NYC Jewish communities told to shelter in place after....

Not to mention the Ottomans wanted Jews to replace the worthless draft and tax dodging 'natives' there, and encouraged several aliyahs from Russia of Jews to settle there. For some reason these Hamas and PLO terrorist supporters can't seem to find any Turkish sniveling about Jews considering the region their new homeland. The area was fought over inn a civil war with Egypt in the 1840's; they didn't call the the inhabitants 'Palestinians' either. It was 'Greater Syria' to the locals.

At the time of the Basel congress, Arabs represented 95 percent of the population of Palestine and they owned 99 percent of the land.2 Thus it was obvious from the beginning of Zionism that dispossession of the Palestinian majority, either politically or physically, would be an inevitable requirement for achieving a Jewish state. It was not only land that was needed to reach Zionism's goal, but land without another people in the majority.

Since Palestinian Arabs were by far the majority throughout the period up to Israel's establishment as a Jewish state in 1948, the Zionist state could emerge only by denying the majority its rights or by becoming the majority either through immigration or in reducing the number of Palestinians by ethnic cleansing. There was no other way to create a Jewish, rather than democratic, state.3

That the Jewish state was secured in 1948 by the expulsion of the Palestinians should have come as no surprise. Expulsion as Zionism's logical imperative was clearly seen by Herzl as early as June 12, 1895. At the time he was still formulating his ideas about Zionism and confided to his diary: "We shall try to spirit the penniless population [Palestinians] across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country. Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."4 Even if this was perhaps the fanciful imagining of a rather romantic personality, as some sympathizers of Herzl contend, its essential imperative was inescapable. This was recognized by most early Zionists, as evidenced by the fact that the theme of expulsion consistently ran through Zionist thought from the very beginning.5

For instance, as early as 1905, Israel Zangwill, an organizer of Zionism in Britain and one of Zionism's top propagandists, who had coined the slogan "a land without a people for a people without a land," acknowledged in a speech in Manchester that Palestine was not a land without people.

In fact, it was filled with Arabs: "[We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us."6 This comment came at a time when there were around 645,000 Muslims and Christians in Palestine and only 55,000 Jews, mainly non-Zionists or anti-Zionists in the Orthodox neighborhoods of Jerusalem and other cities.7

David Ben-Gurion, the man who along with Herzl and Chaim Weizmann was one of the progenitors of Israel, explicitly acknowledged the linkage between Zionism and expulsion: "Zionism is a transfer of the Jews. Regarding the transfer of the Arabs this is much easier than any other transfer."8 Or, as Israeli scholar Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi put it: "While the basic problem confronting Diaspora Jews was to survive as a minority, the basic problem of Zionism in Palestine was to dispossess the natives and become a majority."9

Much attention has been paid to how the early Zionists secured land in Palestine, but relatively little study has focused on the equally essential effort by Zionists to delegitimize and replace the Palestinian majority.10 Without Jewish control, the Zionists concluded they would be no better off than in Europe, where Zionism arose specifically as a way to escape antisemitism, pogroms, the ghetto and minority status.

As former defense minister Ariel Sharon, a leading spokesman of Zionism's right wing, has commented: "Our forefathers did not come here in order to build a democracy but to build a Jewish state."11 A similar view was recently expressed by Labor leader and Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin: "I don't believe that for 2,000 years Jews dreamed and prayed about the return to Zion to create a binational state."12 Though the terms are softer, the meaning is the same.

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At the time of the Basel congress, Arabs represented 95 percent of the population of Palestine and they owned 99 percent of the land.2 Thus it was obvious from the beginning of Zionism that dispossession of the Palestinian majority, either politically or physically, would be an inevitable requirement for achieving a Jewish state. It was not only land that was needed to reach Zionism's goal, but land without another people in the majority.

Since Palestinian Arabs were by far the majority throughout the period up to Israel's establishment as a Jewish state in 1948, the Zionist state could emerge only by denying the majority its rights or by becoming the majority either through immigration or in reducing the number of Palestinians by ethnic cleansing. There was no other way to create a Jewish, rather than democratic, state.3

That the Jewish state was secured in 1948 by the expulsion of the Palestinians should have come as no surprise. Expulsion as Zionism's logical imperative was clearly seen by Herzl as early as June 12, 1895. At the time he was still formulating his ideas about Zionism and confided to his diary: "We shall try to spirit the penniless population [Palestinians] across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country. Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."4 Even if this was perhaps the fanciful imagining of a rather romantic personality, as some sympathizers of Herzl contend, its essential imperative was inescapable. This was recognized by most early Zionists, as evidenced by the fact that the theme of expulsion consistently ran through Zionist thought from the very beginning.5

For instance, as early as 1905, Israel Zangwill, an organizer of Zionism in Britain and one of Zionism's top propagandists, who had coined the slogan "a land without a people for a people without a land," acknowledged in a speech in Manchester that Palestine was not a land without people.

