Obama Just Took A Big Victory Lap On Obamacare

[saveliberty]

And rightly so. Congratulations Mr. President on a job well done.





Obama Just Took A Big Victory Lap On Obamacare - Yahoo Finance

President Barack Obama touted the successes of the Affordable Care Act and improvements in the economy overall, during in a major speech on the economy Thursday at Northwestern University in Illinois.

He had to fight against a lot of myopic folks and right wing obstructionists. Took a lot of guts. The legislation could have been even better without the obstruction and ignorance.

Question for you that NOT one of you Obamacare supporters seem to understand...
You as Obama does obviously prefer a single payer.
So where will the Federal/state/local and local property taxes get the $100 billion a year in tax revenues that 1,300 insurance payers
pay when there is ONLY one payer?
Also who will be offering jobs to the 400,000 people that become unemployed with these 1,300 companies go out of existence?

That's your rationale for criticizing Obamacare? First, insurance companies currently administer Medicare and Medicaid, so they will still be in the mix, taking less risk but still providing administration. I doubt that $100 Billion in property taxes will be lost. Nor do I think the transformation will be as quick as you think. Whatever, everyone deserves decent coverage.

A) YOU are right about insurance companies administering Medicare. But there are less then 30 Medicare Administrative Contractors AND they lose money on their Medicare contracts.
B) Medicare Advantage plans are run by insurance companies also. BUT OBAMACARE is doing away with them...because they make a profit!
I kid you not! Obama hates any companies that make profits and he is adamant that Advantage plans are NOT good!
C) I didn't SAY $100 billion in property taxes... YOU didn't see the preceding "Federal/state/local taxes" and yes they will be gone because again
Obama want's "single payer" as he is so f..king dumb he has NO IDEA how insurance works!
D) Decent coverage??? How many people do you think were uninsured? 46 million the number Obama uses???
Where have you been on this forum where I've written hundreds of times proving there never were 46 million uninsured a number used to pass by
just 7 House votes Obamacare!
1) 10 million of the number Obama used ARE NOT CITIZENS... and Now after it was passed ...Obama admits it! He uses 36 million!
2) 14 million are people that qualified for medicaid BEFORE ACA... so due to Medicaid ineptness they are bogusly counted as part of the 46 million!
3) 18 million don't WANT health insurance. Can pay for it under employers' plan but as they are under 34 don't NEED....
That leaves 4 million of the so-called 46 million "uninsured"....
And that would have been easily solved by doing what stupidly ACA does i.e. taxing 10% on tanning salons as they cause cancer.. rather
tax the $270 billion lawyers make as lawyers cause $850 billion in wasted duplicate tests by doctors. That $27 billion in taxes would pay
a $5,000 premium per each of the 4 million truly uninsured that wanted insurance!

BUT YOU won't believe me!
So here are the sources and if you are an honest and intellectually curious follow the sources..read as I did the facts there never were 46 million !

Proof:10 million are not citizens Income Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States 2009 - Income Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
Proof:14 million due to Medicaid ineptness eligible before ACA: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Proof:18 million never wanted or need health insurance: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED 2009
42 million bogus number of the 46 million!
Proof: $850 billion wasted due to fear of lawsuits!
"Physicians estimate the cost of defensive medicine in US at $650 to $850 billion per year. This is 26 to 34% of all US healthcare costs.
Up to 92% of US physicians practice defensive medicine.
SOURCE: Health News Observer rsaquo Physicians Estimate The Cost Of Defensive Medicine In Us At 650 To 850 Bill Articles

Obamacare displaced 6 million policy holders....

 

[saveliberty]

You may be right.

When asked if they wanted ACA, the low information faux dupes said yes but when asked if they wanted ObamaCare, they said no.

Its a good start and is helping millions but people are still very ignorant about it. We still see people here who believe that ObamaCare is a product.

RWs are lying about ebola, mixing and stirring and Republicans have yet another wasteful repeal vote planned for after the election.

The CDC is calling it an epidemic, how is that the right lying?

Obama sent troops to Africa to help with the epidemic, how is that the right lying?

 

[RandallFlagg]

And rightly so. Congratulations Mr. President on a job well done.





Obama Just Took A Big Victory Lap On Obamacare - Yahoo Finance

President Barack Obama touted the successes of the Affordable Care Act and improvements in the economy overall, during in a major speech on the economy Thursday at Northwestern University in Illinois.

He had to fight against a lot of myopic folks and right wing obstructionists. Took a lot of guts. The legislation could have been even better without the obstruction and ignorance.

2.1 BILLION on a website that STILL doesn't work properly. yeah, this is good shit.....The Feds could have given every man, woman and child in America 2 million dollars EACH to purchase lifetime coverage for less money they have squandered on the website.

