Nunes' Dud Memo may have strengthened Mueller's Quest

[asaratis]

I knew you wouldn't get it. There is little hope for you in reading comprehension.

Go to bed......

Go to hell.

 

[KeiserC]

Given the anti-climatic environment that this Nunes memo has caused, and given the rush by several high ranking republicans (Ryan, Gowdy, et al) to assure us that the Nunes' fiasco has NOTHING to do with impugning the Mueller investigation, this past couple of days may have actually helped cement the carrying on of this investigative quest.......

WH spokespeople (and AG Session himself) have confirmed that Rosenstein is FIRMLY in his position and Trump appointed FBI director, Wray is also not threatened..........One has to wonder if this Nunes' "nothing burger" was really worth all the hoopla that it caused.

No doubt, trump finds himself in a corner.....debating the "power" he has to fire folks at will.....BUT, being cautioned that exercising that "power" would be a death knell for his administration.

Tip of the iceberg my friend... Wishful thinking is so wonderful, absent reality...

“Tip of The Iceberg” – FISA Intelligence Memo is Just The Beginning, Not The End – True Pundit

White House says Trump's legal team supports a second special counsel to probe FBI, DOJ

 

[nat4900]

Tip of the iceberg my friend... Wishful thinking is so wonderful, absent reality...

“Tip of The Iceberg” – FISA Intelligence Memo is Just The Beginning, Not The End – True Pundit

LOL

Kremlin-linked network amplifies 'alt-right' media - USA Today
Breitbart, other 'alt-right' websites are the darlings of Russian propaganda effort
Aug 24, 2017 - The websites — which include True Pundit, the Gateway Pundit and Imperialist U — are regular features on the list of “Top Domains” pushed by a network of 600 Twitter accounts followed by ... “Of course, we have no connection to the Russians nor have we ever had any contact with any Russian officials.”.

 

[sartre play]

Only a blithering , braindead idiot would claim that the memo was "nothing". It's only the biggest exposure of corruption that makes Watergate pale in comparison and more is coming.

Ok idiot, lets put that to the test.



Make a testable prediction on what will happen as a result of this memo.

More information is going to be released. The memo and the 99 page release with redactions of names shows that the DOJ, FISA courts and the FBI were weaponized to keep the status quo of the deep state.

BTW, step lightly when you call someone that knows infinitely more than you an "idiot", punkinpuss.

Who is in the deep state?

Who heads the Deep state and for what end purpose?

Are they a bunch of people who don't even know each other or do they have secret society meetings off site to coordinate their actions to achieve their goal?

And again what is their goal? Do they get paid extra money by the deep state head, to clandestantly follow this head and do illegal things for them?

Who is behind the scenes controlling this Deep State's Mission? Are there different levels of authority within this deep state?

quote) Can only find one person who used that term deep state in a reply to a question, it sounded good so it was picked up & now used as a negative throw away line???? my best guess.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I knew you wouldn't get it. There is little hope for you in reading comprehension.

Go to bed......

Go to hell.

The only reason Trump hasn't ended the investigation is because he does not have the power to do so.

 

[asaratis]

Only a blithering , braindead idiot would claim that the memo was "nothing". It's only the biggest exposure of corruption that makes Watergate pale in comparison and more is coming.

Ok idiot, lets put that to the test.



Make a testable prediction on what will happen as a result of this memo.

More information is going to be released. The memo and the 99 page release with redactions of names shows that the DOJ, FISA courts and the FBI were weaponized to keep the status quo of the deep state.

BTW, step lightly when you call someone that knows infinitely more than you an "idiot", punkinpuss.

Who is in the deep state?

Who heads the Deep state and for what end purpose?

Are they a bunch of people who don't even know each other or do they have secret society meetings off site to coordinate their actions to achieve their goal?

And again what is their goal? Do they get paid extra money by the deep state head, to clandestantly follow this head and do illegal things for them?

