OBAMA Does anyone really believe a word he says anymore?

[TooTall]

Yes, see seatbelts




Because the more people put in the cheaper it becomes. This isnt Rocket Surgery



So obvious that answer is that you cant find anything but your own story writing to back that up.


I know, doom and gloom....the sky is falling...it will be the end of America yadda yadda

Your claim is the one that's totally illogical, Closed. If something really IS better than what people have then THEY FLOCK TO IT! You don't have to mandate it. You don't have to impose fines to force compliance. If your neighbor tells you that he just saved 20% on his health insurance and got better coverage you're probably beating a path down to your agent's office the next day to sign up. That isn't what's happening with the ACA though...is it?

Actually, THAT is exactly what is happening. As more and more people start ignoring the lies and false information spread by the gop the word of mouth is reaching more and more people and that is the reason the projection of 7,000,000+ was met. Stop whining like the poor loser you are.

You don't really believe that 7.1 million number do you? Can all of them keep their doctor?
Does "Lie of the Year" ring a bell?

 

[candycorn]

Mitt Romney spent a lifetime successfully working in both the private and the public sectors. When you compare him with Barack Obama the contrast is so glaring as to be almost laughable. Show me something exceptional that Obama did as a lawyer, as a college instructor, or as a legislator! The truth is...he was mediocre at best...at ALL of these things! He basically slid along using the status of being the first black President of the Harvard Law Review. Romney on the other hand was incredibly successful in practically everything he touched...from running the Mormon mission in France at a young age...to being an investment capitalist...to rescuing the Olympic Games...to working with an overwhelmingly liberal House in Massachusetts. That's the guy we COULD have had! Instead we got the guy who's all talk with nothing to back it up.

Yeah, the "expert" who hasn't worked in 10 years or so...

I'm glad we dodged that bullet and elected President Obama to 4 more years.

This from someone who voted for the mulatto messiah who had no real world experience except sucking off the government and foundations, really!

Yeah, he could have sold stock that he was given by his father....like Governor Romney did; really!

Mitt Romney and Ann: the students ?struggling? so much that they had to sell stock.

Man, I wish I was struggling like they were back in the day where I would have to sell securities to make ends meet.

 

[candycorn]

I mean seriously the guy has lied to the American people so many times I have lost count.
He has more scandals under his belt than all the presidents combined and has put us in more debt than all of the previous presidents.

You really have to be brain dead at this point to think anything he does is going to benefit the American People.

let us know when he lies us into a war.


mmkay?

Do you mean lies like these?

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source
snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

Gee, and the book cookers at the CIA were the ones briefing Congress at the time.

 

[Vigilante]

How many of those who don't believe a word he said didn't vote for him, believed that he was born in Kenya and has a fake birth certificate, say he's a Communist, and hated him from day one?

There are far too many people on this board who simply come on here to spout nonsense and not to debate, they love nothing more than telling the world that Obama is this that and the other, when the reality is, the president isn't the problem and has never been, and I mean that for Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan etc.

The people who control politics, the corruption etc, these are the real problems, but those people who control politics are the ones who want you to say such nonsense to keep the heat away from them. Well done.

Before I say what I have to say on this OP, let me start with a little reality check for everyone. Politics in general, and political parties in particular is not a profession or a group that's known for creating straight shooters who tell the unvarnished truth. With that said, any conservative who thinks that Obama is an inveterate liar about all things while the conservative members of the Republican Party are shining examples of truth, justice and the American way are either delusional, or stupid, or just plain so partisan as to be unwilling or incapable of evaluating individual statements on their merit alone, and instead engage the kind of play by play analysis that fans of football teams do when a play is in dispute. Frankly, I wish we lived in a world where football players wouldn't claim they made a good catch when the ball was actually trapped (hit the ground first before bouncing up into the arms of the intended receiver), but that's not the way the world works, I'm sad to say. That's why there are referees on the field. If anything, politics is dirtier, nastier, and considerably more dishonest than pro sports with all their doping. And politicians are worse offfenders than used car salesmen when it comes to honesty.