Yeah, Obarrycare is an unqualified success.......


What dumbasses

 

[The Rabbi]

Handing out deck chairs on the Titanic.

Looks like the GOP is sunk via Obamacare

Obamacare will not rally voters for more liberal policy(makers) come November.

Come on.

You may be right.

When asked if they wanted ACA, the low information faux dupes said yes but when asked if they wanted ObamaCare, they said no.

Its a good start and is helping millions but people are still very ignorant about it. We still see people here who believe that ObamaCare is a product.

RWs are lying about ebola, mixing and stirring and Republicans have yet another wasteful repeal vote planned for after the election.

The more people understand Obamacare, the less they lke it. The more they experience Obamacare the less they like it.

 

[The Rabbi]

You may be right.

When asked if they wanted ACA, the low information faux dupes said yes but when asked if they wanted ObamaCare, they said no.

Its a good start and is helping millions but people are still very ignorant about it. We still see people here who believe that ObamaCare is a product.

RWs are lying about ebola, mixing and stirring and Republicans have yet another wasteful repeal vote planned for after the election.

The CDC is calling it an epidemic, how is that the right lying?

Obama sent troops to Africa to help with the epidemic, how is that the right lying?

Anything that doesnt fit their narrative must be because the Right is lying.

 

[JimH52]

Handing out deck chairs on the Titanic.

Looks like the GOP is sunk via Obamacare

Obamacare will not rally voters for more liberal policy(makers) come November.

Come on.

You may be right.

When asked if they wanted ACA, the low information faux dupes said yes but when asked if they wanted ObamaCare, they said no.

Its a good start and is helping millions but people are still very ignorant about it. We still see people here who believe that ObamaCare is a product.

RWs are lying about ebola, mixing and stirring and Republicans have yet another wasteful repeal vote planned for after the election.

It is the revised "death panels" lie. That low information GOP FOX audience will tell every lie they can to stop progress or keep poor people from getting help. Then the "Christians" will go to church on Sunday and pray for the unfortunate poor they have been trying to screw over all week. That is NOT Christianity. That is Hypocrisy!

 

[saveliberty]

Handing out deck chairs on the Titanic.

Looks like the GOP is sunk via Obamacare

Obamacare will not rally voters for more liberal policy(makers) come November.

Come on.

You may be right.

When asked if they wanted ACA, the low information faux dupes said yes but when asked if they wanted ObamaCare, they said no.

Its a good start and is helping millions but people are still very ignorant about it. We still see people here who believe that ObamaCare is a product.

RWs are lying about ebola, mixing and stirring and Republicans have yet another wasteful repeal vote planned for after the election.

It is the revised "death panels" lie. That low information GOP FOX audience will tell every lie they can to stop progress or keep poor people from getting help. Then the "Christians" will go to church on Sunday and pray for the unfortunate poor they have been trying to screw over all week. That is NOT Christianity. That is Hypocrisy!

Those Christians run a lot of soup kitchens and food pantries.

 

[AtticusF]

And rightly so. Congratulations Mr. President on a job well done.





Obama Just Took A Big Victory Lap On Obamacare - Yahoo Finance

President Barack Obama touted the successes of the Affordable Care Act and improvements in the economy overall, during in a major speech on the economy Thursday at Northwestern University in Illinois.

He had to fight against a lot of myopic folks and right wing obstructionists. Took a lot of guts. The legislation could have been even better without the obstruction and ignorance.

2.1 BILLION on a website that STILL doesn't work properly. yeah, this is good shit.....The Feds could have given every man, woman and child in America 2 million dollars EACH to purchase lifetime coverage for less money they have squandered on the website.

Yeah, Obarrycare is an unqualified success.......


What dumbasses

Your math is way off, genius. You must be another lightly educated right winger.

 

[Katzndogz]

obamacare is more unpopular today than ever before. I notice that he also took a victory lap on the destruction of al quaeda too.

Neither is true.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Wasn't this 2014 midterm supposed to be when the entire GOP was going to ride to power on the wave of Obamacare "failure"?

But they dare not even bring it up because there are plenty of voters who actually like their Obamacare and don't want it repealed.

So that probably explains why Obama is touting the success of the ACA while the republicans try to change the subject.

Of course there are plenty of voters who like free stuff. Duh

If a republican candidate came out tomorrow and promised to push for a bill to give every American a new car for free, that dude would be elected even if he were a card carrying member of the Communist party.

 

[kidrocks]

"Its the Economy, Stupid..."

It's Ebola, stupid.

It's Texas stupid. Texas fucked up and failed miserably to protect it's citizens. Typical stupid, ignorant RED STATE!