Who is behind the scenes controlling this Deep State's Mission? Are there different levels of authority within this deep state?

Rosenstein -- Agent of the Deep State Coup

Deep state in the United States - Wikipedia

Deep state was defined in 2014 by Mike Lofgren, a former Republican U.S. congressional aide, as "a hybrid association of elements of government and parts of top-level finance and industry that is effectively able to govern the United States without reference to the consent of the governed as expressed through the formal political process."[6][7] It has become a key concept of the "alt right" movement as expressed by Steve Bannon and Sean Hannity. [8][9]


You're welcome.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Only a blithering , braindead idiot would claim that the memo was "nothing". It's only the biggest exposure of corruption that makes Watergate pale in comparison and more is coming.

Ok idiot, lets put that to the test.



Make a testable prediction on what will happen as a result of this memo.

More information is going to be released. The memo and the 99 page release with redactions of names shows that the DOJ, FISA courts and the FBI were weaponized to keep the status quo of the deep state.

BTW, step lightly when you call someone that knows infinitely more than you an "idiot", punkinpuss.

Who is in the deep state?

Who heads the Deep state and for what end purpose?

Are they a bunch of people who don't even know each other or do they have secret society meetings off site to coordinate their actions to achieve their goal?

And again what is their goal? Do they get paid extra money by the deep state head, to clandestantly follow this head and do illegal things for them?

Who is behind the scenes controlling this Deep State's Mission? Are there different levels of authority within this deep state?

Rosenstein -- Agent of the Deep State Coup

Deep state in the United States - Wikipedia

Deep state was defined in 2014 by Mike Lofgren, a former Republican U.S. congressional aide, as "a hybrid association of elements of government and parts of top-level finance and industry that is effectively able to govern the United States without reference to the consent of the governed as expressed through the formal political process."[6][7] It has become a key concept of the "alt right" movement as expressed by Steve Bannon and Sean Hannity. [8][9]


You're welcome.

What fool wrote that? Here's a book with Deep State in its title, from 2013: https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Government-Secrecy-Industry/dp/1118146689&tag=ff0d01-20

 

[Faun]

Did you somehow think I said Obama played fairer with facts that the Oranguton and W?

The difference is Trump may have made promises to Vlad. That's not ok.

I believe you have the players confused. Obama promised Vlad (via the Russian representative with him at the hot mic) that he would "have more flexibility after the election". This is a known FACT. You want to deny that one also?

So what, if he did that? He was the president and had the full authority of the United States behind him.

Trump did not.

....and has not let Russia off the hook since becoming President....like the asshole Obama did.

Liar.

Trump administration holds off on new Russia sanctions, despite law

But that’s not the point. The point is that it was legal for Obama to negotiate with Putin. Whereas if Trump did while Obama was president, that’s illegal.

That is quite different from selling them uranium facilities.

Who sold them Uranium facilities?

 

[KeiserC]

Tip of the iceberg my friend... Wishful thinking is so wonderful, absent reality...

“Tip of The Iceberg” – FISA Intelligence Memo is Just The Beginning, Not The End – True Pundit

LOL

Kremlin-linked network amplifies 'alt-right' media - USA Today
Breitbart, other 'alt-right' websites are the darlings of Russian propaganda effort
Aug 24, 2017 - The websites — which include True Pundit, the Gateway Pundit and Imperialist U — are regular features on the list of “Top Domains” pushed by a network of 600 Twitter accounts followed by ... “Of course, we have no connection to the Russians nor have we ever had any contact with any Russian officials.”.

Time will tell... You know that the OP's assertion is subjective... right? Therefore our diametrically opposite views and opinions on this issue are inherently subjective as well.

 

[Faun]

I think Mueller's obstruction list got longer when the memo came out. Nunes can be added to it. The Russian investigation will go on for at least three more months, with the interview of the Great One as one of the culminating events. I hope it is televised. I have never seen orange sweat before.

 

[Faun]

Of course we know why he fired Comey — he said so himself.