At this point, I would like to bring talk radio into the equation. I've listened to talk radio for about 20 years, and I hear more lying, and dissembling, and phony disinformation in just about any 3 hour broadcast from conservative radio hosts than I hear from most politicians on TV. If those are the sources some people depend on to evaluate Obama's truthfulness, all I can say is you're being duped.

And as your signature you sign off with "Avowed Marxist/Lennonist" ( BTW. what the fuck is a LENNONIST... do you mean a follower of John Lennon, or did you mean a Leninist, a follower of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin?)

This poster is even a bigger turd that Statisfuckhisnameis!

 

[TooTall]

let us know when he lies us into a war.


mmkay?

Do you mean lies like these?

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source
snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

Gee, and the book cookers at the CIA were the ones briefing Congress at the time.

That is correct.

Now, tell me George Bush lied us into a war.

 

[Mustang]

How many of those who don't believe a word he said didn't vote for him, believed that he was born in Kenya and has a fake birth certificate, say he's a Communist, and hated him from day one?

There are far too many people on this board who simply come on here to spout nonsense and not to debate, they love nothing more than telling the world that Obama is this that and the other, when the reality is, the president isn't the problem and has never been, and I mean that for Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan etc.

The people who control politics, the corruption etc, these are the real problems, but those people who control politics are the ones who want you to say such nonsense to keep the heat away from them. Well done.

Before I say what I have to say on this OP, let me start with a little reality check for everyone. Politics in general, and political parties in particular is not a profession or a group that's known for creating straight shooters who tell the unvarnished truth. With that said, any conservative who thinks that Obama is an inveterate liar about all things while the conservative members of the Republican Party are shining examples of truth, justice and the American way are either delusional, or stupid, or just plain so partisan as to be unwilling or incapable of evaluating individual statements on their merit alone, and instead engage the kind of play by play analysis that fans of football teams do when a play is in dispute. Frankly, I wish we lived in a world where football players wouldn't claim they made a good catch when the ball was actually trapped (hit the ground first before bouncing up into the arms of the intended receiver), but that's not the way the world works, I'm sad to say. That's why there are referees on the field. If anything, politics is dirtier, nastier, and considerably more dishonest than pro sports with all their doping. And politicians are worse offfenders than used car salesmen when it comes to honesty.

At this point, I would like to bring talk radio into the equation. I've listened to talk radio for about 20 years, and I hear more lying, and dissembling, and phony disinformation in just about any 3 hour broadcast from conservative radio hosts than I hear from most politicians on TV. If those are the sources some people depend on to evaluate Obama's truthfulness, all I can say is you're being duped.

And as your signature you sign off with "Avowed Marxist/Lennonist" ( BTW. what the fuck is a LENNONIST... do you mean a follower of John Lennon, or did you mean a Leninist, a follower of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin?)

This poster is even a bigger turd that Statisfuckhisnameis!

Did you bother to look at the picture above the signature? Start there, genius. I've heard that it's worth a thousand words.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I'm sure Vladimir Putin agrees with you.

Not sure about Vlady...I'm happy that our President didn't spill American blood over a useless parcel of land in the Black Sea however.

What would you or Governor Romney have done differently to prevent the Russian takeover of Crimea?

Romney told Obama that Russia was a foe, at which point Obama arrogantly tried to ridicule Romney. Now who looks like the fool over and over again? ........

You look like a fool. Answer what Romney would have done? Would we have escalated the issue into a new cold war, or worse. How many American troops were killed during this incident, how many might Romney have put in harms way?

 

[Vigilante]

Before I say what I have to say on this OP, let me start with a little reality check for everyone. Politics in general, and political parties in particular is not a profession or a group that's known for creating straight shooters who tell the unvarnished truth. With that said, any conservative who thinks that Obama is an inveterate liar about all things while the conservative members of the Republican Party are shining examples of truth, justice and the American way are either delusional, or stupid, or just plain so partisan as to be unwilling or incapable of evaluating individual statements on their merit alone, and instead engage the kind of play by play analysis that fans of football teams do when a play is in dispute. Frankly, I wish we lived in a world where football players wouldn't claim they made a good catch when the ball was actually trapped (hit the ground first before bouncing up into the arms of the intended receiver), but that's not the way the world works, I'm sad to say. That's why there are referees on the field. If anything, politics is dirtier, nastier, and considerably more dishonest than pro sports with all their doping. And politicians are worse offfenders than used car salesmen when it comes to honesty.

