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...because how else would you describe a program that would impose total SOCIALISM government control on a NATIONAL scale???
who is OAC?
Some bat shit crazy Dem from NY.
So am I, lol. So am I! A 90% NEW Federal sales tax to pay for it-) You go ahead and sell that pile of garbage. I want to watch you try-)
There will be a civil war if the left ever pass something like that. The few surviving socialists scum will flee for their lives to other countries.
I know the multi millionaires and billionaires will take up killing people. Crazy.
Why do you want to punish successful people? I'm guessing wealth envy and liberalism has rotted your brain.
The appeal to take from the rich is a timeless and universal one.
There is no fighting it.
That is the fuel for such socialists as Hitler and AOC
Does the wealth disparity in this nation concern you at all?
stop wasting our tax money on your useless wars, right wingers. stop whining about taxes. You should be Good Christians and proclaim, "it is ok, the Poor know not what they do".One representative. Is the right wing worthless and have no better solutions at lower cost?...because how else would you describe a program that would impose total SOCIALISM government control on a NATIONAL scale???
Get a job losers, pay your own damn bills and stop trying to mooch off the rest of us. There's the solution. Get up off your giant fat asses.
So am I, lol. So am I! A 90% NEW Federal sales tax to pay for it-) You go ahead and sell that pile of garbage. I want to watch you try-)
There will be a civil war if the left ever pass something like that. The few surviving socialists scum will flee for their lives to other countries.
I know the multi millionaires and billionaires will take up killing people. Crazy.
Why do you want to punish successful people? I'm guessing wealth envy and liberalism has rotted your brain.
The appeal to take from the rich is a timeless and universal one.
There is no fighting it.
That is the fuel for such socialists as Hitler and AOC
Does the wealth disparity in this nation concern you at all?
I believe she is a peon who struck gold. I do not care about her. I care about what she spouts. We are a democracy and not a republic anymore. She is retarded. People vote for free stuff. It is natural. I would not care that much but there are children being born who deserve a chance for a nation with at least some rights.Do you believe she is a national socialist, as the OP suggests?The green new deal plan is stupid. What will end up happening is totally enacted is that the "best buggy whip ever built" when technology changed to autos will return when people use horse and buggies again. At least the people remaining after the system collapses. There is nothing wrong with ideas. But the technology to do it is not here yet. At least at a low price. To put some resources into advancing technologies is prudent. We have been. And it is not moving as quickly as it is promoted for being cost conscious. Advancing building codes using more efficient A/C and Heating systems with using double paned windows and better insulation and roofing is something I would support. I would not make a homeowner suffer for selling a house without that as some progressive ideas want. Working on making solar panels much cheaper and simpler is a good idea. The green new deal will cost a hundred times more then they say at least.Looking forward to the "AOC is Hitler" posts. Always fun.
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I wouldn't compare AOC to Hitler.AlwaysWhen you sucker people into paying 15% of their wages into social security and medicare for decades you better pay off. Dump the people who never paid a dime that are collecting off those rolls. We can not even afford to pay the people who paid into the social security system off and you want to expand other things. Obamacare was a lie. Social Security and Medicare will have to increase at least a couple percent more and the age risen to collect five years to extend it as of now. Socialism comes in many packages. And we are taxed at a high rate in our nation. And it is going higher. You will not end poverty. I know it sucks. But it will not happen....because how else would you describe a program that would impose total SOCIALISM government control on a NATIONAL scale???
LOL, why do you think many, many Republicans are pushing for a vote on it. They want this in the news 24-7, while getting the Left on the record if they support it or not.
Trust me, if this crap gets to the House floor, the Republicans will push the debate as looooooong as they can, while requesting that the public let their feelings on the matter be known to them.
Now then, being THINKING individuals, every DEMOCRAT that supports this deal, when 2020 arrives and political commercials are run by Republicans, what do you think the jist of them will be-)
The Left has gone completely off the rails to quickly, and most Americans by far, are scared to death, and not just by what it would cost!
Americans are scared to death because they have no idea what she's talking about. Republicans hated "Obamacare" with a white hot passion. But when you talk to them about the Affordable Care Act, they LOVE that. Yes, Republicans are just that dumb. When you talk to conservatives about socialist programs like SS or Medicare, they are all for them. But they don't want socialism.
I'm looking forward to the discussion. Because most everyday Republicans, including YOU, haven't the vaguest idea of what socialism actually is.
When you start with a lie, you've nowhere to go but down:
Social Security and Medicare Withholding Rates. The current tax rate for social security is 6.2% for the employer and 6.2% for the employee, or 12.4% total. The current rate for Medicare is 1.45% for the employer and 1.45% for the employee, or 2.9% total.
While the total collected is 15.1%, you're only paying 7.65% of YOUR income to these taxes. Your employer is paying the rest. And if you think that your employer would pay you that additional 7.65% as part of your salary, I have a bridge in Nevada I'd like to sell you.
Americans pay the LOWEST rate of taxes in the First World. Of course the rest of the first world is paying for their health care as part of their taxes and Americans have to pay that separately. That's $18,000 a year or more for a healthy family of four, in addition to federal, state and local taxes.