This is what Trump said HIMSELF.....

"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job ……I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

I've already asked you for a CREDIBLE link to that claim. You gave me four shithole liberal shills. Either post a credible link...or a VIDEO. I will respond to either.

“And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story,’ ”

 

[asaratis]

I believe you have the players confused. Obama promised Vlad (via the Russian representative with him at the hot mic) that he would "have more flexibility after the election". This is a known FACT. You want to deny that one also?

So what, if he did that? He was the president and had the full authority of the United States behind him.

Trump did not.

....and has not let Russia off the hook since becoming President....like the asshole Obama did.

Liar.

Trump administration holds off on new Russia sanctions, despite law

But that’s not the point. The point is that it was legal for Obama to negotiate with Putin. Whereas if Tr ump did while Obama was president, that’s illegal.

That is quite different from selling them uranium facilities.

Who sold them Uranium facilities?

The sale by the owner was approved by the Obama administration, spearheaded by the State Department, enabled by Hillary Clinton. Clinton received hundreds of millions of dollars (via the Clinton Crime Family Foundation) from Russian companies affiliated with the deal.

Clinton’s role in the Uranium One sale, and the link to the Clinton Foundation, first became an issue in 2015, when news organizations received advance copies of the book “Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich,” by Peter Schweizer, a former fellow at a conservative think tank.

On April 23, 2015, the New York Times wrote about the uranium issue, saying the paper had “built upon” Schweizer’s information.

The Times detailed how the Clinton Foundation had received millions in donations from investors in Uranium One.

The donations from those with ties to Uranium One weren’t publicly disclosed by the Clinton Foundation, even though Hillary Clinton had an agreement with the White House that the foundation would disclose all contributors. Days after the Times story, the foundation acknowledged that it “made mistakes,” saying it had disclosed donations from a Canadian charity, for instance, but not the donors to that charity who were associated with the uranium company.

The Times also wrote that Bill Clinton spoke at a conference in Moscow on June 29, 2010 — which was after the Rosatom-Uranium One merger was announced in June 2010, but before it was approved by the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States in October 2010. The Russian-based Renaissance Capital Group organized the conference and paid Clinton $500,000.

Renaissance Capital has “ties to the Kremlin” and its analysts “talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a ‘buy’ rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was ‘the best play’ in the uranium markets,” the Times wrote.

But there is no evidence that the donations or the speaking fee had any influence on the approvals granted by the NRC or the Committee on Foreign Investments.

 

[Faun]

So what, if he did that? He was the president and had the full authority of the United States behind him.

Trump did not.

....and has not let Russia off the hook since becoming President....like the asshole Obama did.

Liar.

Trump administration holds off on new Russia sanctions, despite law

But that’s not the point. The point is that it was legal for Obama to negotiate with Putin. Whereas if Tr ump did while Obama was president, that’s illegal.

That is quite different from selling them uranium facilities.

Who sold them Uranium facilities?

The sale by the owner was approved by the Obama administration, spearheaded by the State Department, enabled by Hillary Clinton. Clinton received hundreds of millions of dollars (via the Clinton Crime Family Foundation) from Russian companies affiliated with the deal.

Clinton’s role in the Uranium One sale, and the link to the Clinton Foundation, first became an issue in 2015, when news organizations received advance copies of the book “Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich,” by Peter Schweizer, a former fellow at a conservative think tank.

On April 23, 2015, the New York Times wrote about the uranium issue, saying the paper had “built upon” Schweizer’s information.

The Times detailed how the Clinton Foundation had received millions in donations from investors in Uranium One.

The donations from those with ties to Uranium One weren’t publicly disclosed by the Clinton Foundation, even though Hillary Clinton had an agreement with the White House that the foundation would disclose all contributors. Days after the Times story, the foundation acknowledged that it “made mistakes,” saying it had disclosed donations from a Canadian charity, for instance, but not the donors to that charity who were associated with the uranium company.

