Obama 2014: Crime and Poverty Does Not Justify Asylum

[Rigby5]

Strange that you are demonizing victims....kind of like what was done too the Jews.

Let’s clarify the situation...
Why are they seeking to reside in the US?
Because their nations are making their lives miserable?
So how is the US kicking the shit out of their oppressors being like Hitler was with the Jews?
You must admire the leaders they are fleeing.

There are a variety of reasons causing migration, all around the world in fact. And some of them are legitimate reasons for asylum claims.

But I'm guessing you would not see it and would prefer to go back to the days marked by turning away the St. Louis - only, you would target different ethnic groups to bar entry to.

Things really don't change much.

Are you an idiot?
Do you watch the news?
These people are storming our border to escape their Brown leaders and your demented, Self-hating White brain can’t handle that fact.

Full of colors and dementia are you?

Look at what's going on in those countries - failed states, severe drought, poverty, starvation, uncontrolled gang violence and corruption. Ya, leadership failures, but much more.

Keep pretending it's about color. Or is it to you?

Keep pretending it's everyone else problem to deal with it.

Why is their infrastructure so bad?
Well, my Brown family and Brown co-workers who escaped from the Brown leaders said it was because their Brown leaders were Drug Lords.

It has nothing at all to do with infrastructure.
It is military death squads.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Granting asylum is conducted at the pleasure of the United States Government. If Trump wished he could simply say there will be no asylum granted, much like what FDR did to Jews fleeing Germany.

Asylum is a law, not a pleasure. Should you want to turn it into sonething arbritary, like pardons, get Congress to change the law.

In fact the law was created specifically because we, a nation at the time that was as xenophobic as we are becoming now, turned Jews away from our shores and sent them back to die in Europe. There was no asylum law when FDR turned them away.

And in the end we went to war.
Perhaps a like response is required if things South of the Border are truly so horrendous.

Strange that you are demonizing victims....kind of like what was done too the Jews.

Let’s clarify the situation...
Why are they seeking to reside in the US?
Because their nations are making their lives miserable?
So how is the US kicking the shit out of their oppressors being like Hitler was with the Jews?
You must admire the leaders they are fleeing.

There are a variety of reasons causing migration, all around the world in fact. And some of them are legitimate reasons for asylum claims.

But I'm guessing you would not see it and would prefer to go back to the days marked by turning away the St. Louis - only, you would target different ethnic groups to bar entry to.

Things really don't change much.

If you want to become a citizen of New Zealand you either have to fill a job the government says we need immigrants for or you need $2M in the bank.

Are New Zealanders Xenophobic?

No, most first world nations demand immigrants fill a productive need.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Let’s clarify the situation...
Why are they seeking to reside in the US?
Because their nations are making their lives miserable?
So how is the US kicking the shit out of their oppressors being like Hitler was with the Jews?
You must admire the leaders they are fleeing.

There are a variety of reasons causing migration, all around the world in fact. And some of them are legitimate reasons for asylum claims.

But I'm guessing you would not see it and would prefer to go back to the days marked by turning away the St. Louis - only, you would target different ethnic groups to bar entry to.

Things really don't change much.

Are you an idiot?
Do you watch the news?
These people are storming our border to escape their Brown leaders and your demented, Self-hating White brain can’t handle that fact.

Full of colors and dementia are you?

Look at what's going on in those countries - failed states, severe drought, poverty, starvation, uncontrolled gang violence and corruption. Ya, leadership failures, but much more.

Keep pretending it's about color. Or is it to you?

Keep pretending it's everyone else problem to deal with it.

Why is their infrastructure so bad?
Well, my Brown family and Brown co-workers who escaped from the Brown leaders said it was because their Brown leaders were Drug Lords.

It has nothing at all to do with infrastructure.
It is military death squads.

It has nothing at all to do with infrastructure.
It is military death squads.

That ain’t happening in this hemisphere.

 

[Weatherman2020]

And in the end we went to war.
Perhaps a like response is required if things South of the Border are truly so horrendous.

Strange that you are demonizing victims....kind of like what was done too the Jews.