In fact, it was filled with Arabs: "[We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us."6 This comment came at a time when there were around 645,000 Muslims and Christians in Palestine and only 55,000 Jews, mainly non-Zionists or anti-Zionists in the Orthodox neighborhoods of Jerusalem and other cities.7

David Ben-Gurion, the man who along with Herzl and Chaim Weizmann was one of the progenitors of Israel, explicitly acknowledged the linkage between Zionism and expulsion: "Zionism is a transfer of the Jews. Regarding the transfer of the Arabs this is much easier than any other transfer."8 Or, as Israeli scholar Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi put it: "While the basic problem confronting Diaspora Jews was to survive as a minority, the basic problem of Zionism in Palestine was to dispossess the natives and become a majority."9

Much attention has been paid to how the early Zionists secured land in Palestine, but relatively little study has focused on the equally essential effort by Zionists to delegitimize and replace the Palestinian majority.10 Without Jewish control, the Zionists concluded they would be no better off than in Europe, where Zionism arose specifically as a way to escape antisemitism, pogroms, the ghetto and minority status.

As former defense minister Ariel Sharon, a leading spokesman of Zionism's right wing, has commented: "Our forefathers did not come here in order to build a democracy but to build a Jewish state."11 A similar view was recently expressed by Labor leader and Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin: "I don't believe that for 2,000 years Jews dreamed and prayed about the return to Zion to create a binational state."12 Though the terms are softer, the meaning is the same.

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Take it up with the Brits. Arabs got over 85% of 'Palestine' in the two state solution. That is where they should move to. Gaza's declaration of war and then losing it means they get to go back home to their Motherland, or perish.
 
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Hamas has had an active unit here for at least 30 years, running propaganda operations, particularly in Philadelphia. They also ran a fake 'charity' scam, based in Dallas. See the 'Holy Land Foundation' for more on that. They target college campuses in particular, where the most gullible and stupid reside.
 
Hamas has had an active unit here for at least 30 years, running propaganda operations, particularly in Philadelphia. They also ran a fake 'charity' scam, based in Dallas. See the 'Holy Land Foundation' for more on that.
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Oh, for a second I thought you were talking about here in USMB.

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You beat me to it. The ratio is probably around 15:1.

The pro-HAMAS apologists vandalizing and stealing property, while they threaten Jews, are probably around 2000:1, if that.

Hamas has never done anything except hurt the Palestinians. Look at the Likud Charter. Same damned thing.

What bothers me is that such episodes in Gaza cause Jews in the US to "shelter in place".
 
Hamas has never done anything except hurt the Palestinians. Look at the Likud Charter. Same damned thing.

What bothers me is that such episodes in Gaza cause Jews in the US to "shelter in place".
If it bothers you, then rally against those in the U.S. that are causing the Jewish people to have to shelter in place.

Ahhhhh that's taking it a step to far for ya isn't it ??
 
If it bothers you, then rally against those in the U.S. that are causing the Jewish people to have to shelter in place.

Ahhhhh that's taking it a step to far for ya isn't it ??

I speak up freely. I don't protest in the street. What do you expect?
 
You are the guy on the corner in 'Midnight Cowboy,' aren't you, just begging for one?

That's why you are hiding behind the image of The Duke.
Whatever Midnight Cowboy is ? Begging for one ?? Is that some kind of gay movie you watch that gives you some kind of ideas about begging for one when you go out at night ? Look, don't cast your homo fantasies on other's, because that type of bird don't fly around this neck of the woods.
 
Whatever Midnight Cowboy is ? Begging for one ?? Is that some kind of gay movie you watch that gives you some kind of ideas about begging for one when you go out at night ? Look, don't cast your homo fantasies on other's, because that type of bird don't fly around this neck of the woods.
Wow. You never heard of “Midnight Cowboy”? You must be quite young. (I was only 13 when it came out and wasn’t allowed to see it, if that gives you a hint.)
 

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