The Times also wrote that Bill Clinton spoke at a conference in Moscow on June 29, 2010 — which was after the Rosatom-Uranium One merger was announced in June 2010, but before it was approved by the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States in October 2010. The Russian-based Renaissance Capital Group organized the conference and paid Clinton $500,000.

Renaissance Capital has “ties to the Kremlin” and its analysts “talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a ‘buy’ rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was ‘the best play’ in the uranium markets,” the Times wrote.

But there is no evidence that the donations or the speaking fee had any influence on the approvals granted by the NRC or the Committee on Foreign Investments.

Great, thanks for confirming neither Obama nor Hillary sold anyone any uranium facilities. That's why it made no sense when you said, "that is quite different from selling them uranium facilities."

 

[KeiserC]

I thought that this was a 'Muller' / 'FISA (Nunes) memo' / 'its affect or effect on the case'... Thread???

 

[mudwhistle]

the carter page FISA Warrant BEGAN the month AFTER HE LEFT the Trump campaign, and NOT while he was on the campaign team....

FOX is LYING TO YOU, the warrant was not to spy through surveillance on Carter...the Trump Campaign team, Carter Paige was no longer a part of it, he was forced to resign back in September....30 or so days earlier than the warrant

your god/president is lying too....

I'd like to know what he is working overtime on, to hide? Don't any of you Trumpettes want to know?

Yep.....BTW, what was Schiff and the FBI trying to HIDE when they fought tooth and nail to keep the FISA memo from being released?

Leon Panetta describe the situation pretty well. This memo shows a breakdown in our national security processes, where our enemies will see this as a weakness.
Also, since Nunes was part of Trump campaign, he can hardly operate as an unbiased source in his position. The job Nunes is doing should be done by somebody without conflict of interest.

Sorry, but there is nobody that the Democrats won't think/accuse of having a conflict of interest.....so there's that.
We're dealing with dishonesty from the left. They decided to resist because of this made-up story of Russian Collusion....so there you go.

 

[Care4all]

Only a blithering , braindead idiot would claim that the memo was "nothing". It's only the biggest exposure of corruption that makes Watergate pale in comparison and more is coming.

Ok idiot, lets put that to the test.



Make a testable prediction on what will happen as a result of this memo.

More information is going to be released. The memo and the 99 page release with redactions of names shows that the DOJ, FISA courts and the FBI were weaponized to keep the status quo of the deep state.

BTW, step lightly when you call someone that knows infinitely more than you an "idiot", punkinpuss.

Who is in the deep state?

Who heads the Deep state and for what end purpose?

Are they a bunch of people who don't even know each other or do they have secret society meetings off site to coordinate their actions to achieve their goal?

And again what is their goal? Do they get paid extra money by the deep state head, to clandestantly follow this head and do illegal things for them?

Who is behind the scenes controlling this Deep State's Mission? Are there different levels of authority within this deep state?

Rosenstein -- Agent of the Deep State Coup

Deep state in the United States - Wikipedia

Deep state was defined in 2014 by Mike Lofgren, a former Republican U.S. congressional aide, as "a hybrid association of elements of government and parts of top-level finance and industry that is effectively able to govern the United States without reference to the consent of the governed as expressed through the formal political process."[6][7] It has become a key concept of the "alt right" movement as expressed by Steve Bannon and Sean Hannity. [8][9]


You're welcome.

that didn't tell me a thing.... who runs it, what is the purpose, etc etc etc etc etc.... name names....and the chain of command.... not some fairy tale entity...or sector...

how long has it been going on? have those who started it, died and passed onward?

every organization, even the mafia, has a head....?

 

[mudwhistle]

....and has not let Russia off the hook since becoming President....like the asshole Obama did.

Liar.

Trump administration holds off on new Russia sanctions, despite law

But that’s not the point. The point is that it was legal for Obama to negotiate with Putin. Whereas if Tr ump did while Obama was president, that’s illegal.