Let’s clarify the situation...
Why are they seeking to reside in the US?
Because their nations are making their lives miserable?
So how is the US kicking the shit out of their oppressors being like Hitler was with the Jews?
You must admire the leaders they are fleeing.

There are a variety of reasons causing migration, all around the world in fact. And some of them are legitimate reasons for asylum claims.

But I'm guessing you would not see it and would prefer to go back to the days marked by turning away the St. Louis - only, you would target different ethnic groups to bar entry to.

Things really don't change much.

Are you an idiot?
Do you watch the news?
These people are storming our border to escape their Brown leaders and your demented, Self-hating White brain can’t handle that fact.

Full of colors and dementia are you?

Look at what's going on in those countries - failed states, severe drought, poverty, starvation, uncontrolled gang violence and corruption. Ya, leadership failures, but much more.

Keep pretending it's about color. Or is it to you?

Keep pretending it's everyone else problem to deal with it.

Look at what's going on in those countries - failed states, severe drought, poverty, starvation, uncontrolled gang violence and corruption. Ya, leadership failures, but much more.

You just described Los Angeles.

 

[Darkwind]

Oh, but 2014 is ancient history...

Watch President Obama explain why economic refugees don't qualify for asylum

He's right.

 

[Indeependent]

And in the end we went to war.
Perhaps a like response is required if things South of the Border are truly so horrendous.

Strange that you are demonizing victims....kind of like what was done too the Jews.

Let’s clarify the situation...
Why are they seeking to reside in the US?
Because their nations are making their lives miserable?
So how is the US kicking the shit out of their oppressors being like Hitler was with the Jews?
You must admire the leaders they are fleeing.

There are a variety of reasons causing migration, all around the world in fact. And some of them are legitimate reasons for asylum claims.

But I'm guessing you would not see it and would prefer to go back to the days marked by turning away the St. Louis - only, you would target different ethnic groups to bar entry to.

Things really don't change much.

Are you an idiot?
Do you watch the news?
These people are storming our border to escape their Brown leaders and your demented, Self-hating White brain can’t handle that fact.

Not at all true.

The majority of the asylum seekers are from Honduras, which was taken over by the military because the elected president Zelany was getting to friendly with Chavez in Venezuela, and the US wanted him taken out.
The US was the ONLY country in the world to not condemn the military takeover, and it is the US power over the Honduran military that is causing mass murder in Honduras.

In fact, we also are the cause of all the asylum seekers in Europe, who are trying to escape death in Syria, after we caused the fighting there, with Hillary's "Arab Spring" plan.

The US has been controlling the militaries of all the South and Central American countries since the start of the Monroe Doctrine. For example, we are the ones who bribed Pinochet into murdering tens of thousands in Chile.

There are not enough trees in the universe to supply enough paper to properly condemn every Brown nation South of the US.

 

[Indeependent]

Let’s clarify the situation...
Why are they seeking to reside in the US?
Because their nations are making their lives miserable?
So how is the US kicking the shit out of their oppressors being like Hitler was with the Jews?
You must admire the leaders they are fleeing.

There are a variety of reasons causing migration, all around the world in fact. And some of them are legitimate reasons for asylum claims.

But I'm guessing you would not see it and would prefer to go back to the days marked by turning away the St. Louis - only, you would target different ethnic groups to bar entry to.

Things really don't change much.

Are you an idiot?
Do you watch the news?
These people are storming our border to escape their Brown leaders and your demented, Self-hating White brain can’t handle that fact.

Full of colors and dementia are you?

Look at what's going on in those countries - failed states, severe drought, poverty, starvation, uncontrolled gang violence and corruption. Ya, leadership failures, but much more.

Keep pretending it's about color. Or is it to you?

Keep pretending it's everyone else problem to deal with it.

Why is their infrastructure so bad?
Well, my Brown family and Brown co-workers who escaped from the Brown leaders said it was because their Brown leaders were Drug Lords.

It has nothing at all to do with infrastructure.
It is military death squads.

Sucking in all the money for themselves.

 

[bullwinkle]

Oh, but 2014 is ancient history...