The rest of us are doing all of things that Americans "can't afford". Our tax dollars are invested in health care, education, and infrastructure. Things like single payer health care for everyone. Cheap/free post secondary education. Smart countries don't have "charter schools", they build quality public schools, and they run them for far less than it costs for Americans. Last year the county dug up our street and installed all new water lines and sewers. Then they put in new curbing, and sidewalks, and paved the street, which was in rough shape. The new sidewalks drain snow and rain away from the sidewalk
Americans pay more money for health care, and get less for their money, than any nation in the world. You are the ONLY first world nation where there is no universal unfettered access to high quality health. The same is true for education. You pay more than any other country, and your education system isn't even in the top 10 in the world. But what you do have is the biggest baddest most expensive army in the world.
Massive armies are the tools of the wealthy and powerful. The American public has been duped into believing that they need the world's largest army to keep them safe. The rest of the world isn't that stupid.
The United States is the richest nation in the world. You can afford a "space force", you can send rocket ships to Mars, the world's largest, best equipped army, and 18 years of unnecessary and expensive wars. But you can't afford a decent education for a ghetto child.
Americans have decided that power and influence are their priorities. Their people are not. You have the money to do all of these things. You just don't want to give up the power and influence. And that's where your money goes.
Reading posts like these makes me think the muslim invasion of Europe is not so bad after all. Let the superior people win over those mentally not functional, even if their ways are questionable.
Speaking of that, don't you have enough troubles to sort out in your much poorer country than USA? Do that rather than attempting to pass on the terrible advice that's at the root of those problems to others.
Tax cut economics are worthless.The lower costs were jetisone many decades ago. Ask Claude Pepper and Tip O'Neill for social security and medicare. That was a socialism program at 15% to a wage earner that was supposed to be good until the 2070's. But whoa what happened? People at that time spoke up but were embarrassed as the total hate accusations were not in full regiment as of now.One representative. Is the right wing worthless and have no better solutions at lower cost?...because how else would you describe a program that would impose total SOCIALISM government control on a NATIONAL scale???
The Hitler comparison came later, as I predicted.He did not mention Hitler, and I'm sure she would identify as a global socialist rather than a national socialist. After all, she has said such things as those South of the border have every right to take American land and jobs because it was take form them years agLooking forward to the "AOC is Hitler" posts. Always fun.f course, all socialists want to go global, even Hitler. They just have different methods is all.
I wouldn't compare AOC to Hitler.AlwaysWhen you sucker people into paying 15% of their wages into social security and medicare for decades you better pay off. Dump the people who never paid a dime that are collecting off those rolls. We can not even afford to pay the people who paid into the social security system off and you want to expand other things. Obamacare was a lie. Social Security and Medicare will have to increase at least a couple percent more and the age risen to collect five years to extend it as of now. Socialism comes in many packages. And we are taxed at a high rate in our nation. And it is going higher. You will not end poverty. I know it sucks. But it will not happen.LOL, why do you think many, many Republicans are pushing for a vote on it. They want this in the news 24-7, while getting the Left on the record if they support it or not.
Trust me, if this crap gets to the House floor, the Republicans will push the debate as looooooong as they can, while requesting that the public let their feelings on the matter be known to them.
Now then, being THINKING individuals, every DEMOCRAT that supports this deal, when 2020 arrives and political commercials are run by Republicans, what do you think the jist of them will be-)
The Left has gone completely off the rails to quickly, and most Americans by far, are scared to death, and not just by what it would cost!
Americans are scared to death because they have no idea what she's talking about. Republicans hated "Obamacare" with a white hot passion. But when you talk to them about the Affordable Care Act, they LOVE that. Yes, Republicans are just that dumb. When you talk to conservatives about socialist programs like SS or Medicare, they are all for them. But they don't want socialism.
I'm looking forward to the discussion. Because most everyday Republicans, including YOU, haven't the vaguest idea of what socialism actually is.
When you start with a lie, you've nowhere to go but down:
Social Security and Medicare Withholding Rates. The current tax rate for social security is 6.2% for the employer and 6.2% for the employee, or 12.4% total. The current rate for Medicare is 1.45% for the employer and 1.45% for the employee, or 2.9% total.
While the total collected is 15.1%, you're only paying 7.65% of YOUR income to these taxes. Your employer is paying the rest. And if you think that your employer would pay you that additional 7.65% as part of your salary, I have a bridge in Nevada I'd like to sell you.
Americans pay the LOWEST rate of taxes in the First World. Of course the rest of the first world is paying for their health care as part of their taxes and Americans have to pay that separately. That's $18,000 a year or more for a healthy family of four, in addition to federal, state and local taxes.