That is quite different from selling them uranium facilities.

Who sold them Uranium facilities?

The sale by the owner was approved by the Obama administration, spearheaded by the State Department, enabled by Hillary Clinton. Clinton received hundreds of millions of dollars (via the Clinton Crime Family Foundation) from Russian companies affiliated with the deal.

Clinton’s role in the Uranium One sale, and the link to the Clinton Foundation, first became an issue in 2015, when news organizations received advance copies of the book “Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich,” by Peter Schweizer, a former fellow at a conservative think tank.

On April 23, 2015, the New York Times wrote about the uranium issue, saying the paper had “built upon” Schweizer’s information.

The Times detailed how the Clinton Foundation had received millions in donations from investors in Uranium One.

The donations from those with ties to Uranium One weren’t publicly disclosed by the Clinton Foundation, even though Hillary Clinton had an agreement with the White House that the foundation would disclose all contributors. Days after the Times story, the foundation acknowledged that it “made mistakes,” saying it had disclosed donations from a Canadian charity, for instance, but not the donors to that charity who were associated with the uranium company.

The Times also wrote that Bill Clinton spoke at a conference in Moscow on June 29, 2010 — which was after the Rosatom-Uranium One merger was announced in June 2010, but before it was approved by the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States in October 2010. The Russian-based Renaissance Capital Group organized the conference and paid Clinton $500,000.

Renaissance Capital has “ties to the Kremlin” and its analysts “talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a ‘buy’ rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was ‘the best play’ in the uranium markets,” the Times wrote.

But there is no evidence that the donations or the speaking fee had any influence on the approvals granted by the NRC or the Committee on Foreign Investments.

Great, thanks for confirming neither Obama nor Hillary sold anyone any uranium facilities. That's why it made no sense when you said, "that is quite different from selling them uranium facilities."

Nope.....uranium mining stakes. Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

Nice try though.

 

[KeiserC]

Only a blithering , braindead idiot would claim that the memo was "nothing". It's only the biggest exposure of corruption that makes Watergate pale in comparison and more is coming.

Ok idiot, lets put that to the test.



Make a testable prediction on what will happen as a result of this memo.

More information is going to be released. The memo and the 99 page release with redactions of names shows that the DOJ, FISA courts and the FBI were weaponized to keep the status quo of the deep state.

BTW, step lightly when you call someone that knows infinitely more than you an "idiot", punkinpuss.

Who is in the deep state?

Who heads the Deep state and for what end purpose?

Are they a bunch of people who don't even know each other or do they have secret society meetings off site to coordinate their actions to achieve their goal?

And again what is their goal? Do they get paid extra money by the deep state head, to clandestantly follow this head and do illegal things for them?

Who is behind the scenes controlling this Deep State's Mission? Are there different levels of authority within this deep state?

Rosenstein -- Agent of the Deep State Coup

Deep state in the United States - Wikipedia

Deep state was defined in 2014 by Mike Lofgren, a former Republican U.S. congressional aide, as "a hybrid association of elements of government and parts of top-level finance and industry that is effectively able to govern the United States without reference to the consent of the governed as expressed through the formal political process."[6][7] It has become a key concept of the "alt right" movement as expressed by Steve Bannon and Sean Hannity. [8][9]


You're welcome.

that didn't tell me a thing.... who runs it, what is the purpose, etc etc etc etc etc.... name names....and the chain of command.... not some fairy tale entity...or sector...

how long has it been going on? have those who started it, died and passed onward?

every organization, even the mafia, has a head....?

Fair point Xena, Who or Whom, Is or Are the head of it... ? We know some of the characters (thus far) mostly represented by the FBI, former DOJ, DNC. On the flip side, probably not the CIA. Anyone who claims to know at this point is full of Sheite. Not even Congress or this Administration really know 1/2 the story....YET. This doesn't mean that some of the cards of the 'Deep State' haven't been uncovered...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

the carter page FISA Warrant BEGAN the month AFTER HE LEFT the Trump campaign, and NOT while he was on the campaign team....