Watch President Obama explain why economic refugees don't qualify for asylum

What's laughable if not funny is that Obama was willing to tackle immigration in a way short of Trump's absolute cut off but Republicans just sat on any proposals just like they are doing today. The house has passed some 50 bills that are sitting in the Senate because McConnell wont address them. So stuff a sock in it, weather. Republican playbook is to create a situation, then complain about it while stupid people swallow the scam whole and the immigration bottleneck is a major example. Problem is that the whole world is watching the vast difference between what we say and what we do in this issue, and I think most of our friends have simply unplugged the trust-o-meter as non-working these days.

Trump tried to use the same tactic Obama did. But Trump was a racist and Obama wasn't. Shows how screwed up you people are.

jknowgood, saying it ain't enough. Give us an example of Trump trying the same tactic as Obama and the unfair reaction against his effort. That way folks can see what you mean and not dismiss your word as a Trump CYA.

Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?[/QUOTE]"
When? What countries? I honestly do not recall hearing that Obama denied entry to any 'countries'.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Oh, but 2014 is ancient history...

Watch President Obama explain why economic refugees don't qualify for asylum

What's laughable if not funny is that Obama was willing to tackle immigration in a way short of Trump's absolute cut off but Republicans just sat on any proposals just like they are doing today. The house has passed some 50 bills that are sitting in the Senate because McConnell wont address them. So stuff a sock in it, weather. Republican playbook is to create a situation, then complain about it while stupid people swallow the scam whole and the immigration bottleneck is a major example. Problem is that the whole world is watching the vast difference between what we say and what we do in this issue, and I think most of our friends have simply unplugged the trust-o-meter as non-working these days.

Trump tried to use the same tactic Obama did. But Trump was a racist and Obama wasn't. Shows how screwed up you people are.

jknowgood, saying it ain't enough. Give us an example of Trump trying the same tactic as Obama and the unfair reaction against his effort. That way folks can see what you mean and not dismiss your word as a Trump CYA.

Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"
When? What countries? I honestly do not recall hearing that Obama denied entry to any 'countries'.[/QUOTE]
19 times Obama restricted immigration.

 

[Coyote]

What's laughable if not funny is that Obama was willing to tackle immigration in a way short of Trump's absolute cut off but Republicans just sat on any proposals just like they are doing today. The house has passed some 50 bills that are sitting in the Senate because McConnell wont address them. So stuff a sock in it, weather. Republican playbook is to create a situation, then complain about it while stupid people swallow the scam whole and the immigration bottleneck is a major example. Problem is that the whole world is watching the vast difference between what we say and what we do in this issue, and I think most of our friends have simply unplugged the trust-o-meter as non-working these days.

Trump tried to use the same tactic Obama did. But Trump was a racist and Obama wasn't. Shows how screwed up you people are.

jknowgood, saying it ain't enough. Give us an example of Trump trying the same tactic as Obama and the unfair reaction against his effort. That way folks can see what you mean and not dismiss your word as a Trump CYA.

Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"
When? What countries? I honestly do not recall hearing that Obama denied entry to any 'countries'.

19 times Obama restricted immigration.

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And do see how that policy is quite different from Trumps in your attempt at false equivalency?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trump tried to use the same tactic Obama did. But Trump was a racist and Obama wasn't. Shows how screwed up you people are.

jknowgood, saying it ain't enough. Give us an example of Trump trying the same tactic as Obama and the unfair reaction against his effort. That way folks can see what you mean and not dismiss your word as a Trump CYA.

Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"
When? What countries? I honestly do not recall hearing that Obama denied entry to any 'countries'.

19 times Obama restricted immigration.

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And do see how that policy is quite different from Trumps in your attempt at false equivalency?[/QUOTE]
Oh, it’s different because shut up!

19 times Obama restricted immigrants from specific nations. Suck it up, buttercup.

 

[Coyote]

jknowgood, saying it ain't enough. Give us an example of Trump trying the same tactic as Obama and the unfair reaction against his effort. That way folks can see what you mean and not dismiss your word as a Trump CYA.

Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"
When? What countries? I honestly do not recall hearing that Obama denied entry to any 'countries'.

19 times Obama restricted immigration.

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And do see how that policy is quite different from Trumps in your attempt at false equivalency?

