Obama throws Bush under the bus......accuses him of torture

[Harry Dresden]

Serious question. Has any U.S. president ever allowed a previous president to be prosecuted? Don't they all protect each other from legal harm?

yes they certainly do....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Conservative are inherently fearful people, so it's no wonder the Bush Administration rushed to torture. It's the same fear that makes rightwingers radical gun nuts.

are you saying Liberals are different?......

 

[rightwinger]

We engaged in torture

It is a disgrace to this nation

We need to acknowledge it and do whatever possible to ensure it never happens again

 

[Political Junky]

The fairy tale you and this moron you call a POTUS is no were close to reality...

There are bad people in this world and as long as you keep your head in your ass someone with a brain will keep protecting your dumbass as well as his...

It is common knowledge that Bush not only engaged in torture but acknowledged it. This was no secret black ops operation by the CIA. Bush approved torture. The report is out today

Does is make you proud to be an American?

Obama approved kills of American Citizens. What is the difference? Bush squeezed Intel out of terrorists that helped Obama take credit for killing bin Laden.

Did Bush really "squeeze Intel" out of anyone? We know that some lied to stop the torture.

https://www.google.com/search?q=int...sugexp=chrome,mod=11&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[Harry Dresden]

About time our country stopped covering for the abuses of Bush/Cheney

It's way past the time for conservatives and others on the partisan right to stop ignoring the abuses of Bush and Cheney, and to stop acting as apologists for that abuse.

Jones do you know what the word PARTISAN means?........

 

[Antares]

"If hooking up one rag-head terrorist prisoner's testicles to a car battery to get the truth out of the lying little camel-shagger will save just one Canadian life, then I have only three things to say: "Red is positive, Black is negative, and make sure his nuts are wet'." !!!

I don't care who said it, I love it.

 

[rightwinger]

About time our country stopped covering for the abuses of Bush/Cheney

It's way past the time for conservatives and others on the partisan right to stop ignoring the abuses of Bush and Cheney, and to stop acting as apologists for that abuse.

Jones do you know what the word PARTISAN means?........

It is not partisanship

The report is out on what was done under the name of the United States. It flies in the face of our values as a nation

We need to acknowledge that we are not always the good guys and the end does not justify the means

 

[Harry Dresden]

We engaged in torture

It is a disgrace to this nation

We need to acknowledge it and do whatever possible to ensure it never happens again

yea im sure it will never happen again RW....it may be going on right now.....only this time....no one will know....like the old days ...the "torturers in the old days were not as careless......

 

[LeftofLeft]

It is common knowledge that Bush not only engaged in torture but acknowledged it. This was no secret black ops operation by the CIA. Bush approved torture. The report is out today

Does is make you proud to be an American?

Obama approved kills of American Citizens. What is the difference? Bush squeezed Intel out of terrorists that helped Obama take credit for killing bin Laden.

Did Bush really "squeeze Intel" out of anyone? We know that some lied to stop the torture.

You believe those non citizens attacking US soldiers who say they lied to avoid the torture and yet, in the same statement, do not empathize with the US citizens who were killed without due process?

 

[rightwinger]

We engaged in torture

It is a disgrace to this nation

We need to acknowledge it and do whatever possible to ensure it never happens again

yea im sure it will never happen again RW....it may be going on right now.....only this time....no one will know....like the old days ...the "torturers in the old days were not as careless......

It all comes down to accountability. Torture is not acceptable in this country under any circumstances

Do we need to sink down to the level of terrorists in order to beat them?

 

[LeftofLeft]

We engaged in torture

It is a disgrace to this nation

We need to acknowledge it and do whatever possible to ensure it never happens again

What do you suggest We do to avoid a US President killing a US Citizen without Due Process again?

 

[rightwinger]

We engaged in torture

It is a disgrace to this nation

We need to acknowledge it and do whatever possible to ensure it never happens again

What do you suggest We do to avoid a US President killing a US Citizen without Due Process again?