FOX is LYING TO YOU, the warrant was not to spy through surveillance on Carter...the Trump Campaign team, Carter Paige was no longer a part of it, he was forced to resign back in September....30 or so days earlier than the warrant

your god/president is lying too....

I'd like to know what he is working overtime on, to hide? Don't any of you Trumpettes want to know?

Yep.....BTW, what was Schiff and the FBI trying to HIDE when they fought tooth and nail to keep the FISA memo from being released?

Leon Panetta describe the situation pretty well. This memo shows a breakdown in our national security processes, where our enemies will see this as a weakness.
Also, since Nunes was part of Trump campaign, he can hardly operate as an unbiased source in his position. The job Nunes is doing should be done by somebody without conflict of interest.

Sorry, but there is nobody that the Democrats won't think/accuse of having a conflict of interest.....so there's that.
We're dealing with dishonesty from the left. They decided to resist because of this made-up story of Russian Collusion....so there you go.

You could start a thread about French poodles or medieval poetry. If Mudwhistle shows up, the thread is now about the Clintons.

 

[asaratis]

Of course we know why he fired Comey — he said so himself.

This is what Trump said HIMSELF.....

"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job ……I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

I've already asked you for a CREDIBLE link to that claim. You gave me four shithole liberal shills. Either post a credible link...or a VIDEO. I will respond to either.

“And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story,’ ”

Thanks, but the video does not prove that Trump fired Comey because of the Russia collusion investigation. That is the conclusion drawn by the NYT.

I heard him say "

....and has not let Russia off the hook since becoming President....like the asshole Obama did.

Liar.

Trump administration holds off on new Russia sanctions, despite law

But that’s not the point. The point is that it was legal for Obama to negotiate with Putin. Whereas if Tr ump did while Obama was president, that’s illegal.

That is quite different from selling them uranium facilities.

Who sold them Uranium facilities?

The sale by the owner was approved by the Obama administration, spearheaded by the State Department, enabled by Hillary Clinton. Clinton received hundreds of millions of dollars (via the Clinton Crime Family Foundation) from Russian companies affiliated with the deal.

Clinton’s role in the Uranium One sale, and the link to the Clinton Foundation, first became an issue in 2015, when news organizations received advance copies of the book “Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich,” by Peter Schweizer, a former fellow at a conservative think tank.

On April 23, 2015, the New York Times wrote about the uranium issue, saying the paper had “built upon” Schweizer’s information.

The Times detailed how the Clinton Foundation had received millions in donations from investors in Uranium One.

The donations from those with ties to Uranium One weren’t publicly disclosed by the Clinton Foundation, even though Hillary Clinton had an agreement with the White House that the foundation would disclose all contributors. Days after the Times story, the foundation acknowledged that it “made mistakes,” saying it had disclosed donations from a Canadian charity, for instance, but not the donors to that charity who were associated with the uranium company.

The Times also wrote that Bill Clinton spoke at a conference in Moscow on June 29, 2010 — which was after the Rosatom-Uranium One merger was announced in June 2010, but before it was approved by the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States in October 2010. The Russian-based Renaissance Capital Group organized the conference and paid Clinton $500,000.

Renaissance Capital has “ties to the Kremlin” and its analysts “talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a ‘buy’ rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was ‘the best play’ in the uranium markets,” the Times wrote.

But there is no evidence that the donations or the speaking fee had any influence on the approvals granted by the NRC or the Committee on Foreign Investments.

Great, thanks for confirming neither Obama nor Hillary sold anyone any uranium facilities. That's why it made no sense when you said, "that is quite different from selling them uranium facilities."

The sale required approval of several departments within the administration. Obama and Hillary made sure that the approvals were granted. They could have stopped it, but didn't. They should have stopped it, but didn't. They enabled it.