Oh, it’s different because shut up!

19 times Obama restricted immigrants from specific nations. Suck it up, buttercup.[/QUOTE]

Reading comprehension problems, sweet Cheeks?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"
When? What countries? I honestly do not recall hearing that Obama denied entry to any 'countries'.

19 times Obama restricted immigration.

View attachment 269859
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View attachment 269861

And do see how that policy is quite different from Trumps in your attempt at false equivalency?

Oh, it’s different because shut up!

19 times Obama restricted immigrants from specific nations. Suck it up, buttercup.

Reading comprehension problems, sweet Cheeks?[/QUOTE]
How did I know you can’t back up your hilarious spin?

 

[bullwinkle]

What's laughable if not funny is that Obama was willing to tackle immigration in a way short of Trump's absolute cut off but Republicans just sat on any proposals just like they are doing today. The house has passed some 50 bills that are sitting in the Senate because McConnell wont address them. So stuff a sock in it, weather. Republican playbook is to create a situation, then complain about it while stupid people swallow the scam whole and the immigration bottleneck is a major example. Problem is that the whole world is watching the vast difference between what we say and what we do in this issue, and I think most of our friends have simply unplugged the trust-o-meter as non-working these days.

Trump tried to use the same tactic Obama did. But Trump was a racist and Obama wasn't. Shows how screwed up you people are.

jknowgood, saying it ain't enough. Give us an example of Trump trying the same tactic as Obama and the unfair reaction against his effort. That way folks can see what you mean and not dismiss your word as a Trump CYA.

Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"
When? What countries? I honestly do not recall hearing that Obama denied entry to any 'countries'.

19 times Obama restricted immigration.

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Weather, I can't thank you enough for posting all those actions by Obama to protect our country from very specific identified persons who worked against our country thru direct action or working with our known enemies. It's good to know his admin was on the job.
But I think I see a difference between then and now. And that difference is that in the past bans weren't against a religion or ethnic group but rather against specific persons KNOWN to be harmful to the USA as opposed to they're-the-same-ethnic-group-so-ban-them-all.
Good job with the documentation though. Thanks!

 

[Rigby5]

Asylum is a law, not a pleasure. Should you want to turn it into sonething arbritary, like pardons, get Congress to change the law.

In fact the law was created specifically because we, a nation at the time that was as xenophobic as we are becoming now, turned Jews away from our shores and sent them back to die in Europe. There was no asylum law when FDR turned them away.

And in the end we went to war.
Perhaps a like response is required if things South of the Border are truly so horrendous.

Strange that you are demonizing victims....kind of like what was done too the Jews.

Let’s clarify the situation...
Why are they seeking to reside in the US?
Because their nations are making their lives miserable?
So how is the US kicking the shit out of their oppressors being like Hitler was with the Jews?
You must admire the leaders they are fleeing.

There are a variety of reasons causing migration, all around the world in fact. And some of them are legitimate reasons for asylum claims.

But I'm guessing you would not see it and would prefer to go back to the days marked by turning away the St. Louis - only, you would target different ethnic groups to bar entry to.

Things really don't change much.

If you want to become a citizen of New Zealand you either have to fill a job the government says we need immigrants for or you need $2M in the bank.

Are New Zealanders Xenophobic?

No, most first world nations demand immigrants fill a productive need.

Not really.
New Zealand has always had a wide open immigration policy.
You do have to apply and qualify, but almost every one does.

 

[bullwinkle]

No, noy from

jknowgood, saying it ain't enough. Give us an example of Trump trying the same tactic as Obama and the unfair reaction against his effort. That way folks can see what you mean and not dismiss your word as a Trump CYA.

Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"
When? What countries? I honestly do not recall hearing that Obama denied entry to any 'countries'.

19 times Obama restricted immigration.

View attachment 269859
View attachment 269860
View attachment 269861

And do see how that policy is quite different from Trumps in your attempt at false equivalency?

Oh, it’s different because shut up!

19 times Obama restricted immigrants from specific nations. Suck it up, buttercup.[/QUOTE]
No, not from specific nations, but for specific acts.