 

[The Rabbi]

Handing out deck chairs on the Titanic.

Looks like the GOP is sunk via Obamacare

Obamacare will not rally voters for more liberal policy(makers) come November.

Come on.

You may be right.

When asked if they wanted ACA, the low information faux dupes said yes but when asked if they wanted ObamaCare, they said no.

Its a good start and is helping millions but people are still very ignorant about it. We still see people here who believe that ObamaCare is a product.

RWs are lying about ebola, mixing and stirring and Republicans have yet another wasteful repeal vote planned for after the election.

It is the revised "death panels" lie. That low information GOP FOX audience will tell every lie they can to stop progress or keep poor people from getting help. Then the "Christians" will go to church on Sunday and pray for the unfortunate poor they have been trying to screw over all week. That is NOT Christianity. That is Hypocrisy!

Except tje death panels are no lie. Ever similar scheme ends up rationing care and inevitably deciding who will live and who will die.

 

[The Rabbi]

"Its the Economy, Stupid..."

It's Ebola, stupid.

It's Texas stupid. Texas fucked up and failed miserably to protect it's citizens. Typical stupid, ignorant RED STATE!

Texas fucked up? How stupid are you, again?

 

[TemplarKormac]

"Its the Economy, Stupid..."

It's Ebola, stupid.

It's Texas stupid. Texas fucked up and failed miserably to protect it's citizens. Typical stupid, ignorant RED STATE!

Well, at least I was right about the stupid part...

Just how did they fuck up? Perhaps Obama would do well to ban travel from Africa and Mexico. D68 is already on the loose, no telling what happens if they catch Ebola.

 

[kidrocks]

"Its the Economy, Stupid..."

It's Ebola, stupid.

It's Texas stupid. Texas fucked up and failed miserably to protect it's citizens. Typical stupid, ignorant RED STATE!

Texas fucked up? How stupid are you, again?

Well the first ebola patient to develop symptoms in the U.S.was discovered in Texas and diagnosed in Texas. And last I heard, Texas is in the United States. Hmmm, makes one wonder why Texas? Seems those r-wing operatives will stoop to anything to pin on Obama.

 

[TemplarKormac]

"Its the Economy, Stupid..."

It's Ebola, stupid.

It's Texas stupid. Texas fucked up and failed miserably to protect it's citizens. Typical stupid, ignorant RED STATE!

Texas fucked up? How stupid are you, again?

Well the first ebola patient to develop symptoms in the U.S.was discovered in Texas and diagnosed in Texas. And last I heard, Texas is in the United States. Hmmm, makes one wonder why Texas? Seems those r-wing operatives will stoop to anything to pin on Obama.

Er, he traveled there from Liberia, AND LIED ON HIS TRAVEL PAPERS.

My gosh, no wonder liberals like you are so uneducated, you don't read.

Liberian authorities said Thursday they will prosecute Dallas Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan when he returns home for allegedly lying on his airport departure screening questionnaire about whether he had had contact with a person infected with the virus.

The latest Ebola outbreak has killed 3,338 in Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Senegal and Nigeria, the World Health Organization says, prompting several West African countries to closely monitor travelers in and out of the country.

On the form obtained by the Associated Press and confirmed by a Liberian government official, Duncan answered "no" to questions about whether he had cared for an Ebola patient or touched the body of someone who had died in an area affected by Ebola.

The Liberian health screening form filled out by Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan. who carried the disease to Dallas. Liberian authorities say they will prosecute him for allegedly lying about not having any contact with an infected person.(Photo: Kiichiro Sato, AP)

"He will be prosecuted" when he returns to Liberia, Binyah Kesselly, chairman of the board of directors of the Liberia Airport Authority, told reporters.

He said that people like Duncan and Patrick Sawyer, a Liberian-American with Ebola who traveled to Nigeria and infected people there, have brought a "stigma" upon Liberians living abroad.


Liberia says Dallas Ebola patient lied on exit documents

 

[AtticusF]

Handing out deck chairs on the Titanic.

Looks like the GOP is sunk via Obamacare

Obamacare will not rally voters for more liberal policy(makers) come November.

Come on.

You may be right.

When asked if they wanted ACA, the low information faux dupes said yes but when asked if they wanted ObamaCare, they said no.

Its a good start and is helping millions but people are still very ignorant about it. We still see people here who believe that ObamaCare is a product.

RWs are lying about ebola, mixing and stirring and Republicans have yet another wasteful repeal vote planned for after the election.

It is the revised "death panels" lie. That low information GOP FOX audience will tell every lie they can to stop progress or keep poor people from getting help. Then the "Christians" will go to church on Sunday and pray for the unfortunate poor they have been trying to screw over all week. That is NOT Christianity. That is Hypocrisy!