A US citizen actively engaged in taking up arms against this country is fair game

 

[JimH52]

Obama called a Spade a Spade.....so to speak

 

[Stephanie]

Conservative are inherently fearful people, so it's no wonder the Bush Administration rushed to torture. It's the same fear that makes rightwingers radical gun nuts.

are you saying Liberals are different?......

good grief, go through and look at their threads...everything is fearmongering or hatemongering



I laugh him saying Conservative are inherently fearful of people ...I am fearful of them going postal on ted Nugent

that person needs to frikken committed, how dare he sit in judgment of others

 

[Missouri_Mike]

We were much safer under Bush than we are today.

I don't really give a fuck about torture. If they have information we need get it any way possible. We are the only country in the world that promises a paradise existence after we catch you. The rest will do what they have to. Why hamstring ourselves with this bullshit we are the only ones willing to practice?

Torture away. Do we need the info? Yes. Get it. In any way possible. Nobody else gives a fuck if they capture one of ours so fuck them. We play by your rules, you torture we torture. You stop doing that and we will stop. Until it's equal on both sides I don't really care about the liberal bleeding heart bullshit.

You are a propaganda controlled idiot drone. Bush absolutely let 9/11 happen on his watch & let Bin Laden go free. Bush did the opposite of keeping US safe. Bush got about 9,000 of US killed & created more terrorist. Over 60,000 US soldiers & citizens dead or wounded & retards claim Bush kept us safe. Get out your wallet because this was & continues to be a huge expense.

The Bush admin had all the intelligence necessary to prevent 9/11 but REFUSED to stop the attack. Bush & the Neoconservative leaders at Pentagon wanted an offensive war instead of defending US citizens from a real attack. Neocons from the Pentagon told Bush that the C.I.A. had been fooled; Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract him from Saddam Hussein, who is a greater threat. Intelligence officials protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, as ridiculous. Bush receives another Presidential Daiy Brief entitled “The U.S. is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Usama Bin Laden”, Bush ignored it.

So allowing the Bush admin to torture everyone on the planet would not have stopped 9/11. He had the intel, but allowed it to happen anyway because he wanted a war with Saddam. Torture has not produced any good intel, negotiations have gotten us good cooperation.

You should read the letters to Obama from the people from the NSA. They said they gave Bush all the intel necessary to stop 9/11. After 9/11 Bush converted the NSA from spying on our enemies gathering precise information to protect US, to a huge unmanageable agency collecting & storing all available data on everyone. They claim the NSA can no-longer be proactive in preventing attacks like the Boston Bombing. They can only find archived info on them after they attack.

Holy shit, a truther. Did Clinton not have the same intel Bush had? Did Bush have better info? Why else would Clinton claim to have had OBL in his cross hairs but didn't pull the trigger in a speech 10 hours before 9-11? And laugh about it? If Bush had killed him you left wing fucking nut jobs would have accused him of a crime.

9-11 happened because of people like you. You would have gone asshole fucking crazy if Clinton wiped out Kandahar to kill OBL. You know why? Because you had no fucking idea who he was or what he was capable of until after 9-11. Yet you want to throw that same situation on Bush and bitch that he didn't kill OBL. Because you were going to be so much more supportive of blowing up town in Afghanistan to kill OBL with Bush in office? Bullshit.

You are the people that caused 9-11. You would never accepted a preimptive strike on OBL until after 9-11. Which is why 9-11 actually had to happen before you idiots would come on board for doing something about it. YOU created the problem. YOU are responsible for what happened on 9-11 because politically you never would have been for preventing it.

 

[Harry Dresden]

We engaged in torture

It is a disgrace to this nation

We need to acknowledge it and do whatever possible to ensure it never happens again

yea im sure it will never happen again RW....it may be going on right now.....only this time....no one will know....like the old days ...the "torturers in the old days were not as careless......

It all comes down to accountability. Torture is not acceptable in this country under any circumstances

Do we need to sink down to the level of terrorists in order to beat them?

it doesnt matter what you and me think.....in some drab dreary cell some where in the world someone might be being tortured for information by the CIA right now....what you going to do about it?.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Conservative are inherently fearful people, so it's no wonder the Bush Administration rushed to torture. It's the same fear that makes rightwingers radical gun nuts.

are you saying Liberals are different?......

good grief, go through and look at their threads...everything is fearmongering or hatemongering



I laugh him saying Conservative are inherently fearful of people ...I am fearful of them going postal on ted Nugent

that person needs to frikken committed, how dare he sit in judgment of others

Lakota is inherently fearful of guys like Ted Nugent....hey what you gonna do....some people are paranoid....

