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Israel has the right to defend herself from attack. That does not justify settlement expansion in violation of international law.
International law is a joke. It's virtually meaningless.
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Israel has the right to defend herself from attack. That does not justify settlement expansion in violation of international law.
Obama was right on the money. Our support for Israel does not mean we will issue a blank check for aggression.
It doesn't? It has for most of the past 60 years...
Why don't we use the most recent massacre carried out in Gaza as an example? During the 2008 cease-fire between Hamas and Israel, it was implied that Hamas would stop firing rockets and mortars into Israel if Israel lifted its blockade enough to allow humanitarian supplies into the area. As Israeli data shows (see p. 6 here,) Hamas more or less honored the agreement by essentially bringing rocket and mortar fire to a standstill. Israel did almost nothing to lift the blockade, and the people of Gaza continued to suffer. Rocket attacks increased sharply once more as a consequence of Israel's inaction, and Israel responded by slaughtering Gazans.EVERY SINGLE action by the Israelis has been in retaliation or defense from an Arab attack. EVERYONE. The aggressor is not Israel it is the Arab Countries and the stateless Arab terrorists. And you find no problem with that at all.
Every single action since, by the Israelis has been defensive, in response to wars or terrorist attacks.
I'm afraid most of the civilized world has evolved beyond "might makes right" notions of entitlement.The land belongs to them if they want it. They captured it in wars brought to them BY ARABS.
Obama was right on the money. Our support for Israel does not mean we will issue a blank check for aggression.
It doesn't? It has for most of the past 60 years...
EVERY SINGLE action by the Israelis has been in retaliation or defense from an Arab attack. EVERYONE. The aggressor is not Israel it is the Arab Countries and the stateless Arab terrorists. And you find no problem with that at all.
The entire situation came about because the Arabs refused to form their own Government and then 5 Arab States ordered Arabs out of the region so they could drive the Jews into the Sea. Without that action there would have been no refugees to begin with. Further exasperated by the absolute refusal of the Arab States to allow the supposed Refugees, almost all of which were originally their citizens to begin with, from settling in those countries. Instead they were herded BY ARABS into squalid camps and FORCED to live there ever since. Or until they rose in revolt and were either butchered BY ARABS or expelled from those Countries.
Every single action since, by the Israelis has been defensive, in response to wars or terrorist attacks.
The land belongs to them if they want it. They captured it in wars brought to them BY ARABS.
What I want to know is where is Jillian to remind us all that Obama will never dump the Jews. Never turn against Israel?
I'll bet anybody here a 1,000 bucks the settlement problem won't be solved while Obama is president, whether its 4 or 8 years.
Any takers?
Why don't we use the most recent massacre carried out in Gaza as an example? During the 2008 cease-fire between Hamas and Israel, it was implied that Hamas would stop firing rockets and mortars into Israel if Israel lifted its blockade enough to allow humanitarian supplies into the area. As Israeli data shows (see p. 6 here,) Hamas more or less honored the agreement by essentially bringing rocket and mortar fire to a standstill. Israel did almost nothing to lift the blockade, and the people of Gaza continued to suffer. Rocket attacks increased sharply once more as a consequence of Israel's inaction, and Israel responded by slaughtering Gazans.EVERY SINGLE action by the Israelis has been in retaliation or defense from an Arab attack. EVERYONE. The aggressor is not Israel it is the Arab Countries and the stateless Arab terrorists. And you find no problem with that at all.
Every single action since, by the Israelis has been defensive, in response to wars or terrorist attacks.
Let's compare the number of casualties caused by Hamas' rocket attacks with the effects of Israel's massacre:
- People killed by Hamas' rocket attacks, 2001 - Jan 2009: 28 (source)
- People killed by Israel during the Gaza conflict, Dec 27 2008 - Jan 18 2009: 1,417 (source)
That's 30 people killed over an 8-year period versus 1,500 killed in a few weeks. That isn't "self-defense" by any stretch of the word.