At this point, I would like to bring talk radio into the equation. I've listened to talk radio for about 20 years, and I hear more lying, and dissembling, and phony disinformation in just about any 3 hour broadcast from conservative radio hosts than I hear from most politicians on TV. If those are the sources some people depend on to evaluate Obama's truthfulness, all I can say is you're being duped.

And as your signature you sign off with "Avowed Marxist/Lennonist" ( BTW. what the fuck is a LENNONIST... do you mean a follower of John Lennon, or did you mean a Leninist, a follower of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin?)

This poster is even a bigger turd that Statisfuckhisnameis!

Did you bother to look at the picture above the signature? Start there, genius. I've heard that it's worth a thousand words.

LOLOL! You got me, I better get new glasses!

 

[Wry Catcher]

I'm sure Vladimir Putin agrees with you.

Not sure about Vlady...I'm happy that our President didn't spill American blood over a useless parcel of land in the Black Sea however.

What would you or Governor Romney have done differently to prevent the Russian takeover of Crimea?

Romney told Obama that Russia was a foe, at which point Obama arrogantly tried to ridicule Romney. Now who looks like the fool over and over again? ........

Romney, he's a loser, whining and sour grapes does not make a good Commander- in-Chief or a good diplomat. He's also an arm-chair QB, and second guessing the starter before the final play is made.

 

[TooTall]

Yeah, the "expert" who hasn't worked in 10 years or so...

I'm glad we dodged that bullet and elected President Obama to 4 more years.

This from someone who voted for the mulatto messiah who had no real world experience except sucking off the government and foundations, really!

Yeah, he could have sold stock that he was given by his father....like Governor Romney did; really!

Mitt Romney and Ann: the students ?struggling? so much that they had to sell stock.

Man, I wish I was struggling like they were back in the day where I would have to sell securities to make ends meet.

Romney must be the only one whose father ever paid for his college education.

 

[Rambunctious]

I mean seriously the guy has lied to the American people so many times I have lost count.
He has more scandals under his belt than all the presidents combined and has put us in more debt than all of the previous presidents.

You really have to be brain dead at this point to think anything he does is going to benefit the American People.

NO I don't believe anything he says. Lie to me once or twice shame on you lie to me again and shame on me. He is a liar and lied to win reelection and that sucks.

 

[dr.d]

Oh my...so u must be really upset about Reagan lying about Iran/Contra...or NIXON LYING ABOUT his subterfuge in Watergate...And of course, Clinton lying about getting a blowjob (that's a given...an impeachable offense)...and Bush/Cheny lying about reasons for attacking Iraq...which cost over 2OO, ooo human lives, at least 3, 000 of which were our own...
And You say Obama is the ultimate lier..ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT?


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[frigidweirdo]

If our rationale for going into Iraq was because we wanted their oil...then why didn't we take their oil when we took control of Iraq? Did we just FORGET? We didn't take their oil because that was never the reason why we went in there in the first place! We went there because Saddam Hussein wouldn't abide by the UN sanctions that were in place following the first Gulf War.

Why? Because the US couldn't hope to hold Iraq as an American domain.

The US's policy of only going in when US interests are at heart is there.

The logic is that Chavez wanted to have OPEC doing what was best for OPEC countries. Bush wanted OPEC doing what was best for the US. Which way was Saddam going to go?

You see why the US never says much about Human Rights abuses in Saudi Arabia, the WORST country in the world for Human Rights abuses? It's because they do what the US wants when it comes to oil.

The US has taken down half of those who oppose the US in OPEC. It's a lot harder now for OPEC to now act like a "cartel" and push up prices like they have done in the past. Why? Because Iraq is now pumping out oil like nobody's business, and Libya will be too. Chavez has gone and Maduro simply isn't as strong as Chavez, and Iran has sanctions and Algeria really hasn't done much.

The US govt is more or less happy, they just want to take down the Iranian govt.

Why do you think Iran gets in the news so much? They're preparing the people for some kind of action by making out that the Iranians are bad, much worse than Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, which is simply not true.

If you think it was about sanctions then you really need to look harder. "" WMD was just a smoke screen.