 

[The Rabbi]

Why is Obama not pursuing prosecution of those involved? What is he scared of?

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's way past the time for conservatives and others on the partisan right to stop ignoring the abuses of Bush and Cheney, and to stop acting as apologists for that abuse.

Jones do you know what the word PARTISAN means?........

It is not partisanship

The report is out on what was done under the name of the United States. It flies in the face of our values as a nation

We need to acknowledge that we are not always the good guys and the end does not justify the means

wrong guy RW.....how come you did not say that to Jones?.....he said it was.....hey just saying....

 

[KissMy]

We were much safer under Bush than we are today.

I don't really give a fuck about torture. If they have information we need get it any way possible. We are the only country in the world that promises a paradise existence after we catch you. The rest will do what they have to. Why hamstring ourselves with this bullshit we are the only ones willing to practice?

Torture away. Do we need the info? Yes. Get it. In any way possible. Nobody else gives a fuck if they capture one of ours so fuck them. We play by your rules, you torture we torture. You stop doing that and we will stop. Until it's equal on both sides I don't really care about the liberal bleeding heart bullshit.

You are a propaganda controlled idiot drone. Bush absolutely let 9/11 happen on his watch & let Bin Laden go free. Bush did the opposite of keeping US safe. Bush got about 9,000 of US killed & created more terrorist. Over 60,000 US soldiers & citizens dead or wounded & retards claim Bush kept us safe. Get out your wallet because this was & continues to be a huge expense.

The Bush admin had all the intelligence necessary to prevent 9/11 but REFUSED to stop the attack. Bush & the Neoconservative leaders at Pentagon wanted an offensive war instead of defending US citizens from a real attack. Neocons from the Pentagon told Bush that the C.I.A. had been fooled; Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract him from Saddam Hussein, who is a greater threat. Intelligence officials protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, as ridiculous. Bush receives another Presidential Daiy Brief entitled “The U.S. is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Usama Bin Laden”, Bush ignored it.

So allowing the Bush admin to torture everyone on the planet would not have stopped 9/11. He had the intel, but allowed it to happen anyway because he wanted a war with Saddam. Torture has not produced any good intel, negotiations have gotten us good cooperation.

You should read the letters to Obama from the people from the NSA. They said they gave Bush all the intel necessary to stop 9/11. After 9/11 Bush converted the NSA from spying on our enemies gathering precise information to protect US, to a huge unmanageable agency collecting & storing all available data on everyone. They claim the NSA can no-longer be proactive in preventing attacks like the Boston Bombing. They can only find archived info on them after they attack.

Holy shit, a truther. Did Clinton not have the same intel Bush had? Did Bush have better info? Why else would Clinton claim to have had OBL in his cross hairs but didn't pull the trigger in a speech 10 hours before 9-11? And laugh about it? If Bush had killed him you left wing fucking nut jobs would have accused him of a crime.

9-11 happened because of people like you. You would have gone asshole fucking crazy if Clinton wiped out Kandahar to kill OBL. You know why? Because you had no fucking idea who he was or what he was capable of until after 9-11. Yet you want to throw that same situation on Bush and bitch that he didn't kill OBL. Because you were going to be so much more supportive of blowing up town in Afghanistan to kill OBL with Bush in office? Bullshit.

You are the people that caused 9-11. You would never accepted a preimptive strike on OBL until after 9-11. Which is why 9-11 actually had to happen before you idiots would come on board for doing something about it. YOU created the problem. YOU are responsible for what happened on 9-11 because politically you never would have been for preventing it.

Wrong idiot - I always supported killing terrorist. Bush refused to kill Bin Laden before & after 9/11. It's also Clinton's fault, but Bush had far more intel on the terrorist than Clinton. You need to face facts & reality, 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. He refused to go after terrorist before & after 9/11. That is why Obama kill 10 times more terrorist in half the time as Bush. This is why Bin Laden was killed on Obama's watch & not Bush's.