I'm afraid most of the civilized world has evolved beyond "might makes right" notions of entitlement.The land belongs to them if they want it. They captured it in wars brought to them BY ARABS.
Reread what he said. That is exactly what he did say. Supposedly we dont accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement. All of Israel is an Israeli settlement. Hence, why it's called Israel.
And quite frankly id doesnt matter if we accept their settlement or not, because it is they and not us who determines their settlements.
Reread what he said. That is exactly what he did say. Supposedly we dont accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement. All of Israel is an Israeli settlement. Hence, why it's called Israel.
And quite frankly id doesnt matter if we accept their settlement or not, because it is they and not us who determines their settlements.
That might be the single most moronic comment I've ever read and that's saying something.
Obama was right on the money. Our support for Israel does not mean we will issue a blank check for aggression.
It doesn't? It has for most of the past 60 years...
That doesn't really mean much. I'd like to see him actually do something to prevent the settlements from expanding.
Why don't we use the most recent massacre carried out in Gaza as an example? During the 2008 cease-fire between Hamas and Israel, it was implied that Hamas would stop firing rockets and mortars into Israel if Israel lifted its blockade enough to allow humanitarian supplies into the area. As Israeli data shows (see p. 6 here,) Hamas more or less honored the agreement by essentially bringing rocket and mortar fire to a standstill. Israel did almost nothing to lift the blockade, and the people of Gaza continued to suffer. Rocket attacks increased sharply once more as a consequence of Israel's inaction, and Israel responded by slaughtering Gazans.EVERY SINGLE action by the Israelis has been in retaliation or defense from an Arab attack. EVERYONE. The aggressor is not Israel it is the Arab Countries and the stateless Arab terrorists. And you find no problem with that at all.
Every single action since, by the Israelis has been defensive, in response to wars or terrorist attacks.
Let's compare the number of casualties caused by Hamas' rocket attacks with the effects of Israel's massacre:
- People killed by Hamas' rocket attacks, 2001 - Jan 2009: 28 (source)
- People killed by Israel during the Gaza conflict, Dec 27 2008 - Jan 18 2009: 1,417 (source)
That's 30 people killed over an 8-year period versus 1,500 killed in a few weeks. That isn't "self-defense" by any stretch of the word.
I'm afraid most of the civilized world has evolved beyond "might makes right" notions of entitlement.The land belongs to them if they want it. They captured it in wars brought to them BY ARABS.
That doesn't really mean much. I'd like to see him actually do something to prevent the settlements from expanding.
I hope the settlements EXPAND. Obama has no RIGHT to tell them otherwise. I hope Netanyahu tells Obama to go fuck himself. Israel has my 100% support.
The So-Called Palestinians have a problem, and it's name is JORDAN in which they were rejected.
Screw 'em. They're nothing but trouble makers.
Why don't we use the most recent massacre carried out in Gaza as an example? During the 2008 cease-fire between Hamas and Israel, it was implied that Hamas would stop firing rockets and mortars into Israel if Israel lifted its blockade enough to allow humanitarian supplies into the area. As Israeli data shows (see p. 6 here,) Hamas more or less honored the agreement by essentially bringing rocket and mortar fire to a standstill. Israel did almost nothing to lift the blockade, and the people of Gaza continued to suffer. Rocket attacks increased sharply once more as a consequence of Israel's inaction, and Israel responded by slaughtering Gazans.EVERY SINGLE action by the Israelis has been in retaliation or defense from an Arab attack. EVERYONE. The aggressor is not Israel it is the Arab Countries and the stateless Arab terrorists. And you find no problem with that at all.
Every single action since, by the Israelis has been defensive, in response to wars or terrorist attacks.
Let's compare the number of casualties caused by Hamas' rocket attacks with the effects of Israel's massacre:
- People killed by Hamas' rocket attacks, 2001 - Jan 2009: 28 (source)
- People killed by Israel during the Gaza conflict, Dec 27 2008 - Jan 18 2009: 1,417 (source)
That's 30 people killed over an 8-year period versus 1,500 killed in a few weeks. That isn't "self-defense" by any stretch of the word.