Except tje death panels are no lie. Ever similar scheme ends up rationing care and inevitably deciding who will live and who will die.

To ultimate rationing is when people can't get insurance, like we had before Obamacare.

 

[rdean]

has the Employee mandate kicked in yet?

How will Obama pay for the kids he's infected and killed with his Mexican virus?

Ebola ......... in the USA!!!

yeah, good going Macaca Joe

mexican virus??? OMG! You mean you can catch "mexican"?

Funny stuff. I would think Frank is sure that both the black race and the Mexican nationality are contagious. I think FOX said they were. Australians never lie!

Neither Fox owner would lie. The Australian nor the Arab.

 

[rdean]

And rightly so. Congratulations Mr. President on a job well done.





Obama Just Took A Big Victory Lap On Obamacare - Yahoo Finance

President Barack Obama touted the successes of the Affordable Care Act and improvements in the economy overall, during in a major speech on the economy Thursday at Northwestern University in Illinois.

He had to fight against a lot of myopic folks and right wing obstructionists. Took a lot of guts. The legislation could have been even better without the obstruction and ignorance.

Question for you that NOT one of you Obamacare supporters seem to understand...
You as Obama does obviously prefer a single payer.
So where will the Federal/state/local and local property taxes get the $100 billion a year in tax revenues that 1,300 insurance payers
pay when there is ONLY one payer?
Also who will be offering jobs to the 400,000 people that become unemployed with these 1,300 companies go out of existence?

That's your rationale for criticizing Obamacare? First, insurance companies currently administer Medicare and Medicaid, so they will still be in the mix, taking less risk but still providing administration. I doubt that $100 Billion in property taxes will be lost. Nor do I think the transformation will be as quick as you think. Whatever, everyone deserves decent coverage.

A) YOU are right about insurance companies administering Medicare. But there are less then 30 Medicare Administrative Contractors AND they lose money on their Medicare contracts.
B) Medicare Advantage plans are run by insurance companies also. BUT OBAMACARE is doing away with them...because they make a profit!
I kid you not! Obama hates any companies that make profits and he is adamant that Advantage plans are NOT good!
C) I didn't SAY $100 billion in property taxes... YOU didn't see the preceding "Federal/state/local taxes" and yes they will be gone because again
Obama want's "single payer" as he is so f..king dumb he has NO IDEA how insurance works!
D) Decent coverage??? How many people do you think were uninsured? 46 million the number Obama uses???
Where have you been on this forum where I've written hundreds of times proving there never were 46 million uninsured a number used to pass by
just 7 House votes Obamacare!
1) 10 million of the number Obama used ARE NOT CITIZENS... and Now after it was passed ...Obama admits it! He uses 36 million!
2) 14 million are people that qualified for medicaid BEFORE ACA... so due to Medicaid ineptness they are bogusly counted as part of the 46 million!
3) 18 million don't WANT health insurance. Can pay for it under employers' plan but as they are under 34 don't NEED....
That leaves 4 million of the so-called 46 million "uninsured"....
And that would have been easily solved by doing what stupidly ACA does i.e. taxing 10% on tanning salons as they cause cancer.. rather
tax the $270 billion lawyers make as lawyers cause $850 billion in wasted duplicate tests by doctors. That $27 billion in taxes would pay
a $5,000 premium per each of the 4 million truly uninsured that wanted insurance!

BUT YOU won't believe me!
So here are the sources and if you are an honest and intellectually curious follow the sources..read as I did the facts there never were 46 million !

Proof:10 million are not citizens Income Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States 2009 - Income Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
Proof:14 million due to Medicaid ineptness eligible before ACA: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Proof:18 million never wanted or need health insurance: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED 2009
42 million bogus number of the 46 million!
Proof: $850 billion wasted due to fear of lawsuits!
"Physicians estimate the cost of defensive medicine in US at $650 to $850 billion per year. This is 26 to 34% of all US healthcare costs.
Up to 92% of US physicians practice defensive medicine.
SOURCE: Health News Observer rsaquo Physicians Estimate The Cost Of Defensive Medicine In Us At 650 To 850 Bill Articles

Obamacare displaced 6 million policy holders....

Yea policy holders. If you can call them that. I previously posted policies that were incredible. For $60 a month, one gave you three doctor visits to his office per year. No hospital. There were all kinds. Republicans called those good policies. The rest of the world call them laughable. um.. Like Republicans. Laughable.

 

[Synthaholic]

Back in the Spring, 54% of GOP ads were about Obamacare.

In July that had shrunk to 27%.

Now, they barely talk about it.