The rest of us are doing all of things that Americans "can't afford". Our tax dollars are invested in health care, education, and infrastructure. Things like single payer health care for everyone. Cheap/free post secondary education. Smart countries don't have "charter schools", they build quality public schools, and they run them for far less than it costs for Americans. Last year the county dug up our street and installed all new water lines and sewers. Then they put in new curbing, and sidewalks, and paved the street, which was in rough shape. The new sidewalks drain snow and rain away from the sidewalk
Americans pay more money for health care, and get less for their money, than any nation in the world. You are the ONLY first world nation where there is no universal unfettered access to high quality health. The same is true for education. You pay more than any other country, and your education system isn't even in the top 10 in the world. But what you do have is the biggest baddest most expensive army in the world.
Massive armies are the tools of the wealthy and powerful. The American public has been duped into believing that they need the world's largest army to keep them safe. The rest of the world isn't that stupid.
The United States is the richest nation in the world. You can afford a "space force", you can send rocket ships to Mars, the world's largest, best equipped army, and 18 years of unnecessary and expensive wars. But you can't afford a decent education for a ghetto child.
Americans have decided that power and influence are their priorities. Their people are not. You have the money to do all of these things. You just don't want to give up the power and influence. And that's where your money goes.
Reading posts like these makes me think the muslim invasion of Europe is not so bad after all. Let the superior people win over those mentally not functional, even if their ways are questionable.
Speaking of that, don't you have enough troubles to sort out in your much poorer country than USA? Do that rather than attempting to pass on the terrible advice that's at the root of those problems to others.
What an insult to millions who suffered and died.
Would you?
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stealing from the Poor is more cost effective and they can't afford to hire attorney's.So am I, lol. So am I! A 90% NEW Federal sales tax to pay for it-) You go ahead and sell that pile of garbage. I want to watch you try-)
There will be a civil war if the left ever pass something like that. The few surviving socialists scum will flee for their lives to other countries.
I know the multi millionaires and billionaires will take up killing people. Crazy.
Why do you want to punish successful people? I'm guessing wealth envy and liberalism has rotted your brain.
The appeal to take from the rich is a timeless and universal one.
There is no fighting it.
That is the fuel for such socialists as Hitler and AOC
How in the world do you make it through a freaking day?Fuck you, now answer the fucking question Mr "financial adviser."Looking forward to the "AOC is Hitler" posts. Always fun.
Do you tell your moronic clients to voluntarily pay more taxes you arrogant asshole?
Tell all of us again how you are a financial expert please. That was a good one. Tell us how her new green deal makes perfect sense to an asshole like you.
Then tell us how you are not a socialist you pathetic fuck.
People move!Tax cut economics are worthless.The lower costs were jetisone many decades ago. Ask Claude Pepper and Tip O'Neill for social security and medicare. That was a socialism program at 15% to a wage earner that was supposed to be good until the 2070's. But whoa what happened? People at that time spoke up but were embarrassed as the total hate accusations were not in full regiment as of now.One representative. Is the right wing worthless and have no better solutions at lower cost?...because how else would you describe a program that would impose total SOCIALISM government control on a NATIONAL scale???
stop wasting our tax money on your useless wars, right wingers. stop whining about taxes. You should be Good Christians and proclaim, "it is ok, the Poor know not what they do".One representative. Is the right wing worthless and have no better solutions at lower cost?...because how else would you describe a program that would impose total SOCIALISM government control on a NATIONAL scale???
Get a job losers, pay your own damn bills and stop trying to mooch off the rest of us. There's the solution. Get up off your giant fat asses.
The Hitler comparison came later, as I predicted.He did not mention Hitler, and I'm sure she would identify as a global socialist rather than a national socialist. After all, she has said such things as those South of the border have every right to take American land and jobs because it was take form them years agLooking forward to the "AOC is Hitler" posts. Always fun.
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There will be a civil war if the left ever pass something like that. The few surviving socialists scum will flee for their lives to other countries.
I know the multi millionaires and billionaires will take up killing people. Crazy.
Why do you want to punish successful people? I'm guessing wealth envy and liberalism has rotted your brain.
The appeal to take from the rich is a timeless and universal one.
There is no fighting it.
That is the fuel for such socialists as Hitler and AOC
Does the wealth disparity in this nation concern you at all?
No, wealth is not a pie that must be shared. Wealth is created.
If this were not so, the economy could never grow, which it does every day.
I never understood the appeal of taking more from the rich in taxes. Why? Do we benefit more? No, we do not. They will still spend the same agreed to amount on health care, welfare, etc. regardless
It's not like the government can only spend the taxes it takes in since they run trillion dollar deficits every year.
It really is all monopoly money.
$20 trillion in debt is not even a real number.
Does this mean that you do compare her to Hitler?The Hitler comparison came later, as I predicted.He did not mention Hitler, and I'm sure she would identify as a global socialist rather than a national socialist. After all, she has said such things as those South of the border have every right to take American land and jobs because it was take form them years agLooking forward to the "AOC is Hitler" posts. Always fun.
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This is PC talking. PC insists that we NEVER use the Hitler comparison to anyone, for obvious reasons.
That is because History repeats itself, something socialists don't want us knowing.
Do yourself a favor. Play "Devil's Advocate" and prepare an argument in favor of reducing the wealth gap.
Does this mean that you do compare her to Hitler?
It appears that you do.
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