I'm afraid most of the civilized world has evolved beyond "might makes right" notions of entitlement.The land belongs to them if they want it. They captured it in wars brought to them BY ARABS.
I'll bet anybody here a 1,000 bucks the settlement problem won't be solved while Obama is president, whether its 4 or 8 years.
Any takers?
I support Israels right to defend itself.
If Nuevo Laredo was launching rockets at us, what American WOULDN'T advocate overthrow and occupation?
Why don't we use the most recent massacre carried out in Gaza as an example? During the 2008 cease-fire between Hamas and Israel, it was implied that Hamas would stop firing rockets and mortars into Israel if Israel lifted its blockade enough to allow humanitarian supplies into the area. As Israeli data shows (see p. 6 here,) Hamas more or less honored the agreement by essentially bringing rocket and mortar fire to a standstill. Israel did almost nothing to lift the blockade, and the people of Gaza continued to suffer. Rocket attacks increased sharply once more as a consequence of Israel's inaction, and Israel responded by slaughtering Gazans.EVERY SINGLE action by the Israelis has been in retaliation or defense from an Arab attack. EVERYONE. The aggressor is not Israel it is the Arab Countries and the stateless Arab terrorists. And you find no problem with that at all.
Every single action since, by the Israelis has been defensive, in response to wars or terrorist attacks.
Let's compare the number of casualties caused by Hamas' rocket attacks with the effects of Israel's massacre:
- People killed by Hamas' rocket attacks, 2001 - Jan 2009: 28 (source)
- People killed by Israel during the Gaza conflict, Dec 27 2008 - Jan 18 2009: 1,417 (source)
That's 30 people killed over an 8-year period versus 1,500 killed in a few weeks. That isn't "self-defense" by any stretch of the word.
I'm afraid most of the civilized world has evolved beyond "might makes right" notions of entitlement.The land belongs to them if they want it. They captured it in wars brought to them BY ARABS.
So against Kalam aka Racist Muslim, what would be an acceptable response? Would you be cool with Israel allowing Its border cities to fire 1000s of daily missiles at random targets into Gaza? Of course not because you are a hypocritical Muslim antisemite!+
Why don't we use the most recent massacre carried out in Gaza as an example? During the 2008 cease-fire between Hamas and Israel, it was implied that Hamas would stop firing rockets and mortars into Israel if Israel lifted its blockade enough to allow humanitarian supplies into the area. As Israeli data shows (see p. 6 here,) Hamas more or less honored the agreement by essentially bringing rocket and mortar fire to a standstill. Israel did almost nothing to lift the blockade, and the people of Gaza continued to suffer. Rocket attacks increased sharply once more as a consequence of Israel's inaction, and Israel responded by slaughtering Gazans.EVERY SINGLE action by the Israelis has been in retaliation or defense from an Arab attack. EVERYONE. The aggressor is not Israel it is the Arab Countries and the stateless Arab terrorists. And you find no problem with that at all.
Every single action since, by the Israelis has been defensive, in response to wars or terrorist attacks.
Let's compare the number of casualties caused by Hamas' rocket attacks with the effects of Israel's massacre:
- People killed by Hamas' rocket attacks, 2001 - Jan 2009: 28 (source)
- People killed by Israel during the Gaza conflict, Dec 27 2008 - Jan 18 2009: 1,417 (source)
That's 30 people killed over an 8-year period versus 1,500 killed in a few weeks. That isn't "self-defense" by any stretch of the word.
I'm afraid most of the civilized world has evolved beyond "might makes right" notions of entitlement.The land belongs to them if they want it. They captured it in wars brought to them BY ARABS.
So against Kalam aka Racist Muslim, what would be an acceptable response? Would you be cool with Israel allowing Its border cities to fire 1000s of daily missiles at random targets into Gaza? Of course not because you are a hypocritical Muslim antisemite!+