Again, why do you think the US has helped a coup in Venezuela, invaded Iraq, sanctions against Iran, bombed Libya?
Why do you think they didn't go into the Ivory Coast or Syria?

 

[frigidweirdo]

The progressive rant back then was that we were only going into Iraq because we wanted their oil...then when it became obvious that WASN'T the case you didn't hear that anymore. Do you guys ever get tired of being so completely wrong?

Ever notice the difference? I back up my claims with evidence. You merely make a 2 line comment with no evidence, no backing up, no argument, nothing just "you're wrong".

well done.

 

[jillian]

The progressive rant back then was that we were only going into Iraq because we wanted their oil...then when it became obvious that WASN'T the case you didn't hear that anymore. Do you guys ever get tired of being so completely wrong?

when did it become obvious that wasn't the case?

of course it was the case.....

there wasn't any other justification and there was no plan for anything in iraq outside the oil fields.

you're welcome.

 

[Oldstyle]

The progressive rant back then was that we were only going into Iraq because we wanted their oil...then when it became obvious that WASN'T the case you didn't hear that anymore. Do you guys ever get tired of being so completely wrong?

Ever notice the difference? I back up my claims with evidence. You merely make a 2 line comment with no evidence, no backing up, no argument, nothing just "you're wrong".

well done.

I need to back up my claim that we didn't take Iraq's oil? Ah, I wasn't aware that was in question, Frigid. Did you want to make the case that we DID take their oil...because I must have MISSED when that happened!

Or are you making the claim that liberals didn't accuse W. of going into Iraq because we wanted their oil? You must have missed the numerous threads proclaiming that to be the case on every message board on the internet back then.

Since you claim that you back up your claims with "evidence" then I guess you'll be providing proof that we DID take the Iraqis' oil and that liberals DIDN'T accuse W. of going into Iraq to take their oil?

 

[Oldstyle]

The progressive rant back then was that we were only going into Iraq because we wanted their oil...then when it became obvious that WASN'T the case you didn't hear that anymore. Do you guys ever get tired of being so completely wrong?

when did it become obvious that wasn't the case?

of course it was the case.....

there wasn't any other justification and there was no plan for anything in iraq outside the oil fields.

you're welcome.

And there you have it...right on cue, Jillian is here to make that claim...just as she was making it back then. When did we take their oil, Jillian? We controlled the country. When did we take Iraq's oil?

 

[bluesman]

I mean seriously the guy has lied to the American people so many times I have lost count.
He has more scandals under his belt than all the presidents combined and has put us in more debt than all of the previous presidents.

You really have to be brain dead at this point to think anything he does is going to benefit the American People.

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A no content Obama-hate Op and that is all the right wingers need. What a fucking joke.

 

[Vigilante]

The progressive rant back then was that we were only going into Iraq because we wanted their oil...then when it became obvious that WASN'T the case you didn't hear that anymore. Do you guys ever get tired of being so completely wrong?

when did it become obvious that wasn't the case?

of course it was the case.....

there wasn't any other justification and there was no plan for anything in iraq outside the oil fields.

you're welcome.

And there you have it...right on cue, Jillian is here to make that claim...just as she was making it back then. When did we take their oil, Jillian? We controlled the country. When did we take Iraq's oil?

You're now asking her hard questions. If she could fuck up and think Kentucky was Oklahoma, this one will drive her crazy!

 

[frigidweirdo]

I need to back up my claim that we didn't take Iraq's oil? Ah, I wasn't aware that was in question, Frigid. Did you want to make the case that we DID take their oil...because I must have MISSED when that happened!

Or are you making the claim that liberals didn't accuse W. of going into Iraq because we wanted their oil? You must have missed the numerous threads proclaiming that to be the case on every message board on the internet back then.

Since you claim that you back up your claims with "evidence" then I guess you'll be providing proof that we DID take the Iraqis' oil and that liberals DIDN'T accuse W. of going into Iraq to take their oil?

Oh, if you actually look at my posts, you'll see that I have made my case.

"proof" is never going to be 100% in most things, but my case is there. The case for the other side is what? A sentence?

But to be honest, you haven't made a case for anything, neither for debunking what I've said, nor for promoting your own side.