 

[Rigby5]

There are a variety of reasons causing migration, all around the world in fact. And some of them are legitimate reasons for asylum claims.

But I'm guessing you would not see it and would prefer to go back to the days marked by turning away the St. Louis - only, you would target different ethnic groups to bar entry to.

Things really don't change much.

Are you an idiot?
Do you watch the news?
These people are storming our border to escape their Brown leaders and your demented, Self-hating White brain can’t handle that fact.

Full of colors and dementia are you?

Look at what's going on in those countries - failed states, severe drought, poverty, starvation, uncontrolled gang violence and corruption. Ya, leadership failures, but much more.

Keep pretending it's about color. Or is it to you?

Keep pretending it's everyone else problem to deal with it.

Why is their infrastructure so bad?
Well, my Brown family and Brown co-workers who escaped from the Brown leaders said it was because their Brown leaders were Drug Lords.

It has nothing at all to do with infrastructure.
It is military death squads.

It has nothing at all to do with infrastructure.
It is military death squads.

That ain’t happening in this hemisphere.

No, the western hemisphere is famous for military death squads, including Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, etc.
Nearly all the illegal immigration is due to abusive militaries the US has armed, trained, and financed.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Are you an idiot?
Do you watch the news?
These people are storming our border to escape their Brown leaders and your demented, Self-hating White brain can’t handle that fact.

Full of colors and dementia are you?

Look at what's going on in those countries - failed states, severe drought, poverty, starvation, uncontrolled gang violence and corruption. Ya, leadership failures, but much more.

Keep pretending it's about color. Or is it to you?

Keep pretending it's everyone else problem to deal with it.

Why is their infrastructure so bad?
Well, my Brown family and Brown co-workers who escaped from the Brown leaders said it was because their Brown leaders were Drug Lords.

It has nothing at all to do with infrastructure.
It is military death squads.

It has nothing at all to do with infrastructure.
It is military death squads.

That ain’t happening in this hemisphere.

No, the western hemisphere is famous for military death squads, including Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, etc.
Nearly all the illegal immigration is due to abusive militaries the US has armed, trained, and financed.

It’s not 1970.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trump tried to use the same tactic Obama did. But Trump was a racist and Obama wasn't. Shows how screwed up you people are.

jknowgood, saying it ain't enough. Give us an example of Trump trying the same tactic as Obama and the unfair reaction against his effort. That way folks can see what you mean and not dismiss your word as a Trump CYA.

Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"Trump tried to deny entry from the exact same countries than Obama did. He is called a racist. Obama a hero. See the difference?

"
When? What countries? I honestly do not recall hearing that Obama denied entry to any 'countries'.

19 times Obama restricted immigration.

View attachment 269859
View attachment 269860
View attachment 269861

Weather, I can't thank you enough for posting all those actions by Obama to protect our country from very specific identified persons who worked against our country thru direct action or working with our known enemies. It's good to know his admin was on the job.
But I think I see a difference between then and now. And that difference is that in the past bans weren't against a religion or ethnic group but rather against specific persons KNOWN to be harmful to the USA as opposed to they're-the-same-ethnic-group-so-ban-them-all.
Good job with the documentation though. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Translation: It’s OK because it was Obama.

 

[Indeependent]

Are you an idiot?
Do you watch the news?
These people are storming our border to escape their Brown leaders and your demented, Self-hating White brain can’t handle that fact.

Full of colors and dementia are you?

Look at what's going on in those countries - failed states, severe drought, poverty, starvation, uncontrolled gang violence and corruption. Ya, leadership failures, but much more.

Keep pretending it's about color. Or is it to you?

Keep pretending it's everyone else problem to deal with it.

Why is their infrastructure so bad?
Well, my Brown family and Brown co-workers who escaped from the Brown leaders said it was because their Brown leaders were Drug Lords.

It has nothing at all to do with infrastructure.
It is military death squads.

It has nothing at all to do with infrastructure.
It is military death squads.

That ain’t happening in this hemisphere.

No, the western hemisphere is famous for military death squads, including Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, etc.
Nearly all the illegal immigration is due to abusive militaries the US has armed, trained, and financed.

Nope.