taking a suicidal action in a war you already know is lost.

And of course you are ignoring the German suicide squadrons that in your ignorance you had never heard of, as expected.

Never heard of them becasue they were probably so unusual, it would take a google search and a hunting dog to find them.

No, you never heard of them because you are an uneducated, ignorant douchebag who clings to his racist stereotypes like a security blanket.

 

[Unkotare]

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No, not all of us are only discussing guns role, which have no 'role' since they are an inanimate object, and as the Japan example indicates, guns are merely the tool, while the intent is to do self-harm.

You also ignore the other industrialized nations with gun restrictions that have higher suicide rates.

All of which is irrelevant to your opinion since you got it out of a fascist cereal box and simply defend it rhetorically the best you can whether you have to lie, distract, change the subject or just whine.

Frankly, you're like a crazy person, so whatever you are discussing is dependent on what drugs haven't kicked in yet.

How many logical fallacies are you going to throw out in a vain attempt to cover your shameful retreat, loser?

 

[JimBowie1958]

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No, not all of us are only discussing guns role, which have no 'role' since they are an inanimate object, and as the Japan example indicates, guns are merely the tool, while the intent is to do self-harm.

You also ignore the other industrialized nations with gun restrictions that have higher suicide rates.

All of which is irrelevant to your opinion since you got it out of a fascist cereal box and simply defend it rhetorically the best you can whether you have to lie, distract, change the subject or just whine.

Frankly, you're like a crazy person, so whatever you are discussing is dependent on what drugs haven't kicked in yet.

We have too many suicides and too many murders, because we have too many guns. You know it as well as I do.

No, there is no causal link between guns and suicide as has been shown to you repeatedly. You just come up with some lame rational for tossing the contrary data out, like a typical fascist.

And I know that guns are better for a society, no one can ever keep them out of the hands of criminals, and that you are a fucking liar.

You just can't give up your fetish, like the fat person stuffing the twinkie in his mouth.

Or you stuffing dicks in your mouth.

 

[JoeB131]

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No, not all of us are only discussing guns role, which have no 'role' since they are an inanimate object, and as the Japan example indicates, guns are merely the tool, while the intent is to do self-harm.

You also ignore the other industrialized nations with gun restrictions that have higher suicide rates.

All of which is irrelevant to your opinion since you got it out of a fascist cereal box and simply defend it rhetorically the best you can whether you have to lie, distract, change the subject or just whine.

Frankly, you're like a crazy person, so whatever you are discussing is dependent on what drugs haven't kicked in yet.

How many logical fallacies are you going to throw out in a vain attempt to cover your shameful retreat, loser?

There's no retreat here at all, guy.

One of the Whacks said that Japan had 4 times the suicides the US had, when in fact, they had less in raw numbers, a little more in per capita numbers, and of course, a society where suicide is considered sort of acceptable.

 

[JimBowie1958]

And of course you are ignoring the German suicide squadrons that in your ignorance you had never heard of, as expected.

Never heard of them becasue they were probably so unusual, it would take a google search and a hunting dog to find them.

No, you never heard of them because you are an uneducated, ignorant douchebag who clings to his racist stereotypes like a security blanket.

You forgot 'lying piece of shit' in there. Lets be thorough.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Frankly, you're like a crazy person, so whatever you are discussing is dependent on what drugs haven't kicked in yet.

How many logical fallacies are you going to throw out in a vain attempt to cover your shameful retreat, loser?

There's no retreat here at all, guy.

One of the Whacks said that Japan had 4 times the suicides the US had, when in fact, they had less in raw numbers, a little more in per capita numbers, and of course, a society where suicide is considered sort of acceptable.

And, regardless of their cultural beliefs, and following the fact that Japan has very few guns, DEMONSTRATE THAT GUNS DO NOT CAUSE SUICIDE.

You fucking liar.

 

[Unkotare]

Generally, the guys at the Alamo were a bunch of asshole slave holders who were trying to steal land from Mexico.

Nothing sympathetic about them at all.

Ah, so due to the convenience of your fundamental hatred of America, you get to "cherry pick" what is and is not "the West" to suit your racist stereotypes.


Feel free to stop digging anytime...

The thing is, the folks at the Alamo didn't "commit suicide". They were straight up murdered because Santa Ana didn't treat them like prisoners of war. Not that this was a bad thing, they were assholes.

So it's not even a good comparison.

They knew what was in store, they knew what they were in for, and they fought to the death - in 'da West.'


Go ahead, keep proving yourself wrong, asshole. Btw, your fundamental hatred for America is NOT a 'Get out of Being Completely Fucking Wrong' card, so stop trying to play it like one. You're an ignorant bigot and the best thing you could do for yourself now is to STFU and go find another argument, but as I noted, you lack the character and intelligence to do so.

 

[JoeB131]

How many logical fallacies are you going to throw out in a vain attempt to cover your shameful retreat, loser?

There's no retreat here at all, guy.

One of the Whacks said that Japan had 4 times the suicides the US had, when in fact, they had less in raw numbers, a little more in per capita numbers, and of course, a society where suicide is considered sort of acceptable.

And, regardless of their cultural beliefs, and following the fact that Japan has very few guns, DEMONSTRATE THAT GUNS DO NOT CAUSE SUICIDE.

You fucking liar.

No one ever said they caused sucides.

They just make suicides easier, by virtue of the fact we had 19,000 gun suicides last year.

 

[Unkotare]

and of course, a society where suicide is considered sort of acceptable.

NO, it is considered a terrible, mistaken choice that people sometimes make out of illness, fear, desperation, or hopelessness, just as it is considered here.

 

[JoeB131]

Ah, so due to the convenience of your fundamental hatred of America, you get to "cherry pick" what is and is not "the West" to suit your racist stereotypes.


Feel free to stop digging anytime...

The thing is, the folks at the Alamo didn't "commit suicide". They were straight up murdered because Santa Ana didn't treat them like prisoners of war. Not that this was a bad thing, they were assholes.

So it's not even a good comparison.

They knew what was in store, they knew what they were in for, and they fought to the death - in 'da West.'

Go ahead, keep proving yourself wrong, asshole. Btw, your fundamental hatred for America is NOT a 'Get out of Being Completely Fucking Wrong' card, so stop trying to play it like one. You're an ignorant bigot and the best thing you could do for yourself now is to STFU and go find another argument, but as I noted, you lack the character and intelligence to do so.

Yawn, guy, you really need to see someone about your anger management. Most people avoid talking to you because you have serious problems.

But to the point, sorry, man, you need to talk to the wingnuts who said Japanese commit more suicides than Americans do, and even exaggerate the numbers.

And it's not hating America to point out that we have a lot in our history that is downright embarrassing. There was nothing in the Alamo to be proud of. A bunch of slave-holding terrorists launched a war against the legitimate government of Texas.

The problem, of course, was that Santa Ana was kind of a twit.

 

[skookerasbil]

Newly released study from Harvard concludes with certitude........


more guns = less crimes



Does Owning Guns Reduce Crime?




The gun grabber k00ks lose............

 

[JoeB131]

Are you some kind of OCD retard, Skooby?

 

[skookerasbil]

Are you some kind of OCD retard, Skooby?

Perhaps........but a winning one s0n!!!


And posting up this research that devastates the k00k gun grabbers sure is a hoot!!